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laid to rest, carole slipped that very soldier into his suit pocket. i'm jamie colby. thanks so much for watching "strange inheritance." i guess sometimes you can take it with you. hopefully set sail next month. that dozen for fox business. "the evening edit" coming up next. >> tonight the wuhan lab leak theory gaining momentum, now there are several allegations that health and state department officials are stonewalling an investigation into it, all of this is the former cdc chief doctor robert redfield says he received death threats from prominent scientist after saying he believed covid-19 might've escaped from a wuhan lab, plus doctor anthony fauci, he's changing his tune again, calling
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on china to release medical records of wuhan lab workers who fell ill in 2019. joining us to discuss at all tonight fox news can trigger sean duffy, former state department official kristen whitten, mr. schell, former new york city police commissioner howard, wall street journal associate editor john bessie, media president and former ice director tom homan. also tonight why return to work when you're getting paid not to, the jobs report flashing warning signs that president biden added on employment benefits are hurting businesses and struggling to find workers, one democrat lawmaker wants people to go back to work part-time and still keep the unappointed benefits. in states from "coast to coast" are seeing crime and violence ravaged their cities but congresswoman alexandria
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ocasio-cortez says she has the answer to end it all, wait to you hear this. more hypocrisy refusing to make jackets for an oil and gas company reportedly because it does not want to be associated with fossil fuels but we will show you why there is a big problem with their analysis. new details and hunter biden investigation e-mails revealing potential pay for play for ukraine officials involving the hillary claim campaign. of course the biden border crisis firing out of control, new details of a gunfight between border agents and suspected cartel members. i am jackie deangelis and for elizabeth macdonald and "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. jackie: we've been talking about all week dr. fauci's credibility with a major hit some calling for his resignation at this
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point and it appears dr. fauci is trying to press china for answers on the origin of the covid-19 pandemic calling on china to release the medical records of the wuhan lab worker who reportedly fell ill with covid like sickness, this is as dr. fauci pushes back on the grants that went to the wuhan lab, dr. fauci saying are you really saying that we are implicated because we gave a multibillion-dollar institution, $120,000 a year for back surveillance, let's get to the bottom of all of this with fox news contributor sean duffy, good evening to you let me start with this the dollar amount being $120,000 a year did that make a difference we didn't give them much to do this, doesn't matter a dollar would matter to me. >> with a gain-of-function to a lab that isn't safe and also because the covid-19 virus, i
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would not want to give them 1 dollar let alone $120,000 the problem do we really believe dre $120,000 he has no credibility and i'm sure the dollar amount that it has given the wuhan lab in other labs like it it's way higher than $120,000, he has no trust or credibility at all considering all the lies he's told us of the pandemic. jackie: you mention gain-of-function research not a dollar went to gain-of-function research but he has no way to back it up. i also want to talk to you about the nih because former secretary of state mike pompeo has strong accusation about their involvement in this. listen. >> the state department inside the organization who put up documents in january 15 that demonstrated the central facts that lead to the overwhelming demonstrating to this and did
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come from the lab it was good work by the state department team lots of bureaucracy to get there and lots of internal debate from nih folks are trying to suppress what were doing for the nih as well. jackie: why were they trying to bury this the only thing i can think of because if we go deeper with this investigation something might come out. >> god bless that we had mike pompeo in the state department who has fortitude to push his investigation. what we see when you combine government in science you don't get truth you get politics and political decisions. what happens inside of a government you have politicos who might've been part of the decisions to fund the wuhan lab in effect comes up they will lose their job, some of them didn't like donald trump and he said the chinese virus, others
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were concerned of what's happening with her trade relationship with china and they wanted to normalize the trade relationship and if the american people discovered that the virus came from china it was going to be hard to have normalize trade relationships, those are coming into play and that's why you saw the pushback. jackie: if you found out the virus came from china in your president of the united states have to do something because americans want countability, this president, we will see what may or may not happen, final question doctor anthony fauci should resign, some misconduct we've seen over the last year or so was not ethical. >> you mentioned at the start information about the three scientist from the wuhan lab that got sick why did he not ask for the a year end half ago, why is he starting right now, he had information that the virus could've come from the lab and he told us it was impossible and
