♪. dagen: one bride to be putting her foot down. d.c. resident margaret apple by is filing a lawsuit against mayor bowser for her latest covid restrictions including a dancing ban at wedding, arguing it violates her first amendment rights. hoping that the ban is lifted by next thursday. that does it for us on "fox business tonight." see you tomorrow. ♪. elizabeth: tonight while the focus is on republicans ousting liz cheney as gop conference chair, d.c. and the white house hit with multiple crises. we have inflation, gas lines, look at this, the colonial pipeline moving to be open and up and running. it is reopening. it will take a few days to straighten that out. also this is still happening. tensions with iran in the strait of hormuz. israel on the brink of war. the border crisis too. we have stocks in a broad selloff as consumer prices rose the fastest in 13 years.

joining us tonight, republican congressman byron donalds, macro trend advisors mitch roschelle, congresswoman lauren boebert and congressman james comer and michael burgess. deneen borelli and former acting dhs secretary chad wolf. bipartisan meeting with the president on infrastructure today. spending on that. house minority leader kevin mccarthy called it quote, productive, then reportedly sent out a text saying quote, corrupt joe biden. we have that. climate envoy john kerry threw a wrench into the green agenda. this is the john kerry we've never seen before, testing that pipelines are more quote, carbon efficient than trains or trucks. this after killing the keystone pipeline and putting pressure to stop the dakota pipeline. also getting real about china. so is kerry finally coming clean after congress demands answers what exactly kerry is doing and how exactly he is spending

taxpayer money as the climate envoy? also tonight, energy secretary jennifer granholm reportedly making a major move over her green investments of a conflicts of interest accusations. more on granholm also now saying pipelines are a good thing. we have more details on science writer nicholas wade who wrote for "the new york times." he says there is a major loophole in a u.s. band that let u.s. taxpayer money fund china's dangerous frankenstein research on highly infectious super viruses. we have got the debate. senator rand paul today going again after dr. fauci, saying dr. fauci misled congress. dr. fauci heatedly denies all of that. this is the face of the pandemic response under fire. is it time to come clean, open all the books? what exactly did the u.s. pay for with china's super virus research. what did dr. fauci know about that? did that virus work accidentally

leak out and kill millions around the globe? illegally border crossings 20-year high. you won't believe the number of got-aways illegal immigrants say crossed the border. you got a number? think higher. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. start with florida congressman byron donalds back with us. colonial pipeline is moving to be back up and running. news is coming in. it will take a few days to straighten that out. what is your reaction to this story? first of all i'm glad they were able to get the pipeline up and running. what we're clearly seeing, liz, energy is not only essential to our economy but our life, every day lives. gas lines from florida up the

eastern seaboard proof positive how essential this pipeline is and other pipelines frankly including the keystone the president shut down at the beginning of his administration. i hope this is a clear sign to everybody on capitol hill we need to embrace our energy infrastructure. we cannot walk away from it t damages human lives here in america. we should never allow something like that to happen. elizabeth: congressman, stocks took a tumble. the s&p and nasdaq finishing down sharply on inflation concerns. let's go through the multiple crises. inflation is at 13-year high. the focus is on liz cheney. elise stefanik likely installed as gop conference chair. gas hitting seven year highs. four states, north carolina, georgia, virginia, in state of emergency. eight states seeing gas outages. that pipeline is coming back on. we have iran fast boats harassing navy vessels in the straight of hormuz. we have israel on the brink of war. your take on all of this? >> my take is we have bad

policies coming out of the white house. the right kind of policies would not allow these things to happen. let's take inflation for a moment. we all know the economy was ready to rebound coming out of the pandemic, vaccination rates were going up, going up rapidly. what did the administration do? they wanted to spend 2 trillion-dollars on projects we don't need and nobody wants. what do we have now? we have people not going to work and it is causing prices to rise because of the policies implemented by this administration. look at immigration. on day one president biden got rid of president trump's immigration enforcement orders. what did we see? the cartels sprang into action sending undocumented minors across our southern border with impunity making millions of dollars every day to boot. that is just two of the issues where this administration failed the american people. that is why we're seeing all these disasters. we have not even gotten to

