national average could be 3.50. reporter: he warned us, gerry. back to you. gerry: time for me to hit the road with or without gas. that does it for "fox business tonight." "the evening edit" starts right now. elizabeth: tonight america reopening on its own. the country is powering back and now this, a big nationwide conversation. also turning into a fight. who got it right? who got it desperately wrong? it is the fight about common sense and that fight and that conversation now begins. joining us tonight, former governor mike huckabee, congressman greg stuebe, frustrated virginia parent brandon mesh chon. senator ron johnson, tom homan, fox news contributor deneen borelli and arizona attorney general mark burnvioch.

new york, connecticut, letting businesses fully reopen. florida fully ends restrictions tonight. 100 million now vaccinated. this new debate, democrats want president biden to go it alone without republicans, ram through, tax, spend away all covid risk with a big government blitz. they don't have a mandate in congress. we're looking into the skunk works of all the spending. it ain't pretty. we have new warning signs, inflation on the rise. is it going to hit crazy jimmy carter levels? that is the debate. it is getting ugly out there. new text messages show school board officials say they are quote at war with parents who want schools to reopen? war? when children are involved? really? we've got more on top democrat advisor james carville saying quote, stop the idiotic wokism. people are tired of being woke. they just came out of a pandemic. more woke top democrats break

their own standards for everyone else on shutdowns and climate change. also tonight major news organizations how did they get it so wrong. they retracted erroneous stories about rudy giuliani and russian disinformation. they were anonymously sourced stories. the biden administration is using exact same gameplan to go after giuliani the obama team used to go after trump and his team. the profound irony in all of this about hunter biden. new developments on the human smuggling tragedy. it is an operation that went desperately wrong off of san diego. more detail how big the lucrative business of human trafficking really is. we have a top democrat now saying vice president kamala harris you're in charge of the border. you have got to go to the border. you haven't been there yet. yes it is a crisis. plus newly revealed government documents emails. we've got them. delivering disturbing revelation. biden officials knew exactly how

dangerous biden's border policies are but they went ahead anyway. thanks for joining us, i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's start with, look who is here, arkansas governor mike huckabee. okay, governor. we love having you on. we have got the country now on the move. i guess may may be the month america officially three opens. more than three dozen states are reopening. did you see what happened at the kentucky derby, sir. fans came pouring in. what did you think about that? >> i think it is great. fans are able to come out from under the tables, beds, chairs and live again. that is the whole point of having a vaccine. joe biden still wearing a mask outside and on a zoom call but most of us recognize the point of the vaccine is to open up our

economy. and we're learning from the figures that the truth is that the state has have opened up, they have no more virus cases. in many situations far less virus cases than the ones still in lock down. so clearly it is time to start living again. i hear people, liz, say, gosh, more people ought to take the vaccine? well probably they would if they thought they were going to be consequences that they could live but if they're told they will still have to have a hot dog with two people in their backyard and stay eight feet apart from each other, they will just say, why bother? let me just say this, we keep hear about follow the science. i think people on the left are following the science. the political science but not the real science. elizabeth: that's interesting because you know we do have 16 states still having problems with covid but you're saying this is a story about common sense what works, what doesn't. a year ago, you and i talked

about this, 310 million americans faced some sort of a shutdown but now even disneyland reopening about 300 days after disney world. did you see this, governor? even in wuhan, china, where the virus is believed to have come from, thousands attended a wuhan music festival. they're doing it in china? >> that ought to say a lot, shouldn't it? of course we're going to be careful. i'm careful so i don't get the regular flu or pneumonia or the common cold. i'm not stupid but i'm not going to live the rest of my life wearing a hood over my head because i'm scared to death to take a breath because somebody next to me might have the common cold. taking the vaccine. i'm done it. now i'm going to live. i think it is time america starts recognizing that we live in a land of liberty, not a land of oppression and i really think the great revelation of all of this is that the states were the tightest lockdowns are the ones that are having the hardest time

coming out of those high covid numbers. elizabeth: yeah. we hear you. we understand, everybody knows it is really dangerous. this virus is more fatal than the flu. you know, but now we see the debate is, should we really have shut down a little mom-and-pop fruit stands or the dry cleaner? would that have really stopped covid-19. 1.4% of cases here in bars and restaurants in other states? the mayor of washington, d.c., muriel bowser banning dancing at outdoor weddings. brooklyn, massachusetts says you have to wear masks outdoor. they are overruling the cdc guidance you don't need masks outdoors unless you're in gatherings? what is going on here? why do they still have emergency powers if they're overruling the cdc? >> large use of emergency powers is clearly unconstitution small.

