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that he feared it would, quote, up a can of worms. joining us tonight, jason chaffetz, congresswoman kat cammack. monica crowley, steve moore, former state department senior advisor on antiterrorism, morgan write, kristin tate, chris bedford and arizona attorney general mark brnovich. tonight president biden proposed a 6 trillion-dollar budget on top of the massive spending free he has been on since taking office. critics warn someone has to pay for all of this. it could be a burden own the middle class, yes, the middle class, the ones president biden said he wouldn't tax. does? open up new doors for republicans in 2022? we'll discuss. just today the department of justice announcing elevating investigations into ransomware attacks to a similar priority as terrorism but what took so long? there have been attacks on our fuel, food, infrastructure,

experts fear this may just be the beginning. just when you thought you heard the last of hunter biden's infamous laptop, well another bombshell dropped. the former stripper and now mother to his child who by the way hunter biden claims he has no recollection of meeting was reportedly on his consulting firm's payroll. plus taxpayers on the hook? guess who will be footing the bill for governor andrew cuomo's legal fees? new yorkers. and more heartbreaking video from the border. exclusive footage of migrants nearly drowning trying to cross into texas. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. jackie: welcome, everybody. another blow to dr. fauci's credibility. an explosive newly-revealed emails showing that fauci didn't

tell the truth, pardon me, didn't tell president trump everything he now h knew about the possibility of the wuhan lab, partly funded by his own institute. that it might be the source of the pandemic. watch dr. fauci just this morning change his tune once again. >> the most likely origin is the jumping of species. i still do think it is at the same time as i'm keeping an open mind that it might be a lab leak. obviously you want openness and cooperation. one of the ways you can get it is don't be accuser to. jackie: welcome fox news contributor to jason chaffetz. always good to see you. good to see you. he is flip-flopping here more than a politician. >> flip-flopping? he is jumping from lily pad to lily pad. he can't decide what in the world he is going to do. to suggest the way to deal with the chinese government is to do

it the way he, that is not his job! his job was to be the chief scientist and be able to share that information with the decisionmakers like president donald trump to make the best decisions about how to suppress this virus but if you don't provide the president and the public the information so they can make informed decisions, shame on you. i think dr. fauci should be fired. i think he should be let go. at the very least they should suspend him while this cloud of suspicion hangs over his head. jackie: jason, he keeps talking about this issue that the nih provided this funding, yes, but it wasn't for gain of function research. what is that? that is research, when you basically take an animal virus and make it, mutate it so it can infect humans. that is what gain of function research is. listen to dr. fauci being very snarky in an exchange here with rand paul about this issue. listen. >> dr. fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan?

>> senator, paul, with all due respect you're entirely and completely incorrect. that the nih has not ever, and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> do they fund dr. barrick. >> we do not fund -- >> do you fund dr. barrick's gain of function research? >> bear rare rhett is not doing gain of function research. if it is, it is according to the guidelines and it is being conducted in north carolina, not in china. >> you don't think. jackie: jason i was particularly struck by this on may 11th. that is why we played that sound bite tonight. you sit there and watch dr. fauci. we gave them this money. he does not know it wasn't use in the a specific way or not. he has no idea once the check is written what happens. >> well that's the whole point.

it shows rand paul was three steps ahead of dr. fauci and does understand how this works. these are people that are supposed to be able to how track how a virus mutates and moves but can't seem to follow the money trail? when you give out a grant and fund specific person until or certain organizations i a duty to figure out what they are doing with it. jackie: yes. >> i think the truth is not on the side of dr. fauci here. he has time to write books. he has time to do "vanity fair" interviews. he didn't have time to actually do the science. that is why he needs to be dismissed sooner rather than later. jackie: you said something very important. you raised the word, you said the word, duty, when it comes to dr. fauci but there is also a duty, you know a negligence issue if you will here when it comes to china and how it handled the virus. let's rewine and go back in our mind's eye, march of 2020 when things were getting really bad. we knew lockdowns were coming in the united states and it was

