in five people have shelfed a game at home to avoid causing problems. the biggest culprit? monopoly with at least 44% of respondents saying they haveon banned the game for starting too many arguments in their house. how about that? peoplele hiding all that money. that does it for us on "fox business tonight." thanks for joining us. "the evening edit" with elizabeth macdonald starts -- jackie: good evening, everybody. tonight, more fallout over dr. fauci's e-mails. t this after fauci -- did dr. fauci keep information from then-president trump about the wuhan lab? remember, it was partly funded by fauci's own institute. did he neglect to mention that his lab could have been the source of the pandemic? plus, new claims that there was an effort among some higher-ups at the state department to block an investigation into the wuhan lab leak theory.

one official reportedly warned that he feared it would, quote, open up a can of worms. joining us tonight, jason chaffetz, monica crowley, steve moore, also former state department senior adviser on anti-terrorism, morgan wright and arizona attorney general mark brnovich. also tonight president biden has proposed a $6 trillion budget on top of the massive spending spree that he's been on. but critics warn someone's got to pay for all this, and it could prove to be a burden on the middlee class. yes, the middle class, the ones that president biden said he wouldn't tax. so does that open up new doors for republicans in 2022? we'll discuss.ew and just today the department of justicee announcing it's elevatingtm investigations into ransomware attacks to a similar priority the as terrorism, but what took so long? there have been attackses on our fuel, food and infrastructure,

and experts fear this may just be the beginning. and just when you thought you'd heard the last of hunter biden's infamous laptop, well, another bombshell drops. the former stripper and now-mother to his child who, by the way, hunter biden claimed he has no recollection of meeting, was reportedly on his consulting firm's payroll. plus, taxpayers on the hook? guess who's going to be footing the bill for governor andrew cuomo's legal fees? new yorkers. and more heartbreaking video from the border. exclusive footage of migrants nearly drowning trying to cross in to texas. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ jackie: welcome, everybody. another blow to dr. fauci's credibility. an explosive, newly-revealed e-mail showing that fauci didn't

tell the truth or didn't, pardon me, tell then-president trump everything he knew about the possibility of the wuhan lab, partly funded by his own institute, that it might be the source of the pandemic. watch f dr. fauci just this morning change his tune once again. >> the most likely origin is a jumping of species. i still do think it is at the same time as i'm keeping an open mind that it might be a lab leak. obviously, you want openness and cooperation. one of the ways you can get it is don't be accusatory. jackie: let's welcome fox news contributor jason chaffetz. jason, always good to see you, and good evening to you. he is flip-flopping here more than a politician. >> flip-flopping? i mean, he is just jumping from lily pad to lily pad. he just cannot decide what in the worldhe he's going to do. to suggest that the way to deal with the chinese government is to do it the way he -- that's

not his job. his job was to be the chief scientist and be able to share that information with the decision makers like president donald trump to make the best decisions about how to suppress this virus. but if you don't provide the president and the public the information so theyon can make informed decisions, shame on you. i think dr. fauci should be fired, i think he should be let go. at the g very least, they should suspend him while this cloud of suspicion hangs over his head. jackie: jason, he keeps talking about this issue that the nih provided this funding, yes, but it wasn't for gain of function research. what is that? that is research when you basically take an animal virus and make it, mutate it so that it can infect humans. that's what gain of function research is. and listen to dr. fauci being very snarky in an exchange here with rand paul about this issue. listen. >> dr. fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan?

>> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute -- >> do they -- [inaudible] >> we do not fund -- >> do you fund dr. baric's gain of research? >> dr. baric is not doing that research, and if it is, it's according to the guidelines, and it is being conducted in north carolina --- >> you don't think -- jackie: jason, i was particularly struck with this on may 11th, and that's why we played that sound bite. we gave him this money. he does not know that it wasn't used in a specific way or not. he has no idea once that check is written what happens. >> well, that's the whole point. it showed that rand paul was about three steps ahead of

