this. casey mulligan. thank you. >> thanks, jackie. jackie: that does it for us on "fox business tonight." "the evening edit" is up next with liz macdonald. and it starts right now. ♪. >> good evening, tonight joe biden ran for president problem mixing the country a rest. instead he seems to deliver a revolution. when the nation finally emerges from the covid crisis that helped elected him will it think it got what it voted for? joining us tonight, lee zeldin, fox news contributor sean duffy, former national deputy security advisor kt mcfarland, dr. marty makary, republican strategist ford o'connell and former dhs official mike howl. we'll soon hear what is in part two of biden's so-called infrastructure bill. tomorrow night he addresses congress to talk bit.

could his american families plan already be in danger of being derailed by his own party? the cdc, it finally gives americans an incentive to actually get vaccinated but why on earth did they wait so long? plus the recall effort against gavin newsom has reached a major milestone but are his days as california governor really numbered? also tonight the progressive mayor of portland, oregon is changing his tune about riots in his city and he is not alone. how crime is drowning outcries to defund the police. kamala harris pledges millions in aid to stem the crisis at the border, aid to foreign countries but will throwing money at the problem really fix isn't i'm gerry baker. i'm in for liz macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now.

gerry: let's begin in washington where president biden will give his first joint address to congress. that will be tomorrow night. chad pergram with what we might expect. reporter: good evening, gerry. this will be a different speech. usually pack about 1600 people in the house chamber. this time only a grand total of 200 people on hand, 80 house members and 60 senators. chief justice john roberts is the only invited member of the supreme court. only cabinet members, secretary of state antony blinken and secretary of defense lloyd austin. this is for covid protocols. president biden will wear a mask into the house chamber but remove it speaking from the dais. the house has special rules requiring house members to pass through metal detectors to enter the chamber. house members must wear masks inside of the chamber. senate majority leader chuck schumer says he doesn't know if senators will have to wear masks. republicans question whether there is hygiene theater. >> it is not clear exactly when

he told them about it. was it after he was secretary of state or during the negotiations. i say with this, what happens with a lot of guys, they fall in love with the deals. the deal is more important than the impact the deal has. reporter: that was marco rubio talking about iran. this is the biggest event at the capitol since the inauguration. the capitol is still rattled after the january insurrection. fewer people in attendance could make it easier for security. >> certainly january 6th has been dissected quite extensively. so i'm sure with high degree of confidence they have adjusts some of their procedures to insure the safety of this event but you know, this won't be the last one. reporter: president trump gave his final state of the union speech on february 4th, last year the day before the impeachment trial ended last year. technically this is not a state of the union speech. this is billed as a speech

before a joint session of congress. gerry. gerry: thank you, chad. covid theater, covid theatrics as you say. thank you very much. already seems clear that job jobe wants to be thought of some second coming of franklin delano roosevelt. tomorrow's address with a joint session of congress will be riddled with remarks from his predecessor. it marks the first 100 days of his presidency. that was a contrivance initially inaugurated by fdr. reminded during the peach repeatedly, like his famous predecessor during 1933 he is striving to rebuild a country out after deep national crisis in the wake of a one term republican president. fdr had a absolutely adoring media. we can leave the historessians to decide whether a creation after white house gender policy council will be up there with the creation of the tennessee valley authority in terms of its

historical importance. the larger problem, fdr's new deal was eenacted after a president was elected with a massive change. if fdr won a victory with landslide with huge majorities in congress. joe biden is trying to make a similar direction in the basis of what? he was elected by a slim margin. switch of 47,000 votes in three states would have seen him defeated. his party lost seats. barely held on to a tiny majority in the house. they were held to a tie in the senate. biden was elected in large part promising the nation of a pause from the tone of hyperpartisan ship of recent years. he is governing though he has a mandate to transform the country in a progressive paradise. we've seen a massive expansion of government. opening up the borders. imposing a radical left-wing ideology in race and gender politics. when the nation finally emerges from this covid crisis, under cover of which biden is ramming these radical changes through,