chaotic. that was the time china said, okay we'll lock down wuhan. we'll lock down our country. nobody is coming in but you can go out and spread this virus across the globe essentially. at this point it has killed 600,000 americans, 3:00 1/2 million people worldwide. people want an investigation, they want to know was there negligence here? that is a very important question. >> yes. they are ultimately responsible. i was scared to death when it first happened. you saw the rapid deployment and building of hospitals. they were put, barbed-wire or chains, whatever you want to call it, bars on the windows of the hospitals but they were still letting people out. remember it was donald trump that was actually going out to the public saying hey, we have to slow down the travel only to have nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and joe biden and everybody saying oh, you're racist and everything else. come to chinatown. they were providing all the wrong solutions.

bill de blasio, saying come ride on the subways. they were prescribing all the wrong solutions but ultimately it is china and they did not share the proper information. they were not candid with the investigators. you cannot trust the world health organization who, who is basically been in the financial pocket of china all along. jackie: jason, last point here, this is how i see it, it is almost like a cold case when you're investigating the murder or something, the more time that passes the harder it becomes to find out exactly what happened, find out the victim, whatever the case may be, as the trail gets colder and colder. it feels like what happened with respect to the wuhan lab here. this is over a year later. china is not giving us access. if they gave us access do you think there would be any evidence left anyway? >> shame on the national media, shame on the social media giants out there that suppressed the idea. didn't even want to investigate. didn't even think it was plausible because donald trump suggested might be out there.

we have the world's greatest intelligence agencies on the face of the planet. when the president said this, he wasn't making it up. so that was a huge inflection point where the world slowed down looking at this possibility. you want to do that so it never ever happens again. but you know, because donald trump said it, they turned off, any sort of, any sort of intellectual curiosity to find out if it was true. it probably is true. jackie: you bring up the great point about social media and how they shut the conversation down. they did not allow that to be part of the discourse. which is something we do in this country. we have discourse with each other, to try to get to the bottom of things. that is a huge responsibility on the shoulder of social media when we finally do get to the bottom of it. jason, great to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. jackie: all right. for more on this i want to bring in florida congresswoman kat cammack. she is on the house homeland security committee. congresswoman, wonderful to see you tonight.

an internal state department memo warns leaders not to investigate covid origins because it could quote, open a can of worms. your thoughts tonight? >> i mean can you imagine in private industry if a ceo or a high level executive had sent a moment memo like that and had had gotten leaked the blow back they would receive? that is what people hate about government, rules for me, not for thee. when you have state department officials saying it would open up a can of worms, tell that to people that lost family members and loved ones because of the virus. you talk about the coverup, hypocrisy, dr. fauci said in the emails, the masks don't work. hey if we get to a zero or to a one, that this epidemic will resolve itself without a vaccine. meanwhile he has got time to go on "vanity fair" and be on covers of magazines and write

books? give me a break. we need a can of worms right now. the american people deserve the truth and they need transparency and need transparency to know exactly where their taxpayer dollars have gone in the midst of this debacle of the so-called covid pandemic response. more than ever we need people willing to open up the can of worms and go toe-to-toe in bratsfaolis with bureaucrats all over washington, d.c. jackie: people want accountability to know this will never happen again. it was a crisis unlike anything we've ever seen before. to look at those emails, to see dr. fauci, we trusted, see spite the fact he flip-flopped on issues like masks and other things as we were going through this he was trying to persuade to president trump there wasn't a lab leak. why do you think he would do that? >> you know i think the answers to that questions lie in the emails themselves. he had an incredible amount of

communication with chinese nationals that was very, very collegial if you will. he really has strong ties and relationships to the scientific community in mainland china. we know there were taxpayer dollars have gone to fund research in labs in mainland china. in my home town of gainesville, at the university of florida there has been taxpayer-funded research from chinese nationals adjunct professors, taken the research given it to the ccp under the guise of 1000 talents programs. we know he is complicit in these relationships. so of course he is going to downplay the fact that the w.h.o. and the chinese government have been complicit in manipulating the data from the word go because they knew that if they were honest and transparent about this from the outset, that it would have completely changed the dynamic and world view of china. now we're starting to uncover these layers. we understand he is complicit in covering for his buddies in

