dan grant, good to see you. thank you very much. by the way nike did not immediately respond to requests for comment from fox business. we wish we can give them an altar if they want to preach a little. that does it for us on "fox business tonight." "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: well stocks taking hits again on inflation fears. tonight we break down where this is all headed. we're going to show you also even more flip-flops, 180s and confusion from the biden administration including this big one, like green-lighting russia's nord stream two pipeline in germany after russian hackers shut down the u.s. colonial pipeline and after the biden administration killed keystone and they're blocking the dakota access pipeline. all of that fueling higher gas price, even maybe shortages and

gas lines. tonight we'll try to bring you clarity through this fog of confusion and also this, whether a republican contender for the presidency and for congress can capitalize. joining me tonight missouri congressman jason smith, former federal prosecutor jim trusty, congressman louie gohmert, dr. marty makary, ford o'connell, kentucky congressman andy barr and former acting i.c.e. director ron vitiello. will biden's policies again make the u.s. dependent overseas oil? just like germany will be dependent on russian gas. just like russian hackers shut down the colonial pipeline, russia shut down power in ukraine. president trump reportedly getting set to launch his make america great again. joining the manhattan d.a. and the investigation into the trump organization. we'll debate the political fallout there. nancy pelosi doubling down today, still demanding the how

the wear masks inside even though the cdc said you don't have if you're vaccinated. house republicans defiant, asking what happened to follow the science? dr. fauci blaming americans today for quote, misinterpreting the cdc's confusing mask guidance after dr. fauci confused the country with flip-flops, taking every side on masks and more. we'll break it all down. plus there is more evidence surfacing that the nih-backed u.s. funding of super virus research overseas. we're digging into the government documents. this despite dr. fauci's heated denials. all this after dr. fauci also being bad funding for quote, creating dangerous super viruses in laboratories to create vaccines. we have the documents. woke corporate america called out in a new ad campaign by a conservative group accusing big-name companies of exploiting politics and potentially forced

slave labor in china. and new government data showing tens of thousands of illegal border-crossers have come into the u.s. we've got the new numbers for you tonight. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's begin tonight with missouri congressman jason smith. it is good to have you back on, sir, good to see you. no breakthrough yet on infrastructure what was your reaction when you saw the biden administration removing sanctions on russia's nord stream two pipeline into germany? it didn't want to damage diplomatic relations with germany but killed the keystone pipeline. will more u.s. pipelines be killed? what do you think of this policy? >> liz, it is great to you. this policy is absolutely ridiculous. when the biden administration

put jobs and pipelines in russia ahead of u.s. pipelines. when they by the stroke of the pen eliminate the keystone pipeline, firing tens of thousands of hard-working americans and where their secretary of energy even testified and says that pipelines are good for the environment and they work it, doesn't make sense, how that they would allow russia to have more of an influence in europe and allow them to be able to supply more natural gas is unacceptable. elizabeth: so what changed? in order nord stream 2 is a german company controlled by gazprom, russian giant, controlled by a former east german officer close to russian president vladmir putin? what changed at the confirmation hearing, i am determined to stop the nord stream 2, because russia is trying to divide europe and weaken energy security? what changed? >> looking at it all globally,

by allowing this without a doubt it allows this administration get closer to entering into the iran agreement which i think would be absolutely demonstrating. this administration says one thing, does the other. it has been very consistent in every process they have been involved in, whether spending, whether taxing. we're seeing it on the world stage, national security issues. elizabeth: so you're saying this is a prelude to getting back into the iran deal? a setup for that, is that what you're saying? >> absolutely. without a doubt, definitely it is allowing the russians to have greater influence within europe. this is a way the administration can start pushing it. also this administration, anything that donald trump was for or opposed they are the complete opposite. that is exactly what we saw with what has created the border crisis. they're now doing it with the national security. and so, the fact that biden, the fact that president trump put sanctions in regards to this, they're now moving it. elizabeth: okay.