dr. fauci and does understand how this works. i mean, these are people that are supposed to be ablee to trak how a virus mutates and moves, but they can't seem to follow the money trail? when you give out a grant and you fund specific personnel or certain organizations, i think you still have a duty to figure out what in the world they are actually doing with it. so i think the truth is not on the side of dr. fauci here. and, again, he's got time to write books, he's got time to do all the "vanity fair" interview? he didn't have time to actually do the science. at that point he needs to be dismissed sooner rather than later. jackie: you said the word duty when it comes to dr. fauci, but there's also a duty, you know, a negligence issue, if you will, here when with it comes to china and how it handled the virus. let's rewind and go back in our mind's eye to march of 2020 when things were getting really bad, and weng knew that lockdowns wee going to be coming here in the

united states, and it was chaotic. that was the time that china said, okay, we're going to lock down wuhan, we're going to lock down our country, nobody's coming in, but you can go out and spread this virus across the globe, essentially. at this point it's killed 600,000 americans and 3.5 million people worldwide. so people want an investigation because they want to know what's their negligence here. that's a very important question. >> yes. they are ultimately responsible. i was scared to death when with it first happened. you saw the rapid deployment and the building of hospitals. they were going to put, you know, barbed wire or chains or whatever you want the call it, bars on the windows of the hospitals. but they were still letting people out. and remember, it was donald trump that was actually going out to the public and saying, hey, we've got to w slow down te travel only to have nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and joe biden and everybody saying, oh, you know, you're racist and else.hing and come to chinatown, they were providing all the wrong

solutions. bill de blasio saying come ride on the subways. i mean, they were prescribing all the wrong solutions. but ultimately, it is china, and they did not share the proper information, they were not candid with the investigators. and you cannot trust the world health organization, w.h.o., who has basically been in the financial pocket of china all along.hi jackie: and, jason, last point here, and this is how i see it. it's almost like a cold case. the more time that passes, the harder it becomes to find out what exactly happened, find the victim, whatever the case may be as that trail gets colder and colder. and that's what it feels like has happened with respect to the wuhan lab here. this is over a year later. china's not giving us access. do you think there'd be any evidence left anyway? >> well, look, shame on the national media, and shame on the social media giants out there the that suppressed the idea, didn't even want to investigate, didn't even think that it was plausible because donald trump suggested it.

we have the world's greatest intelligence agencies on the face of thehe planet, and when e president said this, he wasn't justak making it up. so that was a huge inflection point where the world slowed down. andpo looking at this possibili, you want to do that so that it unever, ever happens again. but, you know, because donald trump said it, they turned off any sort of, any sort of intellectual curiosity to find out if it was actually true. and it probably is true. jackie: you bring up this great point too about social media and how they shut that conversation down. they n did not allow that to be part of the discourse which is something that we do in this country. we have discourse with each other to try to get to the bottom ofth things, and that isa huge responsibility on the shoulder of social media, i think, when we finally do get to the bottom of this. jason, great to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. jackie: for more on this, i want to bring in florida congresswoman cath tam act. congresswoman, wonderful to see you tonight.

an internal state department memo warned leaders not to investigate covid origins because it could, quote, open a can of worms. [laughter] your thoughts tonight. >> i mean, can you imagine in private industry if a ceo or a high-level executive had sent a memo like that and that had gotten leaked, the blowback they would have received? this is what people hate about government. it's rules for thee but not for me. and when you have a statement like that from state department officials saying this is going to, quote-unquote, open up a can of worms, someone call the families of people who have lost loved ones of this virus, and then you talk about the cover-up and all the hypocrisy of dr. fauci who says you have to wear a mask. but he himself in those e-mails said that the masks don't work or, hey, if we get to a zero or to a one, that this epidemic will resolve itself without a vaccine. meanwhile, he's got time to go on "vanity fair" and be on covers of magazines and write

books? give me a break. we need a can of worms right now because the american people deserve thee truth. they deserve transparency to know exactly where their payer dollars have gone in the midst of this debacle of this so-called covid pandemic response. more than ever we need people who are willing to open up that can of worms and go toe to toe against these bureaucrats all over washington d.c. jackie: people want responsibility, they want accountability, they want to know that this will never happen again. >> exactly. jackie: it was a crisis unlike anything that we've ever seen before. and to look at those e-mails and toto see that dr. fauci who, you know, we trusted despite the fact, as you point out, that he did flip-flop on issues like masks and all kinds of things that we were going through this, that he was trying to for suede president trump that there wasn't a lab look. why do you think he would do that? >> you know, i think the answers to that question lie in the e-mails themselves. he had an incredible amount of

