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biden pushing for global corporate tax minimum. didn't our declaration of independence say something about taxation without representation? we'll get into that the cruise. industry charting its own course on vaccine requirements. we'll bring you the latest from the port of miami where royal caribbean is leading a new charge. a new york mom owning the school board what she says the school is doing to our kids. listen. >> public know that you're teaching our children to go out and murder our police officers. do you want the proof? i have the proof. you work for me. i don't work for you. i will fight. and i'm not, this is not the last of mee you will see. david: it is not the last of her you will see. you don't want to miss the rest of an epic takedown. that is later in the show. more infrastructure talks getting underway today. new concerns even if president biden and the gop make a deal, supply and worker shortages will stop any plans right in their

tracks. fox business's blake burman is live from the white house with the very latest. blake? >> hi, there, david, good afternoon. president biden is expected to have a phone call at some point today with the top republican negotiator, shelley moore capito. it's a pivotal moment whether or not both sides, democrats, the white house, and republicans come together in some sort of a deal. the last offer, the latest offer, senate republicans added another $50 billion to the pot but the white house said that offer still did not meet the president's objectives. capito's colleague from west virginia, democrat quo manchin believes a deal can be reached. >> we need a bipartisan infrastructure bill. we most definitely need that. infrastructure is something delayed for far too long by past administrations. time for us to move forward. i think we can come to the compromise where we find a bipartisan deal. i'm very confident of that.

reporter: if both sides are able to strike a roughly trillion dollar deal, some are questioning if the labor force right now is robust enough to handle that as there are roughly 8 million job openings across the country. jeff ferry, the coalition for a prosperous america and is concerned with global supply chain issues. >> no question about that. we need to spend this money but we need to spend the money within the united states and that we rebuild manufacturing and we address the shortages where they are by creating the incentives for companies to invest here and rebuild our manufacturing capability. reporter: david we believe this will be a phone call between senator biden and senator cap pit toe. the white house not saying exactly when that might happen. we'll hear from press secretary jen psaki later this hour. david: thank you, blake.

eventually the middle class will have to pay not just the corporations or the rich folk. we have maya maginnis. i want to talk about something broader related to the tax. conceding tax policy, at least a part of it to foreigners. our declaration of independence is very clear. a lot had to do taking back the power of taxation from foreigners. that was our declaration of independence. are we ceding that point of our declaration now in this new tax policy. >> i think that is a legitimate point. i do. i think it means we're looking at this issue globally rather than nationally and there's real pros and cons to that approach but what i will say in defense of it, at the same time while we want to compete with foreign countries the reason we want to compete is not because of our tax regime but the quality of our products what we create here

in the u.s. david: right. >> i think we would be very competitive if not undercut due to tax and additional benefit policies. david: brexit is still in peoples minds. people understood why the british wanted to separate from these faceless bureaucrats who were more and more running their regulatory policies and even getting into their fiscal policies and it seems like we're going down a route the british just exited from? >> yes it absolutely does a coordination between a number of countries we most importantly, china is not engaging in these discussions. that would have profound effects. we have to think about in what ways that is giving away power. you want to think about leveling the playing field. there are some approaches that make sense here. overall it will be a very difficult negotiation with all of these countries. one thought i have, before we start raising taxes what about collecting all the taxes are owed? one of the things out there is

probably hundreds of billions of dollars taxes owed that are not paid that seems like a smarter way for the economy and our own autonomy that seems like the starting point before raising taxes in any different part of the economy. david: i think a better starting point is shrinking government, not increasing it to the administration wants. there is another part of this policy, it is sort of a i will give you this, if you give me that. the part that janet yellen our treasury secretary was conceding for getting a minimum tax was essentially this digital tax that donald trump was very resistant to giving in on. she was sort of giving ground on that possibility. here is what "the wall street journal" said about that. ms. yellen appears to acquiesce to european demands that the tax be tailored so narrowly will apply to u.s. digital companies, u.s. digital companies, not the large european manufacturers. in doing so she is surrendering washington's ability to tax american companies as congress

sees fit. what do you think of that? >> well i think that's right. in many way this is digital tax is very, very targeted and ending up falling on the u.s. in a way that probably the reason it is not broader because international tax policy is so complicated that in of itself is part of the problem, the least understood part of the tax code. there is lots of room for gaming, for loop hopes but i think there will be real concerns. my guess that won't go through as planned because it falls too heavily on the u.s. david: right. >> as an aside, your point about spending cuts, we haven't heard about anything about spending cuts we should talk about as the government is expanding massively f we want to bring the debt down it doesn't have to be taxes but spending cuts. david: how do you pay for things even the trillions spent so far are kind of hard to pay for even with the most draconian tax plans.

corporate taxes we should mention only comprise 7% of the entire revenues. the idea you will pay, for example, for this infrastructure plan of president biden's assuming they get a deal with corporate taxes, that is pie-in-the-sky. corporate taxes won't amount to enough to pay for that plan, will it? that is why we're worried the middle class will eventually end up paying for this thing. >> the reason that capital is highly, highly mobile and it is really difficult to tax capital as it can move around the world. that's we've seen. we can try to tax more of it to avoid other taxes if people don't like corporate taxing. but reality the costs are born on us, consumers, workers, shareholders. we shouldn't pretend it is invisible tax somewhere else. corporate taxation has become more difficult over the years. which is why it's a declining share of.