will it really think it got what it voted for? more or less bring in new york congressman lee zeldin. congressman, thanks for joining me. >> great to be with you. gerry: biden will obviously talk up his agenda tomorrow. talk about how he is governing in the interests of the nation. we're seeing, aren't we, one of the most radical progressives in h in the first one fun days we've seen in a long time. >> no doubt. margins of the presidential election in november of 2020, the margin of the house and the senate right now with the majorities, there is the other aspect of why president biden doesn't have a mandate to doth is that he chose a basement strategy of a campaign where he wasn't coming out to the public, answering the tough questions and saying, if you elect me, this is what i will do, i will pack the court. i'm going to be okay with the filibuster changing and d.c.

statehood, what we're seeing in the name of a infrastructure bill or a covid relief bill which should be bipartisan we're going to use it to fill up with our liberal wish-list. so they don't have a mandate from the numbers from last november. they also don't have a, he doesn't have a mandate. his administration doesn't have a mandate because they didn't say this is what he would do if he was elected. gerry: right, exactly. he won the democratic primary in part specifically because he wasn't a progressive, extreme progressive like elizabeth warren. as you say, congressman, he went through the campaign denying he was a radical. he laughed about it. you know, come on, man, he kept saying i'm no radical. you know i'm the old familiar joe biden. now we have a very radical presidency. "axios" is reporting, unspoken biden formula, talk like a rosie bipartisan, act like a ruthless partisan. what do you think? >> during the inauguration he was talking about unity and healing.

it is clear the version of compromise that the democrats and president biden have in mind is a version of compromise where you agree with them 100% of the time. they're going to put their ideas to the floor of the house and the senate. you can vote for it or not, republicans but don't think that you're going to be actively involved at all in actually crafting legislation. that is not really compromise. that is not common ground. that is not unity. and not only is this contradicting the way he ran his campaign, it also contradicts the main theme of his inauguration address. gerry: wonder, congressman, whether democrats, some moderate democrats i might get concerned. i noticed today james carville, former clinton strategist, told vox, wokeness is a problem, everyone knows it. he was quite dismissive about the radical way this administration is going, it will store up trouble for them. >> yeah, americans are furious right now. they're seeing it with the censorship of big tech.

the lying coverage and the covering up by many inside of the media, present company excluded of course. they're upset with what we're seeing in grade schools with the critical race theory, indoctrination in higher ed where if you take the liberal policy position in your essay that you would be in line to get a higher score than taking the contrarian view where what we should be doing in education is teaching, not brainwashing and allowing critical independent thinking, take whatever position you want. we're seeing it in our schools. we're seeing policies coming out of congress. media, big tech, the average american realizes they are being triangulated. that their value is are under attack. in many ways the average american feels like they're being targeted by this wokeness for cancellation. gerry: quickly, congressman, briefly if i may. you thrown your hat in the ring for new york governor on the republican ticket. new york is a deep, deep blue state. andrew cuomo obviously had his

troubles of late. what will be your message to flip that state? >> everyone, everywhere throughout this state is all-in for change. they want to restore new york for glory. they feel like this is the last stand. their wallets have been attacked. their freedom is attacked. i announced the campaign april 8th. zeldin for new york,.com i've taken three statewide trips. got back from 11 counties. everyone everywhere is hungry for this. we have to fight back. we can't be complacent. we can't accept this new reality with one party democratic rule at every level. it is bad for our country. we see it here in new york. it is bad for our state. new york city. we don't have to take it lying down. november 2022 the chance to fight back, win back our country and our state and our future. gerry: congressman lee zeldin we'll see how that goes. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. gerry: biden set to rhee lease part two of his so-called infrastructure bill when he

