♪. >> good evening tonight president biden on tour trying to sell americanus portraying another spending plan as he and his democratic colleagues seek to massively expand the role of government and the u.s. economy, today he pledged $80 billion to fix the rail system, is this unprecedented tax and spending binge really to keep a u.s. on track, joining us tonight congresswoman beth van duyne, steve moore, kt mcfarland and christine whiten, also adam guillette, charlie hurt and tom homan. also tonight the president is taking a victory lap for

something he inherited. despite biden and joe biden's claim that his house was on fire when he took office, making green or going green, questions arising over john kerry's business dealings in his neutral climate as he champions biden's green agenda. plus as biden pulls u.s. troops out of afghanistan al-qaeda is reportedly promising war on all fronts against america. and new tonight new york governor andrew cuomo defense blocking the release of the true number of nursing home deaths and his state while also blaming president trump. after months of record-breaking surge of migrants at the southern border president biden now claims the crisis of the border is under control. a college professor denounces one of her students for daring to call the police heroes.

i am gerry baker and for elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. gerry: president joe biden continues his u.s. tour selling his tax-and-spend agenda, today in philadelphia the president promoted his infrastructure plan including $80 billion for rail, some of that will go to amtrak which has been losing money consistently over a long period of time. so is this yet another example of throwing taxpayer money problems? take a look at this. >> in my american jobs plan i propose spending $10 billion a year on passenger rail and freight rail. of this two thirds would support existing amtrak routes including the northeast corner but nationwide. were talking about union jobs, i

said, were taking care of wiring switches, fixing bridges, tunnels, modernizing stations and repairing and rebuilding the vital infrastructure. gerry: for reaction let's bring in texas congresswoman beth van duyne. she's on the infrastructure committee, thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me i appreciate the opportunity to answer these questions. gerry: we know the president loves trains he's like a kid with a vinyl train set but he loves it intel spent ten of money on amtrak, amtrak has been losing taxpayer money for years and years and years, what is the point of this and how much more is this going to cost. >> i hope you didn't put me on to defend this program because i can't, it's a great question i know that's $80 billion he's directing toward amtrak, you

look amtrak employees, 20000 people in fees worried about jobs why is he not directing it toward freight real which is what we need that has over a million folks that they employ. i see this is another opportunity to throw billions of dollars out blue states, that seems to be called what his focus is on. but if you start to get about the dollars that are adding up in what opportunity cost, we have $2.3 trillion infrastructure deal that is thrown out with no transparency, no accountability, no details followed by another $1.8 trillion because we do to reality human infrastructure that doesn't have any roads, bridges and at all. so you're looking at a $4 trillion spent and it's not touching the water infrastructure that we need and what we need to be competitive globally, those things have gone out the window. gerry: as you say there is

clearly a case and i think a lot of republicans support genuine infrastructure, possibly with improving the railway network for freight in improving airports and roads, but as you say a tiny fraction is going towards that. you think there's a chance that may be republicans can come up with a plan for spending themselves and get more directly to what's needed as opposed to the schemes that seem to be designed largely to put money in the pockets of labor unions. >> the transportation infrastructure committee for exactly the reasons as you said, it should be the most nonpartisan committee we have in congress, highways, roads, bridges are not republican or democrat, the good paying jobs that you put into building those critical infrastructure and their what we need to stay competitive, as of last year you seen what's happened during the pandemic and the importance of

moving goods and getting services out to individuals when they needed the most. we seem to be failing, there's only 6% of the $2.3 trillion package that even includes roads and bridges. if you're very generous in your definition of infrastructure you're looking at 24% but the vast majority of the cost are for green new deals phase one, paying for electronic service stations for a technology that may or may not be our future. there's a lot of other r&d projects that are looking into carbon footprint and were kicking winners and losers and i say we, the biden of administration is picking winners and losers and spending trillions of dollars. gerry: i did notice when the president addressed the congress, 500,000 charging stations on the highway network for electric cars and he said those that we built by the

