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brown bear walking on a fence nearly going into a backyard in california, several dogs attempt to fight it off, this woman runs up to the bear, shoves it off the fence, she scooped up one of the dogs and ran back to safety, you go girl. that is it for me. me. >> good evening everybody, tonight the u.s. and uk putting pressure on the world health organization to conduct a more thorough investigation into the origins of the covid-19 pandemic as some reporters admit to dismissing the lab leak theory because republicans were the first to provide evidence of the possibility. joining us tonight, mike huckabee, kt mcfarland, congresswoman beth van duyne and congressman brian babin. also fox news contributor deroy murdock, former federal
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prosecutor jim trusty, national border patrol council vice president chris cabrera. also tonight biden flip-flops again on china. the president now admitting china thinks it will own america by 2035 as a former nsa boss warns that the u.s. could not handle a cyberattack from beijing. president biden unveiled his massive 6 trillion-dollar budget but the economy is already roaring back. so do we really need all of this spending? why president obama says any economic boom is because of him. more on the tensions rising in texas after state democrats staged a dramatic walkout to block a new voting bill. what governor abbott is threatening to do about it. and more bombshells from hunter biden's laptop but why is the media ignoring it, and will it impact the investigation into the president's son? pressure is mounting on the
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biden administration over the migrant crisis as well, but kamala harris, she has gone over 70 days overseeing the border crisis without visiting the southern border. now she is reportedly trying to distance herself even more. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. jackie: pressure mounts for the w.h.o. to investigate the covid-19. governor huckabee, always great to see you. paws for a moment, listen to this and react on the other side because the media is blacked for its coverage on the initial wuhan lab leak theory, listen to this. >> the question about the wuhan lab, we know it has been debunked that this virus was man-made or modified or anything like that.
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>> agencies now have been tapped with investigating one of trump world's most favorite conspiracy theories. >> donald trump is still pushing the debunked bunk 'em despite his own intelligence community that is not true. >> why is it politically charged? trumpers who were complicit playing down the pandemic reality in america are now seeing more interest in the china lab theory as some kind of a vindication, enough to play, i told you so with fauci. jackie: governor, i want to get your reaction to that. this seems like a follow-on we've seen. when it comes to anything donald trump was behind, whether the liberal media or liberals themselves, they don't want to have anything to do with it? >> you know, jackie, buttermilk sitting out in 100-degree sun ages better than all the news reports you just played. oh, my for, i would be just aghast if i were one of the
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anchors who now look utterly ridiculous when they keep talking about how it was debunked. there was nothing debunked. the fact it was never looked into. we have a press corps today that has no curiosity, that doesn't have the prerequisite cynicism the press ought to have about anything regardless where it comes from. they had nothing but cynicism for donald trump, even when he was telling the truth and they have nothing but contempt for the truth no matter how hard it hits them in the face. it really is an embarassment to journalism but also a reminder we should not trust the communist chinese party as being the source of anything that might make them look bad. and the world health organization, they too look utterly foolish and president trump was right to yank the funding from them because they were complicit with the communist chinese in trying to cover up the biggest story of the past decade. jackie: let's talk about this, governor, because when it comes to following the science which
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the left loves to say we didn't see them follow the science when it came to double masking after we were fully vaccinated, for example but in this case they're not following the science either, right? the doctors and the scientists say the former cdc director, dr. anthony fauci, they have all suggested not only that it is possible, it is even likely that this coronavirus, covid-19, came out of a lab because it was so potent it, was so strong, it was liking in else we've seen in nature. yet still you have people out there including the president himself it seems that just want to sort of brush this under the rug? >> well, it's really a tragedy and it's not that, it is just wrong but the only science that a lot of these people practiced was political science and it was whatever donald trump said they were against it. they took different view. they were complete contrarians. that is a dangerous place for science to be. science ought to be objective.