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♪. gerry: as president biden marks his first 100 days in office with yet another massive spending plan he is being pressured by some democratic senators to expand medicare as part of his next huge spending bill the american families plan. reports say itco cost as much as $1.5 trillion. that his plan is to focus on child care and paid family leave. the democrats want to lower the eligibility age for medicare, expand benefits for the health program, allow the program to negotiate lower drug prices, put a limit on out-of-pocket expenses. that sounds expensive. talk about it with fox news contributor sean duffy. thanks for joining me. >> gerry, good to be with you. gerry: sounds like there is no limit what the democrats want to spend money on. >> they have a slim majority in the house, handful of seats,

50-50 in the senate. they think they won the last election with a massive majority so they opened up the file be cabinets. talked about "medicare for all." this is one step closer to that. gerry, we're nearing $30 million in debt. there will be deflation on the horizon. there is a risk that the dollar may not be the global reserve currency anymore. that will have huge implications for the country. democrats don't seem care. this money will have to pay back somehow and try to print our way out of it. the consequence of that is devastating. they don't care. work on, let's get people back to work. enough with the programs for everybody. let's set up an economy where people can get a job, a good-paying job and support their families. if you don't have that, you live off the government, people become depressed. they lose self-esteem. you have other problems like drugs and mental health issues. this is a whole set of bad

policies from democrats. focus on the economy. focus on jobs. gerry: it is remarkable, sean, president biden, president obama came in 2009 in the middle of a deep economic crisis, everybody acknowledges that, came up with a spending plan, so-called shovel-ready spending plan. less than a trillion dollars. he had a big majorities in house and senate able to get it done. biden comes in, the economy is set to grow really strongly in any case this year, doesn't just double down on that, triples down and quadruples down on that. we seem to have made a leap here into a different kind of economic program. >> really good point. when i ran in 2010 i ran against the 860 billion-dollar stimulus package, shovel-ready jobs as you mentioned. so much of the money didn't go to jobs but to unions and states that overspent. upon reflection of the money how it is being spent. americans will be outraged and hold democrats accountable n 2010 they did the same thing.

they had a majority. had it for two years, they went as far and fast as they could. that is when they got obamacare. they're trying to do the same thing. more than likely lose the senate. lose the house. this is the window of time, eight months to get the massive progressive policies in. then they will go home and probably lose their races. what we saw, gerry, once you get the programs in like obamacare, you really can't get them out. this will be a lifetime of spending this country can't afford. we need more people pulling the wagon, getting jobs, paying taxes than those taking from the government, free health care, free housing, free food. let's get back to work. gerry: you used to work there, what happened to the centrist democrats, moderate democrats? presumably they're watching all of this going on thinking this is not what biden was elected on. this will cost us extraordinary amount of money, $4 trillion. joe manchin in the senate,

nodding through the 1.9 trillion, now he may balk at some measures biden coming up, particularly the tax increases the democratic party seems remarkably united in the extremely far left program they came up with. >> kristin cinema and joe manchy are problem. in the house democrats won a lot of moderate seats. you can't have the left-wing agenda go back to the voters to elect you. democrats in the moderate seats understand they won't get elected but the pressure is so great for leadership, to take this moment in time and get these big programs done. you will go down in history as a great democrat legislator. they buy into that all the while knowing they will lose their seats to republicans. kevin mccarthy will be the next speaker of the house. lee zeldin probably the next governor of new york. they don't seem to care. gerry: yeah. we'll see. i mean it is remarkable. many of those democrats are in congressional districts that donald trump won in the presidential election last year. it is pretty extraordinary

they're going along with this. sean duffy, thanks for joining me. >> thank you. gerry: coming up dr. marty makary joins us on why the cdc waited so long to give americans an incentive to get vaccinated. >> that research was done almost a full year ago. last may the study was done showed one in 300 outbreaks might be connected to an outdoor transmission. since then there has been a lot of different studies. the cdc has been very slow to adjudicate what we already know and people are getting frustrated out there. to help you break down boxes? arrrggh! what am i gonna do to you box? let me “break it down” for you... arrgggh! you're going down! down to the recycling center!