nobody likes any kind of taxes. there will be pushback on different options. we do need to start paying for what we're spending. with he could think about spending cuts is one option. or collecting revenues we already owe before as another option before we look at major new increases that may be difficult to implement. david: frankly un-american. a lot of people are talking about the wealth tax. or perhaps a value-added tax, importing from the europeans, a tax plan that europeans themselves, the common man on the street doesn't like at all because it increases prices, doubles prices in many cases just about everything you buy. but we got to leave it there. >> the promise finding a tax any common man likes. none of us love paying taxes. we do like the spending. we have to get numbers to add up somehow. david: thank you very much. how will all the higher taxes and a new international bureaucracy of tax saying affect markets and the economy? we have annandale george seay

and capitalist pig jonathan hoenig. some faceless bureaucracy somewhere in the world, does that appeal to you, my friend. >> no, david, that is terrible writ large. this economy under president biden and janet yellen seems to be going off the rail. david, they're encouraging inflation. they want to create the inflation. they warrant to destroy the dollar. only 40 gears ago president ford called inflation public enemy number one. this inflation is tax on most vulnerable and least wealthy under all of us. under president biden we're heading into the wrong direction. more taxing, more spending a weaker dollar. david: clearly what janet yellen is trying to do, george, with this minimum corporate rate of 15%, to cut off a exit route for

corporations spooked by higher taxes here in the united states. we have a 28% tax on corporations about to come if it is approved by congress. so by lowering the minimum corporate tax rate worldwide, she is trying to prevent can companies from going to a place where it would be cheaper. will that succeed. i mean is that possible? or will corporations find some way of avoiding this higher corporate tax here? >> there has been a surprising amount of resistance, david, to higher taxes during this, during this session of congress. i was surprised how with the democrats controlling the senate and the house they just didn't sweep all this through, there is quite a bit of resistance. people are realizing taxes just can't go to the moon. they have to stop at someplace and i don't think they're going to get the 28% tax rate on corporations. senator manchin has indicated he won't go for that. if they get any kind of a raise it will be much smaller and a

bigger philosophical issue, do we really give up tax policy to globals, global groups instead of maintaining our sovereignty and instead of consider having control over tax rates here domestically? that is big issue. that is bad trend to give it up to some unknown global group that will set taxes for corporations and there will be a lot of resistance to that and hard to maintain. david: if you care at all about the declaration of independence that is that simple. jonathan a question how they pay for all the spending. even if they don't get the infrastructure bill and other plans, trillion dollar plans biden administration has, higher inflation is already something that americans are concerned about. they see it at the gas tank. see it at grocery store with all kinds of prices. administration says it is temporary. janet yellen said it could be a good thing to have inflation and higher interest rates.

sheave said that recently. what do you think about that? i don't think americans feel that same way, you do? >> this was a major problem 50 years ago for the economy and janet yellen around federal reserve saying we need more inflation. their track record is terrible. in 1913 purchasing power of one dollar. now it is $26 today. they haven't even protected the purchasing power of the dollar let alone created the global financial crisis and prolonged the great depression. central planning is terrible when the federal reserve does it. it is even more terrible and janet yellen is headed exactly on the wrong path. david: george, we were talking eventually the taxes will be paid by the middle class. that is exactly what inflation does. inflation is away of government offloading all their expensive spending plans on to the middle class, isn't it? >> it is really ironic to my that the biden administration and the democrats who claim to be the party of the little guy and the little gal, people that have the lowest margin of error

in society put out all the policies that hit the middle class, lower middle class and the poor the worst. when you have inflationary policies it hits on the vital spending items whether gasoline or food or electricity or things like that, people with the least amount of income have the hardest time paying. david: right. >> that is what inflation will do, hit the folks hardest. david: by the way small businesses as well. that is the thing, big corporations are ones that usually can absorb most of the inflation hits. small businesses are run out of business, isn't that right, jonathan? >> david we talked about the cost of a new home has gone up $20,000 because of exactly that and inflation. the democrats are playing that class warfare. evil corporations they will pay the tax. in reality, corporate taxes david, are paid by employees in terms by lower wages and all of us by consumers as higher prices. david: that is a great point. >> there is no such thing as a

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♪ david: vice president kamala harris is on the ground in guatamala right now on a two-day trip to address what the white house calls, the root causes of the border crisis. our fox news correspondent bryan llenas is live in guatamala city with the very latest. bryan. reporter: david, good afternoon. just a few moments vice president kamala harris and guatamala's president will meet at the national palace behind me. though will have a press conference, answer some tough questions. the reality the u.s. is proposing a 4 billion-dollar plan to help spur economic growth here to keep migrants from wanting to flee. at the same time guatamala is stepping up its enforcement of the border in return.

reality corruption remain as huge sticking point. money here is hard to find in these communities. we visited via, the second largest city, home to largest slum, 400,000 guatemalans displaced by natural disasters and lack of john opportunities. the u.s. spent $1.7 billion of aid in guatamala since 2010. the results are hard to find. people making two dollars a day. this is the last stop before deciding whether or not or not they flee the country. 35-year-old mayor says the national government is simply corrupt. so what you're saying is, what you need is infrastructure you? need drainage. you need roads. you need schools? you need all of that? you want the money to go directly to your mayor, because you trust your mayor? [speaking in native tongue] because if they go through any other hands that goes through other places and not here where it is needed.

the private business sector is doing everything they can to attract u.s. businesses. this is a company that is private industrial park trying to convince companies to move the manufacturing here. alternative to china. it is duty free. there are no capital-gains taxes at this park, listen. pcifico hopes to employ 75,000 people operating 100 warehouses like this one. four are set open in january, including this 100,000 square foot space which i will be operated by an agricultural fertilizer company, which intends employees to pack, ship, manufacture its product right here in guatamala. david look, there are u.s. companies investing here. coca-cola, pepsico, 3m, investments from walmart. the reality u.s. investment on the business front is $200 million a year. that is down big time and reality they make more money here in this country,

$13 billion is sent from guatemalans who live and work in the u.s. back to the families here. it's a system broken which honestly it encourageses the exportation of people instead of goods. david: it is happening all over central america and mexico. wonderful reporting, bryan. great stuff. thank you very much. i appreciate that. joining us now retired acting i.c.e. director, former chief of border patrol ron vitiello. ron, i'm sure you heard that report from bryan. it's clear, and i covered the region for 12 years. i know how money we've sent in good conscience to latin america and elsewhere goes almost directly to swiss bank accounts. so the corruption is real. it hasn't changed much. and yet our vice president is in guatamala talking to the leaders about sending money to guatemala. does that make sense? >> yeah. it's a bit of here we go again. we've seen this movie, we know how it ends.