all right. we have the energy secretary, jennifer granholm testifying today. she tried to walk back her comment that, quote, pipe is the best way to transport fuel. watch this testy, fiery exchange on capitol hill today. watch. >> madam secretary, did the administration cancel the pipeline because of politics, because it was clearly not for climate benefits because it is going to increase climate, it will increase carbon emissions. >> no. it canceled them the president made this commitment because he believed that there are other ways to go especially in promoting clean energy and -- >> but you said that, but you said that pipe is the cleanest way to. >> safest way to move fuel. >> colonial is the only way to get gasoline from one place to another along that seaboard because there aren't deepwater ports to be able to allow tankers. elizabeth: so this sort of feels, confusing right? we hear the dhs second defending

pipelines as critical infrastructure. are we wrong, is this confusing? so what is going on here? >> liz, they don't pay attention to facts. they're not consistent. the fact that the secretary said one thing about the cleanest, best way to move new fuel is through a pipeline and she is denying it there. i have a lot of concerns with, is we're here this secretary, stood in front of the world last week and said you know what? we wouldn't have a gas crisis if people drove more electric cars? guess what? this same secretary has millions of dollars in stock options to electric car batteries and electric car vehicles. that is unacceptable. this administration is all about rewarding their friends, their political allies, their donors and this is just being consistent. elizabeth: the energy secretary also blamed gas shortages at one point on the virus.

now the other thing, they're talking about a carbon tax, taxing everybody on carbon uses, usage, factories, farms, construction companies, consumers. congressman jason smith, it is good to see you come back soon. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: get right at it this next case, former doj prosecutor jim trusty is with us right now. how serious for former president trump that attorney general is joining in the manhattan attorney in investigation into the trump organization? the president will do his maga rallies again. >> the merger of the state ag with the manhattan da's office doesn't have practical effect that the trump organization will be charged with something. back to the bay i basics, liz, t it is striking to me they announce doing criminal investigations into people or

organizations. that is not what ethical prosecutions is about. you don't prejudge getting it out to the media by going after somebody with criminal charges. i don't know how we got use to that in this day and age, maybe it is the rule this year, if it is trump you break ethics. it will or not have blow back tore the investigators, but i suspect not with the media treats people going after trump. it doesn't bode well for people like me looking at it within 30 years in the criminal justice system to see prosecutors acting this way. elizabeth: we hear you, it's true what you're saying is that we haven't seen this before where we see criminal prosecutions leaked to the media, damaging a person's rep attention. if you take out the name trump. the probe is whether the trump organization inflated the value of its assets to lenders and insurers in order to secure loans to get economic and tax

benefits. the underlying theme here, again this is just speculation that this sounds like bank fraud and tax fraud. this feels like the leaks are alleging. the former president has blasted the investigation as politically motivated, calling it corrupt. he is saying all i get is unfairly attacked and abused. this is ongoing. what's the end result here? where do you think this leads? >> this is interesting, letitia james as the state attorney general, very high-profile, very happy to get in front of the cameras to announce things she is looking into cuomo's sexual harassment, going after the nra, opening a criminal probe now against the trump organization, none of it has come to fruition. doesn't mean it won't but we don't have any idea she has the type of evidence to back that up. so we're really not sure she has. cyrus vance, the d.a. ever manhattan, this guy stood up and had a press conference the day

paul manafort was sentenced federally, announced he won't escape new york justice on a charging document that violated new york's double jeopardy provisions and it got dismissed. they were grandstanding at trump's against but none of them delivered anything to show there is meat behind the accusations. elizabeth: jim trusty, thanks for your insights and perspective there. good to see you again. 678 come back soon. >> you too, liz. elizabeth: sure, to israel where there appears to be no end in sight between hamas and israel despite president biden telling israeli president benjamin netanyahu the u.s. expects a significant de-escalation. let's get to fox's trey yingst with details and more from southern israel. trey? reporter: strong words from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu who said he will not rule out reoccupying gaza if needed. netanyahu responded to a fourth call by president biden to cut a

cease-fire deal to end the fighting. conflict with israel and hamas entered the 10th day. overnight the israelis campaigned against the underground tunnel network against hamas. an additional eight miles of tunnel was destroyed. since last monday four thousand rockets have been fired towards israel. israel twice tried to kill the chief of the hamas military wing but failed. inside of gaza rescue teams are digging through the rubble for collapsed buildings looking for survivors. many civilians moved closer to hospitals and u.n. schools after dozens of women and children were killed over the past week. another update, four rockets were fired from lebanon into northern israel. at least one of them intercepted by israel's defense system. it gives you a sense how many fronts israel has to look at all at the same time. liz. elizabeth: thanks, trey yingst from southern israel. louie gohmert on nancy pelosi doubling down, saying the house must wear masks, even if they're vaccinated. we'll talk to the congressman

