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blackburn, congressman lee zeldin, andy puzder, congresswoman claudia tenney, texas troy nehls and former i.c.e. director ron vitiello. "washington post" report says nih and dr. fauci are stalling broke. dr. fauci says he is focus of phenomenal amount of hostility. illegal leak of billionaire tax returns from the irs to "propublica." this will happen at hearings this week. we've got what is going to go down. they are calling for the prosecution of the irs workers behind the leaks of taxes from amazon's jeff bezos, warren buffett, bill gates and more. gop also now warning about the timing of this. happening right when democrats want to raise taxes around that this week will ruin what the democrats want to do giving irs more money and more power. also tonight we will break down

president biden's high-stakes meeting with russia's vladmir putin this week. what can the president get accomplished? plus small businesses again rising up against the defund the police push amid a surge in crime. gun violence hitting new historic highs. we're going to take you to baltimore, show you what business owners are threatening to do in order to get an end to the lawlessness and chaos. new emails surfacing showing top michigan democrat officials reportedly plotting and planning to get the police to go after a local restaurant owner who denied their lockdown orders. we've got this story. angel families say they deserve a seat at table with the homeland security secretary as biden administration rewrites the rules basically letting dangerous criminal illegals back out on the streets. the administration is moving to build more border facility in texas. texas moving to stop that. you know what? don't mess with texas i guess.

i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. both the s&p and the nasdaq hitting record highs even as investors digest new inflation data coming in. also the federal reserve this week may signal rate hikes. look what is going on over at jpmorgan chase. jamie dimon is saying it is stockpiling cash because it thinks inflation could be long term. it is making interest rate hike bets over there. start with this story with tennessee senator marsha blackburn. it is great to have you on, senator. thanks for joining us. what was your reaction to president biden and the g7 leaders saying yeah, there should be a new investigation whether the wuhan lab leaked covid-19? >> i think if the g7 were to take this up it would be a replica of the w.h.o.'s investigation. what we need is for congress to

do its job, for the senate, the various standing committees to take this up. why would secretary pompeo blocked? why did secretary, when dr. fauci worked with facebook? and why did he decide he was going to keep the lab leak theory squashed when some of us were calling for this? why did he hide information? why were those of us said hey, we need to look into the origins of this and the lab leak theory and he poo-pooed that. we were called anti-asian. we were called racist. you know, he was out there agreeing with the chinese communist party that nothing could have gone wrong in the wuhan lab. so we need an independent investigation to get to the bottom of every bit of this. elizabeth: so you are going to get an independent commission to do it?

>> no. elizabeth: go ahead. >> yeah, judiciary committee needs to look what happened at the state department, the intel committee needs to look at some of these communiques from our diplomatic scientists. the commerce committee needs to take up what happened with big tech and, dr. fauci really, kind of working with mark zuckerberg there and the tech companies to create a narrative. basically, a pr campaign, that he was running. instead of getting information to the american public. look, we have had hundreds of thousands of american families adversely impacted. loss of life, sickness, illness, loss of livelihood. children have lost a full year of education and socialization. elizabeth: yeah. >> teen suicides are at an all-time high. there need to be answers. there needs to be accountability. dr. fauci was not giving us this information so was he giving it to the president and

vice president? he didn't share it with the american people. did he share it with the covid response committee? elizabeth: let's watch the president, let's watch president biden on this. watch this. >> one of the things i raised and others raised, i wasn't the only one who raised this at the g7 is that we don't know, we haven't had access to the laboratories to determine whether or not -- i have not reached a conclusion because our intelligence community is not certain yet, whether or not this was a consequence of a, from the marketplace of a bat interfacing with, with animals and the environment that caused this, this covid-19 or whether it was an experiment gone awry in a laboratory. it is important to know the answer to that we have to have access. the world has to have access. elizabeth: but the media,