as bryan's report says billions of dollars have been sent in u.s. aid to that part of the world, guatamala, specifically. what do we get for it? we get a surge of migrants on the border, multiple times, 2014, 2018, 2019 and one now. there is incentive talked about. there is incentive. we're encouraging people all over the globe, not just guatemala. we're encouraging parents to send their children to the border alone. why? because they come into custody for cpb, for a brief stay and get placed with family members in the united states. in the surge of 2014, nine plus percent of kids in 2014, was smaller problem but they're still here. the way the policy is reversed, the way the law is operational, we're incenting this at the border. david: what will solve the border. >> what solvedded it before, if you came into the country under whatever circumstance, you came into asylum i am legally, you

got a due process. you were detained until you saw the judge. he or she made a decision. then you were sent back. close the loop on this activity you get less of it. it happened in 2006. it happened in 2014. it happened at the end of 2019. january 20th, 21, they reversed policy of remain in mexico program, migrant protocols and we get a big surge at the border. cpb was overwhelmed in february, march, a bit of april. here it comes. we're still doing it. david: ron, i have to ask. there has been a lot of talk about the fact that vice president harris is in guatemala. she is not at the border f she goes to the border though, you know how some of the trips are arranged. chances are they have the photo shoots in ideal setting where kids are being treated very well. there is plenty of room, et cetera, she won't be talking to the border patrol actually

having all the problems. that is a cynical view of things but is there truth to that? >> you might be right f they don't set up the right kind of experience for her it will not be helpful. she will not learn where the challenges are. when i was the leader in government i wanted to go to the front line, i wanted to see what my workforce was being challenged with. it could have that aspect. it could give her an idea. it could get solutions that public up from the field. how we make things better. i would encourage her to do it. i know the workforce would really appreciate it. david: the workforce, frankly a lot of farmers around business people on the borders who are worried about the their property and businesses going forward, we'll see if it happens. i don't know how much longer she can put it off. ron vitiello, thanks for being here. appreciate it. >> thank you. david: so the biden administration facing questions today on covid's origins as two top scientists say all signs point to a lab leak. more on that right after this.

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origins. correspondent rich edson with the latest from the state department. rich. reporter: david, this is supposed to be about the state department's budget request for next year. you have and i have been doing this covering congressional hearings, members of these committees can and will ask whatever they want. there has been a focus on covid-19, the investigation here at the state department and what exactly is going on internationally and to whether or not there will be an independent investigation in china, into the origins of this pandemic. they were asking the secretary just a short while ago, whether he believes this pandemic began in a wuhan lab? >> i can't put a percentage on it. i think there are two possible scenarios. one is the one you just described, that is emerged from the laboratory. we're pressing the world health organization to move forward with the phase two study to understand the origins. reporter: the problem the entity overseeing the world health

organization wrapped its meeting last week without securing an independent investigation into the china into the origins of the virus. world health organization visited wuhan earlier this year. the government controlled researchers access and officials say the chinese government is still with holding information. state department said they met resistance here investigating whether covid-19 escaped from a lab, though other officials defended the process saying they wanted to insure the evidence was sound. here the biden administration is conducting its oven investigation with the intelligence community. that is supposed to come back to bring some results at the end of august. also trying to push the world health organization but are still meeting resistance from the chinese government. david: surprise, surprise. rich, thank you very much. so the question of where covid-19 originated from has kedut she t t start ofst tst thi t pandemic hat w w dr. a d a dhonyhoauciaud

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people to keep the story quiet. sending people away to their death, doctors and stuff. was there negligence on our part to take them at face value? >> i'm not sure we really did that. i still don't think we know what the truth of the matter is. what i would say about mr. biden's commitment to come up with something in 90 days, that is a very short period of time to investigate this issue properly. i'm quite confident you can't get it done in 90 days. and secondly, ultimately getting to the bottom of this is going to require more cooperation from the people as republic of china which up until this point, i don't think been sufficiently forthcoming. it has probably not been forthcoming at all. there is a lot of work to be done to get to the bottom of this. david: be clear how non-forthcoming they have been. they had a w.h.o. investigation in which the chinese government

kept out any independent investigators. they came out with a report which was basically insufficient at best, deceptive at worst, and now they say that's it. we're not going to allow anymore investigations. we had our investigation. now you have to investigate whether the covid-19 originated in the united states. >> look, you know, this is where we got to get to the bottom of the matter but secondly in order to prevent future outbreaks of this kind the world really needs sort of a global monitoring, monitoring and surveillance system and that cannot be done without the cooperation of china. in addition to a lot of other countries in the world. so, if they're going to have that kind of an attitude i don't think that portends well for cooperation on these issues in the future as well. so, ultimately this is going to

require two things, an international effort on the one hand, surveillance, monitoring, groups of scientists to study these questions. secondly, it will have to have more cooperation from the peoples republic of china. that has to be high on our agenda to get their cooperation. david: i don't know how, you're a diplomat. i've known you more than 30 years when you were an ambassador in honduras. you've been a diplomat all your life but i don't see how you break through their barriers. they said no. they refused to allow any independent investigators in the first place. now they say forget about it. there was real questions what was going on in that lab. their behavior lead as lot of people to believe they're hiding something. whether something on one end of the spector, severe creating bio weapons. i don't rule that out entirely. i don't think you should rule anything out right now based on their refusal to cooperate. >> i don't rule it out either

but i would ask you also to look at the context of the relationship. it is a particularly frosty time in the united states-china relations. relations have taken a turn for the worst in the last several years. so if you put this issue in that context you know the explanation may simply believe whatever the americans find out they will use it against us. it is kind of a double-whammy if you will. but how do we walk that back and get to some kind of a more stable and cooperative relationship with the peoples republic ever china over the longer term? i don't underestimate the difficulties accomplishing that. that in fact is what is going to have to be accomplished. david: it is an extraordinary challenge for united states diplomats and, frankly dip diplomats from the vatican and united states working out good relations with the chinese

communist party in the past. that is tougher nut to crack than any diplomatic nut in the world. i give you last word, quickly. >> the last word, okay, the lab theory may have validity but on the other hand i think more effort needs to be made in terms of epidemiology and virology, studies, whether this might have occurred naturally somewhere. the study, more extensive studies in china, southeast asia, elsewhere, to see if this virus occurred in a natural state. david: so far their behavior seems to indicate otherwise but that is just my observation. good to see you, ambassador. thank you so much for coming here. >> good to see you, thank you. david: coming up, more "coast to coast." stay tuned. ♪. some say this is my greatest challenge.

