>> you're welcome. jackie: that will do it for us on "fox business tonight". "the evening edit" will start right now. ♪. ♪ >> right now the crisis on the border is worsening. back in washington, president biden and vice president harris meet with top immigration and health officials. joining us tonight, former top dhs official ken cuccinelli, texas congressman brian babin. north dakota senator kevin cramer. plus, kt mcfarland, byron josh and vince come niece. this and other top stories of the day, including how much is that 3 trillion-dollar infrastructure package going to cost you in higher taxes? this as 250 top business leaders warned steeper taxes in new york, all the all but devastate new york city, still

reeling from lockdowns from businesses to the brink of big tech under pressure. the head of facebook, twitter, google, fairing capitol hill showdown over accusations they spread bad information. plus why many asian countries were way out in front of stopping the spread of covid-19 but are falling behind much of the west for heard immunity. i'm edward lawrence in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. edward: president biden blaming the previous administration. this after she laugh after visiting the border on monday. >> i asked her the vp today, she is most qualified to do it, to lead our efforts with mexico. they don't have to wonder about

is that where the president is? she speaks, she speaks for me. doesn't have to check with me. she knows what she is doing. edward: today white house officials along with lawmakers visiting the border. the office of refugee resettlement saying 1400 migrant kids heading to san diego's convention center. hhs is looking at up to three military bases in texas alone to house immigrant children and possibly more bases in colorado. part of the problem, smugglers. our very own hillary vaughn is at at border town known as smuggler's paradise. hillary found interesting things, right? reporter: edward, just down this sandy path right here leads right to the rio grande river which separates the united states and mexico and this is a spot we saw last night hundreds of migrants arriving by boat, crossing from mexico into the u.s., to get across the river. every migrant has to pay off the cartel.

when they do, they get a wristband that looks like this. these are just some that we picked up off of the ground after the migrants arrived here late last night but this goes to show how the surge in illegal border crossings is at the same time fueling big business for the cartel in mexico. smuggling humans across the border can, migrants will pay anywhere from 3,000 to $25,000 in smuggling fees. revenue from human smuggling alone from countries brought the cartel $2.3 billion in revenue in 2017 but the national border patrol council says there is a direct link between the cartel's profit and how secure the u.s. border is at the time. >> at the top of this you tie us up meantime whether dealing with people out there in the field, putting us inside for babysitting duties. it makes it easier for them.

more and more is flowing. reporter: the flow of migrants crossing illegally is completely overwhelming border patrol resources. i'm told they need more manpower but are not getting it. edward, one interesting thing we learned from a deputy sheriff here, these wristbands, migrants get multiple passes with with them. if a migrant is caught, returned back to mexico, they keep the wristband on, the cartel gives them three tries to get back to the united states. edward: thank you, hillary vaughn. excellent reporting. it turns into a big business. seems very organized. mexico's president now blaming the president biden for the surge saying it is his fault. expectations were created that the government of president biden would be a better treatment of immigrants and this has caused central american migrants and us from our country wanting to cross the border, thinking it is easier to do so. joining me is acting dhs or former acting dhs secretary

ken cuccinelli. nowhere did i hear president biden say what specifically he would do to address the border. ken, is this an administration basically stuck its head in the sand hoping the problem will just go away? >> oh, no question. this is an ostrich strategy entirely but look, it is also intentional. as much as they want to blame it on president trump, president of mexico really ripped the clothes off that emperor. we can all see, he is idealogically aligned with biden. you wouldn't expect him to help trump out. he said very clearly where the fault lies with this but it is not unintentional. they invited all these people to come across the border on purpose at the same time they're putting amnesty bills through congress. at the same time they want to pass a voting bill that will register many people regardless whether they're citizens or not, on the rolls and punish state

officials for checking. so this is all connected. jackie: you feel like this is a political endgame then in order to get some democratic initiatives through, is that? >> long term. not short term. it is connected to some other legislation going on. this is a long-term play for votes they believe and they are completely overwhelmed. this was predicted and predictable. we told them it would happen during the transition over and over and over. so they knew what was coming. they knew this is not a surprise, as shocking as it looks, and for all of their mouthing of how committed to transparency they are, they are about as complete in terms of covering all this up as they can be. they're not letting any of all into these facilities. i noticed "the washington post" report today about them letting one camera into an hhs facility, not a dhs facility.