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that led to another species to human, he lied about math, we've seen in his e-mails he has not been honest with the iraqi people, he's trying to gain account ability i don't think you get a back. dr. fauci had to wait until after the election because he knew if this information came out during the last administration he would've lost his job and that's what democrats with a friendly administration, they are the ones keeping his job but the mansion loser and he should be gone and thrown out, that the he deserves. jackie: is a good time as you mention this administration to release his book that he was riding. great to see you. for more let's bring in christian whiton, talking about china here stonewalling the wuhan lab leaks but americans deserve answers and they want them, the question would be
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we've got our answers, what will we do about it. >> assorted depends on what the answer would be, we should see reparation especially if there was more than pure accident or innocent on the part of the chinese, gain-of-function is a misleading term that involves manipulating the virus to made stronger and more infectious of humans that is no laughing matter and this is a virus that will have expedited the death of more than 4 million people around the world we could be talking about reparation of the order of trillions and trillions of dollars especially a million dollars of reparation of each life and economic decline or lost economic activity 15 - $25 trillion, not that that's likely but we ought to have that discussion when china has done has set back the world
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more than anything since world war ii. jackie: in one of his hearings on the hill anthony fauci talked about why it was important for the united states to contribute to this research because other coronavirus has come out of china and if we contributed to the research maybe we would get the answers regarding that that would help us with the future, however, the issue that those people would take, it's almost like you negotiated with communist, you give them this money you don't know what they're going to do, you don't know what's going to happen and if they're going to give you the answer you're looking for. >> there's two problems with that this is not being and receive only moaned for information that would've accrued anyway this is pouring gasoline on a fire, giving money to a lab in china by the state department own admission as revealed is not a particularly well-managed and organized and
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safe lab there is an interesting quirk in the story, one of the researchers at this lab or who was involved in the lab filed a patent for coronavirus vaccine in february of 2020 before this really went quite large and before it became a clear worldwide pandemic, then he mysteriously died, he did research for the military he was also on the receiving end of nih grants, why are we dealing with these people in the chinese military. jackie: bring up a great point, mike pompeo has talked about this and discussed it's going to be difficult to find the evidence that we are looking for especially as so much time has passed even if we could get access it would take 70 coming out of china somebody who is involved to uncover and debunk and talk about what happened in the lab, do you think that would be possible?
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>> it is possible but it might be difficult, the chinese appear to have control or perhaps i hate to speculate but even kill the gentleman that disappeared under mysterious circumstances, people who provide the human intelligence that being said we spent 50 - $000 million a year in our intelligence bureaucracy that is a whole lot of money and president biden has ordered him to come up with an answer as to where this thing came from but he said they may have opinions and may only issue of finding with moderate or less confidence. for that amount of money we pay these people to find out answers, you and i guess but they should have the capability whether it's technical or human beings. other than that the chinese are guilty until proven innocent because white cover up if you're not in fact guilty of doing something horribly wrong we think we would invite the world and is not the u.s. government with w.h.o. to talk to your people and see the record if you have nothing to hide.
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jackie: if you're not hiding something why when you be transparent to your point, great to see you i wish you a happy we can, thank you so much. why return to work in you getting paid not to, the may jobs report is flashing some warning signs that president biden added unemployment are hurting businesses struggling to find workers and one democrat lawmaker wants people to go back to work part-time but still keep the unappointed benefits. mitch roschelle ways and next when "the evening edit" continues. >> people have a lot of patience in the extra ordinary circumstances for the past year end half but at some point all those people who have been working and are working and not taking money from the government not to work are going to get ticked off about this, it's ticked off about this, it's wildly unfair. ♪ na na na na ♪ na na na na...