communication with chinese nationals that were very, very collegial, if you will. he really had strong ties and relationships to the scientific community in mainland china. now, we know that there were taxpayer dollars that have gone to fund h research in labs in mainland china. in my own hometown of gainesville at the university of florida, there have been taxpayer-funded research from chinese nationals, adjunct professors, that have actually taken that research and given it to theiv ccp under the guise of the thousand talents program. we know that he's complicit in theseic relationships. so of course he's going to downplay the fact that the w.h.o. and the chinese government have been complicit in manipulating the data from the word go. because they knew that if they were honest and transparent about this from the outset, that it would have completely changed the dynamic and the world's view ofof china. now we're starting to uncover theseer layers. we understand that the he is complicit inn covering for his

buddies in china. now more than ever it's time to fire fauci and hold him accountable for his role in covering up the covid pandemic origin. jackie: and i will leave you with this final chilling thought, from china, quote: prepare for an intense showdown between china and the united states. and, unfortunately, that could bebe where this is going. congresswoman, thank you so much. nice the see you. >> thank youou so much. have a good one. jackie: still ahead on the show, monica crowley and steve moore, they're going to weigh in on who's going to foot the bill for president biden's massive spending spree. andve labor shortages nationwid, what it could mean for republicans in 2022. you're watching "the evening edit." stay with us. >> the long-term implications of these plans are serious, and what we've seen is that these tax increases will ultimately fall on other people in order to pay for this large expansion of government.

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trillion budget. this is on top of theprenos mase spending spree that he's been on since taking office. but critics warn who's going to pay for s all of this? let's bring in former treasury assistant secretary afor public affairs monica crowley and former economic adviser to president trump,or steve moore. steve, let's go ahead and start with s you. with the data we got out this morning, 385,000 americans applied for first-time jobless claims last week. that's the lowest since the pandemic began. we're looking ahead to the unemployment report tomorrow, and we're looking for good estimates, 650,000 and a 5.9% rate. the white house is even saying these are great numbers if we get them. and, of course, they're taking credit for it. having said that, they are great numbers. why would we want to pour cold water onto them? >> well, by the way, one thing neabout those unemployment clais numbers that came out today, it's true we got a big reduction in the number of new people signingum up, but still the numr of people on unemployment

insurance actually rose which is really weird because we're in the third or fourth month of a real strong expansion in employment. and that really shows that these $300 a week supplemental unemployment benefits are having loa very negative effect on unemployment. i think you have people that are going to stay on that unemployment insurance until september, at least the 25 states that haven't suspended that number. look, i'm expecting a really good number tomorrow. i think this is all a result of the reopening of our businesses and the vaccine. and that, i mean, i think i take your point, jackie. the last thing we need right now is another several trillion dollars of spending, because the big worry right now for the economy is inflation. you put $2 trillion, you know, unpaid spending on top of that, that will, that will ignite more inflation in the economy. jackie: all right. and that's what keeps economists eeand market watchers up at nig, monica. the administration is saying, oh, we're just going to tax our

way out of this. we're going to tax the rich. but that's not exactly the way it's going to shake out. there's going to be an impact that goes pretty much across the board throughout all levels, economic levels that americans are going to have to shoulder the burden for, and they can't even tax their entire way out of it. this is going to be something that goes on for a long while. >> yeah. trying too tax your way out of this kind of massive spending scheme never works, it's never worked throughout history. and yet democrats every time they have the reins of power continue to try to go down this road primarily forno ideologicalling and political reasons, not economic reasons. you know, to steve's point, inflation is a clear and present danger. it's already here. you saw the market react with a great wariness today because the jobs picture does lookhe like is strengthening, and i think investors are really worried about what that means for future inflation down the road and potential action by the fed.