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david: well, help is on the way. taiwan will be among the first group of nations to receive some of the surplus doses of american covid vaccines. fox news correspondent jonathan scary has the details for us from atlanta. hey, jonathan. reporter: hi, there, david. yeah, a combination of charity and also strategic partnerships. taiwan slated to receive initially 750,000 doses of unused american covid-19 vaccines, after getting through the early pandemic relatively unscathed. the island is now experiencing a spike in cases. taiwanese officials say previous efforts to obtain vaccines internationally have been hampered by china which claims taiwan as its own. three u.s. senators visited taiwan over the weekend in a show of bipartisan support. >> last year a global pandemic came from wuhan, china, that was characterized by a lack of

transparency and a lack of international cooperation by the chinese communist party. reporter: here in the u.s. health officials are urging younger teens to get vaccinated although they are at low risk for complications. hospitalizations for this group increased this spring and the cdc found among adolescents who were hospitalized during the early part of this new year, nearly 1/3 of them had to be admitted to the icu and 5% required mechanical ventilation. fortunately no one in this very small group died. david, covid vaccines of course are currently approved for children 12 years old and older. right now researchers are looking into the proper dosing for even younger kids. david? david: jonathan serrie, thank you very much, jonathan. protesting woke curriculum. coming up the lengths some private school parents are going to in order to keep critical race theory out of schools.

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♪. david: a group of new york city parents say they're done with woke curriculum and are taking a unique approach to getting their message across. fox news correspondent eric shawn is live in new york city with the latest on this. hi, eric. reporter: hi, david.

you know those big billboard trucks that the ones drive around city streets hawk everything from beer to fast-food to political candidates. manhattanites this morning when they took their kids to the fancy private schools, they got a new message. it was an anti-woke message for those schools. a group that calls itself, the prep school accountability, well they reportedly claim that they're paying $10,000 to park billboard trucks in front of six elite private schools here in new york city. you're looking at one in front of dalton on the upper east side. those schools have been in the public eye recently for teaching sensitive subjects from critical race theory to other issues dealing with gender issues and such, so they have been the talk of manhattanites from park avenue to the hamptons. on its website the group claims, quote in recent years a new orthodoxy has emerged at our schools, dividing our communities based on immutable characteristics such as race,

ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation. as a result the core tenets of quality education have again by the wayside. many minority students and others pointed out that the privilege schools have ignored teaching of contributions of many minority americans. those schools have not been sensitive enough to diversity issues or the views of non-white americans. fox news reached out to the group, prep school accountability. we asked for a interview. we only dealt with the web master. as of now we cannot confirm who they are, what the group is, who purports to fund it or support it. who exactly is behind it. we asked for an interview to get more information. as of now fox news has not been able to confirm supposed private school parents are backing this are who they say they are. we'll get back to you with answers. david: paying $50,000 a year, a

lot are mad as hell that the school is not doing what they thought it would be doing. eric, thank you very much. an upstate new york parent is slamming her district's public school board for pushing critical race theory and other so-called woke issues. listen to this. >> stop indoctrinating our children. you're teaching my children and other children that if they believe in god almighty they're part of a cult. why can't we let the public know that you're teaching our children to go out and murder our police officers. do you want the proof? i have the proof. is that what scares you, the proof? that is parent actually standing up against all of you? you work for me. i don't work for you. this is still a america, ma'am. and as long as i'm standing here on this good ground earth of god i will fight. this is not the last of me you will see. david: wow. she went on for about ten minutes. we did reach out to the school board on this. have not heard back from them yet. they're welcome to come.

get to children's scholarship fund president darla rumful. this is one of those, i'm mad as hell i'm not going to take it anymore moments. you can see people going to the windows, shouting the same thing this woman was. i think this is a growing voice of resistance that is reverberating all through america. what do you think? >> well i think it is really important to note here this is a mother speaking and to hear the voice of parents. when our parents come to us looking for a scholarship they're looking for an education where their children get the schools and habits they can go on to have a successful life and they're not feeling helpless. they're feeling very hopeful about their futures. you sort of hear helplessness in this woman's voice but she has got a voice. she is making it heard. i think one way you can make a lot of voiceses heard, if parents have school choice, if they have the option, if we fund children and not systems that parent could just take her child

and go somewhere else to get a different education. you notice the private schoolkids on upper east side, their parents are able to do something. a lot of parents in this country don't have the resources to be able to do that. david: i'm just wondering how difficult it is going to be. assuming this is a growing movement, that it is not going to stop, sort of like the tea party movement in 2010. it does develop into something, they're going to have to uproot a lot of very deep roots that have been implanted by teachers unions who are getting hundreds of billions of dollars from covid bailout. it is not going to be easy. >> right. but you know, one of the interesting things that came out of this pandemic is that you have, parents saw up close what their kids were being taught and how they were being taught. david: true. >> as a result of that parent have become very supportive of school choice, whether you're black or white. about 80% across the board are supportive of school choice. you know what? legislators are listening n 13 states there have been five new

school choice bills passed. there have been eight additional ones that have been expanded. if you, like i go back to it again. if parents are given the power to do the business thing for their child, they will do it. if they don't want their child in a school teaching critical race theory, i think it is a bit of a distraction in a way. before covid only 1/3 of 8th graders reed at level. teaching critical race theory will improve that, not. do we want all kids, white or black proficient. david: it is three rs, reading, writing, arithmetic. that is what we certain kids to school, not critical race theory or crazy ever 1619 project. randy winegarten, some people think is the most moderate about teachers unions.

what she says about the 1619 project. there is nothing unpatriotic about our nation's past. the history has to be seen in all of its manifestations. that history is not white-washed. the 1619 project forces those who do not want to see to sigh. the problem what she says there is nothing clear-eyed about the 1619 project. historians from the left and right it is horrible history. it is not true. it paints the american project, the american revolution as dating back to just an effort to save slavery and nothing more. that's what the moderate aft is pushing. >> well there is also a 1776 project. i don't think we want to be, have a cancel culture where we cancel out the voice. i don't think we want to sugar coat racism that existed in this country. let's celebrate all the people able to go across barriers around do magnificent things.

have schools have a culture where every single child is looked at, seen, every child has so much god-given potential. we need to give them the skills so they can reach it. i think it is a distraction, because the public school system showed itself to be a pretty big failure this past year. david: yeah. >> if you want to take, distract yourself from the failures you find something else to pick on. i don't think we need to focus -- david: we have to leave it at that darla. amen to everything you said there. >> thank you. david: i appreciate it. coming up, one major cruise line already reversing course requiring vaccinations for passengers. we've got details you might want to check before you make the reservation. ♪ (vo) while you may not be running an architectural firm, ...

