now. ♪. ♪. liz: we are in breaking news mode. you're watching a special two-hour edition of "the evening edit." just a short time ago the jury in the georgia. floyd case found derek chauvin guilty of murder. this ended a year that saw america face a rec coning we have never seen before, who we are as a country what we stand for. tonight we'll give you 360-degree full spectrum reporting. we will report to you what the rest of the media has not. we'll show you angles no one else is covering, what is going so right with this country what went so wrong over the past year. first, to jackie deangelis with more on the verdict. reporter: good evening, liz.

everybody was on edge waiting for this verdict to be released. the judge read the verdict very calmly, smoothly, succinctly. derek chauvin was found guilty on all counts, second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second degree manslaughter as well. the harshest was second-degree murder. it holds a maximum sentence of 40 years in prison. judge peter cahill, you can listen to him yourself. listen. >> we the jury in the above entitled matter as to count one, unintentional second-degree murder committing a felony find the david guilty. this verdict agreed to this 20th day of april, 2021 at 1:44 p.m. signed juror foreperson, juror numb 19. same caption, verdict count ii, we the jury in the above entitled matter as count two, third-degree murder, find the

defendant guilty. this verdict agreed to this 20th day of april, 2021 at 1 len 45 p.m. signed by jury foreperson juror number 19. same cam shun, verdict count three, we the jury in the above entitled matter as to count three, second degree manslaughter, culpable negligent, creating unreasonable risk find the defendant guilty. reporter: the jury came to its conclusion, approximately 1 1/2 days after closing arguments. those closing arguments took place monday afternoon. this was considered a rather quick verdict t was unanimous,. there were concerns on the ground in minneapolis but also in other major cities about protests and violence. so far appears to be pretty peaceful at this point but, you know, given the outcome people are calling this relatively quiet. i will end with this. maxine waters was very vocal

about the verdict before it was read and she did say this off-camera after the verdict was read, quote, you know someone said it better than me. i'm not celebrating. i'm relieved. liz? liz: all right. jackie, thank you so much. he is the first-time offender. he faces 12 1/2 years minimum in prison as a first-time offender. we'll take you live to minneapolis, brooklyn center, suburb where this went down, "daily caller" field correspondent, shelby talcot, live in brooklyn center, minneapolis. people are reacting. shelby what are you seeing on the ground? reporter: we're here in the city of minneapolis right outside of the courthouse where this went down. 13 minute drive from brooklyn center but behind me you can see a large crowd celebrating, they're cheering. there is singing, dancing,

speeches. everyone as soon as they heard the verdict that was the reaction t was essentially, you know, everyone was overjoyed. we saw people crying and they have taken to the streets now and are just sort of continuing that celebration. liz: so minnesota is still in a state of emergency, shelby, right? so stores are still boarded up. schools are closed. barricades are erected. is that still happening there? the national guard is still in force, right? >> yes. there is a national guard stationed around the courthouse area. we saw them down random city blocks. a lot of the street, a lot of the businesses are boarded up near us. if you see to my left the whole area of this courthouse is boarded up. so it is really shut down. i mean i ate lunch earlier today in a restaurant that was completely boarded up. there was actually kind of eerie

to you know, eat inside of not be able to see anything looking out. liz: yeah, shelby, so you know it seems like there is now calm in the city. is it anticipated when it gets dark that there will be rioting and looting? >> i'm not sure. that is a good question. so right now people are calling for everything to be peaceful. the crowd is very happy. you know, we have seen these things turn a lot of times in sporting events when their team wins it will turn to rioting and looting because, who knows why but right now that is not what we're seeing, when it gets dark that is to be determined. we'll be out here continuing to report if that is the case f it continues to be peaceful we'll be out here as well. liz: got it. shelby, you've been on the ground, in the front lines of major riots that took place throughout the last year. we're going to ask you to join us the rest of the two hours as we stay on this verdict and cover the story.

shelby talcot, we'll come back to you for updates. we have this coming in. a 28-year-old man was arrested in the drive-by shooting after maxine waters exhorted rioters and demonstrators to get quote, confrontational. he is 28 years old andrew thomas. a felon with a criminal record. he shot two national guard troops hours after maxine waters told rioters to show them we mean business. we mean business. joining us former federal prosecutor jim trusty. first, your reaction to the verdict, jim. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. no big surprise. no questions came out of the jury. they were pretty expeditious, moved quickly. not crazy quick. when you have no questions, the evidence the level the government had in this case it tells you it would be a conviction. was it 100% across the board all