but to your point, jackie, someone has to pay for all of this. and while the democrats talk consistently about soaking the rich and going after america's corporations, they know that the real money with the middle class. so while you have inflation on one end which is a regressive hidden tax exposed at the bottom of the income ladder much more intensely than those at the top with rising crisis, but then the you have additional rising taxes that is going to hit everybody across the board, and it's going to squeeze the middle class most of all. jackie: thank you for making that point and making it so clearly. h let's go back to inflation for a moment, steve, because the white house saying, the fed is saying that it's transient, right? this is a short-term problem. so many economists say once you let the inflation genie out of the bottle, it can be a bigger

problem than they're letting on here. >> i hope it is transient. i don't want to keep paying $3, 4, 5, 6 a gallon for gasoline, and you see it in the stores and the grocery stores and airline flights. you're just seeing it right now. and for the fed to say -- they've been asleep at the switch on this. it may beht transitory, but i'm nervous about it. and i do think that monica makes a really good point which is biden keeps saying i'm not going to raise taxes on people with less than $400,000, but every time you go to gas pump, that's the biden tax -- jackie: that's not going to to change, steve. that's not necessarily because of all the spending and printing of money, that's because of the administration's policies when it comes to green energy. i almost see that as a separate issue. but monica, i want to get to you on this because people who voted for this administration maybe not understanding exactly what it was they were going to to get have a more clear picture. do you think that changes how they vote in 2022? >> i think it's entirely possible. i mean, we saw this movie before

over eight years of the obama/biden administration. we saw this massive spending, higher taxes, more intense regulatory regime for those eight years, and the result was sluggish growth overall, sluggish wage growth. we saw growing income inequality, jacked-up deficits, smothering debt. so we've seen this story before, and i think that the comparison between the trump pro-growth, pro-worker policies -- we know ites works, it delivered a boomg economy pre-pandemic, we're now in the strong trump recovery which biden is in the process of trying to smother to death. so i think the strong comparison between the eight years of obama/biden, the four years of president trump's strong growth and almost full employment with no inflation, a real goldilocks economy to what we're about to get could have real political implications for 2022 and 2024. jackie: we will be watching. monica i crowley and steve

moore, always great to see you both. thank you. we'll talk soon. >> thanks, jackie. jackie: coming up, the department of justice announcing it's elevating investigations into ransomware attacks to a similar priorityr as terrorism, but what took so long? we've had attacks on our fuel, food and infrastructure, and experts fear this may just be the beginning. former state department senior adviser on anti-terrorism morgan wright is here next when "the evening edit" continues. >> what we're seeing here is widespread cyber criminal activity tolerated and authorized by the russian government. why isus that? because it supports their overall objective to undermine america, its institutions and the people's confidence in that. ♪ ♪ d all over the country. talking about saving with geico. but that's the important bit, innit? showing up, saying “hello! fancy a nice chat?” then we talk like two old friends about sticky buns and all the savings you could get

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police department, even hospitals. the crippling attacks are serious for americans already paying more for gas and groceries, and experts fear it could only get worse from here, targeting things likers the powr grid, phone networks, banking systems. our next guest says we're in a digital pandemic with ransomware. former state the department senior adviserpa on anti-terrorm morgan wright joining us now. good evening to you. this has been on the radar for some time, and these attacks have brought it front and center. why haven't we been more aggressive in trying to combat this?? >> that is probably one of the best questions nobody's ever really answered. we've talked about it because cyber crimeri isn't is sexy because you can't see things happening. it's not like sending special forces in, people aren't parachuting, not like seeing a s.w.a.t. team go into a building. these things impact9 people in a way, and people sometimes only carere when something happens to

them like fuel, like water, like power like this. so it's really a mindset. but make no mistake -- and i was listening to general keane earlier in the tease, he is spot on. we are the main adversary for russia, for china. we could do all the sanctions we want, it's not going to stop them. we have to rethink the problem, and it's not going to go away simply because we have a policy or sanctions. we tried that and, guess what? they're still doing it. jackie: it doesn't work. when the colonial happened, one of the comments i made is this is just one example when you attack just one small piece of the infrastructure. then you hear it happened at meat-packing plant as well. i've covered energy, for example,t for many years, and i would always say what would happen if russia or china attacked our power grid? >> well, here's what's happening right now. we now have these criminal ransomware gangs that are taking the placere of nation-states. it used to be only nation-states attacked infrastructure during

