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confidence in the irs gets rocked again, again another political abuse of irs, we will debate it is that what's happening, with us tonight jodi heights, pat tallon, vince holidays, james coomer, infectious disease experts and former acting dhs secretary chad wells, we have that story and also this vice president harris getting criticized from all sides saying she will go to the border after laughing it off multiple times. but still not committing to win, her own team seem to be frustrated mexico el salvador, guatemala blaming the biden administrationon for the biter under border crisis, msnbc and cnn anchor downplayed what's going on despite the fbi labeling the border a crime zone a multibillion-dollar business at the border based on horrific crimes, drug trafficking, human smuggling, extortion even murder according to the fbi.

this news constitutional battle at the border states rights versus federal authority, the biden administration threatening legal retaliation against texas after texas is moving to shut border shelters, border mayors say the federal government is destroying their towns and communities. the latest hunter biden bombshell reports hunter used racial slurs and text messages all of the surfacing days after president biden gave a speech saying systemic racism in the u.s., other texts show hunter complaining about media scrutiny and that his father is not helping on that front.. new accusations that democrats are stonewalling the covid-19 wuhan lab leak probe because it would distract from the narrative that former president trump mishandled the pandemic. the big debate oily over, has a u.s. already reached herd immunity against covid-19 public health leaders say there's growing studies and evidence for

that. why the lingering shutdowns, officials ignoring the science of playing politics once again? thank you for joining us, i'm elizabeth macdonald in "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show you're watching the fox business network we start with the irs and treasury inspector general investigated a privacy breach as suspicious leak at pro-public law 15 years for jeff bezos, warren buffett and other top bracket americans. redwood president biden the democrats are providing them higher taxes that people ought to pay their fair share. heritage foundation senior legal fellow hans voss petoskey were not sure who leak this but this is serious stuff, this is leaking confidential tax documents is a crime americans feeling vulnerable about the spring what do you say. >> they should, it is a felony

under federal law for an employee of the irs to leak in a punishable active five years in jail and a quarter million dollars in fines, it is not just that they release information on one particular individual but pro-public law say has to invest cash of information, that is something that should be easily found out by inspectors and fbi agents, the real question will the l fbi an active real investigation and find out who did it, that is a test w of the biden administration whether this was intentional or done by some employee without permission. elizabeth: this is a heck of a felony is what you're saying, the taxes have been built from

decades on a promise that returns will be kept safe, that's been undercut and rocked again. this is the same irs the pursuit of vendetta against nonprofit during the obama administration the lois lerner scandal and irs politicized to go after political industries through kennedy and nixon and clinton and obama. >> that is right in 2014 nothing long ago the irs paid a settlement of $50000 to the national organizationna of marriage after an irs employee disclosed their tax information which ended up being publicized by the post and went to the human rights campaign which was at the time going after the national organization for marriage unfortunately the employee they discovered who it was was not prosecuted for releasing the information. elizabeth: here's what the question is the biden administration wants to give tens of billions of dollars more to the irs to collect taxes they

want the irs to give everybody's bank account information on inflows and outflows elizabeth warren once a wealth tax they want higher capital gains taxes pro-public us said they got the files from an anonymous source they say they don't know who provided them, we don't know why, the question is why is this happening now. >> it's awfully sweet socialist giving a push by the biden administration and democrats in the congress to increase taxes, the irs should have an easy ability to find out who did this they have elaborate internal security system to trace you accesses the files to the computer system, they should be able to find out who did it and that's why conducting a serious investigation is very important and if they do not do it that will lend support to the suspicion that this might've been intentional.