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movers are really having a hard time keeping up but first, to miami where royal caribbean is now reversing course on its vaccine requirements. fox news correspondent phil keating is at the port of miami with details. hi, phil. reporter: hey, david. yeah it's widely considered to be a bit of a cave by royal caribbean, just in order to appease the governor, and be able to once again resume sailing out of port miami, port everglades, and well this weekend the celebrity millennium became the very first american cruise line to take paying passengers through the caribbean since 15 months ago, when the pandemic hit and the cdc issued its no sail order but that ship did not depart from here at port miami, the capitol of the world for cruise ships. u.s. cruises from u.s. ports are still at least a couple of weeks away. the millennium left st. maarten saturday, on its way to barbados.

since this is an international-only cruise cdc guidelines don't apply but still all passengers 16 and older and 100% of the crew had to be vaccinated which is what the cdc wants and requires and the industry has mostly gone along with. there was covid testing available before boarding, on the ship and likely at some of the home countries for the day- trippers and the ship fully rigged with new air purifiers and abundance of disinfectant cleaning. about 700 passengers are on board the ship, that's just about 30% capacity. stuart sharone known as the cruise guy has gone on 277 cruises and he says this one , like none other. >> it's the first one out of the gate, so this is the first cruise that they have to test the safety protocols, and the on board safety mechanisms that have been put in place to ensure that the passengers and crew are healthy. this was the first one out of the gate. reporter: sailing from florida

ports remains influx and keep in mind florida has the top three ports for cruise ships, its evolving policy, the state of florida has filed a lawsuit against the cdc for its vaccine requirements, which, by state law, is now illegal. >> we're going to be sailing, hopefully very soon, but there's not been a single elected official in this country whose done more to liberate the cruise lines from a bureaucracy that is totally out of touch and that quite frankly is exercising authority that they do not possess under the law. reporter: either way, the cruise industry, people are buying tickets for cruises. royal caribbean's planning for a cruise from port miami june 20. the celebrity edge is set to sail from june 26 from port ever glades with vaccine requirements and seattle to

alaska cruises are starting jul. all of this really depends on what this tampa bay district court judge, a federal judge decides in this case between florida and the cdc. both sides trying to do mediation. that failed last week, so now, whatever the judge decides that will be the policy and the argument is who has the ultimate right dealing with cruise ships in u.s. ports, the state of florida or the federal government. david? david: cruise lines caught right in the middle between this battle phil thank you very much. now, to washington d.c., where the gop is adding up the cost of covid relief checks and they say that this is adding up to a lot of waste. fox business hillary vaughn is live on capitol hill with the latest on this , hi, hillary reporter: hi, david. well some republicans on capitol hill warned that some americans maybe becoming addicted to getting those government relief checks in the mail. the republicans on the house ways and means committee did the math to show just how much

taxpayer cash a family of four could have benefited from during the pandemic. with both parents out of work they would have been el in all to receive over $10 9,000 through stimulus checks, tax credits and other government relief. some senate democrats are asking the white house to keep those extra benefits in place to keep people out of poverty but republicans say that the extra cash is part of the problem that's contributing to the labor shortage. commerce secretary gina ramundo says she heard that but does not think that it's a factor. >> we hear it anecdotally, but i would say there's no evidence that they have significantly held back hiring. they will expire in september, and, you know, i think the economy will continue to strengthen, but make no mistake about it. they were necessary, and they were life lines. reporter: but those life lines came at a price, with trillions of new government spending already on the books, inflation concerns are now bubbling up.

former president trump gave his take on this on "varney" this morning. >> a long time ago when the world was cratering, and jimmy carter and all of this stuff, the things that were happening were not even believable, where interest rates were going up to 22%, prime rate was over 22% it's what's going on now is exactly the same but it's worse. it's much worse. reporter: president biden is not budging on new government spending. he wants another 1.7 trillion on his infrastructure plan, but republicans want to keep it in the billions, biden rejected the latest offer on friday, from republicans to go up another 50 billion making the gop offer for the infrastructure 978 billion total in spending, but biden will meet today with senator shelley moore capito, she's the lead gop negotiator trying to work out a deal with infrastructure and the white house they are speaking today.

if they aren't able to make a deal, david, there is also a bipartisan group of senators that are working on their own infrastructure package focusing on hard infrastructure, but even that price tag that's being floated around capitol hill doesn't reach the 1.7 trillion that biden wants. david? david: it's just amazing to hear these numbers thrown around hillary thank you very much. well, from federal spending to spending in the sunshine state. florida governor ron desantis just signing a $101.6 billion the bug its in that state's history with bonuses for teacher s, police, firefighters, and new construction projects at schools and colleges. this , after the governor vetoed more than $1 billion in federal aid that he said came with too many strings attached to it, but get this. it is all being done without a state income tax and without a state inheritance tax, reaction from new york post columnist carol markowicz. carol you and i come from a state which has a very big

income tax, and an inheritance tax, we spend a premium of 12% in taxes over what the folks in florida do, because of our income tax, and yet, we have a budget that's totally out of control. their budget is in control, and they don't have any tax. i mean, there's something wrong with this picture, at least from a taxpayer in new york' perspective, no? >> yeah, absolutely. you know, you look at the schools being opened in florida for the whole year, while our schools in new york were mostly closed. i mean, a lot of good all that tax money did it, but yeah, florida has been just a model for the rest of the country for the last year, plus, and governor desantis has been the model governor. i wish other governors would follow his lead and i wish we would all do the same things that florida is doing and i think this budget is interesting because i think the pandemic bonuses, for example, are genius they are so smart and i think it'll keep people engaged in the state, keep people from leaving those professions as