three counts but the charges have actually favorable elements for the government to prove in this particular case. the second-degree murder in a weird way was almost the easiest charge for the government to prove although the wait at weigy iest. liz: cheers went out in brooklyn center, new york city, los angeles. the prosecutorsed told the jury, this was not policing. this was murder. he also said this is not an anti-police prosecution. this is not the state of minnesota versus the police. it is the state of minnesota versus derek chauvin. what's your take on that direction, that guidance? >> i think those are decent distinctions for the prosecution to make and look, they had maybe one or two little sound bite nuggets in their closing argument but overall i think this case was a good reflection

criminal justice system. people reacting on emotion every day that we have horrendous criminal justice system. we look at the trial, a judge that had a pretty firm hand controlling things, litigants did a nice job, defense and prosecution, a jury of peers, mixed races coming together, reaching a verdict supported by the evidence. so i think there is a lot to respect from what happened today and i'm kind ever leery of the politicians weighing in on emotions and people on the streets determined to cause a ruckus no matter what the news is. i think the system worked today. i think that is a good thing for us in the long run. liz: we've had criminal, criminal legal experts. we've had lawyers on. we've had justice department experts coming on saying repeatedly the cops are not on a killing spree going against black people. those are direct quotes we heard over the last year. do you agree with that? >> yeah. the numbers don't bear it out. if you look at the overall national statistics. any incident ever any person of

any race is killed wrongly by police officer is a bad moment but that doesn't mean you demonize or criminalize every action of every police officer across the country. it's a tough job. i would never want it. i would be out there shooting cats, dogs, everything that moves i would be so scared. it's a very tough job. training is important but there will be moments where the training fails. there is an accident less than a crime. and there will be moments like this one with officer chauvin where i think he just got egotistical about a crowd, even fellow officers telling him to cut it out, he wouldn't do it. the wrong guy at the wrong time. he will pay the consequences for it. liz: you know, legal experts say the most damning evidence was the video of bystanders saying derek chauvin, get off of his neck. his body sim are. he is limp. the defendant knew he was limp. he kept going. that seemed to prove the most damning evidence against derek chauvin but the point being that

this, studies show police officers across the country, a third from 50% are minorities. that police officers as a whole are not racist. do you agree with that? >> yeah, i do. i've been around police officers for 30 years of professional work as a lawyer, maybe occasionally around police officers when i was a kid. the bottom line, most of them don't get up in the morning say how can i go violate someone's rights? how can i go hurt someone? how can i destroy a family or a person? there will be bad seeds. that is obvious caveat we give with every profession but all in all, most of the folks out there as police officers are actually trying to protect and serve, and do a darn good job. i hate the grandstanding where everyone tries to take officer chauvin saying that is the symbol of the system. that is an outlier, not the rule. liz: experts in the media, we talked about the need to tone down the rhetoric and keep the

rhetoric low. don't politicize but experts in the media were stunned to hear president biden say, quote, i'm praying for the right verdict. i think it is overwhelming in my your thought the president should not step in to weigh on a criminal trial before a verdict is announced? should any elected official weigh in on an on going trial especially one where the wrong verdict will result in catastrophic mass chaos, what do you say? >> i don't really like the posturing or the ego that is involved with any political figure, pre-judging from the outside what should happen on any given case. now to biden's defense, the jury has been sequestered. presumably they were not going to hear it. presumably a day after maxine waters before they were sequestered was issuing threats. a person in the president's stature, that role, should talk about the system works. i would love to hear the president, instead of opining like anybody at the dinner table

would come out to say this is a case where the system, the criminal justice system, so many people criticized seemed to work the right way. take a minute to celebrate that, defend the institution instead of posturing for the latest opinion poll. liz: okay. let's do a recap. derek chauvin has been found guilty of murder. he is the first-time offender. he faces a minimum of 12 1/2 years in prison. this is a day of reckoning for america. the george floyd killing in police custody in may of 2020 last year, led to studies show, 2,000 cities and towns in all 50 states seeing some form of unrest. 200 cities had curfews. 30 states, d.c., national guard, 62,000 troops in those localities. started within weeks the protests. it ignited and took off 220 riots turned violent. up to $2 billion in damages according to insurance studies.