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anxious to be able to work with him in a bipartisan manner, so far republicans have not been at the table, the huge multi trillion dollar programs haven't been before the transportation and for structure committee. gerry: thank you, we have to leave it there but thank you very much for that and enjoy your weekend. gerry: joe biden taking credit for an economy that was already booming when he took office. in attacking the previous administration. watch this. >> 100 days ago america's house was on fire, we had to act and thanks to extraordinary leadership is speaker pelosi, the majority schumer and the overwhelming support of the american people, democrats, independents and republicans, we did act. gerry: joining is now former economic advisor to president trump, steve moore. the house is on fire january the

20th and hundred days later it's a booming u.s. economy what do you think of it? >> i take this personally because they did help donald trump we put together an incredible program and we created the lowest poverty rate in the history of the united states we had incredible low unemployment and we had a surplus 7 million jobs in this country, wages went up and then if you look back about nine months ago and you look at what the forecast is almost every economist on the left and the right said it would take several years to get out of this cratered economy that's been hit so hard by covid. i was looking at the chart in your newspaper today, the wall street journal and it showed an incredible v-shaped recovery that we've had in the last nine months, the recovery as you know began in june and july, it didn't begin in january, we've seen a much better recovery and much swift recovery than

virtually any other company that we compete with, much faster than europe and japan and all these other countries, i think biden deserves a lot of credit for a pretty good vaccine distribution program, the vaccine is a stimulus, you know that, we don't need trillions of dollars of spending, we do see people vaccinated the businesses reopened, i think joe biden would've been really smart to salute donald trump and say thank you donald trump for the vaccine in getting this started, working to complete the job but they can't bring themselves to do that. gerry: steve, you make a good point, i remember we talked to you and others at the time there was a lot of concern last year even when the recovery came that it would be slow and if you compare this to the recovery after the financial crisis in 2008 - 2009, this is a dramatic much faster recovery, people were concerned that we had scarring in the economy that it would take some time for those jobs to come back, we come right back, why don't you think there

hasn't been long-term damage that some people fear they would be last year. >> this recovery has surprised me, i was a skeptic, it's really a testament, not just to trump our private is in his men and women people that run great company small and large who somehow brought this economy, 98% way back which is pretty amazing what we vendor and shows the dynamism of a capitalist free market system. but i wanted to mention one other thing, if we cut taxes and tax rates not because we love corporation and went on to help the rich we did this because we wanted to make america more competitive and bring jobs back to the united states among other things lowering our tax rate so we were competitive with china, japan and so many other countries and we did that and it worked the left loves to talk about science, we do scientific

experiments, we have a trillion dollars of capital. in fact i was talking to larry kudlow and he says the numbers are $1.5 trillion that he brought to the united states that was repeated to this country from the rest of the world because in no small part we cut the tax rates, why would we want to raise them up again you're gonna get the opposite result in the capital that flowed here will flow out of the united states. gerry: thank you very much for joining us, the u.s. economy is recovery much more quickly than any other country in the world including the european economies in joe biden seems to be intent in turning the u.s. by his policies pray thank you very much for joining us. still ahead kt mcfarland is here to weigh in on the questions arising over john kerry's past business dealings and its future as he champions biden's green agenda he not only wanted the biden administration with questionable business time.