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it ought to be non-political, ought to be non-passionate when it comes to a particular point of view. it ought to look at facts, report facts. i thought the most scathing piece of all was written in "the washington post" of all places by josh rogan over the weekend, he just basically skinned alive his own profession for being so complicit in this coverup of what happened in wuhan. we had people that said it was racist to even suggest calling it the wuhan virus, the china virus. i guess it is racist to talk about german measles, the spanish flu but that's what we always do talking about an orrery -- origin. if people haven't read josh rogan's piece, it is word reading, you have your mouth on the floor can't believe "the washington post" published this given it was such a scathing report on their own profession. jackie: governor, let me ask you this. let's walk down this road. let's say president biden says i
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want to do a thorough investigate here but the chinese communist party will not give us access to the lab in wuhan. what is he to do? he has to stand up to them. even if we did find out the origin of the virus was from the lab, we found out what happened, what the exact story is he would still have to do something about it, there is part of me thinks that is the problem here. he doesn't want the answers because he is not prepared to do what it takes when we get them? >> if there was ever a time to stand up to china, jackie, right now. look at what china i about covering it up, say it was accidental, it wasn't intentional. let's give them the benefit of the down. the fact they covered it up for months prior to it really becoming a worldwide phenomena when they could have helped maybe prevent a lot of the dan that was done to the countries around the world economically and medically, to think nothing of the almost 600,000 americans
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alone that died from this, you can't just say, well, you know, china will be china. that is all we can do. just hope they do better the next time. jackie: yeah. >> we've got to take some serious actions against them. if we don't, then they will keep running over us and i think you know, they may take us by 2035 if we stay on that road. we can't do it. jackie: that certainly is their plan. governor, great to see you. thanks so much for your time tonight. >> thank you, jackie. jackie: all right. for more on the biden administration relations with china, i want to bring in former deputy national security advisor kt mcfarland, author of "revolution, trump, washington and we the people." great to see you, kt as always. i also want to start with a sound bite before we get into our conversation. watch this on biden's flip-flop on china. >> it is going to eat our lunch? come on, man. you know, they're not bad folks, folks, but guess what, they're not, they're not competition for
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us. i have spent more time with president xi of china than any world leader has. he firmly believes that china before the year 3035 will own america. because autocracies can make quick decisions. jackie: kt, i want to get your reaction to that. when he was on the campaign trail he was ripping pages out of the trump playbook when it came to standing up to china. now he is stepping back, yeah, president xi he wants to own us by 2035. he is not saying what he plans to do about it if anything at all? >> yeah. this makes me the most upset. not only did he finally recognize this that the chinese have every intention of replacing the united states as the domnant world power, next 20 decades, economically, politically, militarily, tock logically, every other way but what are we to do about it? you have to admit you have a problem. i'm delighted he admits we have
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a problem but what is he going to do about it? my problem throughout with the biden administration their words never match their deeds. we talk a tough game. we'll be tough on china, tough on russia, tough on iraq but they never do it. that is a serious admission time is running out. time is running out for the united states to seize the initiative economically, technologically, militarily, et cetera, et cetera. i don't see that we're doing it. jackie: speaking of technology, i think one of the things everybody is worried about but also the former nsa boss talked about and discussed the fact that the united states is not ready if there was a potential cyberattack from china and russia. you look what happened with the colonial pipeline, for example. cyberattacks can do a lot of damage and our infrastructure is not ready to handle something like that. god knows what kind of technology these countries have right now if they're armed to do it. what do you think this administration can do to reduce
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the threat of that? or do you think it is inevitable? >> well, one of the things i was really stunned with, when i joined the trump administration at the beginning of the administration was the attitude in the government and in the military, we don't want to have offensive cyber weapons. we know the other guys do but we don't want to have them because it might be provocative. we'll concentrate on defense. but the problem with the american economy is that our economy is outside of whatever defensive ring you might have. so for example, the chinese say if they want to have ends dids, that their are government defenses. all the companies fall under the auspice of their government. our don't. we don't have any real standards that we're forcing our private sector companies to meet. you know, a good example of this is a senior cybersecurity expert, of a major company, she once told me, you know, most big companies, they don't invest the kind of money they need to. it is big money to defend themselves against cyberattacks.