companies like apple, walmart, target, foot locker, t-mobile, saw their retail shops destroyed in these riots. let's get to maxine waters here. is maxine waters throwing gasoline and accelerant on this? did maxine waters interfere in the trial going to brooklyn center, flying in from d.c., exhorting protesters and rioters to get, quote, more confrontal, show them we mean business. could the defense move for a mistrial, jim what do you think? >> well, they did and look appellate issues are what the defense is now focusing on. the whole idea of protecting jurors from outside influences whether the media or politicians or both is a hot topic in terms of courts of law. i mean look at the dzhokhar tsarnaev case, the bomber death penalty sentence was reversed years later. we don't like the judge asked

enough questions whether pretrial publicity was affecting him. this maxine waters part is not the whole iceberg. it was a the final point. you had a civil settlement of $27 million as the trial was gearing up. police interracial shooting before the trial. there is maxine waters. the whole bunch of moments the defense created a record, judge you can't trust the jurors are not absorbing any of this. a lot of judges would bring the jurors to come in to ask questions make sure they didn't happen. that discretion on behalf of the judge will be a center piece of an appeal based on all the outside the court influences that may have come into play. liz: sounds like you're saying yes, derek chauvin lawyers could appeal this? >> absolutely. that they will appeal. if you go to trial -- liz: my point do they have a strong case, do they have a strong case on appeal?

>> they have a good case. i have would have to sift into minnesota precedent more to give you a informed opinion on that. it is not laughable when you talk about the issue whether the court properly managed the privacy and secrecy that should be afforded to the jury when they were getting through this case. so, again, if a court is activist in their approach like they were in the boston marathon bomber case, they can use that as a, as a reason to invalidate the whole trial and set it back to step number one. liz: okay. the, again, the defense and in the case had argued that maxine waters was intimidating the jury. let's listen to the judge on the case yesterday. watch this. >> i will give you that congresswoman waters may have given you something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned. this goes back to what i've been saying from the beginning, i wish elected officials would stop talking about this cases specially in a manner that is

disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch and our function. liz: he is also saying it is quote, abhorrent to a coequal branch. the judge had tough words there. what do you say to that? >> i tell you he is spot on. look, what he was trying to do is manage a complex, high-profile trial without the interference of outsiders and the outsiders insisted on trying to interfere. so i think his comments were well-placed. that doesn't mean that the appeal will be successful obviously. that will be up to some appellate judges to look at that whole record but it is not frivolous. not consistent with waters, everything else that happened in the trial makes it a bulletproof case on appeal. there will be real issues there to sift through. >> i want to be clear, the judge said after maxine waters flu from knew in from washington to minneapolis. she ever is what she sold.

told protesters and arc exists believed to be in the crowd that is rioting quote, if there is no guilty verdict we've got to stay on the streets, get more confrontational with police. show them we mean business. maxine waters backtracking saying she was just anti-maxine flying in to show support. she is about peace. you know, listen, let's back up, manages even waters grew up in poverty. she grew up with a single mom on welfare. she is also accused of inciting violence in the rodney king riots where more than five dozen people were killed and 2,000 injured. in other words, that she wasn't, she was more vociferious on the side of action on the streets and not about peace. what do you say to that? >> i mean look her record, what she did in this case stands for the principle of being unprincipled. of being, celebrating emotionalism at all costs. think about what she did. she interfered with the trial

where she wanted the officer to be convicted and so now she is in a position where he can use her as a basis to get out from that conviction. it is almost as if maxine doesn't care so much about the individual justice in this case but wants to say there is a flawed racist system that she and her great wisdom should be attacking every day and night. it is political huckserism. it is opportunism. it is bad for the country, i note probably will be without any consequence. it is not good for the system. its not good for the people of america. it is not even good for her constituents to have hateful rhetoric thrown out there recklessly, possibly affecting a trial this time. liz: okay. jim trusty, sit tight we'll come back to you as we have a live special edition, two hours of "the evening edit." we should point out that house minority leader kevin mccarthy and republicans failed on a resolution to censure maxine waters. we have action coming in at the

white house. the president and vice president will speak reportedly on the george floyd case and the verdict. let's get to the white house and best of your memory burr for reaction blake burman and reaction there. reporter: we're anticipating the president and vice president to be speaking at some point later this evening. we don't have a exact time when that may happen. we believe it could potentially be sooner rather than later i guess would be the best way to put it at this point. we are also hearing from the white house exactly how things unfolded here. how the president and vice president were watching the verdict, like so many across the country were. we're told the president, vice president watched with staff in the private dining room and then following the announcement of the verdict president biden spoke with the governor there in minnesota, waltz. the president and the vice president and first lady spoke with the brother of george floyd from the oval office. we received a statement from

former president barack obama and his wife michelle obama which they start off by saying quote, today a jury in minneapolis did the right thing. the former president goes on to end his statement by saying quote, michelle and i send our prayers to the floyd family in hopes they find peace. we stand shoulder to shoulder to all those committed to guarranty every american the full measure of justice george and some others have been denied. that from former president barack obama. we, again liz, are anticipating to hear from president biden and vice president kamala harris here at the white house some point here in the near future. liz? liz: thank you so much, blake burman. we appreciate you and thank you for your reporting. we'll be coming back to you later in the show. let's welcome to the show former hud secretary ben carson who is also a former surgeon. ben, we love having you on the show. first your reaction to the verdict in the george floyd case. >> i'm not particularly surprised.