not customs border protection. which are really the facilities you want to see because of just how record-breakingly overwhelm they are by these biden policies. edward: that was one of the newer facilities that they're letting folks into, the newer ones built. feasibly -- >> trying to make it look as good as they possibly can. edward: there is fairly easy fix, in 2018, and 2019 we didn't see hundreds of thousands of people trying to cross illegally a month? >> no, we most certainly didn't. in one month we did, in may of 2019. and, i wouldn't say it is simple to solve the problem but all the solutions were in place. they ripped them all out quite intentionally. they literally ripped up and shredded a dozen international agreements we had with mexico and the central american countries that together, those agreements working together and,

five countries really, working together, put a major dent in illegal immigration. in 2020 there were no caravans. zero. came to the u.s. border. zero. and now it is continuous because of the biden reception they're getting. heck, they're showing up in biden t-shirts. they're carrying biden flags. it is very obvious why this is happening and the administration undermines their own credibility on every issue by staring straight into the camera saying there isn't a crisis and we didn't cause this and this is just a normal surge, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera and you all report it very accurately on one of the really unfortunate downsize. this is all fueling the drug cartels, the most evil, vicious people in the western hemisphere that undermine entire governments are being funded by the biden effect.

what you didn't -- if i can make one more point. you talked about the people coming across the border they're directing. cpb gets occupied. it just isn't they send other people elsewhere it is with drugs. they expand their drug processing across the border as well. edward: the focus is in one area and doing something else over here. >> right, exactly. edward: listen to kamala harris' approach on the border, listen to this. >> while we are clear people should not come to the border now we also understand that we will enforce the law. edward: now enforce the law, doesn't seem like that was what trump was trying to do? >> what law? they define, listen to her secretary of dhs he defines enforcing immigration law as inhumane. they use that word inhumane to mean enforcing immigration law.

and, you tell me, when you get a look inside of these facilities with children sprawling all over each other and crying and all the rest, you tell me which approach is more inhumane? that is why they won't let you see inside of those facilities. democrat, henry cuellar, talked to many migrants famously, he asked them, did you hear from the biden people that they wanted you to come? >> oh, yes, that is what we heard. did any of you hear from them they don't want you to come now? silence. no one. that, that is from a democrat. so to hear kamala harris make those sorts of comments we're telling them not to come, that is phony baloney, purely packaged for the american media market. that is all it is for. edward: ken cuccinelli, i really appreciate your time. this is a story we'll be following. coming up, north dakota senator kevin cramer, we'll ask him if we can afford another

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edward: treasury secretary janet yellen already admitted likely there will be tax hikes to pay for president biden's multitrillion dollar stimulus package. republicans opposed to spend outside of actual infrastructure. democrats are gearing up foremassive spending bill without gop support like covid relief. what will be in the package and how much it will cost taxpayers. blake burman is at the white house. reporter: there is not an official plan from the white house. they say they will start to hear from the president on this issue a week from today from pittsburgh, pennsylvania where he will outline the build back better agenda or part of it. the white house is tied lipped other than saying the president will meet with his advisors

throughout this week. i asked white house press secretary jen psaki what we could potentially expect to hear from the president on this? she said the president's plan will include a lot of items he talked about while on the campaign trail. >> his build back better agenda includes a number of components that he talked about on the campaign trail and infrastructure is part of it. making the tax code fair and one that rewards work and not wealth as part of it. doing better by our caregivers is part of that. increasing access to health care is part of it. reporter: the white house has not said if the aforementioned and more will amount to a potential 3 trillion-dollar price tag. here was the press secretary i asked her if 3 trillion should be viewed as a cap? >> he is having a conversation about the scale and the scope of what proposals look like. there is lots of ways to frame it, to shape it, to size it. so i don't have anymore to predict for you.

reporter: so we will hear from president biden on this issue a week from today in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. i is possible we potentially could hear some piece of it, parts of it, tomorrow afternoon as the president will host his first press conference here at the white house. edward: great reporting. not all infrastructure. thank you, blake burman at the white house. so let's bring in north dakota senator kevin cramer. he is on the senate banking and budget committees. now, senator, democrats can basically use reconciliation process once per fiscal year. they did it already for the american rescue package. is this one going to be a infrastructure package? >> edward, i'm not sure what exactly it is going to be but they certainly seem to be throwing a lot of things at it to try to make it fit into the rules of budget reconciliation. so very well could be. i get a little concerned when you're talking about transforming the tax code, talking about infrastructure bill, talking about climate change, all in the same package.