foreign policy. elizabeth: we'll talk about that. go ahead on israel your take quick. >> on israel, number one we need to stand by the israelis at all time. they are right in this situation. the land is the land of israel hi property owners, they want to get paid for land being leased from them. we should stand strong against hamas and strong against their violence. elizabeth: let's move on to this. the senate panel deadlocked on a democrat bill to have the federal government control the votes in states. president had a bipartisan meeting on infrastructure spending. he quote, snapped my fingers, and the money is going to come. mitch mcconnell saying don't touch, you can't touch the 2017 tax cuts. that is the line in the sand there. so what's the dollar amount we're going to see on infrastructure spending? because the federal reserve is basically underwriting massive government spending right now. that is hitting the value of the u.s. dollar? >> listen right now, especially with the inflation report that

came out this morning the last thing this place needs to talk about is infrastructure. don't get me wrong, there are infrastructure needs in the united states. but what we have done through reckless fiscal policy over the last several months we have made our dollars be far more expensive for the average american. if you pass a infrastructure bill, where will you get materials from? you talk to homebuilders, they can barely get enough wood. elizabeth: all right, congressman byron donalds, good to have you on. come back soon, okay. >> definitely. good to be with you. elizabeth: let's bring in macro trend advisors founding partner mitch roschelle. your reaction to the colonial pipeline up and running? looks like it will come back online. how will that hit the markets tomorrow? >> i think it is good news. listen, consumers are dealing inflation right now. the last thing they needed to deal with is standing in line, waiting in line for gasoline. gasoline has become the toilet paper of this year. i think it is good news for consumers. the fact of the matter, if you look at inflation numbers today,

the inflation number was 4.2%. take out food and energy it is 3%. energy costs are already a big component of driving prices up for consumers. so the good news at least we won't see price inflation as a result of the pipeline but there are enough forces in the economy driving forces up. elizabeth: mitch, inflation at the highest in 13 years at 4.2% as you just said. is it really bad or just, does it just look bad because it compares to the connie in a downturn last year do you to shutdowns? >> i think there is a little of that. there are too anecdotal situations. the congressman mentioned materials prices. food prices are going up. i think the big thing no one is talking about, liz, why i don't think this is transitory, i think labor prices are going up right now because if you can't find workers because they're incentivized to not work because of the enhanced payments they're getting for unemployment you have to pay more than the

government is paying them. and once you start driving up wage costs i think you drive them up structurally, they stay up for a while. while the fed is shaking this off, saying it is transitory for the reason you mentioned, there are too many headwinds in terms of prices with all the money sloshing around the economy, chasing too few things, think we will have the problem for a while. elizabeth: eight million job openings but only 260,000 people got a job last month. in massachusetts, saying we have a labor shortage. people are happy to take a hand outs until labor day when they run out. even democrat senators are saying wait a second. we don't want to keep paying people not to work. senator joe manchin, senator maggie hassan of new hampshire making it easy for people to stay at home. schools not reopening, due to teachers unions, lack of child

care also to blame for people staying home. how does this end? >> well i'm fearful that we're waiting until september for it to end because i really don't think that small owners can handle sort of more headwinds not being able to find workers as part of it. we saw the national federation of independent businesses last month in april said that they had to increase prices at the highest amount they have done since 1981. so i really worry that if small businesses that are the backbone of our economy can't find workers, we certainly have a skills gap right now. that is one of the biggest problems people are having to retrain themselves, i do think this labor issue needs to get fixed quickly. elizabeth: got it. mitch roschelle, thanks for joining us, good to see you. >> same here, liz. elizabeth: still ahead, gop congresswoman lauren bob better will weigh in on energy secretary jennifer granholm making a major move over her

other green investments of a conflicts of interest accusations. also granholm saying pipelines are a good thing for delivering oil and gas after killing the keystone pipeline and putting pressure to shut down the dakota pipeline. this is about thousands of jobs being ruined here. the story next. >> it was utterly irresponsible to cancel the keystone xl pipeline. she has made that clear now by saying that the pipeline is the best way to go. we now find ourselves with fewer options than we should have. this is a perfect storm, a trifecta of sorts that stops the american people from gaining access to the things they need to live in their day-to-day lives. causing prices to spike and it's a deep concern hot dog or... chicken?

