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order of police, joe gimaldi. former dhs oversight counsel mike howell. tonight the latest move by president bide just put the final nail in the coffin of american energy independence. we're going to talk about what it means for national security and your wallet. dr. fauci accused of profiting from the pandemic after he announced his new book. plus, the newly-released emails that go back to the start of the pandemic and raise some more questions about how our beloved dr. fauci handled it. plus violence and crime leading the nation from fights on the street, to mass shootings, ambush-style attacks on police officers. what is causing all of this violence on our streets and how do we stop it. then, this heartwrenching video. a five-year-old boy screaming and crying after being left at the border by smugglers.

the crisis is growing and the president, well, he wants to make it worse by ending the trump era remain in mexico policy. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. jackie: first our pipelines, now our food. two cyberattacks in less than a month allegedly by sigher hackers. now transportation as well, with hackers with suspected ties to china breached new york's mta. we have retired four-star general jack keane. start here, general with the cyberattacks linked with russia with the colonial pipeline. now we talk about our food system. this is a lot to happen in a very short period of time. what's next? >> to put this in context, so our audience really understands

what is taking place here, russia, china, our adversaries out here who have cyber capability, north korea has one, also iran but right here with russia and china they're conducting massive cyber warfare as an instrument for national power. for what end? simply to disrupt and undermine western democracies with a particular focus on the united states. this is a major, major instrument of power that they are using and they continue to use it because by and large with some exceptions they get away with it. so let's deal with russia. what they're doing here, there are three means that they have. they use government hackers that work for their military intelligence unit, the gru, and also for their fsb, which is the equivalent to our cia and secondly they also hire criminal hackers, criminal cyber hackers as they did in hiring alexi

balin, who was indicted by our fbi because he, back in 2017, hacked into yahoo!'s database and captured over 500 million email accounts. so that is a cyber criminal hired by a government agency in russia to conduct an attack on the united states and others. the third way they do it is what we're seeing here, with the pipeline attack and meat distribution attack. that is, cyber criminal active. is widespread in russia. russia is very much aware of it. they tolerate it. they authorize it although they may not direct it, they don't pull the trigger but they certainly know what is going on because it supports their over all objective, which is undermining the united states confidence in our institutions that is exactly what is taking place and this is a national security issue and it deserves a lot of attention and we should

talk about what we should do about it. jackie: general, i want to stop you there because that is an excellent point. president biden was asked about this specifically today. here is what he had to say. i want you to watch this and react. reporter: mr. president, will you retaliate against russia for this latest ransomware attack? >> we'll look closely at that. reporter: do you think putin is testing you? >> no. [reporters shouting questions] jackie: general, that is what we're hearing from the president. >> well, characterize that i think it's a pretty inadequate response. certainly biden, i mean certainly putin is testing biden as he did for every other president whether they're democrats or republicans. that is not so much the issue but the other response is is misguided. here is what i'm saying. here is what we should be doing about this, this should be a part of a whole of government

cyber campaign folded into our national security strategy to counter these attacks. first things we should do is attacks them ourselves with our cyber capability. we did that in 2018 around 2020 elections with success. that should be going on now if it hasn't already started. the second thing is, the pipeline who you mentioned, jackie, that attack is a serious attack on our critical infrastructure. that is a result of that attack we should have sanctioned russia very significantly in the industry where it going to matter to them, that is their gas and oil industry because they're a single commodity industry. and then the third thing is because a lot of this is in the private sector i think it is high time the congress pass some legislation dealing with this issue so it incentivizes the private sector, not only to have some of the best ip systems in the world which many of our private sector companies have because it is how they make money using the efficiency of

those systems but to harden their defenses because many companies do not want to pay for that because it takes away from a the top line. you need to get the government involved. jackie: general, i think a lot of people would agree with you, and your approach to this but they look at this administration saying they're really not doing anything about it, not to your knowledge and they certainly don't want to go on the offensive any way here? >> you're absolutely right, jackie. we're literally rolling over. we're not connecting the dots. our intelligence services are certainly telling the president that we russia may not have pulled the trigger on this meat distribution or colonial pipeline themselves but they are sanctioning it, they're tolerating it, they're welcoming it, we should hold them accountable. it makes no sense to walk away. what will happen, they will keep coming on and doing. this we have to recognize this is major cyber warfare conducted