we had plenty of evidence and you would have to be blind not to recognize this was a murder. it probably wasn't intentionally a murder but we all saw it and it is pretty difficult to explain in any other way. so the important thing is, it shows that our justice system does work. people don't have to take these things into their own hands. also i hope people will come to recognize that chauvin is by no means representative of policing in this country or of the justice system. and those who tried to make it into the norm are really taking advantage of the situation in the midst of this. liz: you know, we hear you loud and clear. so much of this case permeated so much of our society from voting rights laws to monuments and statues being removed, to

the fear that looting and riot something being normalized in this country as americans remain in shut down restrictions in so many parts of the country and some states here in the u.s. so when you, when you see 220 riots turning violent, two billion in damages, that you hear black lives matter, one of the members of black lives matter saying, we are going to continue looting. i support looting because black people should loot every store. it would not come close to what america owes us. when you hear that rhetoric, where does this tell us where the nation is headed? >> well it tells us that there are groups, there are individuals who have motives that are quite nefarious. what we need to be concentrating on is helping americans recognize that we are not each other's enemy. we should not be manipulated by

these individuals who absolutely want the fundamentally change america. they don't appreciate america. they try to distort the history of america. they try to erase it, of course their history is what gives you your identity and your identity gives you your beliefs f they can erase these people, make people very blank, you can lead them in almost any direction you want to. we don't want that to happen in america. it is so important that we begin to talk, begin to counter the arguments of those who are tried to destroy our nation. we can't sit back in a corner, keep our mouths shut, hope nobody calls your name or tries to cancel you. we cannot be the land of the free if you're not the home of the brave. liz: if you know, so what you're saying too is, in wiping out, so what happened here with this, this, what is happening over the

past year is the destruction, the attempted wipe out of american history. that is what critics have been saying. other media does not cover this. we've been covering it. the point being if you wipe out our history, what lesson can we learn from our history and be mindful of going forward? you understand my point, ben, right? if we wipe out our history, are we wiping out the lessons of the past? >> you know smart people learn from their history. people who are not smart try to destroy their history. and just remember when isis was around before it was largely destroyed by the previous administration. when they would go in and conquer a place, what did they do? take down the statues much [inaudible].

liz: you know, ben, you wrote an op-ed in the "washington post" this week where you were talking about what is missing in the debate about the george floyd case and racism in america. can you talk to us about that? >> yes. equality and equity are two different things and that was the point of the article. we all want equality and obviously dr. martin luther king pushed very hard for the concept of equality judging people not on the basis of facial characteristics which they can't help, but basing them own the person's character which they can -- [inaudible]. and this equity thing that everybody has to have equal outcome, your out come is not the same as this one's outcome obviously it is somebody's fault

than your own, that is not the american way. that is taking advantage and manipulating a situation. when you begin to give rewards to people based on the color of their skin, you begin to punish other people based on the color of their skin, isn't that racism also? it is the same thing. two wrongs don't make a right. what happened in this country in the past is racism, segregation, slavery, the whole thing, horrible, no question about it. but that's in the past. we can learn from it. we need to move on. we need to recognize that we have made enormous progress. we haven't eliminated the problem completely but we made enormous progress. i can tell you living, you know, in detroit and boston as a youngster, you know i saw horrendous things. we always -- worry about them. that isn't the case anymore.

some people say, well, but, you know, if you're a black person and you're walking in a white neighborhood, you know, everybody is going to be suspicious and they're going to call the police and everything. really? i never had that experience but i can tell you if you're a white person and walking in a black neighborhood you will attract attention. we just need to get it all die down and move on. because we're so much smarter than this. and we have to recognize that the nation is that the only thing that destroy us is us. we can't be destroyed by russia, iran, china, or north korea but we can be destroyed by each other if we buy into this. we the people are the ones who will have to be smart enough to figure it out. politicians, they're pretty hopeless but we the people are