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has a stake in the outcome. gerry: that is john kerry, president biden, the man responsible for saving the planet. in that role it's likely he'll maintain a pretty significant influence on the energy and environmental policy. the new report details kerry's previous business ties to a number of firms in the environmental energy space following his time as secretary of state including consulting fees for the renewable energy portfolio. joining me too discuss his former deputy security advisor kt mcfarland. thank you for joining us. >> i have to tell you the stink to high heaven, and a senior official of the biden demonstration, john kerry should have to abide by the white house ethic guidelines. in his argument, he has complied, sold the investment that he had and the problem is

nearly made the money, by the huge infrastructure bill, the stocks in all these companies have already gone up, by selling them after three months, six month, eight months to comply, he already made his fortune. i think it stinks to high heaven, i was a member of the trump administration, we can only invest in government bonds, treasury bonds, and government approved trusts. i think somebody's giving him of ride. gerry: the rules are pretty clear that these divestitures are required in john kerry is a very wealthy man and it's hard to imagine that anything that he does, everything that he does in his role of climate is going to have some impact, positive or negative on energy companies particular green energy companies and its extraordinary even if he would now ladies have

these investments in these had been at a time when liberty benefited from a lot of what the president been proposing. >> it's worse than this because he used to own stocks and oil and gas companies, he sold those before those went down. it's up to the government ethics, they have a lot of discretion and said this is allowed it is an allowed their gonna spend $6 trillion. there is very little that isn't gonna somehow benefit from the windfall speed when you mentioned the investment oil companies it's like he's practiced a form of arbitrage by selling his oil stocks while maintaining his green energy stocks and is green in her bg investment in coming along and recommending presumably to the president and series of policies

that will favor green energy and disfavor oil. >> is played both sides but if these divested himself of the oil and natural gas, once he apparently is still holding onto are the green energy jobs, not only is he doing arbitrage buddies doing it pretty successfully and unethically. gerry: he is supposedly signing an ethics pledge to say he won't participate in any decisions. we know that is not enough, don't we. >> of course it is not enough, $6 trillion is an awful lot of money that's going to go into different places, he apparently has been allowed to keep his own personal trust, i know in the trump administration people had blind trust even if they met all the requirements, they said that's not good enough, you have

to divest yourself in everything, the other thing that makes me upset, steve rafter that was in the obama administration, very successful, he's a far left guy, he was in charge of the government bailout in the automobile industry. he was on a new show yesterday morning and he said what bothers him about all the spending, it's not just inflation in the deficit in government, how are they going to execute this, they start from scratch in their gonna spend $6 trillion there is an opportunity not just for john kerry making some money on the side but they won't be able to execute it and it'll be an awful lot of money wasted in fraud in every other way there charging the american people, every man woman and child in america will have to pay $1500 per year for their green energy proposal, that's an awful lot of money. gerry: is a good point, in the circumstances you can't get the money out the door fast enough,

they're just on the investment opportunities to spend that efficiently. i do wonder if john kerry does a little flying around in private jets, any investments in private jet companies but perhaps we should see where his way to keep those as well. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you very much. gerry: former state department official christine whiteman on al-qaeda reportedly promising war on all fronts of america as a removal of troops from afghanistan is now underway. >> it is a recognition that the radical islamic ideology in the war that they're conducting again civilization as we know it is a generational issue, it's not something that's going to be open five or ten years and a modest commitment like that gives us insurance and guaranteed that al-qaeda and isis that's what this is all about, it is not about nation building in afghanistan, it's about the protection of the

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gerry: the u.s. troop withdrawal is formally underway in afghanistan. president biden wants a 2500 remaining troops out of the country by september 11, that would be the 20th anniversary of the terror attacks which prompted the u.s. involvement in the country in the first place. what will happen to afghanistan itself, the fear is the u.s. withdrawal will lead to civil war or another taliban takeover.

let's talk about the scenarios with former state department official christian white. thank you for joining me. >> great to be here. gerry: we spoke about this before and how president trump wanted to pull u.s. forces out of afghanistan a president biden has announced it, it's become pretty clear that military leaders here and other nato countries are pretty unhappy with its decision and they think it's over hasty and it could lead to real instability. >> i think it can lead to instability, so they get the right decision to make. the reasons as president biden articulated in his address to congress, to get the people who planned and executed 9/11 and also to send a message to the people who hosted the taliban, if you host people he strike the united states then there will be a very significant cost to pay, 20 years later in ten years after bin laden was killed, that point has been made, anyone