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benefits for slow employment growth, this is democrat michigan governor gretchen whitmer allowing part-time workers to keep the unappointed benefits, is that a smart move let's ask founding partner mitra shall, it's great to see you, i thought it was crazy to pay them to stay home the rest of the summer but it's crazy to say go back to work part-time but keep the benefits. >> crazy i would say worse but this is family television, this goes on, it ends at labor day, isn't that ironic, i think that is absolutely positively what is suppressing the jobs numbers in the biden administration can deny all they want is not any good love evidence that that is what is happening. jackie: part of the problem even though the unemployment rates went down the issue isn't necessarily everybody's getting
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back to work some people have completely disappeared from the workforce that is a matter of fact a chamber of commerce pole of unemployed americans revealed that there are return to work barriers that the survey shows many newly reported 9.3 million unemployed may never return to work and i'll point out the chamber endorsed biden's policies, the spending, all of this brought about the circumstances and now they're sounding the alarm bell, your thoughts. >> he goes deeper there's a study that came out from morning consult of a thousand people that they interviewed if their bosses, these people are employed if they demanded that they went back to the office and stopped working remotely that they would quit, half of them said that. i think there's a whole lot of disconnects about what work really is and you kind of would not know what if you look at how
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robust the economy is that we can continue the economic growth that we expect to continue if we don't want people working, the fip this week said small businesses that were surveyed half said they're having a hard time finding work and that's a problem for small business. jackie: this is a part of the problem it's not incrementally going to get better but it's going to get difficult as you laid out, the second part of the problem once we get through labor day for example in more people have to come back to work in this economy does get chugging again now you're talking about an administration that is looking to tax and spend. >> 100% they are starting to backpedal on some of it because i think the president wants to make a deal on infrastructure but the fact of the matter is you cannot tax business, business is already taxed and quite frankly with inflation
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that is a tax on all americans and its regressive in the working class the most, bad policy is going to lead to bad outcome. jackie: it's funny that you talk about taxing businesses, what happens when you tax businesses you might have to lay off workers. >> history has proven that there's only two things businesses can do when the costs go up, one passes along to the consumer while these businesses already have enough costs going up the only other thing that they can do is cut cost and the only cost would be people. jackie: great to see you, have a wonderful weekend. coming up former new york city police commissioner tells us what he thinks about congresswoman aoc for stopping the violent crime and violence that is ravaging cities across america. stay with us. >> government has to keep us safe it is the most important
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guns in 2020, hillary vaughn is live in arlington virginia with the details. >> firearm sales are on fire retailers around the country are having a hard time keeping inventory on the shelves, we are here in arlington. and what's happening around the country, the national sports foundation says there were 8.4 million people that bought the guns a very first time last year. >> we have had 2 - 3% increase in sales over the year, there is a large percentage of new gun owners that never touched a firearm in their life. >> what is driving the arms race in america, they say it's fear take a look at the numbers behind the rising crime in the last year students in new york city up 77%, shootings were up
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120% portland compared to the year before, a new site that tracks gun purchases, in 2020 gun sales were up 64% in the highest month in june right when rioting, looting and protest were gripping the nation. >> they said this is largely were on the people are concerned of the safety and the ability to be able to respond to a 911 call and they're gonna have to be their own persons responder. >> the fbi said this year they recorded a record-breaking number for background checks for gun sales one point to million and that's the highest fbi has seen in over to two decades. jackie: thank you so much for that as we see a surge in crime comes a battle in some states to
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defend the police versus putting more cops on the street, let's talk about that more with new york cup police commissioner howard safir, good evening. i'm going to start with this a piece that i read on aoc talking about the way to decrease violent crime and she has an argument that she's making that this is a mental health issue. >> if it wasn't so serious it's laughable. to the best of my knowledge aoc has zero experience in criminal justice or law enforcement. that is such a naïve expression of what to do with crime the reason crime is up is because the defunding movements in the black lives matter movements and anti, and the fact that the leftist politicians are sending the criminals we don't have to