they are leaving in many other places and really make people happy and that's really what the governor's role is, right? david: yeah, i'm just wondering though, in this post pandemic environment that we're about to enter into, again, the administration d.c. is acting as though we're right smack in the middle of the pandemic with all of these unemployment benefits et cetera but we are coming out of it and unfortunately, a lot of small business and probably won't survive this summer with having to compete with government but you have two visions of the role of government. one, the desantis idea of smaller government, the same is true in texas but then you have california, new york, michigan, they are all pushing bigger government, more government spending, more taxation. which do you think the public is going to go for in the long run? >> well it's interesting, because during the pandemic, governor cuomo sort of became a conservative on taxes. in may he started saying oh, the federal government should return the money to new york that we pay in, well why not

just reduce that payment in the first place? so i think when things go bad people realize maybe we shouldn't be throwing money around and letting the federal government spend it for us. i think if we can get there faster, if democratic governors in blue states can realize that maybe we don't want to be sending all this money to washington and they would, you know, push for lower taxes for everybody that be really good. i think that in so many ways we should have learned this lesson during the pandemic that governor desantis has kind of known all along. david: we all have with us now, lilly hill vayetta. good to see you, lilly. thank you for being here, we now have also discussion on the international role in terms of taxes with this new proposal by janet yellen that the g 7, the european nations, seem to be on board with having a minimum global corporate tax. a lot of people are concerned in the united states that this goes directly against our declaration of independence on taxes, where

we broke away from somebody, some foreigner telling us how to set our tax policy. what do you think about all of this? >> yeah, i think we're seeing once again that we should be learning the lessons of the pandemic. there have been great power in the independent power of government or states to do what is right for their constituents and when you force into a model that is supposed to be equal for all, it may actually disincentivize the international trade that is absolutely what we want to promote in a post- pandemic economy, so we need to go back to the history books because there's much to be learned from the mistakes of the past, so that we don't make them again, and as we're looking at the micro system of florida, as a greater, you know, global example, we need to empower governments and not force them into some sort of a tax quota that may promote the wrong behavior. david: one of the great things about america is we have 50 states, each one of which has a

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to happen. if you go up in the sky in our fox sky drone team you can see where the taller part of the wall is the new president trump wall that was halted and then what's next to me, this lower wall was built under president obama and you can see , it's much smaller, a little delapidated and part of the reason why they are under an onslaught here with david, the vice president of the border patrol council here in del rio. we've seen a lot of action today >> we just had a group walk up to us that crossed the river from haiti and they turned themselves in this morning with over 100 people waiting to be picked up by agents and this is a daily occurrence sometimes multiple times a day and all agents can do is pick them up and take them in for processing and hope we get some time out in the field to arrest the people that don't want to be encounter ed by border patrol. griff: the vice president is in guatemala trying to deal with root causes from the central american countries of the northern triangle but is she

missing an opportunity to see how big the problem is here? >> absolutely there's no replacement for being here on the ground and looking these people in the eyes to actually talk to them, to hear their stories and then of course see the border being wide open. you can hear about it, see it on tv but you have to be here to really truly understand it. griff: how many different countries, john, have you apprehended migrants this year from? >> we've seen over 70. it's across the world right now. this is a hotspot at the moment for venezuela. honduras, haiti and cuba is what's busy at the moment but that can change at any given point. griff: the dangers are not just here on the river which is just down the road from us and this border fence, but also, on trains, and migrants trying to get to the interior. tell me what you witnessed? >> on the training here, they will do train checks because there are people hiding themselves in the trains and these are people who don't want to find us and the ones trying to get away and trying to get the train to san antonio so agents search these trains every day and pull whoever they can off the train but a lot of times those people want to fight because they are this close to

making it to san antonio and ultimately wherever they want to go in the country so it's very dangerous not just from the immigrants who want to fight but just being around the trains themselves very dangerous, immigrants and agents get hurt every year on those trains. griff: last question, bottom line quickly, john. this i started by talk about this foundation for the former president's wall. if that had been completed or if the new administration would continue would it help you with the problem you have here? >> look it's not going to stop everything but it will at the very least help us do the job by funneling traffic to where we need it to be. at the moment the immigrants want nothing to do with us are able to get through wherever they want. this black fence here has been here for a long time and it's falling apart. if we get additional infrastructure border roads, fences, technology that sort of thing we'll have a much better chance getting the ones trying to get away. griff: john, thank you and david every time i go to the border i hear the same thing what the agents need. they say manpower, technology, and infrastructure but as you can see behind me, they stopped infrastructure building on the wall here. david? david: it's not rocket science

as you point out. griff thank you very much. let's bring in southern border carolina republican congressman ralph norman. congressman, you have the vice president is in guatemala. she's not at the border where we see the policies are really responsible for this tremendous in-flow of people. it's not in guatemala, is it? or am i wrong. i mean, i think the problem is on the border, not in guatemala and why isn't the vice president on the border? >> well, you're exactly right, david. that's where she should be and to take this long, we've been to the border. congressmen and senators have been there and seen the issues that we face in this country. it just shows she's tone deaf to what's going on. the millions that have come across the border, the tragedy, the drugs, the drug cartels, all of the above, is really not fair to the country and it's not fair for her as a leader to not have been there on the border looking at particular the southern border looking at

the faces of immigrants, talking to the border patrol agents who will tell you what the problem is and it's as griff mentioned, the wall is already paid for ready to be built that president trump started and they simply won't do it because of hatred for trump. david: well and you hate to see our tax dollars wasted like that. not completing a project that's at least the foundation for which has already been finished so what do you think is going to happen. you still have the administration claiming that the border is closed. clearly the border is not closed that's just not a true statement , so do you think they, in fact, want an open border? what's going on here? >> well absolutely. the reason they are doing it and it's not just because of the dislike president trump. they just, i think, they look on this as votes when they come into the country they get on our welfare system and by last count there were over 134 agencies that they can apply and get our

tax dollars, use our hospitals, go to our schools, and these are going to be desperate people, david. i mean, for the police departments to have to deal with this , we don't have enough jail s in this country to let anybody in at anytime. secondly, this administration needs to have a press conference and a willing press who will ask questions, tough questions, about why aren't you dealing with this? what's the logic behind this? david: well we have to go, congressman but i have to ask you because they said the way they are dealing with it is by sending money to countries like guatemala but they are saying that's why people are trying to get here is to get away from those countries implying that the administration of those countries so corrupt so what good would it do to send tax dollars to places like guatemala? >> it's just words, and they have no hesitation to send our hard earned tax money along with the millions we funding everyday for our border patrol, for our doctors and whatnot. it makes no sense, there's a