the korean war, the vietnam war, but now we have criminal gains that are attacking our infrastructure, essential services thatng we provide, and yet many of these gangs are given implicit authority and encover to go do this. why do you think the ransomware gangs are in russia? because we have no extradition tree the city with russia. there is -- treaty with russia. we can't even get the intelligence officers from the svr and the gru, the ones who did the solarwinds hack and all of these big ones. there's no chance we'll see thoseo folks, so we have to redefine the problem. jackie: to a certain extent, this seems like a faceoff between the leaders, right? >> yes. jackie: for example, president biden and putin himself, you know, when you think about their meeting that's coming up and the example that it's going to set and the message that it's going to set on the world stage. ask yourself, you know, is president biden strong enough to make putin, you know, do something? >> you know, i used an example, i said, you know, take a look at what elon musk did.

all he asked was why can't we reuse rockets? look, sanctions, forget it. it's a fiction. we've got to quit hoping that russia, china, iran, north korea will stop. instead, we have to say we're going to stop it before it even starts. we're going to build rock solid defenses, have the right kind of technology. we're not going to let it happen because, guess what? we're going to have a superior defense, and we'll let policy decisions define our offensive capabilities whether it's cyber command, nsa, fbi, cia whatever it is they might do. absent all of that the, we need a rock solid defense that says we're not going to let these attackss happen anymore. jackie: morgan wright, thank you. i hope someone's listening. [laughter] coming up next, another hunter biden bombshell. the formerr stripper and now-mother to his child who hunterd biden claims he has no recollection of meeting, well, she was reportly on his consulting firm's payroll. kristin tate wane weighs in

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them laptop by "the daily mail." the texts also allegedly show hunter made sure that she was taken off the company insurance plan months after giving birth. joining us now to discuss this, hill columnist kristin tate. kristin, always great to see you. london roberts, there was a paternity suit, it was settled in may of 2019. he a pays child support, he also is paying their insurance how, and we've got these text messages that clearly go back and show a relationship, yet he can walkla away and say he had o recollection of meeting her? >> it'ss totally outrageous. nthunter biden's behavior, it's despicable. but what's most infuriating about this story is not that hunter biden's a terrible person or a creep, it's that the media continues to ignore the story even as new facts emerge. last year when "the new york post" first reported on hunter biden's laptop, twitter blocked that story from being shared and

said it was fake news. mainstream media journalists were saying it was russian disinformation with no evidence of that claim at all. now we know it was all true, that was hunter biden's laptop, and still the media refuses to cover it. even today when you try to find information about hunter biden and this mother of his son who he claims he had no recollection of even though she worked for his consulting firm, barely any outlets covering it. it's really a despicable shame. jackie: and you heard that sound bite from judge jeanine talking about how many lies have been told about the dealings in china, the dealings in russia, that the president said he had no idea what was going on, he was not involved in it. yet we find this evidence that shows he was, in fact, and social media shutting that conversation down initially. it's almost like what's happening with the wuhan lab as well. they shut that down immediately to just silence everybody. >> exactly right. i mean, can you imagine if a laptop belonging to donald trump

jr. with this kind of dirt on it wasd turned over to the fbi? who wouldn't think that that would be the front page story on every outlet for months and months and months? but because it's hunter biden, it largely gets ignored. and i we just keep getting more evidence of corrupt dealings by burisma that was paying hunter biden $83,000 a month to sit on its board o even though hunter d no experience or expertise in the energy industry. we know now because of the laptop being revealed that burisma cut hunter biden's pay in half starting march 2017 shortly after joe biden became a private citizen again. and we keep getting more information that perhaps joe biden was a lot more involved in hunter biden's influence hapeddling than he initially sad he was. people need the truth, people demand the truth, and it's a real shame that the media refuses to report on this story. jackie: and in this story he a says he has no recollection of

meeting her. he was on late night television talking about the laptop saying i can't recall if it was my laptop or not, and everybody just lets him get away with it. kristin tate, great to talk to you tonight. thanks so much for laying that out.t >> thanks for having me. jack coming up, "the federalist"'s chris bedford, new yorkers are on the hook for governormo cuomo's legal fees en after his $5 million book deal. >> when i first read that the governor was writing a book in the middle of the pandemic, i thought it was a joke. i thought it was a headline in "the onion." how could the governor write a book about leadership when thousands of elderly were dying? it was incredible. and i was mad at the time, but seeing thatim he got over $5 million for this, profiting off the deaths of new yorkers including my in-laws? it's disgusting. ♪ ♪

