right inside. after everything you do make sure you have enough heat in there to cook your meal right. it end up undercooked when you think you have the timing right or over cooked. make sure the heat is right inside of the grill. brian: great secret, edward. that does it for "fox business tonight." "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. hold on to your wallets. the pricey details and the off the wall cuckoo forecast of president biden's new six trillion dollar government spending blowout. this is the highest since world war ii. news is coming in, to help pay for all of this president biden wants to make a big whopping tax retroactive to this past april. even obama officials now warn all of this spending is not a good thing. the debate. the president wants to grow government by about 2/3 all in

but what about just letting the economy heal itself? now that america is on the move and reopening. tonight governor mike huckabee, congresswoman ashley hinson, representative tom hemmer, sol wisenberg, james carafano, michigan restaurant owner marlene that who was jailed for breaking governor whitaker's mask mandate. border official art del cueto. more on the senate unanimously approving the declassification of all the intelligence on on the origins of covid-19. including this doctor battling back against stories about the wuhan lab leak theory. he is trying to smother that story. he not only helps fund china's research. he helped china create man made superviruses inside of china. now he says we have to take china's word for everything, that there was no. debate and this debate, media

antiscience, anti-intellect get trump politics. did the u.s. media fall for china's propaganda machine when they slammed the wuhan lab leak story last year into this year? this as chinese doctors, journalists, whistle-blowers are risking their lives and battling arrest and censorship inside of china. two new hunter biden bombshells. reports coming in that vice president bide met hunter's foreign business partners despite all the denials. hunter's salary for the ukraine energy company cut in half after biden left office apparently because hunter's dad was not in office. we have the owner of a restaurant that was jailed defying the governor's lockdowns orders. remember the governor violated her own rule. the restaurant own are plans to sue the governor. she was shackled, strip-searched, cavity searched. border authorities pushing back

on the homeland security secretary accusing him of weakening arrests. mexico is say talking about the arrest of the worst criminals ever. they're trying to get. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. the dow, s&p 500 edging higher. the nasdaq slipping. we have first quarter gdp growth coming in at 6.4%, slightly below the 6 1/2% expectation but well ahead of fourth quarter gdp at 4.1% growth rates there. we begin with former arkansas governor mike huckabee. so great to have you on, it is terrific that you're with us tonight. what do you think of president biden's spending blowout? looks like the economy is turning around. >> it won't if you keep doing stuff like that. this is the problem you have when you elect a president who

never signed the front of a paycheck. joe biden lived in government his whole life. he has no idea what this will do to small businesses. this nonsense almost doubling the capital gains tax from 23 to 43% and then trying to make it retroactive, people from wall street to main street universally saying this is a terrible idea. the few people who have ever worked in government who have been in private sector business are also talking about how absolutely ludicrous it is and what a big impact negatively it is going to have on the economy. it's a very bad idea, liz. elizabeth: he is trying to make it retroactive to april, this past month, that is the capital-gains tax. you're right. it will be 43% at the top rate. governor, hear the things he is saying you can't reboot a global economy like flipping on a light switch. he is trying to spend his way out of disappointing growth.

essentially we need to grow government by 2/3. his estimates are just 2.3% inflation when its already hot, around 7% annualized as of the january figure, running 4 1/2% last month. he is saying really, just 2.3%? these are cuckoo forecasts. >> well the worst part of this assumption if he does more and more government things there the will be more jobs. the opposite is already happening. there are people sitting at home right now who could be employed but they're sitting enjoying biden's stimulus checks and unemployment. the reason i happen to know this because i've been trying to hire some people. guess what? you can't do it. you can't get anyone to come to work because they're going to make as much, maybe sometimes more money by not coming to work. that's joe biden philosophy of government and it is absolutely boogerring up the economy as we know it. you have got to have the economy that depends on the private sector and the fact is

businesses need people but businesses take it in the teeth when stuff like a capital-gains tax. the capital gains tax, liz, ought to be zero. there shouldn't be a tax on on cap gains what you're doing, you're punishing productivity when you tax capital gains. why do you tax something you want more of? don't you want productivity. when you punish it, you are discouraging it. it is the dunn dumbest thing joe biden could be imagining. elizabeth: you used the "b" word, i was going to say rainbows and unicorns. i was going to say, larry summers, former treasury secretary, gina mccarthy, jason furman we don't like your policies.