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they just buy insurance. they figure after the fact they will apologize everything will be fine. we don't have a penalty, don't impose that on our own people. that is part of it. but the big part the government is not taking this seriously enough. jackie: real quickly i want to get your reaction to the conversation i was having with governor huckabee before talking about the potential that covid-19 leaked out of the wuhan lab and what the country is going to do about it, and the administration as well. you know the american people want some accountability here. a lot of people died. our economy shut down. this was, on a massive scale. >> yeah. jackie: people want answers. >> yeah. i think to me there are three issues here, what were the chinese up to. what were they doing. a chinese military presence. the second question i have, what were we doing there? american dollars were not funding this particular research project but some research projects at the lab. finally i have a real beef with american media, particularly the social media tech titans because
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they censored any suggestion that it came from a chinese lab that had leaked out of a chinese lab, they censored it. in other words they let china get a free pass. china got away with it for a year. now we want some answers? it will be really tough, jackie. the chinese have had a year to clean up after themselves at the wuhan lab. jackie: that's exactly right. kt mcfarland, thank you so much. great to see you. >> thanks, jackie. jackie: all right, still ahead on the program, president biden unveiled his massive 6 trillion-dollar budget but the economy is already roaring back so do we really need all this frivolous spending? plus why president obama says any economic boom is because of him. congresswoman beth van duyne tells us what she thinks next when "the evening edit" continues. >> it was the best economy ever
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♪. jackie: welcome back, republican senator shelly moore capito is meeting with the president to continue infrastructure negotiations as progressive democrats are pushing biden to abandon bipartisan talks and pass a sweeping multitrillion dollar spending plan without gop support. biden unveiling a massive 6 trillion-dollar budget last friday that would keep deficits near record highs even though the economy is now roaring back. here to take it up, texas congresswoman, member of the house transportation and infrastructure committee, beth van duyne. congresswoman great to see you. thanks for joining us tonight. talk about this kind of a spending plan. the democrats are telling the president go big even if it is not bipartisan, we don't care, we want to push this through. your thoughts? >> well, that is part of the problem that we feel they're
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holding transportation necessary, necessary transportation in a time coming out of the pandemic that we needed to be competitive, that we needed to be globally competitive that we needed to move our goods and services around. they're using that as a ploy right now to be able to push through these far left socialist agenda items. they're holding transportation goods and services hostage right now. the dollar amount that we're putting on that is not in good faith. it is not sustainable. the spending we're talking about happening we haven't seen since world war ii. we have been very involved from a house perspective, we came up with a bill that was a 400 billion-dollar bill at that talked about actual infrastructure, not just roads and bridges, but for actual infrastructure transportation needs that has gone pretty much voided and ignored by house democrats. i know the senate had been able to make more headway, probably
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because they have the one vote difference but i'm hopeful that capito is going to be able to have some influence at the white house but, i haven't seen it, i haven't seen it yet. jackie: we'll see. we'll see how it goes. i like that you made that point. i just wand to underscore it. not that the gop is saying we can't do this. that we can't spend anything on it. in fact they're allocating billions. they're trying to bring the tab down a little bit. take a lissen to this, this is a sound bite of president obama taking credit for the economy as it is right now. saying he set the stage for president trump, listen. >> joe biden and the administration are essentially finishing the job. i think it will be an interesting test. 90% of the folks who are there were there in my administration. they are continuing and building on the policies we talked about, whether affordable care act or our climate change agenda and
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paris peace accords. jackie: congresswoman, your reaction to that because a lot of people heard that and were pulling their hair out saying president obama had the best opportunity to bring an economy back because he just inherited it when it hit rock bottom and president trump took it at a point where it was harder to add value there, yet he did. now the whole story, the whole narrative is being rewritten here? >> well, that is what we've seen democrats doing across the board. absolutely right. obama had an opportunity, threw his hands up. he basically said we'll have to have a magic wand and that doesn't exist. what you saw trump being able to come in, work with businesses, work on trade agreements, work on passing the tax cut jobs act which made that magic wand apparently didn't exist. those were things that made us more globally competitive. those things gave us the tools to small businesses to increase