around the globe knows if you tack the united states there will be serious consequences. however, will there be a civil war in afghanistan, arity would argue there's one going on now, will there be instability, yes. there will be a moment when the taliban pull into kabul and raise their proverbial flag. but the place will not look like beverly hills. gerry: anthony blinken what he calls free riders have it kept the country stable. take a look at this. >> no one has an interest in civil war in afghanistan. certainly the afghan people don't, i don't think ultimately either the afghan government or the taliban, none of the afghan neighbors do and other countries in the region that have basically been free riders for the last 20 years as we've been engaged to our nato allies and partners who will now have to

decide given their interest in a relatively stable afghanistan, giving influence that they had whether they will try to use that influence in a way that keeps things within the 40-yard lines. gerry: christian, what do you think, it makes sense i think we would agree, doesn't sound like an invitation for russia and pakistan and iran to play a bigger role in afghanistan. >> probably not, it makes sense but it doesn't mean it's going to happen, they certainly benefit from having islamist on the back heal and i put on the defensive of afghanistan, china surely doesn't want active jihadist groups in the region considering what it's doing to the muslim uighurs in its own country. i think the secretary analogy really breaks down with pakistan. pakistan does see it of having an incentive to have chaos in afghanistan and been more than willing to work through very violent the hottest groups in the past. and sees that as a way to expand

its own influence into one of the more important neighbors. gerry: a lot of people worry about the afghan citizens who have been supported in the united states translators and people who assisted u.s. forces and administrators there that they can be targeted. how much of a concern, does a u.s. have an obligation to those people? >> is a big concern, the united states does have a big obligation considering the numbers thrown around about the increase in refugee numbers coming to the united states, some people say 50000, some people say 100,000, that's everywhere and there's lawful immigration and unlawful immigration in this country in certain we can take the people that risk their own lives it to help us in afghanistan, these are by definition modernist pro-american people and we would be vastly compounding the tragedy of afghanistan if these people were to be left behind to come under the control of the

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gerry: andrew cuomo is clapping back after accused of being deliberately hiding his stakes nursing him ductile. he defends blocking the release of the actual numbers while also blaming the trump

administration. take a listen. >> we didn't want an accurate number because everybody would say is inaccurate. this was all politics and all a political football but morphed into an investigation. gerry: for more on this let's bring in adam guillette, you probably heard governor cuomo insist his team is taking their time to get the numbers absolutely correct before they gave the correct numbers of deaths in nursing homes, do you buy that? >> i don't buy anything that that monster says. previously people were getting sick from covid now we get sick from hearing that man talk. everything that man says is a lie, his policy cause thousands of deaths, he covered it up and under federal investigation thank goodness, but it speaks to privilege, they think they can get away with anything in the media lets them do just that. gerry: he said former president

trump was behind political investigations and blamed it all on trump and said bill barr was a political operative and all of this was done because they were fearful the trump administration was going to come after them for political reasons. >> obnoxious, how long will we listen to these sorts of lies, the man has to go, where is the cancel culture crowd, the twitter mob online those woke folks go after people for old jokes that were made ten years ago, this is a guy who caused thousands of deaths and sexually harassed or assaulted a half-dozen women all while using government resources to write a book on leadership, when are they going to cancel him. gerry: is extraordinary, there have been stories and under multiple investigation, sexual harassment, the nursing home death is under investigation, he seems to be toughing this out in these up again talking about running again for the democratic

nomination. it's pretty remarkable and it's a media that joe biden covers for him. >> that's exactly right, when these politicians think they can get away with anything they will try everything, that's exactly what he said he think the media is going to let up on it i'm glad this channel is covering, the accuracy media we've been trying to keep the story live, we had a mobile billboard parked in front of the any under emmys andrew cuomo got an enemy when he lied to people we had a billboard that said cuomo lied, thousands died in our website cuomo lied.com we've been interviewing the family members of some of his victims and will make sure this man is held accountable. gerry: do you think there's any chance, it seems the media has moved on from these stories, do you think there's any chance, i think part of the problem as i