awful lot of that stuff i think belongs in its own lane, not in one big clump. so you know, i think mitch mcconnell referred to it as a trojan horse and i think he has reason to be concerned. edward: there are some concerns there now. listen to something, this is treasury secretary janet yellen yesterday from her testimony talking about that potential 3 trillion-dollar package. she chose her words carefully. listen to this. >> we intend to put forward a proposal to invest in sustainable infrastructure and to create new green jobs in the process. edward: secretary yellen calling it sustainable infrastructure creating green jobs. so will the bridges being built, roads are fixed or looking more stuff as you mentioned of climate change? >> sounds to me like this is more stuff. there is no question one of the probably most bipartisan issues in congress is transportation infrastructure. that includes of course highways and bridges as you talked about. includes waterways.

it includes ports. it can include things like broadband, rail, transmission lines, pipelines. the nice thing about a lot of that stuff, it doesn't have to be funded by the federal taxpayer. in fact if we get better regulation, less regulation, more consistent regulation, a lot of it would be built by the private sector and it would have as its primary purpose the creation of jobs and the growth of our economy. at the same time i think a highway transportation bill infrastructure bill will, it is in the making. there is not any question we'll get a lot of bipartisan support, when you take $210 billion in the highway trust fund, talk about one trillion dollars highway bill, you better find some revenues someplace and i don't think you have to raise taxes to do it. i think you can find the revenue by first of all broadening the tax code, particularly as it relates to the highway trust fund. right now solely dependent on

gas and fuel taxes. electric vehicles don't use goods. they don't pay for roads or hybrids or fuel official vehicles. you don't see miles on the roads. opening up federal resources for mining, things like oil, coal, gas, minerals, that are in high demand. that is good for the american economy. it is good for national security but what we shouldn't be doing is looking at raising taxes on job creators while trying to grow an economy that needs a boost. edward: interesting you say that. senator joe manchin said the corporate tax rate should go to 25%. there should be adjustments to the 2017 tax cuts made by the trump administration. what kind of tax code changes do you anticipate that will be in there? >> first of all, if senator manchin is it talking about 25%, he is talking about a tax increase on job creators. the reason, main reason we had the incredible growth in our economy we have had up until the pandemic is because we lowered

the corporate tax rate to 21%. and of course we made it easier to repatriate funds from american companies that were earning, earning profits overseas. that grew our economy. if makes no sense now at a time when the economy is coming back, the foundation is built pretty strongly to now raise taxes on the very same, those very same people. it creates an incentive for people to move their, their companies out of the country, rather than bring more of them in. that is one that concerns me right away. they're talking about estate taxes. they're talking about capital gains taxes. all of these things are aimed at job creators and frankly at the middle class. possible income tax increases on people making as little as $200,000. $200,000 is more than the that i make or a lot of people make but not exactly the wealthy. so, we have got the makings of a growing economy. what we need to do is open the economy and let the won't on

thes and businesses in this country and businesses work. if we need more like highway building which we do, we should no longer neglect our transportation infrastructure. reduce regulations, broaden the tax code, the taxes. let's build some highways and bridges. edward: senator, quickly, do you have a number then in mind as to how big this infrastructure package should be? >> it's a great question, edward, and i don't know necessarily. we've been borrowing trillions of dollars for things a lot less noble than a high bay package or a infrastructure package t could be a trillion dollars but i don't think all of that trillion has to come from the taxpayers. i think we can work with the private sector through ppp programs, you know, and public/private partnerships as well as unshackle the private sector buildout fiber-optics and rail and transmission lines and pipelines and we can do a lot of good for our economy, create a lot of jobs without raising

people's taxes to do it. edward: thank you very much, senator kevin cramer from the great state of north dakota. i appreciate it. thank you for your time. just ahead on the earning edit, former president, trump national security advisor kt mcfarland why many asian countries were out in front on stepping the spread of covid and falling behind the west in terms of herd immunity. psst! psst! allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! you're good. hi, i'm debra. i'm from colorado. i've been married to my high school sweetheart