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elizabeth: joining us now texas congressman louie gohmert. you got a warning for not wearing a mask in the chamber last night. four house republicans were fined. so that is your warning. can you tell us what happened? >> well, we are really outraged. we're told we need to follow the science but we have a speaker far more concerned with politics with, control, with optics, which you know, sergeant-at-arms apparently said was the reason they wouldn't bring in the national guard it to protect the capitol on january 6th. it is all about optics for these

people. it is trying to convince people that oh, it is a terribly dangerous place to work. the only thing is, liz, is that the chief of capitol police told the entire republican caucus that there is no intelligence from any source whatsoever that any members is a threat to any other member. there is no need for the metal detectors. same thing nor the masks. now the cdc is actually admitted, and you know, cdc is not fauci. he is kind of like keynes as an economist. churchhill said you would have an unlimited number of opinions with sir keynes spoke. that is where fauci is but the cdc says you know, they're not necessary in this situation like what we have here in the house of representatives. elizabeth: so it sounds like, you're saying that the democrats

are playing politics with this. >> yeah. elizabeth: put out kind of the feeling and the message only democrats can keep you safe. you know, but what message does this by the way say about vaccines? is this sending the wrong message about vaccines? the cdc says, okay if you are vaccinated you don't need to wear masks. where is the science in all of this? >> well the science is if you're still wearing a mask and you're not a threat to anybody, then you're either crazy or you're all about control and of course we've seen the president wearing masks off by himself in the great outdoors, so you might make your decision, is he about control or is he crazy? well, that is for others to decide. elizabeth: you know, congressman, it feels like what you're seeing and you know, this fight about wearing masks is a microcosm what is going on across the country.

for the first time since the pandemic began you know this, covid cases are down in all 50 states. >> yeah. elizabeth: 16 states have no covid deaths. hospitalizations are going down. nearly four in 10 have been fully vaccinated. we have half the country, half the states say you don't need to wear masks. >> right. elizabeth: you have this fight in d.c., what is the look for the rest of the country what we're seeing happening in washington? >> we were just getting screamed at on the house floor over the desire for this commission and the message was, you know, why can't you be bipartisan? you know the 9/11 commission was worked out. i got up on the floor things have changed since 9/11. back then the democratic party could actually condemn anti-semitic remarks from one of its members. it could and now it won't.

back then we agreed on all kinds of things. both sides of the aisle sang god bless america back then. the president can't even invoke the name of god on national day of prayer. things have changed dramatically with 9/11. with one party it is not not for the good. elizabeth: getting back to masks. we have video of a 10-year-old boy who gave impassioned speech to the school board in florida, begging the school to lift mask mandates. let's watch this. >> i know my teacher has asthma and everything but i understand why it is hard for her to wear a mask. i think she should have that choice but i should too. i feel really anxious with my face covered but i'm not allowed a mask break like her. it seems unfair. it seems unfair around it doesn't make sense. i miss seeing people's face. i miss the way things used to be. i'm scared they will never go

back to normal. breathing is something we shouldn't have to ask any other people for permission for. please make masks optional. today would be so awesome to end the school year on a real happy note. thank you for your time. >> isn't he marvelous. elizabeth: getting famous for that. what do you think of that, sir. >> it is beautiful. we need that girl in congress. she's fabulous. elizabeth: it's a boy. >> liz, last year, i went to, congressman sam johnson's funeral. such a hero. seven years in hanoi hilton. he had the honor detail out there and it was outside and two of the honor guard passed out. they had to bring in ambulances and medical care and i asked the sergeant in charge of the detail afterward, i said, maybe i guess two hours is too long to wait out here in the heat. he said, sir, we've been in a lot hotter places for a lot longer but it is the masks, the

masks make us, make people pass out. that can't be good for our military, when they have to wear masks out. you know, for heaven's take, letting them not pass out would be better than risking 99% chance of survivability with covid. elizabeth: okay. congressman gohmert we love talking to you, you give us -- >> always love talking to. >> tell us what is going on. good to see you. come back soon. come back again. next up, same here, dr. makary back with us on dr. fauci now blaming americans for quote, misinterpreting, what everyone says is the cdc's is confusing mask guidance after critics say dr. fauci has been confusing everyone with his flip-flops and 180s, taking every side on masks for instance. we've got the growing list of confusion spelled out for you