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announcing new mask mandate, new mask guidance from the cdc, easing supposedly the rules on exactly when vaccinated and where vaccinated people can wear, have to wear masks. what on earth took them so long to get here and why this continued caution? joining us to discuss this is johns hopkins university of professor of public health dr. marty makary. dr. makary, thanks of all indeed. first of all this is a very, very, tiny baby step, right? i think the announcement said, people who are vaccinated can go outside or biking on their own, for a run, meet with friends outside. that is basically it. it is not exactly liberation day, is it? >> that's right. the message i took away from it, gerry, everybody needs to keep wearing a mask outdoor which is inconsistent with the science except for a small carveout group, those far out from the vaccine and fully vaccinated and they're in small gatherings. we have to move more activities

outdoors. weather is nice. safer than indoors. when you make restrictions outdoors, guess what? people stay indoors. they're at greater risk of sedentary life-style, getting the coronavirus and of other problems and they gain weight. guess what the leading risk factor for hospitalization is? it is weight gain. gerry: there is not incentive for people to go out to get vaccination. all this involves, yes, maybe you can go on a bike ride without your mask, otherwise, sorry, mask up, why on earth would people already doubtful about getting vaccination, why would they think oh, i will go because that is really what i want to do? >> the message should have been everybody can and should go outside, not really can but should be outside right now. if we want to address vaccine hesitancy, gerry, we want to be serious about it, switch the clinics to walk-in to get rid of barrier of scheduling. stop shaming people who choose not to get the vaccine. some people have good reasons. we need to respect that. reward people with something you

can do after being liberated. stop talking about boosters. we don't even know if you need them yet. gerry: dr. makary, we knew about the science on this a long time ago, right, last year? we knew wearing a mask outside really for most people not necessary. >> classic cdc style they're very late. in this case they're about 14 months late. the science was actually out in april of last year where we learned in the study of 330 plus outbreaks, only one possibly could have been traced to an outdoor setting. what we're seeing here is consistent record with the cdc. their track record is late on warning us of the pandemic, late on masks last year, late on vaccine allocation, late on schools. i think they have lost a lot of credibility. gerry: what should be people to get vaccine, get vaccinated, your life can return pretty much to normal. >> get your vaccine. wait a month. then live a normal life. the only exception if you're in an indoor public gathering where

the owner of the business is asking people to wear mask. respect that a little bit longer, but live a normal life. that is the liberation. i don't think we'll need boosters. we'll see but probably not. you can have a incredibly liberated life. that is the message we should hear from the cdc, rather than playing the stingy gatekeeper they lend to play. gerry: the other thing that strikes about this, we got out of proportion the sense of risk here. we now know, said it repeatedly, written about it repeatedly the risks of transmission of covid in an outdoor environment are extraordinarily small, probably got much greater chance of being hit by a car, being killed by a car. the risk is incredibly small but because that risk is incredibly small we're still going to require people to wear masks. the same when we had the johnson & johnson vaccine pause a few weeks ago. a tiny, tiny number of people seemed to possibly developed blood clots as a result of this. because of that we'll pause. we've seen impact of that, which

is vast majority of people say they don't want to get the j&j vacs seen. we seem to be living in a climate we're not prepared to take even the slightest risk which is so unrealistic, because we take risks every time in our real lives? >> so tragic, the very low risks was studied at a time the virus was circulating a bit. we have a very low level. we have 50,000 cases. in a mild flu season we could have 400,000 cases. we're way below the numbers after mild flu cases. 23 cases in san francisco. most asymptomatic. eight people were in the hospital there. arizona hit zero deaths. michigan had the biggest outbreak is down 30%. at what point is it no longer a state of emergency? we have more cases of tb in the u.s. than we do coronavirus. at some point we've got to get back to a normal life. gerry: dr. marty makary, thanks again for marrying science and common sense. thanks for joining us.