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>> the way it works is the executie chamber has retained the counsel. and that is a state expense. it has been in every investigation. so that's where we are now. jackie: that is new york's embattled governor andrew cuomo letting his constituents know that they're going to be left holding the check for a big chunk of his legal fees. cuomo signed a $2.5 million contract with a lawyer to represent him in a federal investigation into the alleged altering of the number of nursing home deaths in the state during the covid-19 pandemic. now, the news has sparked outrage given that como earned more than $-- cuomo earned more than $5 million in a book deal. fox's own meteorologist janice dean lost both her in-laws to covid when they were in nursing homes in new york. here's what she thinks should happen to the book money.

>> i think the book publishing company can sue him for breach ofof contract, because it's fild with lies. and if grow look at the timeline -- you look at the timeline, the governor covering up the nursing home issue, the tragedy, overs 15,000 deaths tht him and his administration tried to cover up for months, the timeline corresponds with him trying tot sell that $5 million book. so i wonder if we can profit off the son of sam law? all of that money should go to the families of our dead loved ones. jackie: let's talk about it with "the federalist"'s chris bedford. always good to see you. in the sound bite we came in with, the governor is explaining this is how it works, but it feels very unjust given everything that's happened, you know? what canan he do about this? can he mange change what he's doing -- can he change what he's doing? because we know he doesn't want to give up that seat, but to calm people down a little because people like janice are

very angry. >> there are people who have been angry for a long time that have been trying to call this out for a year and a half. it was covered up by all of cuomo's friends and enablers in the media while people who were victims, people who were voiceless were actually dying. the sad case we're going to see with governor cuomo is i don't expect tove see much satisfactin or much justice come from this at c all. the best case scenario people are going to see may be that he resigns or is pushed out of office, and you're just going to get a lieutenant governor who takes control, it's going to be an absolute continuation. what made it very, very, very difficult to i sue him or hold him accountable the way a private citizen would be held accountable for victimizing those private citizens who counted on him, his constituents. jackie: well, he doesn't want to give up g the seat at all, as i mentioned. you would think between this, the covid-19 handle, what happened in nursing homes and sexual harassment the governor might say it's time to throw in

the towel, but he seems to be forging forward. and why wouldn't he, if the taxpayers are going too pick up his legal expenses. >> exactly. $900 an hour for a lawyer, it's no problem at all for him when he's putting money on the taxpayers' dime. he wasn't thinking twice about tputting people who were sick into nursing homes. and we know we didn't know a whole lot about covid at the beginning, but that was just basic common sense that you don't expose the elderly. we hadse him in press conferencs daily talking about how he was trying to protect his mother, but he wasn't caring for other people's mothers and fathers. that's an incredibly embarrassing thing. as we've alsodi learned from his behavior and from the way he even wrote this book is he's absolutely shameless, or at least appears to be, so i think he'll hold on to the money. jackie: if he's not in office and this situation plays out over some time, is there any way that people will go after him in a civil way, in a civil case of some sort for damages?

>> i would hope to see that. given the state of new york, given the people who are going to try and protect him even when they're trying to push him down, i think it'll be very difficult to see anybody serve time or beyond that in civil cases to even lose m money. there's so many protections for the executive, and neither will the media be held accountable for propping hum up. jackie: chris, good to see you. thank for your insight. just ahead, my grants nearly drowning trying to cross the u.s./mexico border. plus, arizona attorney general mark brnovich is here on his fight to stop the dhs from turning hotels in his state into migrant detention facilities. stay with us. >> they want as many illegal aliens in this country as possible that they can get away with because they think it helps them winth elections. they do not care about the video of a 5-year-old crying or the people who die or are sexually abused along the way. what they care about is votes,