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these hackers wouldn't have dared attack america's energy infrastructure under president trump. weak leadership invites bad actors to see what they can get away with and everyday americans are paying the price literally at the pump. with biden's tone deaf, tone deaf energy secretary saying if we all had electric cars we wouldn't be in this situation, i mean, come on. it is absurd that the most powerful country on the planet has a gas shortage because one pipeline was hacked. we could sure have used a backup, say the keystone xl pipeline. too bad the biden regime, the america last policies and canceled the project, weakened america in the process. elizabeth: we've had ransomware attacks on u.s. assets including health care clinics and hospitals. it didn't just start under biden of the has been happening in the past. the issue too is, we've got the white house saying yes to trucks that deliver gas to stop the shortages in the states along

the gulf coast and east coast. so now they're saying yes to trucks. now energy secretary granholm says yeah, pipelines, are quote, the best way to deliver fuel after the biden administration killed keystone and pressuring to shut down the dakota access pipeline. your take on this? >> along with congressman chip roy i'm leading the charge to fight back on this. one of my first acts in congress to introduce the protect america energy jobs back, which would full fly biden's executive orders. biden took away your gasoline. pelosi is taking away your vote not allowing a vote on my bill. congressman roy and i are gathering signatures for a discharge petition to get a vote on the house floor. you deserve to know where your representative stands on supporting america's energy and america energy workers. elizabeth: okay. let's take a listen to jennifer granholm here. watch this.

>> so this particular area of the country, this is why we have doubled down on insuring that there is an ability to truck oil in, gas in but it's, it's, the pipe is the best way to go and so that's why, hopefully this company, colonial, will in fact be able to restore operations by the end of the week as they have said. elizabeth: okay. the pipe is the best way to go. >> absolutely. that's right. that is why we need my protecting american energy jocks act because it reverses the executive order canceling the keystone pipeline. we know pipeline works. we know they are effective and efficient. it is much more productive to transport through pipelines than it is to have trucks traveling across the united states, carrying oil or whatever they may have. so we certainly need these gas lines, these pipelines in place. this is something we've been ad

ad advocating from the beginning. i'm glad they're coming on board. elizabeth: we have reports that jennifer granholm is dealing with conflict of interests. she got a government waiver to divest millions of dollars in options of a hemant lakhani trick company that would benefit from government green energy money. the it is called protara. she will sell 240 shares on this company. she will get to defer capital gains on it. your take on that. what is happening with this conflict of interest accusation. >> the swamp takes care of itself. that is always going to be the place. the standard here in washington, d.c. so of course americans are hit with capital-gains tax. they can't even turn over their family farm to the next generation but she gets to defer this. this is interesting when you have the lobbiests in your back pocket what you can get away with, and how you can sell when

the market's right. elizabeth: all right. so, you know, you personally have had problems with your finances that you, you didn't, weren't paying payroll taxes on a restaurant. you were having difficulty in that, having $20,000 in liens. you straightened that out, is that true. >> it wasn't ever anything that we weren't paying taxes with. there was just a rate adjustment that needed to be taken care of. just like anything we contested until we couldn't contest anymore. of course that is taken care of. elizabeth: okay. did you, there is accusations that you also used campaign money to reimburse your personal expense. >> no that is not true. elizabeth: is that true? >> no, i was rewomen used for my vehicle that i drove. i have a district that is 2000 square miles. elizabeth: go ahead. finish your thought. go ahead. >> i was reimbursed for miles that i drove on my campaign.

i have a district that is 47% of the state of colorado. and that is how you win elections. elizabeth: got it,. >> you connect with the people. and that is exactly what i did. what i continue to do. i'm always out hearing from my people because i never want to just be influenced by this d.c. bubble. elizabeth: yeah, we hear you. we understand what you're saying. again this is a private company that was hacked by a russian criminal cartel. the russian government is disavowing any connection to this. so this issue of pipelines, congresswoman is coming up again. florida governor desantis said the biden administration was downplaying this issue because a company owns it. this is florida governor claiming this is just a private pipeline. he claims they shrugged their shoulders. that doesn't seem to be the case because the the biden administrn was moving to allow even trucks with overweight tonnage to transport fuel. so is this debate going to keep going on about, you know,

pipelines what do you think, where does it head? >> we need pipelines. we need america to be energy independent and energy dominant and we need the biden regime to quit ignoring crises taking place and affecting everyday americans. i'm really tired of the rhetoric that comes out of the democrat party for all of this woke agenda. when we have real issues to take care of. whether it is pipelines, whether it's a crisis at the border or what is happening in israel right now, we have congresswoman who are perhaps begannists for ham propogandists with hamas instead of standing with our nation's greatest ally. there are plenty of places in actual crisis wonder where is joe on this? where is our vice president at the southern border? she is supposed to be the border czar. i've been there more times than she has. elizabeth: all right, congressman boebert, thanks for joining us. good to see you. up next we've got more on climate envoy john kerry, making