china. now more than ever, time to fire fauci, hold him accountable for his roll in covering up the covid pandemic origins sky will leave you with final chilling thought coming from state media in china. the editor of "the times" there, prepare for an intense showdown between china and the united states and unfortunately that could be where this is going. congresswoman, thank you very much. nice to see you. >> thank you so much. have a good one. jackie: still ahead on the show, monica crowley, steve moore will be on with me to weigh in who will fit the bill for president biden's massive spending spree. labor shortages nationwide, what it could mean for republicans in 2022. you're watching "the evening edit." stay with us. >> the long term implications of these plans are serious and what we've seen is that these tax increases will ultimately fall on other people in order to pay for this large expansion of government.

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budget this is on top of the massive spending spree he has been on since taking office but critics warn someone has to pay for all of this. let's bring in our panel, former treasury department assistant secretary for public affairs, monica crowley, and former economic advisor to president trump, steve moore. steve, start with you. the data we got out this morning 385,000 americans applied for first time jobless claims last week. that is the lowest since the pandemic began. we're looking ahead for the unemployment report tomorrow, we're looking for good estimates, 650,000, a 5.9% rate. the white house is saying we have great numbers they're taking credit for it. having said that they are great numbers. why would we want to pour cold water on to them? >> one thing about those unemployment claims numbers came out today, it is true we got a big reduction in the number of new people signing up but still the number of people on

unemployment insurance actually rose, which is really weird because we're in the third or fourth month of a real strong expansion of emmoment and that really shows the 300-dollar a week supplemental unememployment benefits aring negative effect on employment. people are staying on and i think they stay on unemployment insurance until september, at least in the 25 states that have not suspended that number. i expect a really good number tomorrow. this is the result of reopening our businesses and the vaccine and that, i mean i take your point, jackie, the last thing we need right now is another several trillion dollars of spending because the big worry right now for the economy is inflation. jackie: yeah. >> you put two trillion dollars of unpaid spending on top of that, that will, that will ignite more inflation in the economy. jackie: that is what keeps economists and market watchers up at night, monica. let's talk about some of the

spending. the administration says we'll tax our way out of this, tax the rich but that is not exactly the way it will shake out. there will be a impact that goes pretty much across the board of all levels, economic levels of americans, will have to shoulder the burden for this. they can't even tax their entire way out of it. this will be something that goes on for a long while. >> yeah. try to tax your way out of this kind of massive spending scheme, never works. it is never worked throughout history. yet democrats every time they have the reins of power continue to try to go down this road, primarily for idealogical and political reasons, not economic reasons. you know, to steve's point inflation is a clear and present danger. it is already here. you saw the market react with a great wariness today because the jobs picture does look like it is strengthening. i think investors are really worried what that means for future inflation down the road and potential action by the fed.

to your point, jackie, someone has to pay for all of this. while the democrats talk consistently about soaking the rich and going after america's corporations they know the real money is with the middle class. while you have inflation on one end, which is a regressive hidden tax, it hits those at the bottom of the income ladder, much more intensely than those at the top with rising prices but then you have additional rising taxes that will hilt everybody across the board. it is going to squeeze the middle class most of all. jackie: thank you for making that point and making it so clearly. let's go back to inflation for a moment, steve, the white house is saying, the fed is saying it is transient, a short-term problem. but some economists i have spoken to once you let the inflation genie out of the bottle it can be a bigger problem than they're letting on here. >> i hope it is transient. i don't want to keep paying 3, 4, 5, $6 for gasoline.

you see it in stores, grocery stores, hardware stores, seeing it in airlines united states. you're seeing it right now, the fed to say been asleep at the switch on this. it may be transitory. maybe the fed will keep it under control. i am nervous about it. i think monica makes a really good point. biden says i will not raise taxes on people making less than $400,000, every time you go to the gas pump, that is the biden tax. i'm paying dollar more a gallon. jackie: steve that will not change. that is not necessarily because of all the spending or spending of money we're seeing. that is because of the administration's energy policies. i almost see it as a separate issue. monica, get on this, people voting for this administration may not have understood what they're getting may have a more clear picture what is happening. do you think it changes how they vote in 2022?