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the border crisis in roma, texas. watch this. [background sounds] >> they're drowning. [inaudible conversations] >> the shadow over here -- >> yeah. i know. >> [inaudible] jack a jack luckily, everyone onboardd survived. border patrol was getting ready to go in and rescue them, but the smuggler put them back in the boat. that's what you're watching there. it's the latest example of the huge risk migrants make attempting to get into the united states illegally every single day. joining me now is arizona attorney general mark brnovich. mark, good evening to you. we show one of these videos almost every night. heartbreaking, terriblied sad. but part of the problem is that we're open for business, that's why people r risk their lives ad try to come.

and your state is being very much impacted by this. you're waging a fight. you want to stop dhs from using the hotels to house migrants? explain this to us. >> well, we have multiple lawsuits, jackie, to stop the biden b administration from incentivizing, decriminalizing and monetizing people coming into this country illegally. the video you just showed that sara carter helped get out in the public is heartbreaking because this is nothe the way human beings should be incentivized or try to come into our country illegally. it creates problems for everyone. and right now the biden administration has announced theyti are literally going to house folks in an upscale neighborhood right near a school and a senior center, up to 1200 folks that have crossed the border illegally. they've coordinated with no law enforcement officials, so there's some serious questions. why is this happening in this area? why is this hotel being used for a detention center? what happens if someone escapes?

i.c.e. has a policy that you can't arrest or detain people at schools or medical facilities. does that mean if someone gets out, they're not going to be able to do anything because it's near a school or senior center? as you showed right at the beginning, you have folks that here risking their lives, and the biden administration's doing absolutely nothing. jackie: and listen, some of them could potentially be dangerous, we know that, and we know that our law enforcement has been really stretched trying to deal with this. what brings this to a tipping point? does something bad really have to happen before everybody wakes up? >> this is a crisis, and i keep saying, god forbid, it's going to become a catastrophe. and our lawsuit that's trying to force the biden administration, there are 1.2 million people in this country right now with deportation orders. the biden administration's not deporting them. as a result, you have people convicted of arkansasson, rapes -- arson, rapes, other

crimes, i.c.e. iss refusing to pick them up. that means they're being released into our community. there are so many people coming into our country we're losing track of who they are. there's got of got-aways, you know, people coming in from the terror watch list that have been apprehended. this is a rye sis, but it is going -- crisis, but it is going to become a tragedy because people are going to get hurt. whether that's the cartel smuggling drugs or people being released into the neighborhoods, people are going to get hurt. where's our border czar? ignoring this problem will not make it go away. jackie: i would ask you on this program, if you were talking to kamala harris, what would you say to her? >> i would say, look, we are both product of immigration. i'm first generation, she's firsts generation. a former prosecutor, i'm a prosecutor. we both care about human trafficking, about people being exploited, so whyhy aren't you doing anything w in we need to

continue buildingbo the border wall, and we need to stop spending tens of millions of taxpayer dollars putting people up in hotels because what does that p do, jackie? it encourages more people to come here and risk their lives. jackie: mark, i've got to be you.t with i think that you care, from what i've heard, but from what i've read and the inaction i've seen from kamala harris, i'm not really sure he does care. >> i think -- she does care. >> just because you ignore a problem, it will not go away. and it breaks my heart as someone that understands immigration, that what the biden administration is doing is actually undermining any sort of, or you know, long-term, comprehensive, you know, proposals in this country. and more importantly, they are endangering american lives right now by not following existing law. so let's secure the border. let's make sure we keep our communities safe. let's make sure that we keep our nation safe from a national security perspective. and, youom know, where is the biden administration?

i don't know. they've essentially told us to pound sand. theyol won't coordinate with lol law enforcement. they refuse to reach out with us. breaks my heart. jackie: mark, thank you for fighting the fight. great to see you tonight. all right, folks, i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it fores us, and we thank you for watching. have a wonderful evening. larry: hello, everyone. welcome back to" kudlow." i'm larry kudlow. so the economic recovery is here. it's unlike anything you've seen. that was the headline on "the wall street journal" this morning. excellent, accurate article. probably 5,000 words long. and it reminds me of so much of the past year mostly working in the government when i argued from the data that this was, in fact, a v-shaped recovery. just take a qui