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♪. elizabeth: joining us now kentucky republican james comer from house oversight. it is good to see you, congressman. okay, climate envoy john kerry testifies today. he said yes the pipeline is more carbon efficient than a train or a truck. he admitted yes, china is making a lot of money, solar panels made by slave labor in its prison camps. we haven't heard john kerry talk, testify like this before. what is going on? >> well for once he is being honest and i didn't like what i heard. i don't think most americans would either. the whole energy plan for joe biden's finally kicking in. we're seeing inflation at the gas pump. we're seeing shortages at the gas pump. now we're learning that much of

the solar panel, materials used for solar panels are made with slave labor in china. the fact they want to sign another climate agreement with china who uses slave labor, much less the fact that china is the world's largest polluter is troubling and i'm glad to hear john kerry admit that under oath. elizabeth: major human rights abuses watchdogs say. kerry is testifying first time he is flying commercial after criticism that he is flying a lot of jet that emit as lot of pollution. listen to john kerry talk about the world's worst polluter as you say commit human rights abuses in their labor camp. >> you're absolutely correct, ranking member mccaul. it's a problem. the province is producing panels

we believe by forced labor of uyghurs but also there is a significant amount of rare earth mineral used in the solar panels themselves. it is my understanding that the biden administration is right now in the process of assessing whether or not that will be the target of sanctions. >> isn't it true that pipelines are more carbon delivery efficient than trains, or trucks or other forms of delivery? if you could answer just that question? >> i think that is true, but it doesn't mean you necessarily want to be adding another line when there are other alternatives. but is it better than trains or not, yes it is. i could push to 12:30. i am flying commercial and have a flight that i have to make so i have to leave here by 12:30. elizabeth: okay. flying commercial. what was your, he is saying that the biden administration is doing sanctions on china over slave labor, is that true? what do you think?

>> i don't know that it is true. that is the first word i heard of it. they should do sanctions. but if we're looking to do sanctions with a company why in the world would we try to do a climate agreement with a country or any other type of agreement with china right now? china is hacking into a lot of our technology right now and now they're, we have proven they're using slave labor to produce this green new deal solar panels that democrats are obsessed with converting our energy policy into. i think it's a terrible precedent to do any major agreement with china when we know any agreement that joe biden is going to sign with china china will have the upper hand. i'm glad john kerry came today. i'm surprised i am saying that. he is truthful and we have problems with china. elizabeth: what is the oversight of john kerry's climate office? who is in that office? state department already has a ocean and environmental unit.

why do they need a climate czar separate office with dozens of people working there we don't really know what they're doing? did john kerry fly to china and get concession, give concessions in april, when he met with them over climate change? you know what i mean? the other thing he is pressuring u.s. oil and gas companies, u.s. banks not to lend to u.s. oil and gas companies after he made millions of dollars in stock in oil, gas and nuclear. you know what i mean? what is going on with his office there? who is doing the oversight? >> the oversight committee will try to find out who all works there, what their roles are. remember this was a new thing created by joe biden. we'll try to provide oversight with that but i can tell you there are not very many people in america that should trust john kerry when we send him to negotiate as an on so i because what we've learned recently the fact he was probably committing treason by telling iran secrets,

military strategy, at the same time iran was funding hamas which we now see hamas is waging war against israel. so john kerry has a lot of creditability issues but to make him the climate czar is very, very questionable, another bad move by joe biden. elizabeth: congressman, we don't mean to put you on the spot here. you've been terrific coming on the show. we're grateful for you to join us but the folks out there hear time and again people say we'll get to the bottom of it, we're going to get to the bottom of it, we're going to get to the bottom of it. what exactly can be done finding out what is going on with this climate change office and what pressure they're putting on the energy industry in terms of the biden administration and what concessions are they giving to china the world's worst polluter? more gses coming out of china than the world combined. >> i agree. we asked that information. this is a new office that has just been created.

the information is slow coming in. we'll stay own it. we'll try to message, make sure the american people know what is going on. unfortunately the democrats are in control right now or we would absolutely cut that budget to zero where it should be. elizabeth: hear you. we hear you congressman comer. thank you so much for joining us, sir. good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: congressman michael burgess. we have this hot debate. science writer nicholas wade who had written for "the new york times," he says there is a major loophole in a u.s. ban that does allow for u.s. taxpayer money to go to fund china's dangerous frankenstein research on highly infectious super viruses. time to come clean on all of this. what exactly did the u.s. pay, and what did dr. fauci know? the story next. >> gain of function research? >> dr. barrett does not gain of function research and if it is, it is according to the guidelines and it is being