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be concerned with us is no certainty of the getting arrested and getting billed out right away what needs to be fixed as law enforcement needs to give the authority and he knows how to use, right now criminals are not afraid of police and we talk about shootings they are up 87% and homicides are up and shooting is a homicide with bad aim and is a very serious situation. jackie: that's a very good point and across the country you got liberal cities that are approaching this in all different ways and continuing to defend the police then try to reform the system. i'm getting read to you in asheville city the council voted to have certain crimes essentially not be crimes of the police should respond to were talking about theft under $1000, and a vehicle where there is no suspect information and minimal damage and graffiti to property, that kind of thing and you think
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of a fraud scam and identity theft you think about what's happened with bill reform, you think about defunding the police and even with aoc saying stop building jails and you ask yourself what is happening is a policy that is encouraging people and crimes. >> they are, we are listening when i say we the politicians in the cities are listening to the loudest voices from the radical movements and by not responding to the crime that you talked about assumes as those criminals don't commit other crimes, we know many studies of lots of experience that will commit larger crimes, the problem that were sending a message that it is okay you don't have to worry about the police and on the other hand we are putting restrictions on police and qualified immunity to protect
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police and their families, this is a national crisis and it's only going to get worse and for the people that server law enforcement, don't let the politicians serve the cities, they will perish. jackie: gun sales rising, what you make of those numbers i personally look at that and i can make two different cases for what is happening but i want to hear your thoughts first. >> my thoughts are good citizens in this country are afraid, they are afraid that police will not be able to respond in their exercising their second amendment rights and looking to protect themselves. i am not were a proliferation of guns but i also understand when you live in the city where your mayor says he's not sending the police ascending social workers, i would go buy a gun myself. jackie: it is terrifying and people are responding in that way and there's a lot of folks that feel that the burden should not fall on them i know a lot of people that applied for gun permits but they don't want to gun in their home.
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>> it is very dangerous and that you could hurt not only the criminals but yourself and the point is the people who are leading the cities are not facing up to responsibility. we work very hard in new york when i was police commissioner to make it the safest largest city in america, sadly it is going back to the good old days, graffiti everywhere, it's a disgrace. jackie: it's funny that you said that when you were talking about work that you are doing i was going to call that the good old days those of the good days that i remember living in the city. great to see you, thank you. jackie: up next north face is refusing to make jackets for texas oil and gas company reportedly because it doesn't want to be associated with fossil fuel, one big problem with the reasoning wall street journal john bussey helps us
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gives not only an extraordinary customer of the oil and gas industry, their partner with the oil and gas industry. jackie: here to weigh in wall street journal associate editor john buffy, great to see you. the ad kind of says it all, your reaction to that. >> it makes it look bad for north face that they say we don't want to be associated with your brand you're in the oil and gas business because we like to be associated with things that are viewed as renewable energy and sensitive to climate change and supportive of the environment but as you point out a lot of the products that north fakes makes for the activities that it encourages outside we drive to those activities or we have skis that are made out of petroleum products, that is the marketing advertising problem for north face, it's going to be an issue for all of us as the
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country moves towards renewable energy over the next several decades, you might have an electric car right now and that's a positive thing but reflect that you're plugging in at night and you're getting electricity from a coal-fired plant down the road, there won't be glitches in moments of inconsistency as this transition takes place. jackie: north face is being called out for hypocrisy on the specific situation, let's talk about why companies feel such pressure to align themselves or present themselves as aligned with renewable energy even when they are using fossil fuels and their product that's what i find fascinating about this, it is the messaging and the pressure to present yourself in a certain way. >> is a pressure from all sides on all issues, there are companies that associate
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themselves with several different social issues, political issues, voter suppression, gay marriage, that will be on both sides of those issues and that's because they're catering to stakeholders stakeholders might be their employees, their customers and that might be shareholders and the board, you are seeing this more and more in corporate activity companies taking a step forward into social issues in the past they might've avoided, for north face you might ask yourself, maybe they would be happier if they handed the 400 jackets over to the oil services company and called it a day because her getting bad publicity for north face and might be a plus but those people is trying to attract to its brand, younger people, people who are environmentally conscious they may see north face is stepping up to the oil