"new york times," cnn, msnbc, misled their viewers calling this a fringe conspiracy theory. dr. fauci as you pointed outspent much of last yeardown preying it, even though behind the scenes he was warning world leaders last spring it may have leaked. watch the media on this. watch this. >> this question about the wuhan lab, we know that it has been debunked that this virus was man-made or modified or anything like that. >> agencies now have been tapped with investigating one of trump world's most favorite conspiracy theories. >> under the trump administration every single day as you rightly describe we were dealing with the circus. >> for many in the scientific community there was allergic reaction to the suggestion of a lab leak because it sounded more like something donald trump was trying to deploy as a political deflection to take off his own administration. elizabeth: "the christian science monitor" reporting that the democrats are, don't want to look into the wuhan lab leak

because allegedly the wuhan lab leak because they don't want to distract from the narrative about trump's mishandling of the pandemic. your response to that? >> well, a couple of things there. first of all, let me say dr. fauci is not a victim. he is trying to play one and say he is being adversely impacted and that if you oppose him you oppose science. the second thing, it shows you how much they, the media hated president trump and how much they side with the chinese communist party. the third thing, why was dr. faw sending u.s. taxpayer dollars to a lab controlled by the communist chinese? we have this pandemic and they refuse to let anybody from the united states into that lab. there are people that need to be held to account. it sounds as if president biden is just beginning to realize

that this was not something that was donald trump's fault. this is something that came from wuhan, china. otherwise, elizabeth, why would the chinese communist party looked down wuhan and the province you cannot go anywhere in china coming from wuhan or but you can go to the airport to fly around the globe? >> elizabeth: got it. senator marsha blackburn thanks for coming on. >> good to see you. elizabeth: congressman lee zeldin with us, your reaction, the president says investigate a potential lab leak. dr. fauci and the media downplayed that. "washington post" columnist, josh rogan saying dr. fauci and the nih are stonewalling probes into what the nih and niaid were doing. what is your take on all of this? >> for one the american people

have answers. so this is a theory that has been discussed since the beginning of the outbreak and it always made sense to many, whether they were in congress or amongst the american public. it was also clear that there was a big motivation not to have eyes on the origins of the covid-19 because it would distract from the ability to place all of the blame on president trump and the reality is that one of the best ways to prevent a pandemic is early detection. that was sacrificed here. it was clear the world health organization was parroting ccp talking points and the american public to this day, we want answers. we want to learn lessons to make sure this never happens again. elizabeth: yeah, but "vanity fair" is reporting there is a big gain of function supervirus bureaucracy in the government. you have that going on, right?

you had livermore national labs saying yeah, investigate it, its plausible. dozens of scientists from harvard, stanford universitys from around the world say investigate it. let's listen to the former secretary of state mike pompeo on this. >> we have a really good idea what happened here. there is enormous amount of evidence there was a leak from the wuhan institute of virology. there is pile of evidence 100 feet high. i have confidence that is the case. we pressed the chinese communist party really hard. not just the state department but others too. we withdrew from the w.h.o. which had become politicized. the administration chose to get back into that. i don't know what tools they think they will use. elizabeth: former fda director said scott gottlieb dr. fauci in the spring of last year did brief world health leaders it might have leaked from the wuhan lab. now he is flip-flopping, he is saying on the podcast of chelsea

clinton he is the object of a pham noll amount of hostility merely for promoting simple public health principles. people are getting angry of dr. fauci. we're showing his flip-flops and confusing statements on camera. your reaction to what he is saying? >> my background is the military and one of the characteristics of leadership that we hook for is consistency and the fact that dr. fauci had flip-flopped on so many different issues is one where there has been an erosion of trust and respect. this is not an attack on science when there is a call for accountability and transparency. it's a call for answers and accountability after everything that we've been impacted. secretary pompeo, he is someone who is the. cia director. he is the secretary of state. this is something from outside of government with access to that evidence. he is speaking from experience

of someone who was part of this living through it throughout 2020 as a member of the administration. as members ever congress we want dr. fauci to just come clean and answer questions with regards to the emails which have now been released which show he was giving congress, the american public, one narrative while going with a different narrative. lastly i would say, all of the faith that dr. fauci puts in the scientists in china to be honest and transparent, we can't ignore the reality as we've seen play out here going back to the origins of the outbreak that these chinese scientists have an incredible amount of fear with putting outing in that is contrary to the chinese communist party's, their narrative and if they say something that the government doesn't like, there is very severe consequences. so even if there are good people who are scientists at the lab

there are huge consequences for them going against the chinese government. last week secretary blinken was in front of the house foreign affairs committee which i'm a member of. i asked him what are the consequences if we don't have access to wuhan, what is the next step? i didn't get a clear answer. i don't know if they planned out that far what to do when china obviously isn't going to give us that access. elizabeth: congressman lee zeldin, thanks for joining us, come back soon. >> have a good night. elizabeth: we'll give you a preview of the fireworks coming this week. republicans now gearing up to spotlight at hearings this week the illegal leak of billionaire tax returns. they're calling for the prosecution of the irs workers behind the week of tax returns from amazon's jeff bezos, warren buffett, bill gates and more. this is about american confidentiality and tax return security. the gop is also asking about the timing of this. it is happening right when democrats are holding hearings about raising taxes.