>> its is entirely possible. we saw this over eight year of the biden administration. massive spending, higher taxes, more intense regulatory regime. the result was, sluggish growth overall. sluggish wage growth. we saw growing income inequality, jacked up deficits, smothering debt. we've seen this story before and i think the comparison between the trump pro-growth, pro-worker policies we know what works, it delivered a booming economy prepandemic. we're in the strong trump recovery which biden is in the process of trying to smother to death. i think the strong comparison between the eight years of obama-biden, four years of president trump's strong growth, almost full employment, with no inflation, real goldilocks economy what we're about to get could have real political implications for 2022 and 2024. jackie: we will be watching.

monica crowley, steve moore, always great to see you both. >> thank you, jackie. jackie: we'll talk soon. coming up on the show, the department of justice announcing it is elevating investigations into ransomware attacks to a similar priority as terrorism but what took so long? we've got attacks on our fuel, food and infrastructure and experts fear this may be just the beginning. former state department senior advisor on anti-terrorism, morgan wright is here next when "the evening edit" continue. >> what we're seeing here is widespread cyber criminal activity, tolerated and authorized by the russian government, why is that? because it supports their overall objective to undermine america and its institutions and people's confidence in that.

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treatment plants, washington, d.c.'s police departments even hospitals. the crippling attacks are serious for americans already paying more for gas and groceries. experts fear it only could get worse from here, targeting the power grid, the phone networks, banking systems. our next guest says we're in a digital pandemic with ransomware. central one chief security department, former state department senior advisor on anti-terrorism morgan wright joins us now. good evening to you. this has been something on the radar for some time. these attacks have brought it front and center. why have we no that we've not been moring a griffs sieve battling this? >> that is one of the most important questions. cybercrime is not sexy. not sending special forces people are not parachuting. not like seeing a s.w.a.t. team go into a building. these things impact people in a way, people only care sometimes when it happens to them like

fuel, like water, like power. so it is really a mindset how people perceive the threat. make mo necessary no mistake, i was listening to general keen, he is spot on. we're the main adversary for russia or china. we can do all the sanctions we want. it will not stop the problem. it will not go away with policy and sanctions, guess what they're still doing it. >> it is not working. when the colonial pipeline happened one comment i made, this is what happens when you attack a small piece of the infrastructure. what if it is done on a larger scale? then you hear it happened at meatpacking plant. you have to ask yourself, i covered energy for a number of years, what if russia or china attacked our power grid? >> here is what is happening right now. we have these criminal ransomware gangs taking the place of nation states. it used to be only nation states attacked infrastructure. during world war ii, korean war,

vietnam war but we have criminal gangs attacking our infrastructure, essential services we provide, yet many gangs are given implicit authority and cover to do this. why do you think the ransomware gangs are in russia? bus we have no extradition treaty in russia. there is zero chance we'll see the criminals show up in the courtroom. we can't get the intelligence officers from the svr, that did solar winds attacks, no chance we'll see those guys, no chance we'll see those folk, so we have to redefine the problem. jackie: this is face i don't have between leaders, president biden and putin himself. >> yes. jackie: when you think about the meeting coming up, the example it will set, the message it sets on the world stage, you ask yourself is president biden strong enough to make putin do something? >> you know, i used an example, take a look what elon musk did. all he simply asked the question