an emergency doesn't last forever. the reason mayor bowser she is banning dancing, we found out she must be an old time baptist. this is her way of keeping the baptists ever moving their feet. god knows it might be terrible if they started dancing, who knows what might break out. it is that kind of stuff, liz, honestly embarrassing to hear people say go to the wedding but you can't dance with anybody. you can have a birthday party, but don't eat the same piece of cake or eat a piece of cake from the same cake somebody else had. this is what's nuts. you know, we're told don't go to the beach. the beach is safest place there is out in the sunshine. covid can't live in the sunshine and it doesn't do well transmitting outdoors. so why don't we tell people, get outdoors? if you're going to run and take a cross-country run, for heaven's sake take off your mask the oxygen deprivation of wearing a mask while you're run something a whole lot more

dangerous than maybe passing by somebody at 12 miles an hour and somehow, miraculously getting covid from them. elizabeth: all right. we'll check if the d.c. mayor has a religious reason for not dancing but we love the detail that you bring. we're going to fact check that, governor, you're great. good to see you. want to know who did you bet on, midnight bourbon? who did you bet on the kentucky derby? i'm not a horse guy, exempt for this. i was so excited see a horse everyone given him up on they sold him for 1000 bucks he ends up winning the kentucky derby. that is america's story. we come back even over again. i love that. elizabeth: well i won 10 bucks on that bet. governor mike huckabee. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: good to see you. sure. my little 10 bucks. let's bring in florida congressman greg stuebe.

good to have you on. contract dc says if you're vaccinated you don't need to wear a mask outside. critics saying president biden will do his patriotic duty to wear a mask outside still even though he got vaccinated? is that a sending a wrong message about vaccines when we need to get to herd immunity and get back to normal? >> that is the wrong guidance. cdc said you can be outdoors with a small group of people if vaccinated or baseball game outdoors or athletic event outdoors. it doesn't make any sense. what you guys were talking about, in d.c. you can go to a wedding but you can't dance. the american people are over all these mask mandates and guidance coming from our own government that doesn't make any reasonable amount of sense and there is no factual basis, scientific basis to show that the lockdowns work. florida is example a of that evidence. look at the deaths in new york, they have had 20,000 more covid

deaths than we've had. california had 30,000 deaths more than we have. we've been open since school. our school has been in school. no mask mandates statewide in the state of florida. our businesses are open, if mask mandates and lockdowns work, you would see the completely opposite number here in florida. our numbers for covid would be skyrocketing versus numbers from california and new york and that is not what is occurring right now. elizabeth: okay. biden, by the way, president biden said as barack obama's running mate, it was quote, patriotic to pay higher taxes. setting that aside for a second, shut down, getting ahold of what is going on with the virus or reopen? do you target the vulnerable, meaning senior citizens and other people who have, you know, preexisting conditions, making themselves prone? because you know, now that the thing is, a whole lot of americans don't want to take vaccines. we see the president wearing a mask outside. that could threaten the overriding goal of getting america vaccinated. what do you say?

>> yeah. completely undermining their argument like rand paul and others have said. there should be some type of reward if you're going to get vaccinated you shouldn't have to wear a mask. the cdc should update guidance based on the fact that you have been vaccinated. to these taxes, why in the world will we institute the highest tax in the developed world, in the developed world on american citizens, american businesses at a time where most of these businesses are coming out of being locked down, coming out of covid-19? and in florida they find employees and staffing to staff their is business the right now. why in the world would we lob taxes on businesses trying to grind out, get out of being locked down because of covid the last year? elizabeth: biden and the democrats want to tax-and-spend away. they want to wipe out covid risk with taxing and spending. critics are saying they don't want to grow the economy. they want to grow the government and grow the irs.

watch former new jersey governor chris christie on this. listen to this. >> get ready, everybody, for a new weaponized, aggressive, in your face in every aspect of your life internal revenue service. boy, that is really bringing people together. that is really uniting force for the american people because everyone loves the irs. have them in every aspect of your life to see if they can squeeze another nickel out of your pocket for joe biden to spend. i'm sorry that is not what this country is all about. so when you look at exactly what is going on here, what is going on is that job jobe ran as a moderate uniter and he is now governing as a bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, way out socialist liberal. i'm willing to let that take some time for the american people to have it sink in. elizabeth: you know, so, we risk now high inflation with all the government spending and money printing. they're is still a lot of slush