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their footprint. to be more successful that led to higher, higher employment rates than we've ever seen across so many different demographics, that made our economy grow when it had been stagnant under the obama administration. i don't think if you talked to a vast number of people employed during the trump administration who had businesses under the trump administration, the last thing they want to do is go back to the obama era staffing staffingnant growth and -- jackie: if i may in the last 30 seconds we have i have want to touch on the point of taxes. there is conversation within the biden budget he will let the tax cuts implemented for lower and middle-class americans expire which essentially is a tax hike for those folks. those folks that he said he wouldn't touch in this? >> what we have heard over and over again from democrats is one thing. then we've seen another. if they can't, they can't exist under their own rules they will
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change them but, yeah, they're promising that they're not going to increase taxes for anybody who makes less than 400,000 but there is no way that can be with all the tax hikes that is anywhere near sustainable. it is not going to happen. he told you exactly what he was going to do during his campaigning and it has proven to be true. he is going with far leftist ideals, pushing a socialist agenda. it is not sustainable and everyone of us will be paying more. we're already doing it. we're doing it at the gas pump, the grocery store lines. jackie: we are. >> seeing it everywhere. thank you for bringing up the point on inflation. it is so interesting every time i pay for something i know i'm feeling it. congresswoman, it is always great to see you. we appreciate your insight. >> good to see you, thank you. jackie: up next, texas congressman brian babin is here with us to weigh in on the tensions rising in his state after state democrats staged a dramatic walkout to block a new voting bill. what governor abbott is threatening to do about it.
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>> this is not voter suppression. this was a strong voter bill but the democrats who now say they want congress to set the laws for states in elections, which we don't accept in texas, they just simply said we're walking out because we don't like the fact that we're going to lose this vote. unfortunately the speaker set that bill to come up on the floor four hours before the deadline, told them they could leave if they wanted. what did he think was going how great is it that we get to tell everybody how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? i mean it... uh-oh, sorry... oh... what? i'm an emu! no, buddy! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪ advil dual action fights pain 2 ways. it's the first and only fda approved combination of advil plus acetaminophen. advil targets pain. acetaminophen blocks it. advil dual action. fast pain relief that lasts 8 hours. ♪ ♪ ♪ common love isn't for us ♪
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jackie: texas lawmakers caught in a battle over a voting reform bill. texas governor greg abbott on monday threatening to cut the legislative pay for lawmakers and their staff after democrats walked out of the state capital on sunday, threatening passage after sweeping reform bill. the lags ditch effort to stop the vote may only temporarily stall it. with me texas congressman brian babin. good evening to you. this reminds me of the situation we saw in georgia. seems there is a misunderstanding what is in the bill. i would like to review some of this with you. on early voting the liberal narrative makes it difficult to vote early. the fact is. the bill generally requires early voting for nine hours per day, between 6:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m. let me read you one more. the liberal narrative that the
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bill prevents voting by merrill. the fact the bill allows voting by mail with new restrictions on unsolicited applications. what is wrong with that? >> there is nothing wrong with that. the fictions that you are mentioning are simply the same argument points that democrats have had now for a long time. this is of course on the state level. the state democrats have fled in the middle of the night to keep us from getting a quorum there in our statehouse of representatives. and simply just to keep us on the same path and not fix these voting problems that we've experienced. we had nightmares back in during november of last year. millions of americans felt like they had been disenfranchised. state governments were supposed to be the, state legislators were the only ones who were supposed to be able to change state law. judges couldn't do it.