by our adversaries to undermine american institutions and the peoples' confidence in it. that is a significant national security strategy and we have to push and fight back. >> general jack keane, we look at the cyber warfare, it is the warfare of the future. if we're not ready to combat or offensive about it we'll be in a lot of trouble. general, thank you, so much for your insight tonight. >> that was well-said. thank you. jackie: sure. bring in our next guest, former labor secretary nominee andy puzder. most of the meat processing plants are expected to be operational as of today, andy, but this other attack we're talking about in less than a month after the colonial pipeline allegedly by russian hackers, it is a time when we have supply chain shortages because of the pandemic and we're seeing inflation every time we go to the grocery store as it is, it is really tough when these hacks impact you know, our infrastructure to a

certain degree. then it impacts the consumer as well? >> these are very well-timed, going after the beef supply lines. these supply lines in the plants right after memorial day when everybody did their grilling with pork and beef and hitting jbs, that was the right target. they do 23% of the united states beef, they do 18% of pork. if those plants had stayed shutdown it would have a material impact on restaurants already short of chicken, already short of employees trying to come out of the pandemic. you have to wonder after solarwinds after the colonial pipeline, how deep did the russians get into our nation's enterprise recovery systems, erp systems? and looks like they got more than we thought they got. we need, somebody needs to stand up to the russians, to let them know look, enough is enough. jackie: do you think it will be this president because it doesn't appear that it will be? >> i think if, if our last

president were still president i don't think this would have happened. jackie: i agree. >> to say he is not being tested was just, i can't believe that he believes he is not being tested. if he doesn't think this is a test i don't know what he thinks would be a test. they're coming after us and we need to do something. jackie: the two administrations were night and day with respect to their approach to our enemies, whether it's china, whether it's russia, whether it's iran. it is amazing to me. north korea. the leaders look to president trump and quite frankly they knew that he meant it if he said he was drawing red line. if you look back to president obama, the red lines were crossed left, right, center. the anticipation is the same way with joe biden. when you look at these attacks they go after our energy infrastructure. they go after the food supply, in the case of new york localely here it is the transportation system. this is very dangerous. >> and very effective. look, these people are smart.

they're hitting the right spots. they're hitting them at the right times and weed into to have a meaningful response. general keane stated it as well. we need to go after them. if they come after us with these issues we need to go after them. he needs to call vladmir putin. the press was all over president trump that he was in putin's pocket. that is baloney. we did more sanctioning under president trump. it wasn't true. we have a president who refuses to take definitive action against the russians when they engage in this activity. the press acts like he is a big anti-putin guy. i think he is afraid of putin. i hope he is not but looks like he is. jackie: this summit this month. he is not canceling it. many people are looking at that, biden going to this summit basically legitimatizes putin to his own country. at the same time, it is sort of makes biden look weak to us and then you wonder, you and me as

the average american citizen who are vulnerable to the impacts of cyberattacks, for example, where do we stand? >> well, you know, not very high. this is, you know we need to get that america first agenda back in place. we need to start looking at these other countries and acting like we're an independent country that wants to stand up for people who live in this country, to stand up for our citizens, to stand up for our nation as a whole and stop attacking ourselves internally. stop encouraging people to attack us internally and stand up to the people attacking us from outside. i hope president biden steps up. this is our president and we need to hope that he stands up. i'm not encouraged so far but i remain hopeful. jackie: hopeful is always a good thing. andy puzder, great to see you. >> you too, jackie. jackie: still on the show, the latest move by president biden that might have put the nail in the coffin of american energy independence and a hole in your