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industry, the oil industry in the fossil fuel industry has helped build a 22 trillion-dollar economy in the united states but on the politicized issue from a marketing standpoint it might not be a negative for north face. jackie: in the last minute i want to talk about fossil fuel in general when you look at the data u.s. production is going down and we are starting to import because of the different policies essentially giving our fossil fuel business away when president trump was trying to keep it at home the bottom line we will not switch to renewables overnight so for the time. i know fossil fuels are evil in this country but wouldn't you want those jobs and salaries to stay here. >> fossil fuels are not evil in this country and i think most people embrace this as a transition. that will take decades. i think the country is conscious of the fact that fracking might release more methane into the atmosphere that we like, might cause seismic activity, on the other hand it's a tremendous
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boom to the united states economically in a job standpoint. i think most americans look at this from a business standpoint relies there is great advantage in the united states being oil independent and gas independent from the rest of the world. you are going to have the structures in these conflicts in these arguments but on the whole the united states tainted a very good position from an energy standpoint and will be a leader as time goes along in this transition to renewables takes place over time it will have to become cheaper and more available to more people but over time it is clearly trajectory that's going to take hold in the u.s. jackie: i hope you are right that it takes time and the prices come down in the administration doesn't force us to make this move before were ready as a nation but we will see how it plays out. thank you so much.
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new details in the hunter biden investigation new e-mails revealing potential pay for play for ukraine officials and following hillary clinton campaign media president adam guillette is with us next. >> what is most infuriating about the story is not the hunter biden is a terrible person, it is that the media continues to ignore the story even as new facts emerge, last year when the new york post first reported on hunter biden laptop twitter blocked the story from being shared and said it was fake news, mainstream media journalist said it was russian disinformation with no evidence of that claim at all will now all true and hunter biden laptop all true and hunter biden laptop and the media refuses to cover
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consulting firm linked to the president's son for potential illegal lobbying consulting firm blue star reportedly took on ukrainian company burisma as a client when hunter biden was a burisma board member now fox news has learned through e-mail that a former ukrainian prosecutor claimed that he had been hitched by blue star to give him access to high levels of the hillary clinton campaign in the weeks leading up to the 2016 presidential election accuracy in media president adam guillette. this sound really interesting to me that burisma would try to obtain this kind of information, what you suppose they were looking for. >> it's hard to say because the stories never end with hunter biden he is the gift and investigative journalist keeps on giving that is my question
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where is the new york times and the washington post, all of their resources on the story nowhere to be found it came to conservative activist organization to go through the e-mails and find the sort of thing in journalism as we know it is dead these folks are reading clickbank headlines and not interested in breaking the stories they don't want to cover the hunter biden stuff. jackie: when it came to the other side the russian probe and what it costs our country what we had to go through, as you mentioned a media outlet they see us and they shrug and they just don't care. >> they don't, their posers it's make-believe they're the same at new york times and cnn but they're not journalist anymore the living off the credibility of journalist who existed before them the writing clickbank headlines because they know that is what the readers want to read even if the anti-conservative stories are not true in the
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doing activist journalism to advance their ideas, they're not interested in speaking truth to power and interested in holding people accountable, there interesting in pushing an agenda and it is sickening. jackie: what you do in the case that we find ourselves for example when it comes to hunter biden laptop and all of a sudden social media shuts it down because those moments that a story breaks are very crucial for people to make decisions and think about whether it's something that they want to mentally pursue and see where this goes but you have twitter and facebook stomping that conversation out. >> it's a terrifying time that we live in, the progressives instead of governing by legislation the government corporation they cannot pass a law banning free speech so they counter their allies in silicon valley to stamp out any viewpoints that they don't like it businesses or sports organizations are coca-cola does not behave the way that they like they bully them into