funds, pork projects in the $6 trillion spending plans biden wants. what do you say, sir? >> only 6% of the 1.9 trillion actually went to covid relief in the last bill. the 2.3 trillion they want to spend on infrastructure only 4% of that would go to roads and bridges. only 2% to ports and waterway projects. everything else to different social programs, green new deal light, to all the different programs they want to put in place. in that bill is $400 billion for what governor christie is alluding to, to give $4 billion for the irs to investigate people skirting their taxes. it is crazy what is in these bills and not focused on rebuilding america in the way that we need to rebuild america by opening up the country up, letting the free market rein and not taxing our companies into oblivion. elizabeth: got it. congressman stuebe good to see you. he stood up for parents that are

outraged that schools are not opening. text messages saying they are quote at war with parents who want to reopen schools. we're talking children. you're talking war, really? that story next. >> you think you're some sort of martyrs because of the decisions you're making when the statistics do not lie that the vast majority of the population is not at risk from this virus. the garbage workers who pick up my freakin' trash risked their lives every day, more than anyone in this school system! figure it out! or get of at podium, you know what? people like me and a lot of other people out there who will gladly take your seat and figure it out! it is not a high bar. raise the frikin' bar.

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elizabeth: that was brandon michon before the commercial break. good to see you, brandon. thanks for joining us again. we're hearing about new developments in your school district in virginia.

text messages between members of the lowden county school board being at war with parents that want to reopen schools. what is going on here? >> look, someone went out and used the freedom of information act, asked for information on certain school board members. we got text messages back between them, saying they're at war with parents who are trying to open up schools. and to me, you should never be at war with your constituents. these are the people that you are asking to vote for you. you should be their voice and representation, not trying to tear them down. elizabeth: you're talking about being at war over something involving children? i mean these are elected officials that get paid by taxpayers. now we've got news that the biden administration is talking about, they're not committing whether to reopening schools in september. now they're talking about pfizer vaccinating 12-year-olds. what do you say to that? that is breaking news coming in. >> i hadn't heard yet.

i'm not overly surprised from the administration here. i don't expect anything to happen not already on their agenda. for them i think, this is not as much of a national issue as it is a state issue. what we really need is state and local officials to step up to be leaders. the federal side, they can pander and say everything they want but state and local officials are the ones that we need leadership from. look, biden is not the one making your tax bill change or setting the school district zoning. it is the state and local. elizabeth: yeah. we hear you. also this debate about children, whether they need to be vaccinated. you know science, certain scientists are saying yeah, children are vectors but that is going to be a new fight involving parents and their kids. so we'll stay on that one. we also have basically what is coming up is, james carville, he is talking about saying, listen, democrats, stop trying to trap the economy and america in a

teachers faculty lounge. that is something we've been talking aabout for about 10 years. that is what the democrats are doing. he is saying stop with the wokism. he is calling it idiotic. we want to get your reaction what james carville is saying. take a listen. we'll talk to you after this. watch. >> most of the people that are enthused by this kind of dialogue live in boston, manhattan or washington. by the way we have to carry d.c., new york and massachusetts. we'll not win an election in a faculty lounge. that is just, that is just idiotic. i people say they're woke and tired of being woke. after this pandemic and stuff, people want to go about their lives, want to go to enjoy their friends. don't want to be nervous how you address them, talk to them or anything. that is just where people are. people have gotten fired over this. so happens i'm at a point where

there is nothing to cancel me from. i don't care. do what you want to do. elizabeth: what do you say, brandon? >> look, i think we shouldn't be afraid to speak our opinions. i think it is not good example to our children if adults are afraid to speak up to say that they differ in an opinion from someone else. our state and local officials need to put the education system back on the right track and encourage diversity of opinion and encourage the diverse thought and with that, i think you can't be afraid of being canceled or even bullied for having a differing opinion than others. >> you know, we see that too. when we talk about reopening schools and reopening the economy, we see vested interests like the teachers union basically dictating to the the n administration word for word on how to reopen. that is the american federation of teachers language. and you know, you see that time and again. from the teachers union about

this. your final word on that and wokism. >> final word is, that the teachers unions are there to represent the teachers. the union for the students is the parents and caregivers. we're the only ones that can be their voice when they don't have one. it is our job as parents, as husbands, fathers, as you know, caregivers to speak up and represent our kids and try to put them on the right track. it is not about the unions, it is about the parents of being vocal. elizabeth: great to see you brandon michon, thank you very much. >> thank you. elizabeth: we'll talk to you next time about this and wokism. good to have you on. next up senator ron johnson and "the new york times" and "washington post" and nbc, backtracking on stories that rudy giuliani was target of a russian disinformation campaign.