see it, he's the captive of the left and the newark democratic party and he has to go along whatever they want, he did over the budget and taxes and the immigrants in the united states, it suits the left to keep them in place because they know he's only there by their permission. >> that's right, they're happy to have him around because they know he will go along with what he likes. what is that say about this man, the media, new york times has gone after them, democrats has called for his resignation, that your once the media darling and members of your own party wanted to go, that is a new level of her rent his behavior. i think if the pressure is kept up and if we keep the story live in if they revoke his enemy, i think eventually he's gonna have to go, there's investigations and i think we might see in impeachment which would be a

wonderful thing to see, politicians must know that they can't get away with this sort of thing. gerry: the contrast of the media coverage a year ago of andrew cuomo and ron desantis, the governor of florida on every single major, deaths, hospitalization, seriousness of covid, the economic performance, it's clear to santos did a better job of the media treated desantis as a monster in andrew cuomo as the hero. >> that's exactly right i'm a proud floridian i remember when they ran the story how horrible it was that we were reopening the beaches in florida because what's more dangerous than being outside socially distant from people swinging in the ocean, also you what's more dangerous, forcing nursing homes to accept covid positive patients, if you look at the death totals from cuomo's actions versus anything that might've come from us being allowed to socially distant in the sand, it is morally

outrageous the way the media covers the stories, they treat as floridians were fools and cuomo like he's the savior when the man is a lying murderer who sexually assaulted women in austin ford are having a darn good time. gerry: i'm old enough to remember for the questionable performances and i know exactly what you mean. i pray much for joining us. gerry: when we return charlie her is here a college professor who prorated the student for calling police heroes. >> police officers have committed crimes and got away with it never convicted. i think the person who has family members who are police officers. >> so who did you call. >> i won't call anybody

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gerry: a college student in southern california speaking out after he was berated by his professor during a zoom class for calling police heroes. the student daily wire it was happening when he was given a presentation to his communication class about cancel culture and how it's turning the country apart. watch this. >> i think top the heroes and they have to have a difficult job. i would say a good majority of them, we have bad people in every business -- wait, wait. >> a lot of police officers have committed atrocious crimes and got away never been convicted. i'm thankful for the person has family members who are police officers. >> professor who would you call. >> i wouldn't call anybody. gerry: joining me too discuss this is washington times opinion editor charlie hurt, i'm guessing that doesn't look like the spirit of open intellectual

inquiry that our universe is supposed to be providing. >> i don't know whether to be depressed or thrilled i was the teacher that was absolutely ridiculous, the teacher look like a kindergartner having a temper tantrum but on the bright side yet the young man who is acting like the adult and calmly entertaining the teacher and her idiot questions hinder idiot political agenda she's trying to push any calmly walking her through everything, i'm torn, obviously very distressing to consider the state of education in america today and anything can overcome it, it's going to be the student. gerry: were sometimes in the media accused of the picking extreme examples in these cases come up that seem extreme and

portray students in universities and about but this unfortunately is pretty standard practice it seems. >> i wish is was an extreme example, it's not. i had a child at a prestigious university at this country right now in the stories i hear what goes on in the classroom, it is shocking in i never heard anything like this. an idea to make about fantasy

and presented she will teach the students, good lord. gerry: absolutely. it is wacko, but is becoming a part of the curriculum, the police department in this country that wasn't even found it until after the civil war and the idea that that was a role is completely absurd. >> half the country didn't have slaves. gerry: exactly. let me ask you something, the irony, the bigger irony of this whole story, braden ellis was giving a presentation about how to cancel culture is touring the country apart and he couldn't have a better real-time demonstration of his case, could he. >> it was a perfect example but i don't think she was in on the joke. and of course, the teacher took over the entire ten minute. tuber rate him and never let any other student get in, is there any more perfect time when you're a student in college,