why can't we reuse rockets? he redefined the problem. what we need to do is look, sanctions, forget it. it's a fiction. you will not get them to stop. we have to quit hoping russia, china, north korea, iran will stop. we'll stop it before it starts. we'll build rock solid defenses. right kind of companies. we'll not let it happen. we'll have a superior defense. and we'll let policy decisions define offensive capabilities, cyber command, nsa, fbi, cia whatever they might do, absent that we need rock solid defense that say we will not let the attacks happen anymore. jackie: morgan wright, thank you. i hope someone listens to you. >> thank you. jackie: hunter biden bombshell, former stripper, mother to his child who hunter biden claims he has no recollection of meeting, she was reportedly on his consulting firm's payroll. kristin tate weighs in next.

>> this is all about pay-to-play. it is all about hunter biden who had a lot of problems, providing access in the united states to people in russia, to people in china. i mean china, he comes out of there with his father after flying over there on air force two. they were denying, joe biden lied to the american people over and over again. he told us that he never talked to his brother. he never talked to his son about their businesses. and yet now we have photographs of them. now we have that laptop. ♪. ♪ ♪ ♪ common love isn't for us ♪ ♪ we created something phenomenal ♪ ♪ don't you agree? ♪ ♪ don't you agree? ♪ ♪ ♪

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laptop by "the daily mail." the laptop said she was taken off the company as insurance plan months after giving birth. joining us to discuss this "the hill" columnist kristin tate. always good to see you. her name was london roberts. there was a paternity suit settled in may of 2019. he pays child support and health insurance now. the text messages clearly show a relationship and clearly walk away he has no recollection of meeting her? >> it is totally outrageous. hunter biden's behavior, it's despicable but what is most infuriating about this story is not that hunter biden is a terrible person or a creep. it's that the media continues to ignore the story even as new facts emerge. last year when the "new york post" first reported on hunter biden's laptop, twitter blocked that story from being shared and said it was fake news.

journalists, mainstream media journalists were saying it was russian disinformation with no evidence of that claim at all. we know it was all true. that is hunter biden's laptop. still the media refuses to cover it. still today when you try to find information about hunter biden and mother of his son who he claims he had no recollection of even though she worked for his consulting firm, barely any outlets are covering it. mostly just tabloids. it is a despicable shame. jackie: you heard the sound bite from judge jeanine how many lies have been told about the deal national china and dealings in russia. the president said he had no idea what was going on, he was not involved but we have evidence that he was. you're right the media doesn't want to talk about it. in fact social media shutting the conversation down initially. almost like what is happening with the wuhan lab as well. they shut that down immediately to just silence everybody. >> exactly right. can you imagine if a laptop

belonging to don trump, jr., with this kind of dirt on it was turned over to the fbi? who wouldn't think that would be front page story on every out let for months and months and months? because it is hunter biden it largely gets ignored. we keep getting more evidence of corrupt dealings by burisma, the consulting firm paying hunter biden $83,000 a month to sit on its board even though hunter has no experience or expertise in the energy industry. we know because of the laptop being revealed burisma cut hunter biden's pay in half starting in march of 2017 which is shortly after joe biden became a private citizen again and we keep getting more information that perhaps joe biden was a lot more involved in hunter biden's influence-peddling than he said he was. people need the truth, people demand the truth, and it's a real shame the media fuses to report that story.

jackie: in the story he says he has no recollection meeting her. on the late-night tv he said that he has no recollection much the laptop and everybody lets him get away with it. kristin, thanks for coming on tonight an laying that out. >> thanks for having me. jackie: "the federalist" ace chris bedford lays out how taxpayers are on the hook for governor andrew cuomo's mounting legal fees even after his five million dollar book deal. >> when i first read the governor was writing a book in the middle of a pandemic, i thought it was a joke. i thought it was a headline in the babylon bee or the onion. how could the governor write a book about leadership when thousands of elderly were dying? it was incredible. i was mad at the time but seeing that he got over $5 million for this, profiting off the deaths of new yorkers including my in-laws, it's disgusting. ♪.