listen to this. >> this year we'll be 30 trillion-dollar in debt that is on top of 21, 22 trillion-dollar economy. we're at dangerous levels. elizabeth: okay, so he is saying dangerous levels but you know what we're hearing sir? senate democrats, they're real lay mad that senator mitch mcconnell wants to basically kill the capital riots commission via potentially a filibuster. they will try to get rid of the filibuster to ram through all of the spending. what do you say to that? >> well they're going to do something that will have irreversible consequences. it is not just about the examination they want to create. it is not just about the budget they budget they want to push through, slamly, pickup through, it is really about the long-term taught fur of the political environment in washington. it will be a disaster. i hope there will be folks, several democrats they will rue the day when they do. this maybe they will have some better judgment. goodness, i hope so.

right now washington has become crazy town. it is absolutely out of control. i hope we can hang on for dear life scratching our fingernails until the 2022 elections and get some of these folks sent home. get republicans in charge. not just any republicans but republicans with guts and republicans with convictions about sound economic principles because they're not being operated right now in d.c.? elizabeth: but senator warren is now saying quote, this is our chance to expand the our idea, our idea of what infrastructure means. that it is about things like paid family leave. we don't see that in the definition of infrastructure in the dictionary. >> no, they redefined it. they want to basically say macaroni and cheese is infrastructure if we say it is. this is alice in wonderland.

infrastructure is things built, and we need infrastructure. that something republicans can sign on to, what the democrats is calling infrastructure. it is just pork spending. this is the biggest pork fest that i have ever seen in my lifetime and liz, i'm getting pretty stinking old. i've been around a while. i have never seen the proposals they're putting forth calling it infrastructure. call it whatever you want. it is just wild, reckless government spending and it has a really harmful effect on the economy and on peoples jobs. elizabeth: all right. governor mike huckabee, good to see you. thank you so much for joining us. >> always a pleasure, liz. thanks. elizabeth: same here. joining me now iowa congresswoman ashley hinson. what do you think of the spending blowout? good to see you. >> good to see you too, liz. the spending spigot has clearly been turned on at a time we need the growth an opportunity for the american people it is very

clear to me the biden administration policies are taking our country in the wrong direction. i heard you discussions inflation and the price people are paying not only at the pump but at the grocery store, for new homes, we're seeing that materialize already and we have to right the ship. i heard the word cuckoo. the clock is ticking to right that ship to take our economy back in the right direction and get people's lives back to normal. elizabeth: thanks for picking up on the theme of cuckoo. i appreciate that. >> yeah. elizabeth: congresswoman, the other thing that is happening you know, there are a growing number of states are saying you know what? we'll pay to you work. we'll give you a bonus. you see that in arizona and montana and 23 states say say you know what? we'll cut off federal job benefits. that is pushback by republican run states and governors. >> absolutely. you're seeing that happen here in iowa. you're seeing that happen in republican states across the country. we need to incentivize people to go back to work, not to stay

home and be in direct competition. the private sector with the public sector. and that is what we're seeing right now. more incentive to stay home. you're making more money sitting at home than you are actually going to work. everywhere i go in my district, i kid you not, every business i've gone into recently has a help wanted sign on the door. can't incentivize people to come to work when they're making more on unemployment. those benefits are never meant to be permanent, right? they were meant to be there get us through the time and we need to get back on track. the best way to get our economy back on track is get people back to work. elizabeth: you know let's listen to senator roger marshall. he is trying to explain that there is a hidden tax on the working class and middle class that they need to pay attention to. he is saying what the government, what biden administration is doing is creating social injustices. watch this. >> i want everyone to realize and to emphasize the inflation is a social injustice. it certainly hurts those who are