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. dr. fauci, now blames americans for quote, misinterpreting the cdc's confusing rules on dropping masks if you're vaccinated. you're subject to local rules. dr. fauci is also doubling down on masks saying a mask mandate is still basically in effect. welcome back to the show, fox news contributor, dr. marty makary. okay, where do you come down on this? i can only imagine. justin amash, former independent saying dr. fauci is taking every side of the argument here. what do you think? >> i noticed from the very beginning with dr. fauci he talks in very yen terms but when he says people are misunderstanding the cdc guidance i disagree. i think people understand exactly what the cdc is saying but the cdc lost all the credibility with the american public. a recent harvard study showed

52% of americans don't trust the cdc at all. it is for three reasons. they're talking about masks outdoors for some people. that is ridiculous. they're clinging to the outdated summer camp guidance they put out. that is absurd. there should be no restrictions for summer camps. ignored natural immunity alienating half the country that had the infection in the past. they put out more numbers creating a dire picture, 37% of the population has been vaccinated. they should be say 80% of the population is immune. at least one dose plus natural immunity combined. that is why cases are collapsing right now. elizabeth: you know, doctor, dr. fauci told abc he was wearing a mask indoors for show for optics not based on science, to create an impression even though he was vaccinated.

he said that after he testified, masks are not political theater. he said that under oath. let's watch the exchange here. watch. >> how has it change what you do? how has it changed your mask wearing practices? >> i didn't want to look like i was giving mixed signals, being a fully vaccinated person the chances of my getting infected in an indoor setting extremely low. and that's the reason why in indoor settings now i feel comfortable about not wearing the mask because i'm fully vaccinated. >> you've been vaccinated and you parade around in two masks for show. >> well let me just state for the record that masks are not theater. masks are protective. >> if you have immunity they're theater. if you have immunity you're wearing a mask to give comfort to others. >> time has expired. elizabeth: you see that, right? it just, doctor it feels really confusing. what is the message then if you

he is saying masks but what is the message on vaccines and efficacy on vaccines? >> well, look i never thought i would say this but please ignore what our public health officials are saying. ignore the cdc guidance and let's make it very simple so everybody can understand what to do. everyone should live a normal life after this point unless you've not had the infection and you're not vaccinated in which case you need to be careful a little bit longer. we have completely distorted per session of risk out there and it is interesting the only tough questions to hold dr. fauci and dr. wollensky come during their hearings, not during everyone of thousands of interviews with the mainstream media. those are the questions right now we need answered. elizabeth: you know, here's the thing, we've seen this from the beginning with dr. fauci, it's a tough spot, you know it to be a health official, but he said in the beginning you don't need to wear masks. he admitted i was saying that

because i wanted to conserve masks for hospital workers. he admitted to "new york times" he was changing the goalpost on herd immunity when he saw polls half of all americans would take a vaccine. he said herd immunity would be 70, 75%, when polls showed 60% would take a vaccine. i will nudge it up that herd immunity is 80, 58%. then he said we really don't know what the real number is, you know what i mean? seriously, what is he doing? >> well he is moving the goalpost as lot and i think people are seeing through it now. early on to be very honest with you, liz, i saw right through dr. fauci. if you go back to watch the tapes, early when many of us were sounding the alarm the pandemic was about to hit we were talking to many leaders in government at the highest levels of government and over and over again we were told dr. fauci says we're going to be okay. he says there is nothing to worry about. i think it is important to show some humility around a virus

where you have gotten some things wrong. elizabeth: all right. you know, it should be pointed out reports coming in hospitals don't let you inside of a covid-19 patient's room if you're not wearing a good n95 mask. we don't know whether it is political theater or not. dr. marty makary thanks for joining us. next up, gop strategist ford o'connell, we've got more and more evidence surfacing out of government documents that the nih yes, did back and did support u.s. funding of supervirus research despite dr. fauci's heated denials. dr. fauci admits he doesn't have any accounting of how china spends the funding it gets. and we also again are going to talk about how dr. fauci himself supported funding for quote, creating superviruses in the laboratory. dangerous viruses created in laboratories to make vaccines. the story next. >> there might be some technical difference in terms of when and how specifically gain of