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single statewide election officials, a governor, a, a secretary of state, they were not supposed to be able to do it. only the legislatures. and so this needs to be fixed. jackie: right. >> millions of americans felt like we had a irregular anomaly filled election in the last presidential election and many states are trying to fix this. texas is one of them. democrats are standing in the way. jackie: i'm really glad you brought this up because this is a conversation i reported on extensively and every time i do it the liberal media will go after me because i said that we had an election that was unprecedented before. we had a crisis on our hands. states had to do what they have to do. so we did that. but now if we're looking back, it doesn't mean because we implemented certain rules because of a pandemic that occurs once every 100 years that all those rules have to remain in place. it means that we have to go back to the system and tweak things a
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little. again i ask you what is wrong with that? >> jackie, you are right on the money. it is our right and our duty to make sure that our american electorate, the american people, feel like that they are enfranchised to cast votes and to choose our own leaders. that is the miracle of these american experiment. this is what our government, our democratic republic is all about so if we don't change the election process, people will sit home. we saw it in senate elections in georgia, the very states where these things happened in georgia, pennsylvania, other states, their legislatures are going back to trying to fix this thing and the state of texas is one of those to do this. unfortunately the democrats are playing partisanship and left.
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we haven't been able to get quorum. we see it on the federal level. hr-1. this is a democrat take over of the entire election process in our country. democrats in the various states want this implemented across the country. they don't want various states to make changes. jackie: it certainly would bolster their position and what you're saying makes a lot of sense. we could talk for hours about this. >> amen. jackie: we're out of time. great to see you tonight. >> thank you, jackie. god bless. jackie: god bless. coming up memorial day marked with deadly violence in many major american cities in the wake of the covid-19 pandemic. is this violence the new normal going forward? fox news contributor deroy murdock, he is here next. you're watching "the evening edit." >> we've got the take back our streets from the criminals. criminals are winning out here and it is all because of the
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today because it does still impact us today. we can't just choose to learn what we want to know and not what we should know. [applause] jackie: let's welcome fox news contributor deroy murdock. your reaction to that, good evening. >> good evening to you. i don't know -- don't know where to begin. joe biden says we shouldn't pretend these things didn't happen. i don't see anybody in america pretending we didn't have racism, that we didn't have slavery, that we didn't have jim crow, we didn't have this massacre. the question is are we focusing entirely exclusively on the terrible things that happened in this country or do something about the tremendous opportunity that face us, black, white, otherwise, all the tremendous progress we made no less having a brac man picked to be president of the united states. if it weren't for that joe biden picking to be vice president he would be trapped in the senate or down in his bunker in delaware with his grandkids. he seems not to focus on that. he focuses on all the negative
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part of american history, not the positive. certainly nothing about the very good situation we are in to go forward as a people. jackie: deroy, in the wake of george floyd and that tragic, his tragic death last year the conversation shifted in a way and we talked about defunding the police and you've seen that across the country this kind of movement. the call for defunding the police continues even as crime is skyrocketing. i live here in new york city where we have been devastated not only by the pandemic but also by quality of life issues that have to do with crime. your thoughts on what the answer is here? defunding police doesn't seem to be the answer? >> well, we heard about july of last year from congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. she said you know, what will life be like once we defund the police? she said it will be like a suburb, unquote. jackie: yeah, no. it doesn't feel like that. >> nothing like that at all. so we've seen here in new york
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city alone, we've seen homicides go up year on year about 24%. shooting incidents about 80%. rape is up, felony assaults. so not like a suburb at all. this shouldn't surprise anybody. those of us on the republican right said to people on the democrat left, look, if you defund the police, take away resources as we did here in new york city under mayor de blasio down 16% decrease in the budget for the nypd, you vilify these people, call them racists attack them, mock them, what will they do? they will recoil, much more cautious. criminals see this, they're doing the opposite. they're advancing, moving forward. we have blood in the streets as a consequence. a totally failed idea from the democrat left. jackie: let me ask you, multiple mass shootings. a child was shot in a road rage incident, so much violence across the country. we have to ask ourselves what is going on here. part of this may be it, could be ptsd, damage from the lockdowns. it feels like what, you know
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what we did in this country as a response to the coronavirus is now having an impact on everybody's you know, everybody's sort of feelings. like the pent-up aggression is coming out? >> well you know if that were the case i think you would see violence erupting in london, paris, rome, hong kong all around the world. this is was a global pandemic not just the united states. the only place you see crime shooting up in any significant sense is here in the u.s. tucker carlson did a excellent analysis on this week. he raised a question, the covid-19 struck the whole planet but the explosion of violence hitting the united states of america. the reason is, the left said, it will great, it will be like a suburb. look at the mayhem, murder, bloodshed that resulted. respect the police, give them resources they need. if they're bad cops correct them f they're good reward them. set them loose to go after
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dangerous people and murderers, lock them up, let them stay in jail, they're isolated and no threat to law-abiding decent american citizens. jackie: dough roy, deroy murdock you make a good point. great to see you. >> great to see you. jackie: more bombshells from hunter biden's laptop but why is the media ignoring it? former federal prosecutor jim trusty breaks down what this could mean for it means for the investigation into the president's son. >> when u.s. companies hire sons and daughters of high-ranking foreign government officials we investigate them. our justice department investigates those companies for foreign corrupt practices act violations. so there is no, there is no question, this is not politics here, there is no question, i think everybody understands this is sleazy behavior. the question is, is it going to the question is, is it going to result in criminal charges?