>> thanks, gerry. gerry: still ahead republican strategist ford o'connell is here why he thinks people fleeing blue states could be taking their politics with them. the recall effort of blue state california governor gavin newsom reached a milestone. could his days as governor of the golden state really be numbered? >> i think what you're seeing in california folks from all walks of life that signed the recall petition, over two million, democrats, independents and republicans. a governor who botched the basics. it is not just covid. [ crowd cheering ] [ engine revving ] [ race light countdown ] ♪♪

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not know how they're going to get out of this mess, don't forget, you know, it is like battered wife syndrome. you're the one that beat me up and took everything away from me, now you're here to smile, give it all back to me, i'm supposed to say thank you, and what a great relationship i have with my governor? there has to be accountability. gerry: that was very powerful message from angela marsden on california governor gavin newsom's failed leadership of the state. she is the restaurant owner you may recall who went viral with pointing out the double standards of the outdoor seating rules. she couldn't serve customers in her outdoor restaurant, meanwhile a very large film cree was able to be fed. she has been very active in the efforts to recall governor newsom. it is now clear he will face a recall election this fall after

enough signatures to make the ballot. newsom is fighting back. he is fighting back challengers, including transgender caitlyn jenner who will run on the republican ticket. take this up with republican strategist ford o'connell. ford, this recall effort seems successful in terms of prompting a recall vote. is there really a chance governor newsom could be defeated? >> absolutely there's a chance he could be defeated. look only one governor in california's history has ever been recalled. no one has to blame themselves other than gavin newsom the position he is in. frankly californians are not happy how he conducted himself during covid, whether the school closures, inconsistent policies, vaccine rollout. here is what happens in the fall we'll have an election. california voters will have a choice of two questions. the first, should gavin newsom be recalled? if 50% of the voters say yes. it moves to question two, whether caitlyn jenner, a lot of

candidates are on there, whichever candidate gets the most votes on the second question will become the next governor of california. newsom cannot be recalled and be eligible to be reinstalled. there is a very good chance here. gerry: so-called jungle election, number of candidates from both parties, whoever gets the most votes, don't need to get a majority, just need more votes than anybody else? >> that is exactly correct. as long as a majority says gavin should be recalled in the fall ballot, the person is the winner who gets the most votes period. gerry: polling so far, people i guess are very dissatisfied, we heard from the remarkable restaurant owner about his leadership and about the double standards, failures after covid. i'm assuming he does face, on that first question, it is, he does face a pretty serious possibility that he could be recalled? >> that is exactly right. i mean his handling of covid has been really bad, even among

democrats. when you have a special election like that, a number of signatures it took to trigger this recall election by was 12% of those who previously voted in 2018, you know those who signed the petition will show up to move with their feet. yes, it is very likely he will be removed from office. the only question is who the new governor of california will be. gerry: ford, the wider topic, one of the things we saw today, was results of the census, the census showed for the first time ever california's population has declined. here you have a state with all the resources california has, entertainment business, silicon valley, beautiful weather, beautiful scenery, people are flocking to california for the last 150 years, for the first time ever, i think california's population declined as people leaving the state. it means they will lose a congressional state for the first time but people are leaving the state in droves and i wonder what effects has on other states, they go to other states, many perhaps take blue

politics with them, to red states, will they turn the states purple? >> that is a big worry. let me put it this way, if you look at the new census data, people are leaving a lot of mismanaged blue states, the usual suspects, california, new york, illinois, michigan. where are they moving? primarily to the southeast, southwest, particularly my home state here in florida. it's a big concern for us, a lot of these people say i have to get out of california because it's a sanctuary city or overtaxed, overregulated, come down to my neck of the woods in florida, they love the quality of life. they don't realize why it is so popular, low taxes, low regulation, a beautiful coastline, high quality of life. they start voting for the very policies that destroyed california and new york and made them unliveable. we have to be clear that that can't happen in a place like florida or texas. there is a reason why we're hotbeds in florida and texas and the reason is because our policies are very different than california and new york and we