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what we see today we're importing two million barrels more today than we were the day that joe biden took office because of disasterous policies. we see this time last year, memorial weekend, we saw gas prices averaging around 1.90. right now we're seeing gas prices average well over $3 a gallon now. at the cost of thousands and thousands of american jobs. it is disasterous this policy that he continues to go down. what does he expect the american people to do? he is trying to tax fossil fuel out of the existence and it doesn't work. jackie: i covered energy for a long time. i dig in every week, look at how much we are producing as a nation. we weres largest producer in the world. every week i see that go down as you're talking about importing more from the middle east. this is the perfect scenario for opec and some of our foes overseas. >> absolutely. jackie: this is what president

trump tried to undo, he successfully undid. why would this president want to reverse it all? >> you know, vice president harris is from california, that has this same exact policy they're forcing on the american people n california is the number one import of all 50 states, number one import of foreign oil. for some reason he is following kamala harris, he is following vice president harris' path trying to regulate us like california. and why? because he is bending towards the environmentalists. everybody that has ever studied renewable energy knows that it is not sustainable. we can't run america's energy on renewables only and energy is the back blood of our, the backbone of our economy. when you start think about energy itself, it is the backbone of every country's economy. when we were moving towards energy independence, we were well in our way. we were the number one exporter of lng. we were putting pressure on

russia and europe because of terminals of lng exports going in there. people would better do business with us. a country friendly to other countries brings global stabilization. unlike russia will turn off the gas literally like with ukraine. it is mind blowing to me why president biden is bending, literally bending towards the environmentalists and costing the economy of the american people. jackie: so let's remind the viewers, summing up what you said, we've got a huge national security interest in this. we also have a an economic agenda here at home to keep people employed. the energy industry does that with high-paying jobs i might add. >> very high paying. >> prices at pump, you see them going up, up, averaging over $3 a gallon. it's a tax on consumers. i can't say that enough. then, mark wayne, you have the administration and feds saying no, no, there is no inflation. there is no inflation here.

>> it is hyperinflation at this point from building costs talk about a piece of plywood. it was last year that it was $8 a sheet. now it is nearly $40 a sheet. you see, you see grocery prices going through the roof. you see lumber going through the roof. you see gas prices literally up 150% in most areas. that is hyperinflation. that is not just inflation, it is hyperinflation. it will come to roost at some point yet this administration is turning a blind eye to it. energy is the lifeblood of our economy. it is the backbone of our economy and all economies. we are just literally succeeding this. one advantage we have over china is that we have natural resources. china doesn't have that ability. that is why they have to stay cozy to iran and russia. we don't have to do that. we can be totally 100% energy independent but what you're seeing with what biden did in alaska, by canceling the permits up there, you see what he is

canceling permits on public lands all across the united states, which is going to cost an average of a million jobs. the keystone pipeline, 11,000 jobs. i can't, i can't understand what they're actually looking at. who is advising this administration? because they're destroying our economy. jackie: mark wayne, we not only had the resources we tapped into the technology to further extract those resources. it was revolutionary and it is all being undone. to your point about hyperinflation, they're saying well, it is transitory. just don't worry about it for now. so i mean that is what they're telling the consumer. >> but when it comes, when it comes time to catch up with hyperinflation, the economy is going to crash and then we're not going have the energy resources that we've had to depend on to be able to boost up or stablize our economy because he is literally regulated us out. i know what they're trying to do. what they're trying to do is run the cost fossil fuels up so

high -- jackie: we can't use it anymore. actually you make rye renewables look competitive even though they are competent sense i have. it be a while before we can phase them in. thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me on. i appreciate it. jackie: coming up congresswoman nancy mace will weigh in with us whether there is any good faith negotiation with infrastructure after president biden met with a top gop senator today. plus who is biden now blaming for his stalled agenda? stay with us.

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$1.7 trillion infrastructure package is have one of the who highest tax hikes on the american people to pay for it. we're seeing senate republicans, republicans in the house put forth alternative packages. we're seeing it come together. senator capito met with the president today. we're all working hard. we want a bipartisan bill coming out of here but as you said rightly so earlier, but there are progressives like they did in the covid-19 package. biden's budget came out in the afternoon on a holiday weekend. this is painful to watch but we can do much better. the trillion dollar package, they want to spend unspent covid relief funds that would not raise taxes on the american people. that is a smart play. jackie: people on the left, we don't want compromise. we want everything we're something for, almost like a heed heed done necessaritic