the ones who have to figure this out, not let them or the media manipulate us into thinking we're enemies just because we disagree with each other about something. if two people agree about everything, one of them isn't necessary. liz: so you, do you think here, you know, we're going to get to the defund the police push in a minute. because again, this case, permeated so many parts of american society and it has changed parts of american society. has the, has the political class and the media failed us? >> of course they have. you know first of all, you know, the whole ideal of politicians you know, like, waters coming in and insinuating themselves into this situation a member of congress, coming over and insinuating herself into a judicial issue, that could have a very negative an influence,

that just doesn't make a lot of sense and you know, we need to call it for what it is. what i believe the politicians could do that would be helpful is encourage people to trust the system. and you know, if they see something going wrong with the system, then they need to work on rectifying it through their legislative process. but to going to people who potentially are rioters on the street and encouraging them to be more aggressive, that doesn't make sense. you know previously saying that if you see someone a member of this administration get in their face, harass them, how is that improving the atmosphere in our country? all that does is encourages people to get into their respective corners and throw

hand grenades at each other. [inaudible]. audio trouble] and you know, i have had personal experience with representative waters. obviously when i was the hud secretary i multiple times -- see if there were ways we could work together particularly on the homelessness. wouldn't do it. i met her in the cafeteria. went to shake my hand before covid. just pure hatred of people who don't agree with you. we have got to become more mature than that if we're going to complete as a nation. liz: i want to recap what you just said. maxine waters wouldn't speak to you when you were in office, wouldn't shake your hand, just

completely ignored you. we have heard about this going back to the 1992 rodney king case which, was roundly condemned, police activity there but maxine waters was critized even back then in 1992 for treating anybody who disagreed with her as quote, racist. so it sounds like she hasn't changed in terms of just blanking people out, not extending a bipartisan or even a hand of equanimty, to try to get to peace. is that what you're feeling? >> i think so, probably she is not going to change at 80 years old but what is important is that you know, younger people with a lot of vitality, they need to chart out their own course. don't be influenced by people filled with hate. learn to think about other

people, about how other people have opinions, other people have rights, and don't make it your job to make their lives miserable. maybe make it your job to convince them by talking to them and by the way you live. liz: ben, before we go, i would, you know, we wanted to talk to you about defund the police. many black civil rights, minority community leaders are now saying and begging for refunding the police. they want the police in their neighborhoods. let's listen to detroit police chief james craig on rashida tlaib saying get rid of all police. watch this. >> now i'm not supporting bad policing, not at all. we should hold bad police officers accountable but when you have people in seats of influence, you know this, liz, i didn't say seats of leadership because i cannot attach leadership to individuals, like waters, or talib.

that is not leadership. leadership is coming up with reasonable solutions, not knee-jerk reactions. let's face it, liz, we know this is really all about self-serving. this is self-serving and they're catering to a fringe group and it is shameful. it is shameful for the people who live in these cities who rely on policing every single day. like i said about rashida tlaib. i would be the first person to call her a resignation and throw her a going away party. she needs to be censored. liz: do you think she should be censured? >> liz, i probably would not weigh in on a situation like that except to say that the people who are being representatives need to stay -- [inaudible] you have a duty to vote in a way

that -- for your children, for all the people coming after you. now do you think that it is going to be good for your children to have people making important decisions, who push hatred and division? people who increased your debt to astronomical levels, that your children and your grandchildren will have to suffer for? think about those kinds of things. think about what you learned as a young person in church. about decency, and love of your fellow man, not hatred of your fellow man, not trying to cancel your fellow man but actually love of your fellow man. of thinking about the welfare of other people. liz: we hear you. you know this is so much -- this is so very much about, not listening to but hearing, but

hearing people. talib, critics have said, she is not going to her home district of michigan to say get rid of the police there, just putting out blanking statements and maxine waters is not going home to her home district of california telling her own people to get confrontational. it is also about accountability, right, ben? >> accountability is spot on and we need to just keep pushing that message. i say to people who are discouraged, don't get discouraged. get active. you know, freedom is not free. you have got to fight for it every single time. liz: dr. ben carson. you were terrific. thanks for joining us. we're getting word that the family of george floyd will be speaking just moments from now. we'll take that to you live. let's get reaction, get to gop strategist ford o'connell. what did you think of the george

floyd verdict, ford? >> americans should be proud. basically the justice system works. officer chauvin was given due process. a jury of his peers reviewed the evidence and he was found guilty on all three charges. i do think it will be interesting when it comes to the sentencing. i think if i'm disheartened about any one thing about the weighing in on the verdict before it was given from both president biden and congresswoman maxine waters and judge cahill made that point very clear. i'm concerned. i like to see trials that are judged based on the law, not judged on based on psychology and emotion of the moment because we need to make sure that our jurors and juries across this country can reach an independent and just decision. liz: yeah. the judge in the case saying he wishes quote, that elected officials would stop talking about it. you know critics are saying they were stunned to see the president weighing in on a criminal trial while the jury