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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome wisconsin republican senator ron johnson. senator, love having you on.

okay we would love to hear your reaction when you saw nbc, "the washington post," "the new york times," doing major retractions of erroneous stories claiming fbi awarded rudy giuliani and one america they were targets after russian misinformation campaign to damage joe biden. they said they confirmed this with multiple anonymous sources. what is happening here? >> i don't know exactly, what exactly mayor giuliani i have not heard you were from the fbi. i tell you what i heard. i didn't need any defense briefings. chairman of the senate subcommittee, i held hearings on russian disinformation when i became chairman in 2013, 2014. i am well aware of what russia does. we requested defensive briefings on an draw teleshenko. they said repeatedly we had no

derogatory information. we were only speaking to him based on his employment with a democrat lobbying firm in washington, d.c. and his involvement with the obama white house and obama state department. when i listened to the briefings, i felt it was a complete setup. i had setups in the past. where i was leaked about russian disinformation be careful about information out of ukraine. my reaction was duh. i understand how you take everything you hear from the region with a grain of salt. i always felt that august 6th, 2020 briefing was a political set-up. this he basically sprung the trap. they did exactly what i thought they would do, use the briefing to say senator johnson was warned about russian disinformation and he proceeded anyway. i would ask anybody who takes a look at our report where is there any russian disinformation? is it russian disinformation

that hunter biden entered into a sleazy relationship with burisma and paid $4 million for what? what expertise did he have? there is no russian disinformation about that. that was wrong. george kent admitted it was awkward for the state department he entered into that conflict of interest. there is nothing about russian misinformation there at all. those are the plain facts. >> wet hear you. let's break this down. we saw anonymous stories during trump, the trump-russia collusion push that, went after trump and his team. we see the same kind of thing going on here. rudy giuliani gets a hunter biden laptop and has photos on it, emails on it, allegedly connected to hunter biden. kind of, i would have to say not stuff for, that is g-rated much of it. then you have the fbi under biden doing the same thing that

the fbi under obama did, going after rudy giuliani based on foreign agents registration act violations. that is what they went after peter strzok and james comey went after general michael flynn on that. according to your report on hunter biden's overseas business dealings, he used shell companies reportedly to avoid having to register under fara to avoid violations of fara, burying overseas dealings and korb flow with overseas companies. do you see irony there? >> exactly. there is unequal administration of justice in the united states nowadays. that is sad to see. i go back to the text we highlighted with peter strzok, lisa page, on december, in 2016, strzok texted page, our sisters are leaking like mad. political. they're kicking into overdrive. what is he talking about there? talking about the leaks to the news media about russian

collusion with trump campaign which was completely false. mainstream media has never outed the sources that provided them with this false information. they're doing the exact same thing now in 2021. it is shameful. it is proving that the mainstream media is completely biased, they're part and parcel of the democratic party and i hope america is waking up to this reality. elizabeth: the question is, why didn't the u.s. attorney just issue a subpoena on rudy giuliani? why do they have to send more than half a dozen fbi agents to bash down the door? senator ron johnson we'll talk more about this. you say they clearly tried to target you, warn you are a target of russian disinformation in order to leak about that later on to discredit you and your and chuck grassley's investigation into hunter biden and biden corruption, the family's corruption and their business dealings overseas. those are the allegations s that it? final word. >> completely useless briefing and only done to set me up and

they basically doing that right now. it is sick. i would also ask you, what was the s.w.a.t. team arrest of roger stone? this is part and parcel of the exact same possess. this is thoroughly corrupt. it's a deep state. americans should be concerned about it. elizabeth: senator ron johnson, good to see you. thanks for joining us. next up, tom homan with more on that human smuggling operation that went so deadly and so wrong off of san diego. we're going to talk about the big business of human trafficking. we've got a top democrat also now saying yeah, there is a crisis at the border. vice president kamala harris. you have got to go there. biden put you in charge of it. haven't shown up at the border. more next. >> we put out more resources in the water to interdict. we sent a message to smugglers, the sea, ocean is inherently

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♪. elizabeth: okay. four now dead, more than two dozen hospitalized after a boat believed part of a human smuggling ring carrying illegal aliens capsized off of san diego yesterday. you are going to see video that shows the heartbreaking aftermath of this. a captain reportedly in custody. he is reportedly part of this smuggling ring. bring in former i.c.e. deputy director tom homan. tom, you've been warning about this. we've been talking about the border for four years. you and i have been talking about this for four years. "the evening edit" has been covering the border for four years when no one else was. we were first out of the box to break a lot of stories with you.