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jackie: more emails from hunter biden's laptop keep surfacing indicating then vice president bide met with hunter's business partners despite claims he had no knowledge of his son's dealings. adding more fuel to the accusations of hunter biden's influence pedaling overseas. you will not hear about this story in the mainstream media. they have been actually silent on it. joining me to discuss it more, former federal prosecutor jim trusty. i want to read you one of these emails from 2015 from the same laptop that hunter biden said he couldn't recall if it was from his laptop. 2015, the reason for the dinner ostensibly to discuss food security. dad will be there, but keep that between us for now. thanks. just won example. your thoughts? >> well, this laptop needs to be in the witness security program. there is so much important stuff
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on it. you know, that is really kind of the trend where we are with criminal investigations now. used to be when i was a prosecutor way back when we didn't have things like emails to look into. we didn't have people's laptops. this now is the trend where prosecutors center their case around the digital evidence. they start with what is in the emails what documents are in there. they look to corroborate it with financial records or personal testimony. there is an awful lot seems to be on this laptop you know, that the media might be not curious about but a good prosecutor a good investigator would be extremely interested in. jackie: but doesn't seem like anybody is interested in it. that is part of the problem, right, the media as well? actually when the feds raided the home of rudy giuliani he claims he had the hard drives with some of the information from hunter biden's laptop on it but they didn't want that stuff. they left it. they left it behind. >> well, might not have been within the scope of their search. they might have also had that
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information in their possession already. i don't necessarily fault them from rising to the bait of what rudy wants them to take but look, this is a situation where prosecutors and investigators are supposed to be quiet. we're not supposed to lose our nerve because they're quiet about what they're doing but the question, is it going to end with a whimmer or a bang? is this something where the department of justice will be politicized, looking like they came into it with a political outcome in mind or the last bastion of truth seeking and justice? clearly the media would not do it. the mainstream media with very few exceptions is intentionally disinterested. you can imagine if this was the trump family we were talking about what the headlines would be like. that institutuion essentially corrupted and failed, will not do its job in terms of being independent and aggressive, all eyes turn towards justice and criminal justice. we don't know yet this is a huge character test to see how the attorney general conducts himself.
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jackie: the "new york post" wrote an opinion piece about that, if the shoe were on the other foot, if this were the child of president trump the conversation would be completely different. jim trusty, thanks for making that point. great to see you. >> you too. jackie: just ahead the pressure is mounting on the biden administration over the migrant crisis but kamala harris, 70 days overseeing that crisis on the southern border. she reportedly is trying to distance herself even more. national border patrol council president chris cabrera coming up on "the evening edit." >> you have a rogue administration refusing to enforce the immigration laws that have been settled in the united states of america for decades. each one of these immigration laws that protects our southern border, it has been passed by the house of representatives, duly-elected congressman. it has been passed by united states senators, duly-elected senators, signed in laws by presidents of the united states. and for this department of
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immigrants were packed inside a big rig at a border checkpoint yesterday, just another example of the crisis at our border. secretary of state blinken traveling to costa' can ca today as critics say the biden administration isn't doing nearly enough here. that's an understatement. this as vice president harris is reportedly trying to distance herself from biden's border crisis. joining me now is national border patrol council vice president chris cabrera. chris, good evening to you. part of the reason that kamala harris is not addressing the crisis, not going down to the border is because the administration really doesn't see this as a crisis. they just want this to be the norm of our process, correct? >> yes, you're absolutely correct. and part of understanding -- part of fixing the problem is understanding the problem. and in order to understand it, they have to get down here and take a look for themselves.