was still deliberating and we just had jim trusty on saying that, that basically maxine waters, maybe the defense does have a strong appeal of this case. no one is condoning what derek chauvin did. he, cops keep coming on our show saying he is an outlier. if you walk in the shoes, live the life of a cop for just one day you would not want that job. you probably would not get up out of bed the next day with what police officers have to face on a daily basis as the thin blue line to protect americans. so you know, so your thoughts on whether or not, as you're a lawyer, they could have an appeal of the chauvin side of the aisle could have an appeal on this? they're going to appeal but the question, is it strong enough? >> well, that is exactly right, emac. look anybody can appeal.

that said i don't know how much merit it is. look, the jury took 10 1/2 hours to come back on this, they seemed to be pretty certain whoo they decided. the only wiggle room officer chauvin may have with the sentencing. i believe he left that up to the judge who will take some time to review but again i don't see how he will not be found guilty on appeal or given a retrial of at least one of these three charges. as of right now it is all three. to your point, you're absolutely right. look i think the democratic party, a lot of people out there don't realize how hard our law enforcement works. we need to protect the thin blue line. yes there are some bad apples. when we find those bad apples, as was the case today, i think it is important that our politicians and our media do not interfere with the scales of justice. let the process work. hopefully they will come to a just conclusion. liz: there were so much that is going on since george floyd was

killed last year that americans worried that our nation is basically, that it is society is changing. you know it is not just maxine waters, you know, flying to local protests in brooklyn center saying get more confrontational. it was the brooklyn center mayor firing the city manager when he simply said under the constitution chauvin deserves quote, due process. it was a defense witness in, his former home in california, protesters showing up at his former home to smear it with pig's blood. protesters showing up at personal homes much city officials in virginia, in california, in seattle, or gone, new york city. this is a new level of protesting and rioting this country has never seen before. this country has never seen before government buildings set on fire like federal courthouses. businesses set on fire to the

level they were. police buildings, union headquarters set on fire in cities around the country. ford, is, can we turn back, can we at any point right now turn back to where we were before the pandemic? >> i would love to say that the answer is yes, emac. that is the optimist in me. right now i'm not sure that is the case. i do think that the pandemic has changed america forever. i do think in many ways it is the greatest political gift to the democratic party in terms of trying to regulate peoples lives, being able to inject impassioned but not necessarily logical rhetoric and obviously even before the pandemic democrats were trying to get rid of law enforcement and frankly throwing a lot of volatile rhetoric around. look, i think democrats need to take a long look in the mirror, realize america is a better place when the law works and we protect and support law enforcement and we call out the bad apples when we see them and

justice is served. if we do that, that is what we should do as americans, not republicans or democrats. liz: got it, ford. sit tight. the family of george floyd is speaking now. >> we sad god, we need justice. we need it now. he answered. oh, man. i'm just, i'm just grateful. i'm grateful that my grandmother, my mother, my aunt, they got to see this history made. i am, i'm grateful, my brother is not heard. grateful and proud of him. i will salute him at every, every day of my life, i will salute him. because he showed me how to be strong. he showed me how to be respectful. he showed me how to speak my mind. i'm going to miss him, now i

know he is in history. what a day to be a floyd, man. [applause] thank you. thank you. >> thank you, terrence. now we will hear georgia. georgia. s baby brother, roger floyd. >> i want to thank all of the activists, people stayed in the streets, marching night and day. people staying on the streets for 83 days i may be wrong. thankful for everybody that stayed out there making a statement with us, encouraging us in our dark days, dark nights. we had them. you know, we got so many mentions flooding in from social media sites, can't read them all. it is so many. you know what?

thank everyone, each and everyone. so many people at grocery stores, walk in, hear from the elders, i believe respect from the elders. i respect american and women, i hear them walk up in grocery store, stop me. mask on their face, i'm in mask, i recognize the sound of your face, let me talk to you. i know who you are. we have, hold great conversations telling me what they experienced as a child, what they saw, what the need for change. we are hear for you. this is everywhere i go, my brother go, we all go. thank you people for the love in the streets. i'm thanking everyone. we couldn't have did this, this is victory for all of us. there is no color barrier. for everyone held down, pinned down. you know what, people? we are standing together in unity and this right here, thank our team. mr. attorney ben crump. -- [inaudible] [applause] the witnesses, donnie williams. i like to thank the jury, thank