on the lower income portion more than other folks. certainly hurts our senior citizens who are on fixed incomes. folks who have young families, young hard-working americans are impacted more by inflation than anybody else and again i just think at the end of the day what we're seeing here is a very socialist agenda that is leading to social injustices. elizabeth: is that message getting through? and why not just let the economy come back on its own? >> liz i think it is getting through. i did three town halls, public town halls where people could ask me whatever they wanted on tuesday in my district. time and time again, came up why is this inflation happening? what is the bottom line impact? what you discuss people what is happening, bottom line kitchen table discussing it is middle class and working class tax hike when they were paying more at the pump, paying more at the grocery store and paying more for goods and services. cip is 2%. we're seeing that on the rise increase. i heard you mention inflation

year-over-year. it is in essence a tax. we need to right the ship. best way to do that get the people back to work, get the economy going and stop the spending spigot clearly turned on by the biden administration. elizabeth: congresswoman ashley hinson, thanks for joining us. it is good to see you. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: up next we have a hot story for you. congressman tom emmer he will talk to us about the senate unanimously approving the declassification about all the intelligence on what happened with covid-19, the origins of it in china. we'll talk to him what ari fleischer calls the medias anti-evidence, anti-science, anti-intellect get trump politics that is damaging what america need to know. the story is next. >> is there anymore important question facing the world right now than how this pandemic which is devastated the global economy, devastated all of our individual lives, how it started? if for no other reason we don't

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♪. elizabeth: joining us now the chairman of the national republican congressional committee, he is congressman tom emmer. it is so great to see you. so what happens next after the

senate unanimously approved the, a bill to declassify intelligence on the origins of covid-19 in china? what happens next? >> well, first, liz, thanks for having me but what happens next, i'm so happy that finally we've got politicians in washington, d.c., republicans and in this case democrats as well, who are willing to put the american people before politics. who are willing to actually take a leadership role in this country and start to look into what really happened with this virus. the former administration, the former president, talking about how china played a role in it. senators like tom cotton out there months ago talking about questions that were raised. the real questions we should be asking right now, what happened to change the biden administration. you know these woke corporate executives -- elizabeth: we want to go, we want to move on from the politics of this. this shouldn't be politicizeed

because six million, 600,000 died in the u.s. and 3 1/2 million worldwide. we have to find out what the peoples liberation army was doing inside of the wuhan lab? australia has been all over that. maybe more lab workers got sick even hospitalized than we know about, right? >> that is exactly right. we know that the information that was being supplied was not accurate. we know that there are questions. clearly the biden administration and our friends over in the senate have seen something in the last week that has told them that it is time to take a different approach. instead of denying that something happened, it is time to investigate it and make sure not only that we know it happened, so we can make sure it doesn't happen again but that people can be held accountable. in this case that would be a question as to what role did china and specifically the lab in wuhan, what role did it play in creating this worldwide disaster. elizabeth: yeah. you know, it was, maybe it was just an accidental,

unintentional leak. maybe it wasn't a leak after man-made frankenstein virus, we don't know. the thing is the sars virus leaked out of labs twice in china. we have all this discord. press secretary jen psaki earlier this week said the president wants the international community to investigate. now biden orders the u.s. intelligence officials to look into it. it was always reasonable to look into it as a lab leak. why all the discourse? >> liz, you said it earlier, you're right. we shouldn't politicize this but let's face it because it got politicized right out of the gate, whether by the politicians themselves. whether that was about folks that have reasons for not wanting to investigate china. or maybe it was the media that wasn't interested in following the story, for whatever reason, it did get politicized. the good news the u.s. senate has decided we will do what america should do, look into