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♪. elizabeth: joining us now texas congressman michael burgess. good to see you. you're also a doctor. dr. fauci denied that his niaid agency funded super virus research, frankenstein research in china. what do you say to this? >> well, it is a valid question, it needed to be asked, needed to be answered. when he was in our committee probably a meant ago i did pose that question. i was not given an answer that day. i was told, i will receive an

answer to the question in writing but as of this date i'm still, it is still pending but a valid question. has the nih been funding through equal health alliance in partnership with wuhan labs this gain of function research on the coronavirus? and it is a valid question, it needs to be asked. look, we need to understand, if indeed there was a problem, how it became a problem and we don't ever want to have it happen again for sure. it will help us with our understanding how to get through this episode. elizabeth: congressman, you know the thing is, three million people are dead, 600,000 dead in the u.s. from the coronavirus. nicholas wade, science writer for "new york times," that the u.s. banned using taxpayer money for gain of function research. but nicholas wade said there was a major loophole in nih grants letting u.s. money that will go towards research that would protect public health and national security. you could drive a mack truck

through that loophole. people talking 600,000 over five years came out of the niaid through echo health alliance through china, is small bore stuff. we don't know how much money went there. it is time to open the books, and are you going to say open the books of nihaid, dr. fauci and will congress do that? >> the transparency needs to be there. here is the other type of research being done on what is a very potent pathogen was there the proper security lab in this country, we have the cell four labs are intense security to make sure biological threats do not accidentally get out into the public and was that same type of care taken in the, in the lab in wuhan and do this day i don't know the answer to that question. elizabeth: why farm out this kind of frankenstein research to

a dangerous lab whose own top scientist said it was sloppy in substandard in safety, after the wuhan outbreak, a general from the peoples liberation army had to step in and take it over? let's watch dr. fauci's rhetoric. watch this. >> do you still support sending money to the wuhan virology institute. >> we do not send money to would you hand. >> do you support sending money? under your tuttle landing through eco-health it was a subgrant. do you support money going to the nih going to the wuhan institute. >> let me explain to you why that was done. the sarscov-1 originated in bats in china t would have been irresponsible of us if we did not investigate the bat viruses and the serology to see who might have been infected. >> or perhaps -- elizabeth: okay. but you know what? that is not, dr. fauci, excuse

me with all due respect, that is not the issue. this virus has yet to be found in nature. it mutates to appear it is natural when it is not. nicholas wade said it was bio engineered, it was reverse engineered. it looks like you know, again the scientists can't find them. senator rand paul says china's top scientist at the wuhan lab admitted in a research paper saying yeah, we got money from dr. fauci's agency to do this research. again these viruses are not organically, they don't appear in nature. scientists still can't find them. your reaction? >> and at the point where it began that very rapid transition from bat to human, why, why was there no evidence of that beforehand? why did it just start de novo on one day i guess in december 2019? this is a question i asked a year ago when we first encountered this illness. i did get a classified briefing

from someone in the department of defense and they said their best available evidence at the time this was not something that had been bio engineered but i do think because of other information has come to light since then you have to actually question that hypothesis. elizabeth: yeah. you cannot take now what china says at face value. even the w.h.o. says that. they want a new investigation. i will tell you something, we would love to get dr. fauci on the show because we want to ask him the questions that need to be asked on this. three million people dead. 600,000 americans dead. this has got to stop. congressman michael burgess, we really appreciate it. just ahead, deneen borelli will give us her take on democrat governor whitmer plunging approval ratings on how she handled her state as lockdowns. she also broke her own travel ban. the story next.

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♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show fox news contributor deneen borelli. michigan democrat governor, her job approval ratings are plummeting. what do you say? >> well, i don't think they're plummeting fast enough or low enough, liz. i read through this recent poll that came out by this leftist group, and 50% of those polled don't believe whitmer is responsible for the covid-19 nursing home deaths. this is one of her mandates under her watch. what is up with these constituents? how come they cannot connect the dots? that is what voters need to do, how policies affect them and their families. this was whitmer's mandate, that harmed, killed, innocent nursing home patients. in fact that did not have to handle. elizabeth: she was also not asked in this poll about recent scandals, reportedly traveling

to florida on a private jet within days of telling michigan residents don't violate my travel plan. she flew on a private jet owned by business men who do business with the state. we have news, deneen, she wants to seize profits of a canadian energy company that has a pipeline running through michigan. she says you have to shut the pipeline down and if you don't i will seize your profits. have you ever heard of a governor say they will seize the profits after private company? >> no. governor whitmer is a train wreck in slow meggs, liz. i don't know where she gets that this pipeline has been in operation for decades she wants to flip the switch. you can't change the laws of supply and demand. the less supply you have, the more expensive the product is going to be. we're seeing that with the shortage of gasoline in the southeast parts of our country. people are fighting.