elizabeth: thank you for joining us let's bring in congressman jodi heise for his reaction on this. >> what was your reaction when he heard the story. >> here we go again one of the reasons i'm in congress is because as a pastor i was harassed by the irs for years over the johnson amendment speaking certain so-called political issues from appropriate and for potentially losing status andnd so forth, ad irs targeted conservative groups, here we go with irs appearing to be weaponize yet again and on the administration to get what they want to i think the question is without any doubt this is an attempt to influence debatee in congress as it relates to the biden administration astr it relates o trying to raise taxes in a mantra that the rich don't pay enough, here we go there hitting

as a weapon. elizabeth: the propublica reporting that they pay little to no net taxes critics are saying it felt tendentious because it was based on a tax rate based on their percentage of wealth that was showing the rate lower when wealth is tied up in unrealized capital gains in the stock ofth the company ad these individuals built and made successful. the irony that congress wrote the law with capital gains taxes, clinton lowered them and that set off the.com and tech boom, that's how they got their wealth. this feels really like an unconstitutional illegal move because elizabeth warren wants a wealth tax that's unconstitutional and only allows for an income tax is most really suspicious all around. what do you say. >> i cannot agree anymore look at the timing is right on the

heels of the biden administration trying to raise taxes and in fact he ran largely on what you're talking about trying to raise taxes on the wealthy and high income earning individuals, isn't it interesting on the heels of that push that we have in an ominous leak coming from the irs showing some of these wealthy people pad little to no taxes over the last year were couple years whatever it may be for individuals and this is going to add fuel to the fire that the biden administration to call for higher taxes and go after it, as far as i know they're not seeing anything that is illegal about what these individuals have done their able to hire attorneys to protect themselves from paying taxes but yes these are tax laws that congress has passed and to my knowledge there has nothing been found illegal about this, it is all weaponize and irs to advance a political agenda, the

biden administration and for that reason we need an investigation into this. elizabeth: critics are saying this is scary stuff michael bloomberg had his tax return revealed and he said he doesn't remember for your republican or democrat whatever your political party you should be worried that this happened and that tax information was released. the irs is supposed to be the fort knox of everybody's tax information and that's how the tax system is built on confidence. that has been shattered once again. we talked to the rank and file of the irs the workers don't like to be involved in politics they don't like it they want to see a straightt tax collector, when you see the dog whistles coming out of different administrations in the irs budget, their paycheck comes in approved by senate finance of house ways and means you have to believe that the irs workers are going to say yes we are listening to what those in power say and what they want even if

it's not explicitly e-mails sent down in ann e-mail, they here in the what's going on in d.c., what do you say. >> that is exactly right, we all know it is criminal to release taxfo information of private citizens of the united states, that is information that is private and supposed to be confidential and we need to know number one who leak this and number two why we need to know was the biden administration involved in this are they using the irs to target certain individuals foror the purpose of advance and their own political agenda, yes everyone should be shocked by this it doesn't matter which party they fall on, this is an issue of a major agency being used for go after american citizens that cannot be tolerated we needed investigation to get to the bottom of this and wherever that investigation leads us even if

it goes to top individuals of administration we need to know it, we cannot have the irs being used a politically to go after d target individual citizens. elizabeth: congressman is good to have you on, come back soon. vice president harris facing criticism from all sides now says she will go to the border after laughing that off multiple times. the question is she is not saying when, reports coming in thatwn her own team is frustratd by her remarks and central america, the white house is perplexed according to cnn. then the media downplaying what is happening at the borders we have that story, fbi labeling the border a crime zone, congressman with us next. >> there is a reason joe biden doesn't want to go to the border because we know if they go, the reporters will follow them, the tv cameras will follow them, their strategy is simple, try to cover this up where they're not

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elizabeth: joining is now texas congressman pat phelan from armed services, were so happy ts have you on vice president kamala harris says she will go to the border but she is not g saying when she's going to go, she left that off multiple times saying she's not going to get involved in say is essentially political theater, do you think she's going to go. >> i don't know but it's absolutely necessary to go the borders 77 days ago in the very first thing that she should do is go to the border i've been thereha several times that you have to ask the people on the ground what is happening and she is blaming this not on biden's insistence on canceling policies