this, get to the bottom of it, get the facts, maybe sure we know what happens, so it doesn't happen again and hold those responsible accountable. elizabeth: because the media is falling for chinese propaganda, that is what critics are telling us. we have scientists close to it, trying to shut down coverage much it like dr. peter daszak. he got money from dr. fauci's agency. he worked on bat research inside of china. he tells the world no chance, no chance this virus escaped from the wuhan lab. the world health organization appoints him to investigate covid-19. of course he later declaire's the wuhan lab blameless. listen to the head of the non-profit echo health alliance, dr. peter daszak. we have him on tape, yeah we were researching coronaviruses in china for seven years. we have man made superviruses

and you you have to take china's word for it what happened. watch this. >> we went out to southern china and did surveillance of bats across southern china. we now found after six or seven years of doing this over 100 new sars-related coronaviruses, very close to sars. you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily. spike protein drives a lot of what happens with the coronavirus. >> yeah. >> see zoonotic risk. we can get the protein. worked with ralph barrick at unc to do this. >> right. >> do some work in the labs. we met with him, did you audit the lab? annually? dud you audit after the outbreak? yes. was anything found? no. >> taking their word for it? >> what else can we do. there is limit what we can do, we went right up to the limit. elizabeth: there is a lot of money to be made in vaccine

research, right? >> that's right. that's right. there is a lot of money to be made period. you need to follow the money. it is interesting that he would say we went right up to the limit in terms of what we could do, what we could find out, we stopped. look dr. anthony fauci has talked about this regularly. it does multiple interviews every day. liz, why has he not even raised the question? you've got actors out there who make a comment about taiwan is a country and they have to apologize. you have the nba that actually takes a knee whatever china tells them to do. we need to do the investigation. you need to follow the money. you need to find out what happened and make sure it never happens again. let's hold people accountable for what happened. elizabeth: yeah. so final word, these horseshoe bat viruses they were researching, right? >> that's right. elizabeth: they exist 600 miles away. they don't exist in wuhan.

researchers he posted studies about that, forced to delete it. south china university, one of the researchers there, he was censored. it seems plausible, so why not investigate it? congressman, terrific to have you on. thank you so much for your great insights. come back soon. up next former deputy independent counsel sol wisenberg will break down two new hunter biden bombshell reports. that the vice president did meet hunter's foreign business partners despite all those denials. hunter biden got his salary cut at the ukraine energy company, it was cut in half, right after joe biden left office. apparently because hunter's dad was no longer vice president. those are the stories coming up. >> what is our appetite for manipulation and lies? because you've been manipulated and lied blatantly. not evener is are up tissuesly but more than --

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♪. elizabeth: we're at the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. look who is back with us, fox news contributor sol

wisenberg. we love his insights. sol, great to see you. even more stories about emails from hunter biden's laptop. this time vice president joe biden despite all of his denials he did meet with hunter's business partners from russia, ukraine and kazakhstan while he was vice president at a dinner in washington organized by hunter biden. the white house is not commenting. "the daily mail" is reporting this. what do you say? >> well my recollection during the campaign his campaign staff, president biden's campaign staff denied that any such meeting occurred. i don't remember if biden himself did but it certainly is an, a very embarrassing fact. why do you have the vice president of the united states at this dinner? another question to ask with why is hunter biden getting over $80,000 a month? why is his salary cut in half. but keep your eye on the ball. there is political scandal and

there is criminal investigation. what's quite strike something that striking is there is criminal investigation going on that started in the previous administration. to his credit attorney general barr did nothing to politicize that, even let it be known. that investigation is continuing under the current administration. elizabeth: tax evasion and money laundering, yeah. >> well -- elizabeth: tax evasion and money laundering, right? >> and, potentially foreign ties. these investigations don't just, they don't just say we're going to look at this and nothing else. they have a way of expanding but it is very significant to me that there is an investigation that has been acknowledged and i must be the only one left in the country who still believes in the special counsel statute and to me, it is just preposterous that you don't. elizabeth: we don't know that will happen. >> that you don't have a special counsel investigating the president. elizabeth: here is the other thing going on. i want to get to the story you