you say don't do this illegally, it is deadly, it will go wrong. this is an example of that, right, tom? >> absolutely. sadly this will keep happening. when president biden won the election the criminal cartels celebrated because they knew they were back in business. president trump pretty much put them out of business. knowing he made all these promises to the world enter illegally, won't be detained, won't be deported, moratorium on deportation, amnesty plan, when you say things like that vulnerable people will come to the united states and put themselves in hands of criminal cartels. i investigated many criminal cartels that smuggled people. i put a lot in prison. my only regret i didn't put more in prison. they are cruel people. torture aliens. i had cases they call the relatives demanding money. when they are not paying they torture the person on the phone in front of relatives being tortured. they are ruthless people. this is another example of profit over humanity. they will do anything they can to make the money. the health and safety of those

being smuggled are no concern to them. elizabeth: tom, we want to thank you for talking to us for years about this and explaining it, breaking it down. it is to your credit, other i.c.e. officials and border officials explaining this. rand corporation says human smuggling is up to $2.3 billion operation. all those different multicolored wristbands you see littering the border? that is drug and human trafficking cartels can track illegal aliens crossing to make sure they get paid. now we've got democrat senator macy hirono saying vice president kamala harris you have to go to the border. biden put you in charge of this. senator hirono saying it's a crisis. we're seeing a change of heart here on the part of democrats? >> i don't think so. this administration is clearly shows it doesn't want to fix it. like the president and the secretary out this weekend bragging that they got the numbers down 80% at the border patrol stations. let me, i said this on the show

many times, their goal is to get really good at releasing people. go to border patrol facility, not overcrowded, nothing to see here, no crisis. they're ignoring what is happening on the border. releasing people quickly does not solve the problem. drugs are coming in here in massive amounts. cartels are getting rich. people are dying. women are getting sexually assaulted. they are ignoring the problem. they have want open borders policy. they're using smoke and mirrors to fool the american people. they will not fool me. i worked for six administrations. hard to say. this is the first administration i worked for, i worked under ronald reagan, actively lying, lying to the american people what is going on the border. i've been down there four times in the last two months. i talked to border patrol agents who lost complete confidence in the commander-in-chief. lost complete confidence in the secretary. they're failing to tell the american people the truth what they're dealing with 24/7. it's a blatant lie what is happening own the border. i never seen an administration

do this. when videos are out there, everybody sees video, people dropped, videos of border patrol pulling, drowning victims out of the river and drugs are coming across, cartels making money three ways, liz. smuggling women and children to be turned over to the border patrol. two, they're smuggling like maritime smuggling people don't want to get caught. two years they can qualify for the amnesty promise president biden gave them. this will be gang members and drug dealers coming across. whether the families are tied up with the border patrol that is when they get other people through. third is the drugs. when there is a humanitarian crisis like this and half the border patrol is none longer on the line, coke, black tar come across, heroin. in 19602000 people died of overdoses with heroin and get that till. 40%, 40% of border patrol agents are no longer on the line. elizabeth: tom homan, great

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there were no events that were taking place because there was a lockdown? look, there are questions about tens of thousands of dollars that were spent on traveling in new york. car leasing payments. car insurance. gasoline. satellite radio service. car repairs. rental cars, where was he going during a lockdown? the constituents need to know and yes, again, this is another example of two sets of books, two sets of rules because why was he doing all of this traveling when there was a lockdown in place? elizabeth: yeah. you know, you and i talked about this, deneen. you know, democrats breaking their own lockdown rules. gavin newsom, lori lightfoot, nancy pelosi, a judge in texas fined for violating his own stay at home order. l.a. county supervisor sheila kuehl eating outdoors hours after she voted to ban outdoor dining saying it is dangerous to do that.

gretchen whitmer, governor of michigan goes to florida to see her father. two of her aides go to spring break in florida. this, john kerry, biden's climate envoy, reports are coming in he made millions of dollars off of his stock in oil and gas companies and also finance companies up to, possibly a million dollars in of stock in holdings he made in oil and gas and the nuclear industry. he is the one also accused of flying around in his own family's private jet, that is adding a lot of green house gas emissions to the atmosphere. what is your take on john kerry making big bucks off of energy companies? >> sure we weren't supposed to find that out, liz. look, john kerry is someone who does not want to be questioned. he defended himself flying overseas to get some dopey climate award.