that worked under president trump like the way to mexico policy and increase deportation in building a border wall, she is blaming on climate change elon musk should not bother going to space because kamala harris is already on another planet. elizabeth: okay, we heardea that one. the thing is she was not laughing when critics say she owasn't laughing as you point t when she was using the border to attack trump, she wasn't laughing then in the question as you point out if she'se in chare shouldn't she be viewing the problem firsthand looking at the end result of the border policy from the biden administration not just root causes but watch harris talking about the border. >> why not go to the border as well. >> listen i've been to the border before, i will go again but when i'm in guatemala dealing with root causes i think

we should have a conversation what's going on in guatemala. >> at some point we are going to eethe border, i haven't been to europe. [laughter] i don't understand the point that you're making, i'm not discounting the importance of the border. >> i came to be here on the ground and speak with thehe lear of this nation around what we can do in a way that is significant, tangible and has real result and i will continue to be focused on that kind of work as opposed to grand gesture. elizabeth: what do you say congressman. >> i'm disgusting, the root cause of the border crisis, the biden border crisis we have a defective open border people are pouring across the board and'r e ludden in the american taxpayers are paying for them in their transit on flights all across the country the drug cartels are

ferrying these people from southern mexico and central america and they work for the cartels when theyam get here ths is a human smuggling and sexual trafficking operation the likes of which we have not seen before and for her to laugh this off and say, those of the root causes because those folks when they get here call home and sayl come over the take care of you and they don't send this back, that's was happening. elizabeth: the fbi says effectively this is a crime c ze happening and put out a statement saying the border multibillion-dollar industry of crime drug smuggling human trafficking even murder and extortion and drugs are pouring in, you know about that in all overdose deaths are up 25% new mexico the southwest and the west coast is getting hit hard with drug overdoses and opioid and fentanyl trafficking. when you listen to what the vice president is saying she's talking about the big deals with mexico and she's admitting that they did not talk about mexico not taking back illegalal

immigrants and then you got mexico, el salvador, guatemala and say the biden administration policies created the border crisis. what is a result of this trip? >> watermelon president blamed the border crisis on biden the president of mexico blamed the on biden and the numbers, numbers do not lie under president bush and under president trump in 2020 there were 646,000 border crossers there's really been 170,000 illegal border crossings and the first four months which means were on track for 2.6 million this year it is unsustainable. the real reason why she doesn't want to come to the border is because just like senator cruz, the press will follow them and they will address the crisis the mainstream media is ignoring and so is the white house. elizabeth: is this just about optics, they could've just picked up the phone and said

central america keep the strong border policies or were going to cut into your trade deal, we see the optics before, empty facilities that were democrat congressman out of texas saying these are fake photos showing facilities when you just moved illegal immigrants to another facility. is this just about optics. >> certain policies work and we know that nobody's going to come from central america illegally and very few people talk about this but most young women 30% of them experience the horrors of the lawlessness of mexico being victims of sexual assault or rape along the journey, who wants to take that journey if the very end when you get to the united states after weight mexico anyway and deniedd w ent. that will stop the flow, president trump did that there was a flood and then a trickle and then biden took over and then kamala harris blames climate change, it was climate change all right, the climate that changed at 1600 pennsylvania avenue come januars

what changed. elizabeth: congressman pat fallon, come back on. we are following the hunter biden bombshell, that he used racial slurs and text messages, the text surfacing after the president gave a speech claiming systemic racism in the u.s., other text messages show hunter biden complaining about media scrutiny that his father is not helping him battle that. the daily caller vince coglianese rate sitit down next. >> let's see how many democrats call out hunter biden joe biden for these clam like statements against black people. if you don't have black voters, you have a democratic party. ♪ he's taking trulicity for his type 2 diabetes and now, he's really on his game. once-weekly trulicity lowers your a1c by helping your body release the insulin it's already making.