disconnect. david: congressman we've got to leave it at that. we'll have you back, ralph norman thank you very much for being here, appreciate it. coming up we'll be talking to a restaurant owner whose turning to technology to combat a growing worker shortage. we'll be right back with that, coming next. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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take a look at these results from a new study. they found that in 2019, pre- covid, more than 80,000 people left the state of illinois bringing about $6 billion of taxable income with them. john alianello, the coo of mini moves has seen firsthand this exodus from states like illinois and california and now there's combine that with the fact that there's a shortage of truck drivers. >> yeah that's true a shortage of truck drivers been like that for the last 10 years in the moving industry but the pandemic has really accelerated it with the older drivers not wanting to arrive address dents being and concerned about their health, forced a little bit of a backlog of transportation for our industry. reporter: so those drivers found new job elsewhere and they have yet to come back, so you mentioned the delay times, not necessarily for your company, but for others. how long might people wait if they're moving? >> unfortunately we're struggl ing with that as an industry but it's about three to four weeks some time delay but we're working to try to correct that and improve the

pick-up and delivery service reporter: tell me again why you're not experiencing the delays even though you have lost drivers as well, right? >> we're containerized model so fortunately we have very predictable transit times and we use 125 locations to do our pick-up and delivery and we have a logistics company that provides our transportation and our transit times are very predictable versus what you see with long-haul drivers. reporter: so david it's like a lot of things in the pandemic this perfect storm of people moving in large numbers and the drivers leaving the industry has caused a shortage and as we mentioned, three or four-week delays in some cases, so might be waiting a little longer if you are moving for your belongings to come by. david: unbelievable so you can't get out of town if you want to. grady thank you very much. so restaurants are still struggling to stay afloat all over the country. some owners are even turning to on demand hiring apps to fill temporary positions. north carolina restaurant owner chef william dissan is here to

tell us how he's filling positions at his restaurant. good to see you, chef. i'm wondering to what extent you think you're competing with government that is government has all these unemployment benefits to help people during the worst part of the pandemic. the worst part of the pandemic is over, but the unemployment benefits continue. are you competing with the government now and trying to raise wages in order to get up to the level they are being paid to stay-at-home? >> you know, i think that it's a few factors, right? you have a lot of folk, everyone is ready to come back out to eat every restaurant is trying to staff up all the way so it's creating a bottleneck for actual employees getting in the door so we're certainly seeing that compounded with the federal unemployment addition, it's definitely making it difficult so we've really turned to try to find new ways to get people in the door to work with us. since the pandemic started, the restaurant industry in particular has lost over 2.5 million jobs, so it's a lot of jobs to fill here as we're on

our way out of the pandemic and people are ready to get back out and specifically get back out to eat again. david: now are you forced to turn away customers because you don't have enough people to help them? >> so we have definitely changed some of our seatings with a few of the restaurants are reservation-based so we had to put caps on reservations on certain days of the week due to staffing. david: so you're paying more, i assume, for your help and you're getting fewer people coming into pay you, so the math doesn't work out too well in your favor. >> no certainly conundrum, the restaurant industry was the hardest hit industry in the past year, and so as people are coming out there's an opportunity to try to regain our footing, but definitely makes it quite a conundrum as we're trying to staff back up again. david: how many of the fellow restauranteurs has gone out of business? >> i don't have an exact figure but i'd certainly know people my own circle that have gone out of business in the past year, it's

definitely frightening what the pandemic did to us and to our industry. david: and is anybody, i mean, god bless you, you're in for the long-haul and i wish you all the luck you could possibly get, but are there fewer people coming into the business? i mean, are a lot of people who maybe wanted to before the pandemic but said forget it. it's just too risky. >> you know i think things are changing and people are happy to get back out. the folks we have, we were fortunate to have some of the best and brightest in the industry that work for me and for our company in particular. you know, the one thing we've turned to are these app-based opportunities to try to find employees. there's a new app out now called gig pro that we've been working with, a gentleman ben ellsworth started it here in the past year, and it's an app- based portal that restaurants can post jobs and potential employees can sign up for the app and sign up for a gig almost like a musician

taking a big for a one night show. david: so these are on, i've heard about them called on demand apps, so if you get a high number of bookings on a friday night, you go into this app, and they can get you somebody just for the night. >> exactly. you know, kind of like back in the day in the restaurant industry if you were down a dishwasher you may call a friend and say i'll pay you cash and cook dinner for you and this really legitimizes that, and creates an opportunity for someone to come in and try your restaurant out as an employee. no strings attached and so its been a really great recruitment tool as well, that we pay folks to come in, they get to check it out and if it doesn't work out, we shake on it and they go on their own way but then there's opportunity that people say man this is a really wonderful place to come work. we've been able to hire them, so its really been win-win for both the employer and the potential employee. david: for all you've been through you deserve a break and thank god capitalism still comes up with these innovations to help out people like you and

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oppression. women, children, people of color , non-christian, lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer. on the right, experiences privilege, men, adults, white people, christian, letter o sexual. >> this kind of thing put in schools or in the government or even in the corporate workplace, it divides people, and, you know, for the people that are for critical race theory that think it's valuable, their motto is very much, if you're against this , then you are a problem. you are a bad person. >> parents i've spoken with over the past week or so out here in lowden county say dividing the two camps into the oppressed versus oppressor s is destructive and there's also the case of suspended teacher tanner cross, a gym teacher who got up and spoke about his religious beliefs when it comes to a proposed transgender policy , at a meeting seeking input from the public and then

cross was suspended with pay, from his job. >> i have views and opinion that i want to share and advocate for , advocating for causes i believe in on my personal time should not cost me my job. >> [applause] >> public schools should not punish teachers like me for sharing our beliefs. reporter: cross is suing to get his job back, his legal team is seeking an emergency in junction, so he can return to the classroom. david? david: all right mike thank you very much. well graduation rates expected to drop this year as a result of remote learning. our fox business correspondent lidia lydia hu has the latest on this. hi, lidia. reporter: it could be a year or more before we know exactly how the monumental disruptions to school will impact the graduation rates, the last data reported from the 2018-201d 86% of public school students graduated and is expected to

decline, but already, we see projections on how the shutdowns will impact student earning potential. consulting firm mckenzie estimates that the average student experiencing seven months of learning loss will lose as much as $81,000 over the course of their lifetime, as education experts say the gap in education felt from this past year will compound. >> are graduating from high school but not really prepared for college and graduating from college but not prepared for the workforce. the pandemic made it that much worse. the kids are being moved ahead but the gaps are larger this year. reporter: just last week the american federation of teacher the country's second largest teacher's union launched a $5 million campaign to show support for a full return to school, five days a week starting in the fall, but the campaign follows criticism from supporters of returning to full in-person learning, that teacher's unions have obstructed year-long efforts to get kids back in the classrooms.