approach. even though that is what the president promised and ran on, use a budget resolution and push it through. >> we herd a lot in january particularly after the 6th, being bipartisan and unified. when they did the latest covid relief package, that $1.9 trillion, they did it via budget reconciliation. not a single amendment from republicans proposed no matter how northern northern partisan they were i put several non-partisan in nature they shot them down. the entire budget, including the infrastructure package, half which includes green new deal, school lunches, environmental justice, social justice, things have nothing to do with the roads and bridges. the last package the biden administration put forth, 1.trillion dollar figure, they took away and reduced surface

transportation for our roads, potholes, for bridges all of us sit in traffic every single day. jackie: congresswoman, you look at this kind of spending, i'm a student of the markets, we're talking about inflation every day. people feel the pain at the pump. feeling it at the grocery store. the expectation if we continue with the spending plans it will just get worse. >> it will. absolutely i agree. i think biden's presidency reminds me a lot of jimmy cart ear es presidency with the advent, inflation that is starting now. groceries are up 21%. gas prices are up over 50 cents a barrel for folks filling up at the pump. lumber is up 381%. we have a 3 trillion-dollar deficit. we have a 28 trillion-dollar debt and counting. he put forth a proposal on friday for another $6 trillion in spending. if he has to raise taxes to pay for all of this on top of it, who will be left holding the bag? that is on back of small

businesses, hard-working americans will not offer more jobs at higher wages. there will be fewer jobs at lower wages. there will be exodus of jobs to countries overseas. jackie: biden appears to blame real quick on joe manchin and krysten sinema for blocking his agenda items. your thoughts? >> he is finished speech yesterday on the 100th anniversary of the tulsa massacre talking about, criticizing senators joe manchin and krysten sinema who happened to speak out against their own party. we should have the ability, regardless of your party in this country to debate ideas, have opposing views, not be attacked. they don't want crazy spending that we're seeing now. i respect their position t should be respected by everybody. i'm proud of their work standing up to the leadership in their own party. it is rare. jackie: congresswoman nancy mace, great to see you. >> thank you. jackie: former white house chief of staff mark meadows, he is

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announced a month-long effort to reach his goal of getting 70% of adult americans at least one covid vaccine shot by the 4th of july. he is also ordered a review of how the pandemic started and now we're getting some rare insights into the early days of the pandemic after newly-released emails linked to dr. anthony fauci have come out. among the revelations, his correspondence with a key figure linked to the wuhan lab. reports show that a lead researcher personally thanked dr. fauci for downplaying the covid lab leak theory early on. it comes as many major news outlets are now acknowledging that they originally dismissed that possibility. now of course critics accusing fauci of profiting off of the pandemic as well with this new book deal following in the footsteps of new york governor andrew cuomo who also released a leadership lessons book during the pandemic. joining us now, former

congressman and white house chief of staff for president trump mark meadows. good evening to you, mark. let's go ahead and start with this issue of funding, right? dr. fauci admits there was some modest funding. we're talking about roughly $600,000 but he said it was not for gain of function research. how can he be so sure? >> well he can't be so sure because i can tell you that the gain of function rhetoric has only recently appeared in our vocabulary when dr. fauci was being questioned by senator rand paul and what you start to see is they're all out trying to shape a narrative that really didn't exist back in april and may of 2020. i can tell you when president trump found out that we were funding the wuhan lab with the american taxpayer dollars his response was immediate and very declaratory. he said let's stop the funding. they shouldn't be getting any

money from america. yet what we saw at that particular time was dr. fauci just poo-pooing the idea that there could be anything to this leak from the lab. i think the facts will bear it out we should not only investigate it further but make sure that dr. fauci and his new book is a little bit more transparent than he has been over the last year. jackie: there is a lot to get to there. let's unpack this piece by piece and talk about about the early dismissal if you will of the theory that the coronavirus could have looked from the wuhan lab. obviously the trump administration thought there was a possibility much that, would have probably investigated it sooner rather than later but let me read you this email from the researcher thanking dr. fauci. listen to this. quote, i just wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of our staff and collaborators for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence supports a natural origin for covid-19 from a bat to human spillover, not a lab release from the wuhan institute of