hope the new arrivals understand that. gerry: i guess exactly there is a balance between the new arrivals understanding what policies work, low taxes, deregulation and reason they're going to the states in the first place, rather than bringing their own politics with them. presumably, texas has been trending a purple state. florida is becoming more red, more republican. a balance between those two factors, right? >> it is absolutely a balance between that. people move to where jobs are, where money is respected to where you have a high quality of life. i just don't think a lot of folks whether they be from los angeles or new york city necessarily understand the sort of formula that we've used in texas and florida to make them the most popular destinations in the country. let me tell you, it's a big issue because i see it here in florida. i grew up in texas. it is not just who represents you in congress or the united states senate, also our school boards. you have to make sure you help

reeducate, persuade the new arrivals, we're doing it right, we have to keep it that way. gerry: ford o'connell, power of taxes, high regulation, driving people away. we'll see whether they bring politics with them. ford o'connell. thank you very much. >> thank you, my friend. gerry: up next the a new york city police detective is attacked in broad daylight. how crimes like these are happen more and more in some democratic controlled officials forcing officials to change their tune, on, you remember that phrase, defunding the police? >> you see people leave in droves. look at new york. i think new york state lost over 300 people in the last year because they had the radical shutdowns. defunded police. people are fleeing, going to states run with much more sane conservative leadership.

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doing a 180 on violent crime in his city. rioting erupted again in recent weeks. of course parts of his city were a virtual battle zone last summer during the peaceful protesters they were called. mayor ted wheeler is urging residents to stand together to take back the city and he is not alone. l.a.p.d. is asking for $67 million and more sisters to respond to unrest. elizabeth city, north carolina, declared a state of emergency forcing all schools to go remote ahead of the video of shooting of andrew brown. crime is at record levels, especially violent crime. yesterday a new york city police detective was hit in the head with a stick at a crime scene. another city cop was killed in a hit-and-run. talk with national security advisor kt mcfarland. thanks for joining me. >> a pleasure, gerry. gerry: should we welcome

recognition, belated recognition by some democrat mayors, the violent protests need to be addressed by traditional policing? or should we be alarmed the democratic party as a whole seems to push hard in the other direction? >> you know i think actually we're getting to the woke breaking point and here's why. what did anybody think, defunding the police, no police, allowing mob violence, encouraging cancel culture, encouraging people to tear down statues of george washington, james madison, even abraham lincoln, you know, the critical race theory taught in our schools, did anybody really think this was going to work? of course it hasn't work. they made their bed of roses. i think they should be encouraged to come around to see the common sense that they were so missing in their thinking a few months ago. gerry: you're still seeing the message from democrat, whether it is from mayors, from democrats in congress, frankly from the president, vice president themselves to

blame the police every time, every time there is a police shooting, we saw that, or police incident, we saw it with the incident last week in columbus, ohio, every time this happens the immediate instinct, always the police's fault. the police are being held up as being responsible here for these terrible incidents. so that seems to be deeply rooted in the democratic party's view of these things. >> well the democrat party, the white house, the washington establishment and the woke media, increasingly in corporations but it is not rooted in the american people. i think that is the really telling thing. we're seeing people all around the country say i have had enough. whether people in new york private schools. my daughters went to one of the schools in the news lately. parents have been pulling kids out of those schools for the last year or two because of increased racism, they call it anti-racism but really is reverse racism being preached. the cancel culture, woke

culture, at the end of the day abraham lincoln said it best, you can fool all the people some of the time. some of the people all the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time. the american people are not nuts. eventually, i think eventually coming sooner than a lot of democrats think, eventually we've had enough. thank you very much. we'll send you packing. we'll have police forces that work. mayors that work. economy that works. we've now had quite enough of this radical left agenda. gerry: you make a good point like the cultural revolution. it is like the cultural revolution. people are afraid to speak out. very brave parents spoke out about extraordinary, kind of racism being taught in these schools. a couple other people willing to stand up. you get this cancel culture. we've seen this with publishers refusing to publish books which they don't like. people, i know myself from people that i know in organizations, they are very nervous about speaking up for fear of being shamed or