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edward: new data from the centers of disease control, that 25% of americans received a at least one dose of a covid-19 vaccine. the united kingdom received 41%. that drops to 3% in moles asian countries. could countries like south korea and china feel less pressure to vaccinate. that they have been able to contain the virus through border controls, contact tracing, and now officials fear herd immunity might be at stake. we have former trump advisor kt mcfarland, and author of the trump, washington and we the people. in this country people are playing "the hunger games" to get vaccination. look at china, if the country doesn't vaccinate their own population, will that stop the coronavirus from continuing in the globe? >> no. you know, edward, nothing that

shows the difference between the united states and china more starkly how we dealt with the coronavirus. the chinese knew they had a problem with the virus from the very beginning. what was their solution? they locked their country down. they didn't let people travel in and out of wuhan to other parts of china. anybody who had coronavirus, have a total surveillance state in china, they watched every move they make. they locked them down. their families down, their apartment buildings down. that is how they stopped the spread. look at the rest of the world particularly the u.s. and britain. the chinese they didn't lock down the rest of the world to china. they encouraged in fact americans to go back and forth to wuhan even though they knew they had a crisis. when the streets, when trump tried to shut down the border between china and united states, china accused him of racism. what was the american solution to all of this? we'll make a vaccine. so when you take, bottom line here is that the chinese caused

the crisis, caused the virus. what did america do? america cured it. we found a vaccine. and you know, donald trump doesn't get enough credit for this, edward but because of "operation warp speed" he encouraged american pharmaceutical companies to at no cost to themselves, no loss, that they would develop the vaccine. nobody thought we would be this far along in vaccinations. the same thing happened in britain. so i look at the two countries, the united states, china, the west, asia, and say, what's missing here? in the west we have a problem, we solve it. what do the chinese do? they lock everybody down and go to total surveillance state. edward: from a national security perspective then, your expertise, when china says it has a handle on the spread of the virus do we actually believe they have a handle on the spread of the virus? mutations, if the virus doesn't actually go away, could be a national security risk, right? >> oh, yeah. if china doesn't have a solution to this, they're not vaccinating

their people f anything, they will send a faulty vaccine, potentially a faulty vaccine they developed to the third world. they're not getting herd immunity. their solution, almost if you got any access or any exposure to it, you're really shuffled off to another part of society. you're not allowed to go out of your apartment. you're not allowed to mix with the rest of society. in the west we have a very different tattooed. we'll find a cure, we'll find a cure quickly and then we'll have herd immunity. even if there are successive waves of, it mutates and, we in the united states and britain, we're way ahead of the game, china, we'll have to start over again every time. edward: quickly china suspended vaccinations using pfizer and biotech vaccine because batches had defective lids. pfizer said there is no reason to believe the batches are unsafe. only vaccine available in hong kong is china's made by

government backed company. sounds a little fishy there, doesn't it? >> doesn't it sound a little strange, hong kong, part of china? china taken over hong kong. the only vaccine available is the chinese vaccine, even though hong kong has close ties to great britain, used to be part of great britain? i just think the whole thing smacks of politics because the chinese have gone around the world and said, look, america is not able to deal with the 21st century. do you want to deal with the virus, all the problems of the 21st century, ours is the right model. you look at this. i think they were falsifying figures to be polite about it. falsifying figures all the way along. >> very interesting, kt mcfarland, this is interesting stuff. we'll stay on this. thank you for joining us, bringing that expertise on the national security front. appreciate it. >> thanks, edward. edward: up next fox news contributor byron york on the tax increases in one state that could be a signal to everyone

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drawn el prude's death. he died of as asphyxiation the officers were not charged. mass owe does out of new york and california began long before covid hit with hundreds of more thousands fleeing manhattan during a pandemic. a group of big apple businesses, are asking those, warning, that the 7 billion-dollar proposed tax hike will trigger more wealthy businesses to leave. of the memo to democratic leaders, driving out the tax base will cause disaster in your cities. we have "washington examiner" chief political correspondent byron york. very interesting going forward, you have 250 businesses signing a letter to the governor and state lawmakers that they plan to impose the largest tax hikes in history is a bad idea. are they going to listen? >> probably not.

tens of thousands of people fled new york last year during the whole coronavirus pandemic. the manhattan institute did a study last year of new york city residents who make over $100,000 a year. now those residents account for 80% of income tax revenue for new york city and 44%, nearly half, said they were seriously considering leaving and when they do leave, they go to someplace where it is cheaper. what has happened is, obviously living in new york involves some inconveniences. it is expensive, it is crowded, it can be difficult to get around but it offers a lot of other benefits. extraordinary social, cultural world you can't find elsewhere in the united states. the problem is when you have something like the pandemic it begins to seem maybe not worth it. you've seen a lot of people leave. and when they do leave the ones who have more money often go to