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are hacked materials and maybe not real and russian propaganda in all of these allies forensics have been done is totally real, the mills are totally real this is hunter biden's laptop and the material is authentic and partisan politics that this story is being ignored and i think it's one of the textbook cases of hypocrisy if don jr. had a laptop that contained this many racial slurs somebody would've figured out a way to imprison him already, that is not the case of hunter biden. >> hollywood is silent on this in the media is silent text messages or surfacing days after president biden made statements about the u.s. being systemically racist and critics are pushing back on that speech saying you can't legislate really getting stupidities like racism but we got the best system in the world to catch the

bad guys that the u.s. is not systemically racist in its institution, there is a fight over that the daily mail is going to live on this laptop for some time they have been doing a lot of stories, this is not going away in their finding other text messages from hunter biden complaining that his father is not doing enough to help him with the negative barrage in the media that are reporting on this. more text messages about that. >> i think what is really important the most important thing, hunter biden can be a scumbag and personal problems in his life, in reality the person with most focused on is a guy in the oval office, joe biden and the reason hunter biden plays an important story not just his relation but how he used that relationship that he was paid handsomely by people in foreign countries for access to his father that is abundantly clear at this point, as a result this in a normal functioning

democracy would be a substantial scandal is suggested joe biden the sitting president of the united states is vulnerable to blackmail or been paid substantially for his service that is totally unclear and to the american people. we are owed answers, when you say 10%, that matters a lot. elizabeth: senator ron johnson and chuck grassley trying to dig into this, there is another text that hunter biden said in the most ethical person around and never done a dishonest deal from the fbi with potential money laundering, there was a story about him selling access to burisma the energy company in ukraine that paid him a million dollars a year trying to get blue star strategy which officials under d.o.j. probe for breaking foreign lobbying laws burisma ma, hunters trying to break up burisma for cell axis

and said the u.s. government to get bribery charges dropped against the founder of burisma. it goes on and on, how comes he is not hit with foreign lobbying law violation. >> that's a great question this is coming right down to whether or not the justice department is ever going to be able to restore faith in itself as an institution, think about this the obama biden administration had a justice department that launched an out-of-control investigation of partisan witch-hunt in which the last president of the united states dog that guy with russian collusion nonsense that was invented by democratic political party operatives and a lot of people lost confidence in the justice department now it's a perfect opportunity for the justice department to prove it will respond without fear or favor and enforce the law as written, we will see what happens if this gets buried

which that might very well be the case with the recent behavior of so many political cases, it'll be another sign that americans have a reason to lose faith in institution which we once had so much confidence. >> it's good to see you, thank you for joining us were coming out of the bottom of our you're watching the fox business our, james comer new accusations reports out of the monitor saying democrats are stonewalling the lab leak probe because it would distract from the narrative the former president trump mishandled the pandemic. >> it certainly looks like that there is some group stonewalling were just trying to get the information so we can answer questions to the mark in public, were getting stonewalled. we also need to know everything at the various agencies that the united states knows and if there is a group trying to block it but we gotta find the answers

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♪. elizabeth: democrats in congress elizabeth: democrats in congresi blocking multiple request for probes into the wuhan lab leak theory government officials blockaded to despite the livermore national laboratory saying is plausible and should be investigated joining us now congressman james comer from house oversight, it's good to have you back on and great to see you this is the monitor reporting this that the democrats are blocking this, is this true is this what's going on. >> it certainly seems that way, the democrats are worried for two reasons about the origination of coping in their worried that donald trump will be proven right in there to worried about the progressive base that is so worried about political correctness they're afraid this might be offensive to asian americans which we all know it is not but regardless

the democrats don't want to talk about this which is ironic because they try to turn over every stone possible for four years investigating russia and any type of potential collusion between donald trump r and russa now we have the biggest scandal my lifetime the covid pandemic and they don't want to lift a finger or talk about or investigated. elizabeth: the science monitor reporting the talking to democrat officialsn in congress saying is being stonewalled because they don't want to distract from the narrative that president trump mishandled the pandemic, the stonewall is happening in nih accused of stonewalling and republicans on how synergy commerce secretary of state is accused of stonewalling energy and commerce and nancy pelosi as yet 2 to respond from the letter of 209 republicans saying get congressional investigators on