virology. from my perspective your comments are brave and coming from your trusted voice will help dispel the myths being spun around the virus' origins. your reaction to that? >> well obviously he is getting applauded from a chinese counterpart. this was really not only the troubling part of that email but the other part of is that dr. fauci didn't look at any evidence. it is very obvious now, it was obvious to us then that his statements were being made based on what he believed to be the fact instead of actually looking at any evidence. so it should have been a red flag that went up very high in the air he starts getting applaud by the chinese government, indeed this china chinese colleague of his, a statement at best speculation on his part. jackie: mark, let's talk about the book for a second. we have a picture on the full

screen. this is dr. fauci's book he wrote during the pandemic. wow he must have had time to write a book. expect the unexpected, dr. anthony fauci. down there lessons of truth. he sort of changed his story of the pandemic during a bunch times. first wear a mask. don't wear a mask. wear two masks. we waited for the vaccine come out. we waited for him to tell us not to wear a mask. the whole thing was kind of crazy yet he is pedaling an agenda of truth here. >> listen, when you profit off of this pandemic by writing a book and dr. fauci is one of the highest paid federal employees that we have, i just think that perhaps the title of the book shall be, should be foul ball because it is really not the appropriate place to bring this in, to talk about truth. especially in light of some of the contradictory opinions we've seen from dr. fauci. i've often said the only thing

consistent about dr. fauci is his inconsistency. so we need to look at this. i hope it doesn't hit the new york best-seller's list. i can tell you at this point other books should come out, will come out, hopefully will give the real transparent truth about the matter instead of commentary from dr. fauci. jackie: yeah of course governor cuomo wrote his book too. there were a lot of new yorkers in new york city and throughout the united states found it offensive to be honest. >> of course they found it offensive. he was writing a book when he should have been dealing with a pandemic. he was writing a book that gave a false narrative of what was actually happening, trying to call him a hero on the way he handled it. you know, it is just, it is beyond hypocritical. jackie: we won't talk about what was happening in the nursing homes when he was writing that book.

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♪. jackie: dramatic bodycam footage from a san jose rail yard shooting has been released showing police officers racing into a building after a gunman killed nine of his coworkers. this after a memorial day weekend filled with violence and crime across this country. the national fraternal order of police warning about a sharp increase in ambush-style attacks on police officers. 128 police officers have been shot so far this year.

there have also been 27 ambush-style attacks on officers. that is a 50% increase compared to last year. is the defund the police movement, bail reform, covid impact, are all of these to blame for this rise in attacks on officers, high crime and mass shootings? joining us now, the national vice president for the fraternal order of police, joe grimaldi. joe, good evening to you. i will pose that question to you. defund the police certainly can't be helping this situation? >> no, it is certainly not. the defunding the police movement, frankly the attacks on law enforcement in the last several years have had dire consequences, not only for police officers but for our communities as a whole. we have had 128 police officers shot in 2021. that is a 30% increase from 2018 and a 9% increase from 2020, which was historic numbers of officers being shot. what we're seeing in our communities is skyrocketing

homicide rates the likes of which we haven't seen since the 1990s. portland murders are up 800%. philly, 40%. new york, 22%. minneapolis, 56%. the list goes on and on. doesn't seem any end in sight but people are continuing to push the defunding the police. it is not a rational or logical policy position to have, frankly we need to start asking people, what are your real motivations or are you just frankly insane? because no sane person would be pushing this? every time you hear a politician they support defunding the police, but also support black and brown communities. they're a charlatan and selling you snake oil. nobody is harmed more than our black and brown communities because they are victims of those homicides. jackie: you bring up a very good point. defund police came in the wake of the george floyd killing. so many people asked, why go this route which increases crime

and creates a messier situation rather than looking at reforming the system? >> you know, honestly us at the fop, we are always welcome to have a discussion about how to better our profession but we're going to have a fact based discussion. the fact of the matter is like you saw in the san jose video, our officers go out there, every single day putting our lives on the line for our community, willing to risk our lives, running into gunfire while others run away. i can't tell you why the politicians are doing this, only because it must be a motivation for them they feel like they can hop on the back of the defund the police movement, they will seem like they're heroes, really all they're doing is harming their communities? jackie: joe, it is funny because the "new york post" wrote an article about crime in the city. it talked about the rain over the weekend. that is one of the reasons criminals had to stay inside. when you're relying on mother nature to help police, i mean, god help you.