just indicated. one of the burisma executives was at that dinner washington, the ukraine energy company that was paying hunter, was at that dinner reportedly according to emails at that dinner in washington, d.c., that hunter biden arranged. that happened in 2015 that dinner, joe biden reportedly was at. two years later, by the way that burisma executive thanked hunter profusely, thank you so much for introducing me to your father at that dinner t was great to talk to him. great to see you. then two years later, burisma cut's hunter's salary in half two months after joe biden left office. paying hunter a nearly a million bucks a year. his monthly salaries gets cut to 43,000 from 80,000 according to emails that the "new york post" got. >> yeah. what do you want me to say about that? connect the dots, you know? you don't have to paint me a picture. there is a reason that he was paid 80 and there is a reason it was cut in half. the question is can somebody,

can somebody make a crime out of that? i can tell you one thing, when u.s. companies hire the sons and daughters of high-ranking foreign government officials, we investigate them. our justice department investigates those companies for foreign corrupt practices act violations. so there is just, there is no question, this is not politics here, there is no question, i think everybody understands this is sleazy behavior. the question is is it going to result in criminal charges? we'll just have to wait and see. elizabeth: the other thing that happened too, another person reportedly at the dinner, she is the wife of the former mayor of moscow who wired hunter biden 3 1/2 million bucks. she was the at dinner too. one of emails suggest using his role on the board of the world food programme to use it as a cover to basically say, as a pretense this is why we're

having the dinner. my father will be at this dinner. remember how joe biden's team was saying look at the vice president's daily schedule. there is nothing there. there is nothing to see there about anything to do with hunter. maybe you should be looking at the world food programme on joe biden's daily calendar? >> yeah there was an official from that organization who was there but hunter clearly says in the email, this is the ostensible reason for the meeting but at a minimum they were there to meet with the vice president and you recall, if you recall from the investigation of, coverage of rudy giuliani and some of his friend in the ukraine, some of these foreign countries it's a big deal to have a picture of yourself at an event with a high-ranking american official and that whole, that whole thing plays into it. so it doesn't indicate in any way that biden, that joe biden

had any substantive discussion with these people just the fact that he's there, i mean is he so ignorant he doesn't know what is going on there? just the fact he makes an appearance is troubling. he is the vice president of the united states at the time. elizabeth: yeah. good to see you, sol wisenberg. come back soon. great to have you on. >> i will, thank you. thank you for having me. elizabeth: sure. next up retired colonel james carafano on this debate, did u.s. media fall for china's propaganda machine? they were driving it hard. the media didn't report the wuhan lab leak story but they kept undercutting it as a conspiracy. journalists, whit e whistle blowers risked their lives to get the story out of china. they battled censorship. we'll take it on next. >> you said you gave them money don't do gain of function

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♪. elizabeth: joining us now is heritage foundation vice president for foreign and security policy is james carafano. here is the question. we've been tracking what the u.s. media has been saying for a year now about the covid-19 virus potentially leaking from the wuhan lab. we've seen them undercut it as tinfoil conspiracy hat theories. did they fall for, excuse me, did they fall for chinese propaganda? because that is exactly what china was saying in their propogandist army, army of propogandists were pushing that last year? >> i actually think that this fits into the broader pattern of the way the media reacted over the that few years which was

simply if trump was for it their narrative was against it. so it was the opposition to trump i think is the larger issue? the chinese literally just exploited that. to me what is really interesting is, we're now like our fourth major story where people are not buying the grand narrative. the border secure? most americans don't think so. critical race theory is good. most americans think it is racist. voting laws are evil. most americans think voter i.d. laws are good. china is not responsible for this. we think it is. i think that is really interesting, why are americans now in their personal views breaking through the kind of mass, the mass narrative from media? media is forcing to change their story to actually recognize the reality, okay? elizabeth: we got this too. facebook is ending its ban on posts that the covid-19 virus was man-made. facebook wants to make money in china. we've got china rewriting the