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>> the way it work is the executive chamber has retained the counsel and that is a state expense. it has been in every investigation. so that's where we are now. jackie: that is new york's embattled governor andrew cuomo letting his constituents know they are going to be left holding the check for a big chunk of his legal fees. cuomo signed a $2.5 million contract with a lawyer to represent him in a federal investigation into the alleged altering of the number of nursing home deaths in the state during the covid-19 pandemic. now the news has sparked outrage given that cuomo earned more than five million dollars in a book deal chronicling his handling of the covid crisis. fox's own meteorologist janice dean lost both her in-laws to covid when they were in nursing homes in new york. here is what she thinks should happen to the book money. >> i think the book publishing

company can sue him for breach of contract because it is filled with lies and if you look at the timeline, the governor covering up the nursing home issue, the tragedy, over 15,000 deaths that him and his administration tried to cover up for months, the timeline corresponds with him trying to sell that five million dollar book. so i wonder if we can profit of the "son of sam" law? all of that money should go to the families of our dead loved ones. jackie: let's talk about with "the federalist" chris bedford. chris, always great to see you. in the sound bite we came in with the governor is explaining this is how it works but it feels very unjust given everything that happened. you know, what can he do about this? can he change what he is doing, his approach? we know he doesn't want to give up that seat but to calm people down a little because there are people like janice that are very

angry? >> there are people like janice who have been angry for a long time, trying to call it out for year-and-a-half, covered up by not just cuomo but his friends and enablers in the media allowed him to get the book deal in the first place, people who were victims, voiceless were actually dying. the sad case we're seeing with governor cuomo i don't expect to see much satisfaction, much justice to come from this at all. the best-case scenario we may see he resigns, pushed out of office, will get a lieutenant governor who takes control. it will be absolute continuation. the fact he is in the executive make it, very, very difficult to sue him or hold him accountable the way a private citizen would be held accountable for victimizing private citizens counting on him, the constituents. jackie: he doesn't want to give up the seat at all i mentioned. you would think between this. the covid-19 handling what happened in nursing homes the allegations of sexual harassment

sex he would seem to throw in the towel, but why would he if taxpayers pick up his expenses right? >> exactly $900 for annular, and $600 an hour for helpers, no problem when he is putting money on the taxpayer dime. he wasn't thinking twice about putting people who were sick into nursing homes. we didn't know a whole lot of covid at the beginning, that was basic thing of common sense you don't expose the elderly. he had press conferences how he was protecting his mother and wasn't caring for other peoples mothers and fathers. that is incredibly embarasses thing, we learned from cuomo and his behavior so far he is absolutely shameless or doesn't appear to be. shaming him out of the money wouldn't appear to work. he will hold on to it. jackie: 30 seconds, chris if he is in office this situation plays out in over time, is there any way people will go after him

in civil case for damages? >> i hope to see that. given the state of new york, people will try to protect him trying to push him down, it will be difficult for anybody to serve time for this kind of a crime or beyond that in civil cases to even lose money there is so many protections for the executive. neither will the media be held accountable for propping him up. jackie: chris bedford, thank you for your time and your insights. >> thank you. jackie: just ahead, more heartbreaking video from the border. migrants nearly drowning trying to cross the u.s.-mexico border. plus arizona attorney general mark brnovich, he is here on the fight to stop hhs turning hotels into his state into migrant detention facilities. stay with us. >> they want as many illegal aliens in country as possible they can get away with because they think it helps them win elections. they don't care of a video of a five-year-old crying or people dying or sexually abused along the way. what they care about is votes,

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frightening sight in roma, texas. watch this. [background sounds] >> they're drowning. [inaudible conversations] >> the shadow over here -- >> yeah. i know. jackie: luckily, everyone onboard survived. border patrol was getting ready to go in and rescue them, but the smuggler put them back in the boat. that's what you're watching there. it's the latest example of the huge risks that migrants make attempting to get into the united states illegally every single day. joining me now is arizona attorney general mark brnovich. mark, good evening to you. we show one of these videos almost every night. heartbreaking. terribly sad. part of the problem here is the messaging that we're open for business. that's why people risk their lives, and they try to come.