everybody. thank god almighty. thank you. and you know what, people, we're not done yet? and, my brother georgia. georgia. is smiling. i know my hard it is. thank the jury from having the hearts and minds we are all community, because we know from the video it was open-and-shut case. everybody knows from the video. know what the jury had to say, guilty as charged. like to thank them. like to thank again everybody, the president, and all, but for george, this fight is not over. we're going to stand here together. we're going to try to get george floyd act passed. the act has to be passed, people. we're going to keep fresh sure on the senate, everybody. -- pressure on the senate,

everybody. george, i know he loves all of y'all. thank you y'all. [applause] >> next we're going to have a man who, hear me, george, him and george used to text each other all the time. congresswoman sheila jackson lee, talked about cutie holmes, in houston, texas, y'all called him with. ho. brandon williams, like a son to george. [applause] >> very emotional day for me. not out of words i'm overwhelmed with joy. i want to say thank you, first off thank you for all you guys advocating, protesting in the middle of a pandemic, putting

your lives, safety of your lives, appreciate that. especially the legal team, ben, tony, justin, chris, justin is back here. definitely, definitely, thank you to keith ellison and his team. [applause] i think they did an amazing job from start to finish. all of the evidence, all of the witnesses, everything, proved exactly what we saw on that video but yet we still questioning the decision of the jury. all the time system fails us as black men and women in america. with all the evidence, everything pointing to a guilty verdict, we somehow still don't get the guilty verdict or in some cases got my good friend kenny walker back here, we don't even get charges.

>> right. >> so today is a pivotal moment. , for america. it is something this country needed for a long time now. >> yes. >> hopefully today is the start of that. when i say a pivotal moment, we need change in this broken system. it was built to open press to oppress us. it was built against us. all the time we see people who are supposed, supposed to protect and serve. supposed to protect and serve, they do the total opposite. on the first day of trial reverend sharpton had a press conference. we knelt for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. and when i got up, and it was my turn to speak i said that every time i come out here it's hard.

because this is the exact place where they took somebody from me that i loved. i absolutely dislike coming here but i also said this time it was easy. we came for one thing and one thing only. that was justice for george floyd. and today, that's what we got. [applause] that wasn't hard at all. i'm big on faith and prayer i had a lot of faith but i was also optimistic. we need police reform bad. these guys, are able to wear a beige, go out in the field which means that they're qualified and trained to do their job at a high level.

but when you shoot and kill a man that is running away from you that doesn't pose a threat, you're not qualified, undertrained, or it's a choice and you want to kill black men and women. it is either one or the other. and i think today keith ellison and his team proved that just because you are a law, you're not above the law. >> yeah. >> we need each and every officer to be held accountable and until then it is still scared to be a black man and woman in america encountering police. >> yeah. >> when i say today is a pivotal moment, it's a chance for america to take a turn in the right direction and right a lot of wrongs so we don't keep adding to these names. so little girls and boys like giana are not growing up fatherless. so the families don't feel the

pain we feel. there is a lot of sleepless nights. no family should go through that. hopefully our country take a turn in the right direction today. and this day in history proves that it was a turning point. thank you. [applause] >> we'll hear from a few more family members. we'll try to get to your questions but i would be remiss, brandon said i have to acknowledge his man cliff who worked for us. [laughter]. and he talked about kenny walker, chris as we talk about all the brothers, we can never forget that they are killing black women as well and so, we got to remember breanna taylor. we have to remember jefferson, we have to remember sandra bland. and we know tamika mallory, may

13th, pam turner in couple weeks. we're having a march for black woman in baytown, texas. if you are outraged saw the video of george floyd killed by the police you have to be equally outraged killing pam turner, unarmed black woman down on her back, he shot in the face, in the chest and in the stomach. justice for george floyd means freedom for us all like he said, we're fighting for pam turner. with that we'll bring upturner who come from the harris county, texas area, cousins of george floyd. sharita mcgee and tara brown. >> thank you. wells first of all let me say my cousins and have pretty much covered everything. there is really not a whole lot left for me to say. i really want to echo the sentiments of them, when we

started this journey almost a year ago, that we were committed to doing a couple of things. one thing is to insure that justice was served and that we are going to be here, visible, present, actively involved until we saw it -- liz: okay. that is the family of george floyd speaking. impassioned moment for the family. you see al sharpton there. they're talking about a protest for black women killed in custody of police officers as well. ford, your final words on today's events? >> i take away these things from this press conference. one the burden has been lived for the george floyd family. they really feel justice has been served. for communities of color they see this as a turning point, watershed moment. last thing, one thing i hope capitol hit is listening. they didn't talk about day funding the police. police reform, better training. hopefully our leaders were listening as they spoke. liz: thank you so much, ford o'connell for your insights there. >> thank you. liz: joining us now, republican