the prices are going up. the lines are long. gas stations are running out of gas. what is whitmer thinking? you can't do that to your constituents. i hope they're paying attention. again, like i said at the beginning of this segment, her rating numbers are not low enough. the constituents really need to connect the dots, how these policies are harming them and their families. elizabeth: all right. deneen borelli, good to see you. come back soon. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: coming up, former acting dhs secretary chad wolf. illegal border crossings hitting a 20-year high. look at this border officials say anywhere from 150,000 to 185,000 illegal immigrants crossed and got away, meaning they were not apprehended. we've got 20 governors sending a letter to the biden white house saying you were hitting us with your policies in a really bad and harmful and dangerous way.

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and get unlimited with 5g included for $30 on the nations fastest, most reliable network. liz: joining us from acting dhs secretary and heritage foundation visiting fellow back with us chad wolf, we love having you on, federal law enforcement at the border stopped 178,622 people trying to enter illegally, if this keeps up that the population of houston on annual basis. this is attitude decade high, how is this not a crisis? >> it certainly is a crisis the numbers not only the month of april but if you go back to the month of march the numbers are out of control and it's a result of the policies of the biden administration of put in place, whether you talk about single

adults or families or children the numbers are at historic highs the highest we've seen in 21 years and the numbers this year alone and were in the month of april have surpassed in most categories previous year totals so you can see where were at and you can see where were going and again, this administration continues to not look at the issue on the border and try to enforce the law on the border again what they're trying to do is solve the capacity and it's the wrong approach and they talk about moving children at a border patrol and into hhs and that's one facility to another instead of addressing the issue and making sure that they do not come in in the first place. larry: it's astounding we have 21000 children in 200 facilities across dozens of states, toddlers and infants. are these numbers correct 185,000 got a ways meeting

people crossing on apprehended, not apprehended, is that number correct? >> that is probably the number for the entire fiscal year but that number as it goes up and the numbers increase each and every month the number of got a ways increase each and every month whether you look at april and may alone you're probably looking at 25 - 35000 got a ways and these are individuals border patrol never encounters you don't know who they are or if there single adults or family units but you don't know if their criminal, if there gang member or worse a terrorist or terrorist connections of some kind. so you're exactly right the number of got a ways continue to increase because the numbers continue to increase. liz: here's the thing this is a federal and state right issue, human smugglers abandon five unaccompanied toddlers as young as 11 months, wasn't even old enough to walk, border agents in texas sees $4.6 million in math and cocaine, the national guard

is finding abandoned ak 47 pistols, we have governors firing off a letter saying to the biden administration you're essentially violating state rights, criminal illegal drug traffickers, people who been convicted of homicide pour into a town and city. plus they cite to quote inhumane children of tens of thousands of children that they had to deal with in their state is this a federal and state right issue? >> i believe the governors are exactly right, the crime and the resources that is going to take to dedicate to this come from the states, the federal government is trying to house the individuals but once they released into the u.s., the vast majority of family units in children are in becomes a state

issue and the resources and lawn force meant resources, private sector resources that are dedicated that are borne by the states in these governors so they are rightfully so very concerned about what is going on, again at the border is not only a humanitarian issue that we see with the borders but a security issue as well and these are two things that did not have to happen, this is a crisis that was entirely inflicted upon the country by the biden administration they were handed a border that was safe and secure in the numbers under control. larry: i got it, but it is also local taxpayers that have to foot the bill for the enforcement of this and dealing with border towns, home invasions, carjackings, robberies, stores rob, it is the local u.s. taxpayers in these states having to foot the bill to deal with this, final word. >> absolutely is a local law enforcement i talked to the shares overwhelmed and the number of folks after encounter

each and every day. is not only law enforcement is a civil society the border states and communities. liz: chad wolf, they get so much for joining us, we really appreciate it. it's good to see you. >> thank you. liz: i'm elizabeth macdonald, even watching "the evening edit" on fox business, we appreciate you watching, thank you so much for joining we hope you have a good evening, join us again tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ ♪. larry: hello everyone welcome back to "kudlow" i am larry kudlow. after coasting for four months on donald trump's coattails meaning operation warp speed vaccination success and the low tax minimal regulation and energy independence economy, now all the sudden president biden is starting to feel pain the guy had a sloppy week or two. the job numbers didn't pan out,