this.s? what are you hearing democrats saying about this. >> for not saying anything we just had a committee hearing on the oversight committee and several members including myself and called for aa hearing on ths and asked when were going to investigate this and democrats will not respond they just smile into the camera and act like nothingg ever happened, we don't want to talk about this because this was an issue. elizabeth: hang on, they're gonna go into the midterms was 600,000 americans dead and not at minimum have a commission in congress to look into this, we had all sorts of studies in congress look all sort of things, 600,000 americans dead don't even drink a commission? >> it's a tragedy the only commission they talk about is a generally sick commission they don't want any part of this they are scared to death that they will be proven wrong that this

will embarrass their friends in there mainstream media republics will be questioning the origination from day one and always came back to the wuhan lab this is what president trump said and they went all insane that president trump was racist because he called it the wuhan virus were the china virus, now we know that is probably exactly right and donald trump was r exactly right and that's why the american people like donald trump because he said it like it was in this was something that the democrats are going to be embarrassed by and they have no explanation for why they turned a blind eye and if china had been honest and if we had pressed them and they would've worked with us maybe we could've gotten answers in vaccine sooner maybe less people would've died and we could've saved thes taxpayers trillions of dollars the democrats have a m lot of liability with covid-19 and the origination of it. elizabeth: so what have a generally six commission,

critics will say yes, doy not o this to is it because they don't want to haul in dr. fauci or peter daszak, they don't want to admit what vanity fair is saying a big gain-of-function government bureaucracy at play stonewalling the probes, dr. fauci is in the media again saying when you challenge me your challenging the science, you could say that but the point is why are you letting china and their labs known for recklessness and safety problems do dangerous gain-of-function research i would do things like make a bullet airborne that's at the new york times reported they were doing the gain-of-function research is all about. >> that's what we need to find out not just the origination but we may never be able to prove that, what we need to know is what exactly is going on in the lab and the other labs in china

and what american companies have interest, if there's a reason they're doing that type of research in china the united states and some type of liability issue then we need to know and it needs to be fixed we don't need to do anything with china that could harm our national security and never put a price tag on the damage that is done from a national debt standpoint to the year of our lives and destruction of one year without a decent public education with schoolchildren the democrats don't know what to do and they're hoping it will go away. >> congressman comer thank you for joining us we reallyet appreciatepp it. >> thank you for having me on. >> when we return infectious disease experts about this new debate, did the u.s. reach herd immunity against covid-19 a lot of evidence to support it a public health official says why the lingering shutdown policy and big blue states were taken

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>> i think were getting closer and closer to herd immunity in some geographic areas when you combine people fully vaccinated plus those with prior infections are likely around that number, that's why many of the cdc models do not predict this decline in cases in your under mustang meeting immunity that exist and it's something that wd can count on in certain circumstances. elizabeth: is really interesting, nearly halfre of ls angeles cases, people have the antibody, italy and denmark, they're not seen reinfection in the other studies are showing a year after people are affected they still have the antibody this is positive stuff why the lingering fights over shutdown and blue states like pennsylvania, washington, oregon, michigan this is goodd stuff. >> what i think is a governor reacting very cautious and they don't want to make an error so a the hearing on they' other side were there looking at vaccination numbers in isolation

without accounting for the population level immunity from prior infection that's why states like florida and texas were able to do a lot better than people thought because they didn't get hard because the natural infectious and that's one hypothesis when we look at the whole picture, we have to h account for the natural immunity because is playing a role in declining cases that were seen we want to get vaccine asib high as possible and as many people vaccinated the better in vaccine is likely better when it comes to certain variants like the b135 variant discovered in south africa but natural immunity isn't something that is not nothing but it is significant in certain circumstances. elizabeth: it's an important point is the human body fighting and working against it. dr. fauci said in august of last year when you have fewer than ten cases per 100,000 you should be able to open up safely and just open up the dr. makary said the u.s. at that point in mid-may, should we stop the fear mongering and level with the

american people. >> i do think were in a totally different phase of the pandemic we basically tamed the virus of moving doubled oedipal hospitals in crisis because of vaccine and natural immunity has an impact on preventing disease hospitalization and deaths we decouple cases from hospitalization and death, that's exactly what were going to do, were not gonna get to covid 0 this is to make it ao respiratory manageable virus and make sure cannot threaten hospital capacity again i think were there and it's time we move into a new phase of the pandemic where the public health emergency is largely passed. elizabeth: we have to live with it like we lived with agent hiv is that your final work? >> more like influenza and other respiratory viruses we will have a baseline level of hospitalizations but is never going to be a crisis again because we done so well with vaccinating high risk people. elizabeth: terrific stuff, good to have you back on it's good to see you, thank you for joining