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>> but you sported -- elizabeth: okay, did you catch that contradiction inside of that. that was dr. fauci heatedly denying that the nih and the niad funded supervirus frankenstein research in the wuhan lab but dr. fauci admits he doesn't have an accounting what china is doing and the funding it gets but what he is not saying that the nih did lift a ban, allowed gain of function research four years ago. also dr. fauci backed and supported creating superviruses in laboratories, dangerous superviruses, he said that in a "washington post" op-ed 10 years ago. bring back gop strategist ford o'connell. your reaction to what dr. fauci is leaving out here? >> well i think he is being extremely defensive and he is playing word games. i think this exchange with rand paul. since the outset dr. fauci has not been straightforward with the american people or congress about the origins of covid, the

research went into it and the possibility that the u.s. might have funded that research. >> okay. we hear what you're saying, ford. dr. fauci, when you watch what he is saying he is saying quote, it is preposterous for senator paul to say that the u.s., or he supported research in the wuhan lab. he is saying that is not the case. we had a minor collaboration for what was going on with funding in the wuhan lab, 1.1 million. the echo health alliance hired the wuhan lab to look into dangerous superviruses. he is sort of on a narrow track on the denial but we're looking at the broad context what was the nih and fauci's niad agency was doing for isn't. >> i think that's a great question and it is quite clear if you look at the documents, that the nih or the united states taxpayer has been at times funding research within the wuhan china lab. i think what he is trying to do here is sort of sidestep so the

people don't investigate it. elizabeth: you know, ford he is saying, yeah, talking about the wuhan lab, the point is china accredited its own lab as a biosafety level four. china itself gave that level to the wuhan lab. what needs to be debated is, open the books, show us the money, show us where the money went, and talk about how dangerous viruses like smallpox and sars have escaped from viruses. from laboratories, right? show us what the u.s. is funding. that's it. elizabeth: look, you're absolutely -- >> you're absolutely right. we need transparency when it comes to covid. we need transpare currency when where the u.s. money went. we had three million people die from covid, okay? there has been very little transparency about the origins of it. we don't know definitely it came from the wuhan lab but it is pretty clear here. that is not a tinfoil hat rant. that is the evidence right in

front of us, to your point, emac, this is not the first virus to escape from a lab. we had sars, we had smallpox. we had bird flu. also not the first time that the u.s. engaged in gain of function research whether in the united states or abroad. gain of function research is really a euphemism. what you're toying is pandemic pathogens. elizabeth: you know dr. fauci also denied what senator rand paul pointed out, yes, this, dr. ralph barrick at unc chapel hill trained the wuhan lab top scientists to create chimeric viruses with multiple parts. why is fauci denying that. he was quoted in nature magazine we generate pad key mayor rick virus. your feign al word? >> i think all the links are there to discuss this. i think what is concerning here

bureaucrats like dr. fauci don't want to get to the truth. everyone in d.c. doesn't seem to want to get to the bottom of this and this should scare the heck out of the american public because we need to know what went wrong and how to prevent it in the future. elizabeth: yeah. we can't let it happen again. ford o'connell, it is terrific to have you on. come back soon. just ahead kentucky congressman andy barr on quote corporate america being called out in a new ad campaign by a conservative group accusing big-name companies exploiting politics and exploiting potentially things like forced slave labor to make products in china as american workers suffer. the story next. ♪. derriere discomfort. we try to soothe it with this.

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back to the show kentucky congressman andy barr. good to have you back on, sir. >> good to be with you. elizabeth: it is good to see you. this is this new ad campaign

calling out american airlines, nike, coca-cola for putting politics before customers. it is consumer research. what do you say to this? >> it is about time someone pointed out the hypocrisy which is quite astonishing, hypocrisy from woke corporate executives n the case of nike you have a situation where at the same time the corporate executives at nike are bowing to political pressure from colin kaepernick to cancel the betsy ross nike sneaker because of some reference or allusion to the slave era in the united states. we find out that they are sourcing from a bipartisan congressional report, nike is sourcing their sneakers from slave labor in the shenzhen province from the uyghurs. on top of that when congress passed overwhelming huge

bipartisan vote, to ban prohibit products coming from slave labor, nike lobbied against that. it is about time someone pointed out this range hypocrisy. elizabeth: we should point out nike heededly deny but would not testify before house foreign affairs recently. this conservative group, the non-profit consumers research director, will hid, american airlines shrunk leg room for passengers, laid off workers, thousands of them during the pandemic. they got billions in taxpayer bailouts and coca-cola, nike, he also again is saying they exploit forced labor overseas in places like china. sir, where is the dramatic statement from 100 companies on china's slave labor, on cracking down on democracy in hong kong, cracking down in hong kong? they made a dramatic statement about georgia's voter law. where is their dramatic