in your state it's being very much impacted by this, you're waging a fight. you want to stop dhs from using the hotels to house migrants? explain this to us. >> well, we have multiple lawsuits, jackie, trying to stop the biden administration from incentivizing, decriminalizing and monetizing people coming into this country illegally. the video that you just showed that sara carter helped get out in the public is heartbreaking because this is not the way human beings should be incentivized or try to come over into our country illegally. it creates problems for everyone. and right now the biden administration has announced they're literally going to house folks in kind of an upscale natured right near -- neighborhood right near a school, right near a senior center, folks that have crossed the border illegally. they've coordinate thed with no law enforcement officials, so there's some serious questions, why is this happening in this area? why is this hotel being used for a detention center? what happens if someone escapes?

the biden administration has a policy you can't arrest or detain people at school or medical facilities. does that mean if someone gets out, they're not going to be able to do anything near a school or senior center? our public safety is being impacted. you have folks that are coming here risking their lives, and the biden administration's doing absolutely nothing. jackie: and some of them could potentially be danger. we know that, and we know that our law enforcement has been really stretched trying to deal with this. what brings this to a tipping point? does something really bad have to happen before everybody wakes up? >> this is a crisis. and i keep saying, god forbid, it's going to become a catastrophe. in our lawsuit, our lawsuit that's trying to force the biden administration to continue to deport people that have been convicted of crimes or serious offenses, there are 1.2 million people in this country right now with deportation orders. the biden administration's not deporting them. as a result, you have people who have been convicted of crimes,

and prisons all over the country i.c.e. is refusing to pick them up, they're refusing to be deported. that means they're getting released into our community. there are so many people right now coming into our country, we're losing track of who they are. there's got of got-aways, people coming in on the terror watch list that is have been apprehended. this is a crisis, but it's going to become a tragedy because people are going to get hurt x. whether that's the cartels poisoning our neighborhoods or these criminals that are being released, people are going to get hurt. where is the biden administration, where's our border czar? ignoring this problem will not make it go away. jackie: as somebody who is trying to do something about this, if you were talking to kamala harris, what would you say to her? >> i would say, look, we are both products of immigration. i'm first generation, she's first yep ration. she's a former prosecutor, i'm a prosecutor. we both care about human trafficking, we both care about people being exploited, so why aren't you doing anything? we need to continue to build the

border wall, we need to stop incentivizing people from coming here and stop spending tens of millions of taxpayer dollars putting people up in hotels. it encourages more people to come here and risk their lives. jackie: i've got to be honest, i think that you care from what i've heard, but from what i've read and the inaction that i've seen from kamala harris, i'm not really sure she does care. >> i think that it's something you teach your kids. just because you ignore a problem, it will not go away. and it is going to get worse. and it breaks my heart as someone who understands immigration, that what the biden administration's doing is actually undermining any sort of, you know, long-term, comprehensive proposals in this country. and more importantly, they are endangering american lives. right now by not following existing law. let's secure the border, let's headache sure we keep our communities 15eu6, let's make sure we keep our nation safe from a national security perspective and, you know, where is the biden administration?

i don't know. they've essentially told the us to pound sand. they refuse to reach out to us. breaks my heart. jackie: mark, thank you for fighting the fight. mark brnovich, great to see you tonight. all right, folks, i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us, and we thank you for watching. have a wonderful evening. ♪♪ larry: hello, everyone. welcome back to" kudlow." i'm larry kudlow. so the economic recovery is here. it's unlike anything you've seen. that was the headline on "the wall street journal" this morning. excellent, accurate article. probably 5,000 words long. and it reminds me of so much of the past year mostly working in the government when i argued from the data that this was, in fact, a v-shaped recovery. just take