because of his position he felt he was entitled to do so. i'm glad politicians are getting called out what they're doing. their actions are double standards. hashtag hypocrisy. they need to be called out because they are doing one thing, when they are expecting americans to play by whatever the rules are in place, to obey the law when in fact these folks are drunk with power, think they can do whatever they want, not be questioned for challenged. elizabeth: he is saying stop polluting the atmosphere flying on planes but flight records show that his family flew their private jet to vacation homes in, for example, in martha's vineyard and another vacation home in another state too. so do they not see that this information is going to get out there? your final word, deneen? >> they don't care, liz. they don't care. they think they're entitled and americans are supposed to listen and shut shut up and not challe. elizabeth: got it.

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let's welcome back to evening edit, the attorney general of arizona. burbage, sir thank you for joining us, we are hearing that you guys got 5000 pages of government e-mails and documents that joe biden administration officials knew that biden's order stopping ice from criminal illegal aliens would end up with recent into the interior but the policies they did it anyway can you break this down for us. liz a lot of the documents were redacted. but clearly the pages that we reviewed thus far, should that the biden administration senior officials with nice new the result of the biden policies leading to a 50 percent reduction in those people being

processed. so they literally knew what they were going to do is stop you from being arrested and being reported as well as account up from state documents and other documents that ice is not picking up people that have been convicted of crimes. so for example when someone is getting into the state prisons, murder kidnapping, they're not picking them up . so those people are just being released into our interiors so this is a huge problem, and and 74 is not just about immigration, the national security of public safety issue is literally being released into our communities. liz: how many are we talking about for unit. >> we don't know but what we do know is a result of a biden policy, and the e-mails we are trying to get to the bottom of this of the litigation but we do know that a record amount of people in this country that are coming in the dices not arresting them are processing them and we know that 1.2 million people right now have deportation orders that ice is dragging their feet on some

literally, this is a problem affecting not only arizona but affecting the entire country and we actually are getting more discovery and more of this ongoing some going to find out more information about dirk but the biden administration is trying to hide. liz: so this really is a biden administration man-made crisis. and you said this is bone chilling we are talking about thousands already arrested for murder, sexual assault, drug dealing and potentially oh and kidnapping that they can possibly go free because of the new biden administration policy enacted in february that said basically you can only detain and import it people are ready convicted essentially. and had that is the thrust of the new policy right go ahead. mark: yes and just remember though, the documents make it clear that this is not a resource issue that clearly this is being done by the biden administration for whatever reason but do understand there's

a consequence to their actions. and it does involve some people convicted of crimes. and we know that we have even short-term custody's, the call ice to come pick them up and process them in the refusing to do so. so they just released out into our community. we need people being convicted of crimes. literally they're getting out of prison and they're not being picked up and processed. as long as these people that have been charge of these crimes so we are news now seeing the tip of the iceberg on this and remember, we talked about the cartels there exporting this car crisis there's been an increase in fentanyl and by 230 percent and coming across the border last month. this is having an impact in so many ways and of course we know about the millions of dollars in the contract to house people that cross the border illegally we know that about 2 million people across just this year. so this is having a devastating impact. not only in arizona but every single person in this country and if you pay your taxes, you

are subsidizing the biden administration. and the worst part about it is that they'd know about it and they don't care. liz: i just want to back up, biden organizes to stop arresting the illegally in aliens lofgren terrorists, known gang members or have been recently convicted of inactivated a felony within a tenure. and we have heard this is stopping at nine and ten deportation spray to say you saying, they are releasing convicted already convicted felons. your sink that is happening as well. mark: what we know from the documents that we have seen as a result of the biden administration's classifications, there are literally people that have convicted of serious crimes that are not being processed for deportation. we know from our talking to our state prison officials that there are people that have been convicted of crimes that ice is

refusing to pick up. we know that from talking to the sheriff's offices and other correction facilities management they are not picking up people who are convicted. liz: we gotta go. thank you mark brnovich. thank you for joining us. elisabeth mcdonald rated thank you for watching. join us again tomorrow night. hi everybody. i'm david in for larry kudlow today printed welcome to kudlow. president biden is back in dc this hour after spending the day in virginia selling his multitrillion dollar spending plans and this is the first of two trips that biden is making to sell americans on the vast expansion of the welfare state. central government planning and huge increases in taxes we start with blake at the white house blake. >> either your member the president biden and bill the market family plan at the joint address before congress on last wednesday. and then travel to georgia and thursday and fizzling on