places like texas and florida which do not have state income tax. edward: you're leaving those that least can afford it shouldering the burden. here is what is scratching my head though. in the fiscal year-ending march 31st, the new york comptroller says there will be a one billion dollar surplus and projections for 776 surplus for next fiscal year. so why are they talking about raising taxes? >> you raised a great question. we talked a lot over the last year about the financial burden the pandemic placed on a lot of americans. they have lost their jobs. they have lost a lot of work. it is very, very difficult for some of them. we also talked about those burdens on states and localities but we found out in recent weeks, "new york times" did a big story about this, a lot of states have not suffered at all in terms of state revenue. some went up, half of the states in the whole country went up. the ones who lost revenue didn't

really lose all that much. so i am with you on that. i don't really understand why if you have the sense of rising revenues, plus, by the way, congress just passed an extraordinary aid package, $1.9 trillion, a good deal of which will go to new york. edward: 350 billion goes to new york. in fact the states with higher unemployment, the greater lockdown get more money out of that package. it is interesting, other states, will they look at this hey, we would love to have 7 more billion dollars to play with to do projects. you think other states would look at this, we could raise our taxes too under the guise of covid? >> a number of states are looking to lower taxes to attract more people. west virginia is actually considering getting rid of state income tax a la florida and texas. if you have a a combination of

lower income tax and a situation where you leave your house, you get in the car, drive to a restaurant. you park in front, go inside and eat, come back out, it is very sort of convenient lifestyle some states have to offer. and so, i think a number of them are trying to make themselves more, not less attractive to possible people leaving new york. edward: that is the market in action here statewise. byron york, appreciate it. thank you for your time on this. >> thank you. edward: stay right here. coming up big tech facing lawmakers again. ceos of twitter, alphabet, google's parent company, facebook will be grilled. we have what the ceo's are actually going to tell lawmakers coming up next trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ it's a new dawn... ♪

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about their rolls allegedly spreading misinformation on the coronavirus and lead-up to the deadly riot in the capitol in january. facebook mark zuckerberg, twitter jack dorsey and google's sundar pichai will appear remotely in front of two house and commerce energy subcommittees. the ceo's argue their platforms are mirror of society. they're not creating fracture we're all seeing. facebook mark zuckerberg will say this in his opening statement. our society is deeply divided. we see that in our services too. they will get a lot of questions from democrats how social media led to go lies around covid vaccinations, presidential elections and how that spread like wildfire. there is a lot to talk about "the daily caller" editorial director vince collagnese. vince, republicans will hit how platforms amplify one side of the argument, censor things that turn out to be true. so how many times have we been here, and will anything ever

change? >> i think unfortunately it is only going to get more sensoruos, difficult to create free thought on social media platforms. made more difficult the democrats control the house, senate, white house and house of representatives. they want social media companies to censor their users that is the pressure they have been unsince donald trump was elected in 2016. democrats blamed those social media companies for trump's victory in part. as a result place ad tremendous amount of pressure. now it culminated in hearings we're seeing play out tomorrow where democrats will call for more censorship of american citizens, republicans will call for more open forums to communicate ideas. edward: vince, what we haven't heard, really died down, section 230, haven't heard any comment or talk how section 230 needs to be changed. >> seems that there is some sort of rumbling on section 230 in the sense that both sides would

like to see these social media companies punished but again for very different reasons. democrats want more censorship. it is kind of interesting because, you know, i'm thinking of, like you mentioned covid and how these social media companies need to be pressured to handle misinformation about covid, it is unbelievable what they have been doing to legitimate conversations about coronavirus. i will give you a really clear example. "wall street journal" published an op-ed by dr. marty makary of johns hopkins university suggesting we could have some degree of heard immunity by april. that is scientific opinion. facebook flagged that as problematic information. these are again scientific debates but our social media companies under pressure browbeaten by democrats in power have been going out of their way to censor good, thorough, honest conversations. edward: what you're talking about is the companies wield enormous power. so then regulation of that

censorship, and determine what is fact, what is opinion and what is a flat-out lie, how do you regulate those people who have decided that they're going to be regulators of that information? >> yeah. looks like in some instances you have democrats who would like to try to break up some of these companies. at the very least, their goal is to try to create a stranglehold on what kind of information is allowed to be communicated on these platforms. so with the threat of regulation constantly hanging over facebook, twitter, google, what are they going to do? they will obey democrats because they're scared of the regulatory burden that could come hit them, hurt their profits. this is a hostage crisis right now where the tech companies although they agree politically, they see their profits at stake here. as a result, will obey to the extent they can the demands of these democrats. edward: what is the over under on twitter ceo saying things have been misled, they're looking to do a better job of transparency. we'll hear that over and over