we are out of time. i appreciate your conversation tonight. thank you. >> thanks for having me on. jackie: just ahead on the show, the heartwrenching video of a 5-year-old boy screaming and crying being left at the border by smugglers. the growing crisis just as president biden moves to worsen the disaster at the border by ending the trump era remain in mexico policies. we have former dhs oversight counsel, heritage senior advisor mike howell next. >> the men and women of the border patrol are the only piece of humanity on the border. biden policies say that this is humane. children dropped over the wall. children abandoned on ranches. it is the most inhumane policy i've seen in my 35 years. thank god for the men and women of green standing on the front lives. they saved over 4,000 lives last year. ♪. ♪

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jackie: the little boy screaming and crying for help. those screams are what actually led border patrol agents to find him. this is the latest in a string of videos showing children, babies left by coyotes, highlighting the crisis at our border that continues to get worse. today a bipartisan congressional delegation toured the southern border, but vice president kamala harris, the biden administration, are still nowhere to be found. and president biden just ended former president trump's remain in mexico policy. joining us now is former dhs oversight counsel mike howell. mike, good evening to you. you saw that video, you heard that child screaming in pain of being abandoned. why the administration turning a blind eye to this? >> well, first off, that video

is absolutely heartbreaking. and, unfortunately, we know that toss the norm -- to be the norm and not the exception. this is how the cartels work. the administration created this crisis. they did this purposefully. they came in day one of the administration with a plan to undo every trump era border and immigration, you know, thing that they possibly could. but what they also did is created a special exception for underaged youth coming to the border coming to the country. they know it is their ticket into the country. unfortunately, it's not going to get better before it gets worse. the administration's doubling down. jackie: right. >> currently before the senate is a slate of senior nominees for the department of homeland security, all who were the ones who designed these policies in the first place. they should not be confirmed. jackie: when it comes to president trump's remain in mexico policy being overturned, the administration is essentially saying we are open

for business. you can come here. when they're saying to the american public, oh, no, no, no, that's not the messaging. >> right. it's -- that's the chaos, and it makes no sense. any reasonable person understands you should not be able to enter the country illegally. if you have a claim, your claim should be heard. if it is adjudicated you should come in, then you come in. when it was implemented under the trump administration, it worked because people with fraudulent claims and claims that wouldn't pass muster knew it wasn't worth it, their claims would be denied. they got rid of it simply because it worked. they want as many illegal aliens in this country as possible because they think it helps them win elections. they do not care about the video of a 5-year-old crying or the people who die or are sexualingly abused along the way. what they care about is votes, votes, votes, and it's a horrendous way to run a country, and i'm deeply ashamed of this white house for how they're

handling it. jackie: mike a lot of the conversations i have with people about this and kamala harris being tasked with trying to solve the crisis at the border, but she's not really doing anything about it, she's actually, it seems, trying to distance herself from it, it's almost like i'll hide in the basement with joe, and this will go away. or won't go away, and that's okay too. >> you're absolutely right. kamala harris wants nothing to do with this job at all. i don't think she had any idea it was getting passed to her. but you know what? she's the vice president right now. she has a responsibility to this country to enforce our laws and make sure that our country's safe and, by the way, that there's not a massive humanitarian crisis with untold human damage unfolding. she thinks it hurts her politics. i say it's the mark of a really failed leader, and she's a failed vice president right now for not stepping up to the plate. jackie: wow. if we don't hold her feet to the fire, if the american public doesn't, history certainly will.

mike howell, thank you so much for your time tonight. always a pleasure to see you. >> thanks for having me, jackie. jackie: all right, everybody. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. thank so much for watching, and have a wonderful evening. ♪ ♪ larry: hello, everyone. welcome back to "kudlow." i'm larry kudlow. president biden meeting with west virginia senator shelley moore capito earlier today to continue negotiations on an infrastructure package. fox news' peter doocy is life live at the white house with the latest. what'd you find out, peter? >> reporter: the very latest is that after a little less than one hour with the president, shelley moore capito's meeting has concluded. we are waiting for details from