let's say braden had a wrong idea, he didn't but that's when you're supposed to have wrong ideas and you have a discussion with your class and work it out. it's a wonderful way of learning, no other student could get a word in because this moron was so busy berating him and not to mention bullying him, as i look at that that's bullying and braden did a marvelous job of remaining calm, talking to her, addressing her idiot questions and talking to her like she was a rational intelligent human being which clearly she is not. gerry: she's clearly become the most famous assistant professor in the country and probably not to her advantage. thank you very much for joining us. gerry: still ahead after months of a record-breaking surge of migrants at the southern border, president biden claims the crisis of the border is under control. former acting ice director tom homan is here next.

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gerry: after several months of record increases in the migrants seeking to enter the united states president biden says the situation is under control and once again he blames president trump for the migrant surge. watch this. >> it is way down now, we've gotten control, for example they didn't plan for, which it comes every year this flow whether it's 22000, they did not have the beds that were available, they did not plan for the overflow, they did not plan for the department health and human services to take the kids home from the border patrol and put them in beds where their security and people that could take care of them. there is a significant change right now, significant change in the circumstance for children coming to and at the border. gerry: let's bring in former acting director of ice tom homan.

now we know the problem was all president trump's administration for not providing enough beds, that's only crisis at the border? >> first of all either he doesn't know what's going on or he's just lying because nothing is under control now border, the department of homeland security has no control of the border, the criminal cartel in mexico control our southern border and that's because president biden gave it to them, i wish they would let me interview him, the statement that he made. child migration, children come across the border is 70% under donald trump, i mean under joe biden, it wasn't president trump the dismantled everything, he didn't need a he enforced the loss we had a right to be a

sovereign country he believed border patrol has the right to enforce the laws. gerry: biden kamala harris seem to think to spend a lot of money in guatemala and honduras and el salvador to somehow help them with their security and make sure the potential migrants don't leave their country, what you make of that. >> been there done that, i've done it we've done it three or four times, it doesn't work. when he makes promises, i'm not gonna let ice rescue, with no enforcement, you're not going to be detained, you maybe get free healthcare, you won't get amnesty in daca, when you make those promises, i don't care what you do in central america, the get a try to come to the greatest nation on earth and is because of the promises he made, sending more money to central american countries make no sense, like mexico, last year

mexico received over $40 billion, billion with a b, $40 billion remittance from illegal aliens sending the money back to see the. gerry: it is the by design, this is open borders, they will not stop the surge, they will release people quickly so when the media shows up the oc nothing to see here, no overcrowding, they don't want to stop it. gerry: thank you very much, we look forward to seeing you again. coming up tonight at 9:00 o'clock on wall street journal at large, the new study that could change your mind about lockdowns, tonight my interview with the author casey

mulligan who is a professor at the university of chicago who served in the trump white house as former chief economist. take a look at this. >> the stay-at-home orders did damage to the economy and they made the pandemic worse and last longer, can you explain. >> just from the health perspective, they told us to stay at home but nobody checked to see it being healthier at home, because they were doing things and requiring masks, changing the ventilation, putting up physical barriers, screening people when they come in, these are things that people don't normally do at home. it ends up being out of work, a better place to get the infection and being in work. gerry: the full interview with casey mulligan in a discussion about president biden's first 100 days, please join me at 9:0e wall street journal at large on fox business.

i am gerry baker in for elizabeth macdonald, human watching "the evening edit", that does it for us this evening for this week, thank you for watching, have a good evening and a lovely weekend. ♪ ♪ ♪. larry: hello everyone and welcome back to "kudlow", i am larry kudlow, great to be with you. here's a question a lot of people are asking these days, if the economy is booming, why do we need all the new government spending plans and president biden's first 100 days, the democrats got a 51 vote reconciliation victory for