congressman jody hice from house oversight. congressman, good to have you on. your reaction to today's events on the george floyd verdict? >> you know it is emotional for everyone. emotional for our country. we watched a police officer who had a number of misconduct investigations in the past. appears to have had a history of some very poor decisions. we all watched in horror with the events that took place with george floyd. and now we trust our justice system to make right decision. he had due process t has gone through the system and a decision has been made. the outlying question is, did that decision have any influence with voices of maxine waters and president biden? i think those are questions that still need to be answered somewhere along the way but until that is dealt with i think

we need to rest in our decision from the judicial branch of our government. we need healing in our country. we need to be able to trust one another again. we need to be able to trust god again, bring god back into our public square. it's a time for us to seek unity and peace and love for one another and love for god and let's move forward. >> you know, sir, we've been covering this story for more than a year. we do, 360-degree full scope, full spectrum, getting full context of all the angles what is going on here at fox business. we see, we see former president barack obama saying this is not the end. we will still pursue racism in the justice system. we see nancy pelosi now getting criticized saying, thank you george floyd for sacrificing

your life. minority groups and black activists are saying is was not a sacrifice. he was murdered. many people in the country support what pelosi and barack obama is saying. that is well underred into and accepted. people have the right to free speech, their opinions and what is going on. what we all see what happened on the streets of america, congressman. 30 people killed in riots. we have looting going on. we have at least two billion dollars in damages. riots, sparked, we saw 2,000 cities and towns in all 50 states seeing some form of unrest. we saw retired captain david dorn killed. he was responding to at looting after pawn shop in st. louis, missouri. we're trying to get all of the coverage done here of what is missing and what the media is not covering. do you feel that americans are

getting a well-rounded view of what happened over the >> no i don't, i think we watch snippets of what happened throughout the year but most americans are not aware that that has taken place week after week after week were all the media turned its head and covered other things but much of the media primarily liberal left-wing that refused to report on it. writing is wrong, in itself is criminal we are watching the destructive of individual lives and property and businesses that people have given their lives to build and develop only to have writers come in and destroy the businesses without any pushback from the democrats as a whole from the left, this in itself a tragedy that is taken place in our country and any wrong behavior needs to be dealt with

appropriate consequences and that includes improper rioting and protesting when it crosses the line, the first amendment into destruction of lives and property. larry: in other words this story is so emotionally charged and has electric charges firing throughout so many parts of the story but if you strip out the emotion and stick to the facts and get to the truth, that is the avenue to peace, is it not? >> sure it is but unfortunately it seems to increasingly believe in a culture that the facts don't mean anything, were driven by emotion rather than driven by truth in the facts. the facts are among other things that there are many issues and all of this and you are so spot on this is an emotionally charged issue and that has a way in itself of confusing the facts and it makes it to where you

can't see the forest from the trees. the facts in here, all criminal illegal behavior and conduct needs to have consequences. that includes crossing the firse streets across america and both political parties need to condemn it. we need to support those in the blue who are protecting us, yes deal with the bad actors obviously but those who are serving well and sacrificing their own potential lives and safety in order to keep a citizen save, we need to rally behind them with gratitude for the work that they do, there is so many issues involved in this whole past year as it relates to this but we have got to step back and get a 30000-foot view who we are as americans and rally around that those things that we agree with like liberty and justice for all and we need

to focus on those things and make sure it's a reality for all american citizens. larry: we hear yet again that the system works in the constitution works and our criminal justice system is right and good and works and in this case and more, we hear the argument that there is systemic racism throughout the police system and the court system and the justice system we heard that throughout the past year black lives matter and other individuals as well, do you believe that. >> i believe that is true for some people but not with a blanket statement thrown across virtually everyone in the country who is not a democrat but that's what is made to believe, those of us in washington, d.c. are having to wear the same blanket if we do

not embrace the radical left wing ideology of the left we among other things are racist nothing can be further from the truth and it is harmful when we throw a large net across massive segments of our population and accuse them of things that they are not guilty of, that is wrong and that is harmful and divisive and it continues to tear apart the fabric of our country. yes there are individuals in this country that are races on both sides of the issue here, racism is not something that only one particular race has, it spread across people all over, but it is not a blanket thing and i believe it's very harmful and destructive when we start accusing people because of their political beliefs of being racist for no other reason than they have political views that differ from the left-wing. larry: horace cooper is an