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backing down it is government corporation and using that to stamp up the freedoms that we hold dear it is a terrifying time that we live in and we need to speak out against it and putting pressure on the corporations so they know that we will not back down easy. jackie: adam guillette, thank you so much good to see you tonight. just ahead on the show the biden border crisis is spiraling out of control former ice director tom homan helps us make sense of new details of a gunfight between border agents and suspected cartel members, stay with us. >> this is a violent situation that were seen on our southern border weedy national leadership that will rise to the occasion with a sense of urgency and were not enough of the president vice president the governor has invited them to come down to see was happening on the border but these cartels as we find every single day are wreaking violence and mayhem on border communities in texas and paying the bill, it in texas and paying the bill, it is becoming a ♪ na na na na
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tiffin for themselves in these harsh conditions, now the terrifying new development to border patrol agent exchanging gunfire was suspected cartel members along the us-mexico border in texas, agents fortunately were not injured but the fbi investigating this incident let's discuss all of this with former acting ice director tom homan, border crisis created by the biden the administration keeps getting worse and i don't say this likely or make a joke but it sounds like the wild west down there. >> it's going to get worse, when title 42 ends all adults will be rushing up border in trying to get into the united states. if you look at past data from border patrol on average every year, 20 - 23% of all border crossers are convicted criminals there will be more criminals, more drugs and more people coming across the border, the worst is yet to come.
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jackie: we look at the wall and there were many people in this country that said that walls help and they deter this kind of activity $2 billion still sitting there in a bank waiting to finish the wall and president biden will not allow it to happen. >> another example the president of biden and is a administration doesn't want us to secure the border and how quickly that they can be these people not overcrowded border patrol cities, they call that a win by releasing people quicker and faster, that is going to entice more people to come to just be released into the united states, at taxpayer expense, my administration needs to talk to border patrol agents, look at the data, walls work every place they built a wall you legal immigration went down in illegal drug went down, 100% of the time, they want to secure the border and live up to what they
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say that they want to secure the border the new border wall makes sense. right now the secretary has never asked us single portable truck into about the wall because they do not want to do it they call the trump's wall. jackie: walls do work if that's your objective to deter people from trying to illegally cross the border and to deter all the activity, there is a school of thought out there saying the reason that kamala harris has not taken any action to do anything about this is because the administration has a very specific agenda item here and the more they allow this to happen the better for the narrative in the agenda that they're trying to push that comes to changing voter demographic. >> absolutely you have to remember why also divided a administration, they overturn the trump's census rules which means thousands of people being released will be counted in the
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go to sanctuary cities many more seats in the house for the democrats which leads to electoral college and knowing that the vets can become citizens. they will hit all these people as future democratic borders. they have no intention to secure the border this is an open order agenda this is their design and kamala harris is the most secure border she compared ice ages to kkk and said agents were inhumane to those across the border, she won't legislation as a senator to reward, she has no intention like the president and say it's up to the secretary to secure the border, they want to -- where is everybody crossing right now, there's not a wall. jackie: i want to talk about the numbers of the viewers can have a sense of happening, 111,000 single adult migrants taken into
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custody in april, the highest total since more than a decade and a underscore when i'm communicating that point to people but those of the migrants and we caught not the ones who got her crossed that were not upper heaven did by the system, you have to to recognize the magnitude. >> border patrol unintelligent said between 101,500 is apprehended every day that's what we need to be worried about the family and children turning themselves over, they turned themselves over but the cartel and border patrol resources so the cartel can move the job people that don't want a interested, that is where your fentanyl comes from, over 62000 americans died from fentanyl overdose, the cartels control the border in their using a humanitarian crisis to create a national secured crisis. jackie: for the state that share
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the border looking for what could've been a real happy summer, we got out of the pandemic, it could be a tough one for them, tom homan i thank you for your time and toys free to talk to you. jackie: i'm jackie deangelis and for elizabeth macdonald you are watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us and we thank you for watching a mick mulvaney and president trump and just moments to get his input was the wuhan laboratory theory gaining momentum new allegations that state officials were stonewalling an investigation. we'll have more on the fallout and searching for an out of this world explanation would children out dating about
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