now that spending comes as the majority of states have mostly returned to in-person learning and take a look at the map because the states that are shown in grey have at least 80% of students enrolled in in- person learning, and among them california was 53%, hawaii with 38%, now meanwhile, the biden administration is requiring states to devote some federal pandemic relief to expanding summer school programs , already, new york city , philadelphia, and san diego will offer summer classes to all students, not just ones that are falling behind, david. david: got the money, $200 billion of tax funds went to k-12 from all of those covid relief funds thank you very much well take a listen to the perspective of children's scholarship fund president darla runbo, i spoke to her last hour. watch. one of the interesting things that came out of this pandemic is that you have parents sought what their kids were being taught and how they were being taught and as a result of that parents have become very

supportive of school choice whether you're black or white it's about 80% all across the border supportive of school choice and legislators are listening. david: let's get reaction from new york post columnist carol markowicz and culture intel ceo lilly hill vayetta, who joins us now. let me go to lilly first on this one. it is a dark cloud, and a dark lining. excuse me. it is a silver lining of the dark cloud of the pandemic, the fact that you have parents looking over the shoulder of their kids to see what they're being taught and a lot of the stuff they are being taught in school they don't like and they realize that they're the ones that fund this , lilly so can they do anything about it >> well, it's definitely created a new layer of awareness , that now has parents advocating as never before, but at the same time, we're also seeing dire need to reinvent and reimagine education, because we are failing our kids and decisions that were made whether it was for political reasons et

cetera, now are having collateral damage, not just for this year, but for generations to come in the economics, the anxiety, the depression, the achievement. we have a lot of fixing and yes, curriculum maybe one of those but there's a lot more to look into. david: karol, you and i live in new york they spend about $30,000 a year educating children in k-12. if you were given a voucher for that $30,000, don't you think you could do better with $30,000 for each one of your kids than the school system is doing right now? >> yes, absolutely. i think new york city parents would absolutely do different for their kids if they had the voucher program here. i would also say that the number s that we're looking at right now where kids are graduating with a lower rate, are getting bad grades, it is so much worse than the numbers say. many states, like new york, for example, basically dissuaded parents from even taking the state test which were mandatory by the federal

government, and so we don't know the extent of the damage done and it was so much grade inflation this year, it is so much worse than we think it is. david: lilly the fact is that it is going to have long term effects on the power of people to earn a living. if you can't read and write properly, you're not going to have as good a chance of getting a job as if you had a good education, and a lot of people will be put back several years in schools, so it'll be a while before they get out into the workforce. this could have an overall effect on our gdp as well. >> that's exactly right and i want all of us to pay attention to the numbers because this is about america's competitiveness being put at risk. we are already majority minority at the public schools across america, and if those children, hispanic and black children, are the ones that have been left behind because of these policies and lockdowns, then we are impacting our overall competitiveness, so there needs

to be a rethinking of the entire system. how do we catch up in a way that the moneys get to the parents, to the students, and right above the politics because when everybody is talking about equity this is one thing we can all agree on education is the best equalizer and the best policy for us to look into progress. david: the problem, karol, we talked about with darla also is that so much money is now being put in the hands of the people that are creating part of the problem, frankly. the teacher's unions who kept kids out of schools, who are using what many people consider very harmful education tools like the 1619 project, critical race theory, et cetera, so they are getting close to $200 billion in covid relief stretched out over the next 10 years. how do you dislodge that kind of power and money? >> yeah, it's going to be tough i think parents really need to stand up and i've been saying this throughout the pandemic. it's our kid's lives that are at stake here. it's their education. we need to speak up.

i know it's hard. i've spoken to so many parents afraid of during the pandemic being called teacher killers or now being called racist if they fight crt teaching in school. but we have to. we must, because otherwise, these people who had no interest in educating our kid throughout this year are suddenly in charge even more and they have even more power than they've ever had before. i think again, parents really need to recognize that it's up to them to speak. david: well, will we see it at the polls, lilly? will we see people actually come out at the polls not only vote for president and congressmen and senator but also get out for voting for school board members and take these votes seriously. there's so much focus and frankly, a lot of it is our problem and the media we focus on the big ticket items the presidential race, the senate race, whereas a lot of the school boards are much more important to your day-to-day life than these big national elections. >> that's exactly right. communities are impacted one zip

code at a time and i recently moved from manhattan to south lake, texas where i'm at now. david: oh, good for you. >> when i got here they were in the middle of school board elections i'm telling you it looked like a presidential one and the town showed up and they elected, you know, cam brian to school council and he's, you know, being really brave and bringing forward some great policies for our children, but yes, the parents must show up and by the way, our latest analysis of big data because this is interesting, is showing that minority parents, hispanic and black, want their kids back in school. david: of course they do. >> more so than the rest of the population. this is 7 million digital data points we analyzed is parents, this is the time and yes we got to show up to those critical elections because that's where your community will be impacted. david: karol, we just have 20 seconds but the fact is it's the minority communities and the poor communities suffering more than anybody else because they don't have the choice that middle class or upper class children have.

>> yeah, absolutely. parents who can get their kids out of broken systems will and you know, we parents that can't do that for their kids holding the ball, so we really need to do something for everybody at this point and need to fight the teacher's unions to make sure kids get what they need. david: they are pretty powerful and they have a lot of connections in washington that's for sure. thank you very much and congratulations for the move to texta lilly a lot of new yorkers are jealous. we'll see you soon. >> thank you. david: shares of amc soaring double-digits today as the retail investor fueled rally gains some steam, today's massive gains following an 80% rally last week, more cavuto "coast to coast", right after this. >> ♪

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