narrative here. they're doing books on it. they're doing online media posts. they're doing tv shows. china has a army of prop propaganda its trying to convince the world they're not to blame. they're using racial discrimination, xenophobia and more. this is the chinese communist party going on offense. listen to the news going into over drive politicizing this. watch this. >> the question about the wuhan lab, we know that it has been debunked, that this virus was man made or modified or anything like that. agencies now have been tapped with investigating one of trump world's most favorite conspiracy here'sries. >> donald trump is still pushing the debunked bunk 'em despite his intelligence community findings it is not true. >> why is it split criminal charged? trumpers complicit playing dune the pandemic reality in america are now seeing more interest in the china lab theory as some

kind of vindication, enough to play, i told you so with fauci. elizabeth: trumpers, really? we're talking about w.h.o. director saying investigate it. we're talking about democrat senators tim kaine, patty murray, chris murray, investigate it. dni averill haines, investigate it. 18 scientists from mit, harvard, yale, cal tech, investigate it. these are not trumpers. >> i get it but here is the dynamic that changed. think for a second, the soviet union used to do this stuff all the time. nobody paid attention to it. we knew they were lying. the chinese did it before. nobody paid attention. what changed? the leftist narrative feeds off these foreign narratives that is what creates a real problem here. it is because what the chinese are doing is leveraging, in turn what the american left are doing leveraging the chinese message or the russian message, or the iranian message, that is what is

killing juice how about 600,000 people died in the u.s., more than that? how about 3 1/2 million people died worldwide from covid-19. don't we deserve to know what happened? lieutenant colonel, thanks for your service to our country. thanks for coming on. good to see you. till ahead a owner after michigan restaurant jailed for denying gretchen whitmer's lockdown restrictions including the mask mandate. she was shackled, strip-searched, cavity searched she will sue in federal court. >> stop. do you promise to tell the truth and nothing but the truth under penalty of perjury? yes or no?

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her attorney. she was jailed for violating governor whitmer's lockdown and man dates. can you tell us what happened. >> i don't know. allow me to start at what point? elizabeth: you said i will not do masks in my restaurant. i will not do social distancing and then you get into court. what happens? >> well, when i went to court i tried to defend myself which i have, as you know rick martin represent me assistance of counsel, not my lawyer to represent me on my behalf which was denied. they took them to jail and then i have plan b, robert becker who was my attorney because he is legal attorney. so he can represent me.

so when they took rick martin to jail, i tried to let the judge know that i had robert becker. he is going to be my attorney. i was polite. i tried to say, may i -- but as you see the judge denied. she don't allow me to speak. she don't follow the constitution which i have the constitution protected rights which should she allow me to at least speak it let them know i have a robert, which i -- [inaudible]. i pick and i give the name but each time she denied. she was outraged. i never see a judge in my life treat me the way she treat me -- so on. elizabeth: you know, robert, so violates the mask restrictions in the restaurant. then three to four cars of blocked out windows show up at

marlene's home, arrest her, strip search her, cavity search her, that what happened? >> in different stages under the direction of the attorney general of michigan the michigan state police sent a couple of unmarked police cars. they were surveilling her house previously. they chased her down and arrested her in front of her house. took her an hour 1/2 to the county jail and put her in front of the judge, that played a part of her hearing. she was denied at least four to five different constitutional rights that she had and then she was fined $15,000 and required to close the restaurant which she did and she got out after four days of incarceration. elizabeth: four days in jail. so you're going to sue over this, your final word?