statement on that? >> exactly right. you have the companies in america who are being pressured and bullied by the far left in this country to condemn a voter i.d. law, a voter integrity bill, a bill that strengthens our democracy. yet, when it comes to their investments in china, a proven, human rights violator, a country, a communist regime that ripped up an international agreement and cracked down on pro-democracy demonstrators in hong kong that threatens democracy in taiwan, not a peep. so what i would say to the woke corporate executives of this country, is if you care so much about democracy, hold the chinese communist party accountable and stop, stop criticizing laws and proposals that defend democracy in the united states. elizabeth: congressman barr, good to see you. thanks for joining us. next up, former i.c.e. acting director ron vitiello on the extraordinary number of illegal

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elizabeth: former acting ice director robert hello looks like we have a number new dump enter government data shows that the biden administration release 62000 immigrants who illegally cross the u.s. border into the u.s. despite the fightings claims that most families are not be taken into custody were seen 62000 there without legal documents to appear in court and were still fact checking this number, this is unconfirmed, another 62000 came in for humanitarian reasons, that is 120,000, what do you say. >> is another example of what this government and this president and his team sending a signal to the globe that the border is open, they inherited a system the tools that prevented and ended the last surge in 2019 those were not on the table when they walked in the door and they took them off the table encouraging people to come incentivizing children and families to send their children

and because of the covid in the pandemic the border patrol was forced on the logistic sides to release family and family members, that is going to encourage other people to make the dangerous journey. elizabeth: this number is way way higher than the number released under the trump administration, right? >> yes when the migrant protection protocols went into effect people were expelled back into mexico to wait for their asylum hearings and there was a need to release large numbers of families and the children under title 42 and coordination with the government was being return until january 21. elizabeth: by the way the numbers do not include tens of thousands of unaccompanied children and obviously

discharged by health and human services. should congress have hearings on this, are they going to have hearings on this, again 62000 released into the u.s. communities and society without legal documents to appear in court later on, that is a lot of people. >> it shows you how chaotic it was for many weeks along the border and to your point, congress should engage on this, there was a situation where we can controlled the last surge that ended in 2019 with these tools and congress can come back in those were all agreements that was diplomacy and foreign relations so congress can come in and solidify that activity with law in the 2014 surge it was true again in 2018 i was part of team that went up with dhs to help give the border patrol the tools that they

needed to stop the surges and keep them from happening again, congress has a role to play and it seems like this administration isn't going to lift a finger to go back to the policies that they reversed so congress can make them. elizabeth: it's really congress, the house and the senate, they've got to get it done. what were hearing many are transported to the regional border patrol stations, booked into the system, border patrol and human traffickers they booked them into the system and they get dropped off at a bus station because border patrol and u.s. authorities can't physically accommodate the very large and high number of people rising and they don't have the capacity to deport them, is that what's going on? >> this is a challenge regardless because of the logistics, there almost during 6000 encounters every 24 hours and you put on top of that the

pandemic, were not supposed to be in crowded facilities, you're not supposed to be jammed up indoors, two, three, four, five weeks ago, this makes it harder because of the covid and again, agents and officers have to be on their post, do this work and when a child comes to the border alone and agent encounters them, they have no way to refuse that encounter, they gotta take the child into custody and they have to move them through the system so they can get into a shelter it is not a great scenario but when you have people sick in the covid rate much higher in this population it's going to concern them as well. elizabeth: you said around cities and states we were seeing border crossings from 160 nations trying to cross the border, your final word. >> it wasn't like this before, they took the tools off the

table, to your point congress could step in and fixes fairly dramatically. elizabeth: robert hello, thank you for your service to our country, i am elizabeth macdonald you been watching "the evening edit" on fox business, that does it for us thank you for watching. we hope you have a good evening and join us tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ ♪. larry: hello welcome back to "kudlow" i am larry kudlow, great to be here. there was a time in american politics, really stretching all the way back to harry truman with political and financial leaders in the jewish community were supporters of the democratic party, especially the national democratic party and presidential elections. this was principally because of solid democratic support for