again, transparency, aren't we? >> we will hear that. twitter is of course guilty too. i remember especially on issue of covid last year dr. scott atlas who worked for the trump administration received a ban on twitter because some of his opinions disagreed with government scientists. if you're sitting at home thinking wait a second, wasn't he working for the government. actually quite literally a government scientist. yes you're right. he worked for donald trump. the rules were different. edward: big tech executives going into government in the biden administration in various positions there. >> that's right. edward: thank you, vince. i really appreciate your help. any insight on this this is story you're following. we'll have more on hearings from tomorrow. thank you very much. >> thanks. edward: still ahead, texas congressman brian babin with a closer view from the ground on the u.s.-mexico border. >> i to do believe it's a slap in the face. i made a plea back in february

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edward: we'll get to our last guest with me. now is border security caucus co-chair, texas representative brian babin. u.s. is on pace to see 17,000 unaccompanied minors arrive alone in texas. the military is asked to house some of those in the surge. you have this focus on kids that is going on, mixed in with the surge, you have the criminal element. so more examples of criminal illegals crossing the border. the border patrol arrested two illegal aliens with violent criminal history. honduran national, prior arrest charged with rape and another honduran national charged with second degree sexual assault of a child. how concerning is this, that they're slipping through or in? >> great to be with you, edward, extremely concerning for me. it should be as well for president biden and his administration. our mandate, our duties as

elected officials is to keep the national security and to make americans safe. keep us free from crime and disease. and the chaos and bedlam that is happening on the border which the administration denies is even a crisis, it is just absurd. and quite frankly they, the biden administration has failed america. they have utterly failed. it is going over a cliff here real soon, and i think it is time for the great state of texas to step up and fill the gap and start enforcing these laws on our border. i'm not an attorney. i don't know what all they can do but if the biden administration is simply not obeying the law, not enforcing the law, then texas needs to step up and protect its own citizens. edward: congressman, you mentioned the safety and security. the cpb rescued actually an injured hiker in the arizona mountains this is the kind of

work agents could be doing more of. instead of attention being focused on the surge. look at some of the video agents sent to us, on the side of the screen. the winds were gusting 40 miles per hour. the mountains made it impossible for a landing zone for arizona state rescue helicopter. customs agents came out of the tucson, arizona office. they hovered over with a basket and hoisted the hiker with a broken leg up. this is security as opposed to babysitting on the border with folks coming across illegally? >> edward, the biden administration essentially empowered cartels. the cartels know exactly what they're doing. the cartels train migrants and they will have, they will bum rush the border in certain areas. there are scouts and spies on hills. they know where things are. they will bum rush the border, create a diversion which creates a gap farther up the line on the border. they come across with the drugs

and human trafficking. they know exactly what they're doing. they're making 14 million per day. that is an estimation which i think is very, very accurate. the biden administration simply denies reality. in fact, in washington, d.c., we have miles of steel wall and national guard troops standing around, thousands of them, and some of them are sleeping on the concrete and on the floor for no credible threat. we haven't been able to find anything there. yet the biden administration has spent $86 million on hotel rooms to house illegal aliens. they have released 23,000 plus aliens into the country, many of them covid positive. we know that. there are 50, up to 15,000 unaccompanied juveniles and children. many are 16, 17 years old. we've got them housed all over. edward: congressman.

i'm running up against a break here. you know, just quickly in the last 30 seconds i wanted to ask you, you know is the money that they're making off these illegal immigrants coming across emboldening the >> there's no question about it. let me say one quick thing because i know we are running out but there is a quote via an anonymous order patrol agent in texas and he says that anpad 3a which is a holding facility they used to call cages and now they are holding facilities it's designed to hold 80 people and today it has 694 unaccompanied children in the facility which is 867%. >> we are going to have to leave it there. those numbers are astounding. i'm edward lorenz, thank you congressman and for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on "fox business." have a good evening.

♪♪ >> "kudlow" welcome back to "kudlow." the comments from fed chair jay powell and economic growth in the labor market may have helped and that bullishness seems to have permeated the white house as well as president joe biden reportedly optimistic if he can ram his left-wing agenda through congress. to do so he's on board as with eliminating the senate filibuster as well as pitching any notion of going back on his word.