canceled? >> of course. and that is for too long, those people have been silent. i do think we're now at the breaking point because more and more people will step forward. you know, it gets to critical mass. i went through this period, gerry, i was thinking in my head, whoa, when this cancel culture, mob violence, are people nuts? do they really believe it is going to work. oh, my gosh, a lot of people who do think this is going to work. gerry: right. >> at the end of the day, people are not nuts. we're going to decide it just doesn't work, doesn't keep our cities safe, it doesn't educate our kids. it doesn't give us jobs. thank you very much. take your cultural revolution sinned it packing the way the french revolution, china niece cultural revolution at the end of the day they don't work. gerry: i put in a "wall street journal" editorial, these people are finally getting mugged by reality. kt mcfarland thanks for joining us. >> thank you, gerry. gerry: former dhs council mike

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>> to house republicans want to know how much the biden the administration is pending on the ongoing border crisis, some put the u.s. government spending as high as $60 million per week, that is a record number of other company minors crossing the southern border. meanwhile the vice president has pledged $310 million in additional humanitarian aid from guatemala, honduras and el salvador to stem the tide of migration to those countries to the united states, that is a lot of money, u.s. taxpayer money to foreign governments. let's talk to dhs oversight council. thank you for joining me. this is a lot of money, a lot of

money to house the migrants at the border, another planning to spend a lot of money on the central american governments to try to persuade people not to leave and come to the border or help them with the security. is this money well spent? >> absolutely not, if i was one of these countries in joe biden kamala harris offered to show up and fix the problem i would tell them to get away because they bid a disaster for the united states in handling any migration issue. they want to blame the other countries because they can't look in the mirror and look up and realize it's part of under purposeful undoing of the term border security and enforcement measures is what caused the crisis. furthermore if you want to make this migration problem better and fix what's going on in the country, stop, stop, stop taking their use, hardest workers and best and brightest future families away from their country and mass every single year, they

will not get better as long as the united states has an open border inviting everyone in it the permanent disaster and abiding the administration. >> is putting all this money to persuade people to stay in honduras and water mall and el salvador but at the same time the message you're sending to the potential migrants, come on in, that is looked truly what joe biden says before he took office, you're welcome, come on in, you're doing everything providing illegal immigrants and just recently we saw new measures to stop illegal immigrants being prosecuted and having anything done to stop them from coming into the country you're encouraging them in new york is offering money for illegal immigrants, what could this possibly do in these countries like honduras and guatemala that is actually going to counteract the attraction for these people coming to the united states. >> absolutely nothing is a

complete waste of american treasure, it's only because this administration needs to do something and they're refusing to address the root cause of the problem which is their policies, their seeking to blame something other than themselves. this countries too smart for that, they sell this administration campaign on promise and acted on undoing all of these things, the shutdown ice, they stop the border wall, the invited cartels to drop off kids at the border by adding title 42 protections that were previously expelling them. they ended the remaining mexico program where people had to wait in mexico for their asylum claims to be heard their seeking to do something and focus issue on anything but their own behavior. for them if it comes as a bill to the american taxpayer and the hundreds of millions of dollars, they don't care there onto the talking point and it's terrible. they're doing it because they think it helps the electoral policy if they instill mass illegal immigration into this country. >> we've got ago but why are

they doing it they think this benefits them politically. >> absolutely you have to look at the whole picture, over decades and decades, why now we are seeing them push to loosen all voter integrity so illegal aliens can vote in the next thing that they want to do is get everyone in that crosses her border illegally, they think american voters are not enough, they are ruining our sovereignty, security and well-being because they think that helps them at the polls. >> is an extraordinary situation and there even changing the language so were not allowed to call them illegal aliens are illegal immigrants, we have to call them exactly the terms that they decide, an extraordinary state of affairs, thank you for joining me. >> i am gerry baker i am in for elizabeth macdonald, you are want to "the evening edit", that doesn't press tonight, thank you for watching and have a great

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