>> yeah. we suing in federal court. we're pursuing appeals. we can't get accurate transcript out of hearings in ingham county. there were 40 errors in the transcript we received. we were refused to getting video. we'll pursue this to the michigan supreme court in not the united states supreme court if necessary. elizabeth: marlenea. this is real did i tushing. can you tell us how you feel right now? >> i feel like my constitutional protected rights have taken away. i feel like governor whitmer, and attorney general discriminate me. they don't treat me right. i feel like not a citizen. i feel like they treat me like them slight because as you know, the rights they should protect us and do all the stuff that they should do to every citizen. i don't think so.

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♪♪ elizabeth: joining us now, national border patrol council vice president art del cueto. art, it's good to see you. okay, texas border patrol, they're or reporting a spike in arrests, more arrests than ever before of convicted sex offenders, a slew of apprehensions announced this week. they nabbed nearly a hundred border crossers previously found guilty of sex crimes. i can't even tell you how much that's the multiple of from the previous year. what do you say? >> well, i mean, obviously what's happening, and welcome see it, it's not just happening in texas, it's happening across the entire border, the is the criminal element, the sex traffickers, the drug smugglers, the human smugglers, they realize that by sending many unaccompanied juveniles, it takes the focus away from agents where they're having to take care of them in some of these

defense facilities, and -- detention facilities, and that's when they take advantage of trying to send individuals across that have serious criminal backgrounds. elizabeth: yeah. and these guys who have serious criminal backgrounds are going to pay to get into the u.s. to get away from the law in their countries in central america and mexico. you know, the congressional hispanic caucus, the chair says there's a, quote, humanitarian dilemma at the border. he's calling it just a dilemma. what do you say? >> look, a lot of what's happening right now, it falls on the hands of the current administration. with their own rhetoric, what they've done is they've given this false hope for a lot of individuals that have their children in mexico or individuals that just want to cross in general. so what they've done is with their rhetoric, and it all falls on this current administration, is they've allowed these individuals to fall to the hands of the drug smugglers, of the sex traffickers, and that's why

we're getting what's happening right now. they've caused it themselves. if i you just look at the numbers, numbers are what you have to look at. if you look at the numbers last year and then you look at the numbers currently, on got-aways alone they've more than doubled, and we're not even halfway through the year. elizabeth: yeah. and, you know, how is it a dilemma when we're at, when we have 62,000 since the beginning of the year got-aways? mark morgan says it's multiples higher than that. 21-year high in illegal border crossings, the e give will lent of nebraska's population crossing this year. you've got to do it legally. you come here legally, thousands of people disappear on the way in on the 2300-mile trek up into from central america through mexico to the border. and now senator rick scott is saying he's going to block all top homeland security nominees until president biden goes to the border.

what do you say to that move? >> you know what, liz? it's not just -- i mean, someone needs to speak up and do something. it's not just central and south america. it's people from all over the world that are coming through. and when you are seeing numbers of people that are running, people that are trying to avoid arrests, the got-aways and everything else that we've spoken about before, who are they? what countries are they coming from, and what kind of harm is it they truly want to do to america and american lives? that's why something needs to be done, and it needs to be done quick with. elizabeth: okay. "the new york times" says 160 countries is where they're coming from. fox news poll, 56% disapprove of how the president's handled the border, 57% said not good on immigration either. so, you know, that's where we're at in this country. art del cueto, we really appreciate you joining us. we're going to talk to you more about this very important issue that looks like it's hitting president biden's approval ratings pretty hard right now. art del cueto, it's good to have

you on. come back soon. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: sure. i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. we really appreciate you joining us. thank you for watching, and we hope you have a good evening and join us again tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ david: hello, everyone, and welcome to "kudlow." i'm david asman in for larry kudlow. senate republican froms unveiling their $928 billion infrastructure package this morning dedicating funding to roads, bridges, rail and transit systems, kind of infrastructure, over eight years. [laughter] hillary vaughn is live on capitol hill with details. of course, a lot of questions about what is infrastructure. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey, david, that's exactly the divide right now between senate