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elizabeth: joining us now former acting dhs secretary chad wolf is back with us, good to see you. what is your take on the constitutional fight abruptly that the board of the biden demonstration is threatening to sue texas texas wants to shut border shelters it's a big fight over federal policy, texas is saying the illegal immigrants who come here the losses as opposed to going to federal custody not state custody that's why texas says shut the shelters. >> i think governor abbott is very frustrated like many border states and communities around v the country which is seen as ineffectivent border security immigration policy coming from

the administration and you see these high numbers in the month of may we have over 180,000 illegal comprehension a lot of the taking place in texas. the government is frustrated with this is a federal government responsibility to solve the problem and then not solving it abide in the administration is choosing not to solve this in states like texas have to deal with the consequences of that and this is the governor's way of saying enough is enough the state is job and do its protected citizens and at the end of the date this is a crisis caused by the biden administration they need to bear the brunt and the cost and the t consequences of that and at the end of the day no child, were gonna care for everyone in her custodyre but the governor there in the great state of texas is growing frustrated like many others around the country are as well. elizabeth: texas has eight lawsuits against administration multiple states including florida and arizona suing the biden administration over this,

the biden administration is saying the supremacy clause of the constitution says the federal government has the power and the authority over immigration law the states are saying you are inflicting damage to our communities and towns and under the constitution we have a right too protect ourselves, wht is your take on the constitutional fight. >> i think the states have a case to be made which is absolutely correct the federal government should enforce immigration law what they're doing today is not unforeseen of their choosing to look the other way and enforce certain laws whether at the border or the interior in cities across the country on the removal of dangerous individuals, the states have a case to say the federal government is not nmfulfilling its mission and its job to enforce border security and immigration law without prejudice, states like texas, arizona and others are challenging that and had limited success in the early days of the

administration but as you can indicated several more going through the court system i think that they have some merit in each case will be handled differently. elizabeth: a texas border town elected reportable can mayor he says there issa no reason why border town should have to deal with federal issues when they are not doing enough too fix the problem, the border towns and communities are getting swamped with crime were schools with children and them had to be shut down due to police car chases with illegals, illegalal immigrants let's listen watch this. >> six or seven months ago we don't damn now as we what today, i'm going to make sure that i protect your taxpayers funds there's no reasons why we should be burning with federal issues, i'm talking immigration, the border patrol drops them off at the mcallen bus station around the area, we are very limited to what we can do so what we do is

more public safety, we shoulde not have to be doing that but what we do for our residents in the immigrant protection. elizabeth: what do you say. >> you hear that very similar message all along the border and other parts of texas and arizona and california the community along the border of love to deal with the consequences of no border o security policy, the biden administration does not care they have been hearing from the communities for over four months when you month after month of the historic numbers of illegal folks entering the country illegally and they are not choosing to do anythingsi different. they continue to have this, as far as i can tell the biden administration continues to ignore law enforcement, mayors and other elected officials along the border saying we've had enough we cannot continue to deal with a historic numbers that we see, our cities are overrun and our resources are

tapped, it is unfortunate that is coming to this. elizabeth: is going to be historic court battle, thank you for joining us, i am elizabeth macdonald you been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. thank you for watching we hope you have a good evening. ♪ everyone. we'll be back tomorrow. "kudlow" is next. ♪. larry: hello, everyone, welcome back to "kudlow." i'm larry kudlow. now, who was lois lerner? tough question. well remember lois lerner was at the center of the last big irs scandal which occurred during the obama years. ms. learner, who was head of the exempt organizations division of the internal revenue service, she learned that groups, that is, some groups, like the