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we have people suffering every day that are making this trip. some of them don't make it. it's the heartbreaking to see what we see on a daily basis, and for some reason they're turning a blind eye to it. jackie: well, one of the theories is that the blind eye is being turned because, as you allow people to come into this country illegally, you are stacking the deck in a different way at the voting booth, and that's what this administration and many liberals want. >> yeah, you know, the problem with that, i mean, is i don't think anybody can actually predict that these people are going to become u.s. citizens or how they're going to vote. and in the meantime, to me, i think that speaks volumes for the situation that we're in. these folk it is are being used as pawns in a political chess match. and in the meantime, you know, real people are suffering from this because people cannot put their politics aside. jackie: real people are suffering. there's a human tragedy, as you mentioned. the problems with people having
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trouble making this treacherous journey, that's number one. the second issue is that law enforcement in the united states has been completely overwhelmed. >> yeah. i think overwhelmed is an understatement. you look at the fact that we have people that obviously we're not catching everybody that's coming in, far from it, and we don't know who these people are, and some that we do catch are some pretty dangerous criminals. i think what folks in america need to understand is that the folks that come across, very rarely do they stay in this area. the majority, 95, 98, 99% are traveling elsewhere to the united states, so it's more of a problem for the rest of the country than it is for the border regions. jackie: and president trump's solution was the stay in mexico which was while your case can pending and you're waiting for your court date, you wait at home. you don't wait here. what's wrong with that? >> there's nothing wrong with it, and it worked wonderfully. we would still have people
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coming across, but those are the ones that are always going to try and avoid detection. those are still coming across like you mentioned with that 18 wheeler with all those people in the back, and then you have the drugs coming across, and now our hands are being tied dealing with the family groups that are exploiting the lax policies. jackie: you talk about the drugs. there's a lot of conversation about the coyotes, the millions and millions of dollars of profit that certain groups are getting from this lax policy, and none of it is coming into our pocket in the united states. >> no, it's all going back into the cartel's pocket back in mexico. and meanwhile, it's destroying communities here in the united states with the opioid problems we have in certain parts of the country, meth. you name it, it's coming through here, and it's a shame that, you know, in the meantime we're just going to turn a blind eye to it because somebody had some political motives. jackie: you know, i wonder as we
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let this process play out, is there a tipping point? is there a point even if vice president harris doesn't go down to the border and witness it herself, does it get so bad that the administration is forced to do something, or, you know, is it possible to just put your head in the sand, act like an ostrich and act it's not happening? >> one would think that tipping point probably would have been two or three months ago. i've been an agent almost 20 years now, and i've never seen it this busy, not even close to this. the odd part is usually with the surges we have and the border crossings, it's usually one area or another, and what we're seeing now is from brownsville to san diego. it's constant, people are coming across everywhere. jackie: and the reason is that the messaging changed, right? when the biden administration came in, they reversed the trump policy on remain in mexico and essentially gave the message that we're open for business which is why you're seeing the
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flood. real quick, right? >> yeah. and that's what's happening. in the meantime, we're having young kids 6, 7, 5 years old that are traveling by themselves, making this journey by themselves, and bad things happen. jackie: it's dangerous. >> yeah, it's very dangerous. jackie: chris, we're out of time. thank you so much. good to see you tonight. >> thank you for having me. jackie: i'm jackie ea deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald, we'll see you tomorrow. ♪ larry: hello, everyone. welcome back to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. so late last friday afternoon -- that is, late friday afternoon of the long memorial day weekend -- basically no one was looking, president biden finally put out his budget. now, that's when you drop bad news on the media world, on a long weekend, on friday night. you wait until the close of business, and then you head for the hills. to there was minimal coverage. and what coverage

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