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♪. elizabeth: joining us now former labor secretary nominee andy puzder is back with us. great to have you back on, andy. >> great to be here. elizabeth: republican plan later this week, good to see you. they're going to put front and center with hearings this week with janet yellen illegal irs leak to "propublica" for billionaires, warren buffett, jeff bezos, elon musk. they're saying this is more democrat politicizing the irs, using the irs as a weapon, weaponizing the irs to go after the upper brackets in order to get higher taxes passed. what do you say? >> well, first of all the weaponizing the irs combined with the amount of information that they have on all americans, their willingness to support democrats, provide them pretty much with whatever they want, that combination really poses a huge threat to our liberties and

our freedoms, making the biggest threat we ever faced. does anybody remember lois lerner? this is what the progressives do when they're in power? they're trying to do it now. jeff bezos and bill gates they are not rich because they stole from us. they are rich because they provided tremendous benefits to people. in this country when you provide tremendous benefits you benefit tremendously. i would point out the top 1% pay over 40% of income taxes. they earn about 20% income. they pay about 40% of the taxes. so that soames like their fair share. they pay more in taxes than the entire bottom 90 percent of taxpayers. so the argument that they're not paying their fair share is just based, it is based on a fiction. elizabeth: well the story, "propublica" story was criticized as flawed because it took percent of taxes paid as a percent of their entire wealth but you're pointing out they created businesses and they own

paper stock, paper gains in companies they created. i mean who knows, that could vanish overnight. look at pets.com. i'm saying it will happen to those companies but it's a fallacy what they're arguing because europe, europe got rid of their wealth tax because they didn't see the revenues they were going to get from it, it basically crushed development of companies there. i want to move on to this though. we know liz warren wants the wealth tax. senators mitch mcconnell, chuck grassley, mike crapo, want them to throw the book at the irs leaker who did this. they should be prosecuted and punished to the furthest extent of the law. that is what these senators want. do you think that is the right thing to do? >> that is absolutely the right thing to do. we provide extensive information to the irs. the reason we provide it because we know it will be treated confidentially. it will be held privately. if that stops, information we provide the irs will be used for political purposes people will be reluctant to provide

information to the irs. it will make it harder to collect taxes. it is going to destroy really the confidence we had in the internal revenue service and in their ability to protect information we provide them. this is, this is a real problem for the internal revenue service. elizabeth: yeah. and now the gop is saying you know what? we're not going to give you democrats $80 billion more money for the irs to give more power to the irs. we'll not have the irs tracking americans' bank account information as the biden administration was talking about. the irs has been abused politically going back to fdr, through, you know, truman, through eisenhower, through jfk, through nixon, through clinton, through obama. look at this, your final word on this. the democrats are pushing for the irs to get non-profit donors, donors names and addresses and also to have the irs preview and scrutinize

policy positions of northern nonprofits before they give them tax-exempt status. this is more politicizing of irs. your opinion on that. >> why would they want that information? this is not for tax collection purposes. this is to power progressives, empower the democratic party. this is what they do whenever they get in party. this is a threat to the american people and threat to our liberties and freedoms. thank god they're standing up to the democrat push to take away what we have left of our freedoms after the irs comes after us. elizabeth: all right. andy puzder, great to have you back on. come back soon. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: next up we break down president biden's high steaks meeting with russia's vladmir putin later this week. we'll break down what is coming with representative claudia tenney. claudia tenney is next. >> mr. president do you believe

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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome to the show new york congresswoman claudia tenney from house foreign affairs. it is great to have you back on, congresswoman. what is your take what is going to happen with the president meeting with russia's vladmir putin later this week? >> thank you. it is great to be on again.

i am after watching the press conference today with president biden, his inability to even answer questions, really put a coherent sentence together, i wonder how it will happen and what will actually happen when that meeting occurs because i just see that putin is got to be saying this guy is really not up for the job. he is not able to really answer the questions other than to use some tired old talking points that he might have learned over the last several decades in political office versus someone who is a strong, more innovative type leader like president trump who is unpredictable. so you know, i'm concerned that president biden has really not been consistent in handling the russian president. throws out a lot, i will be tough on putin and you wait to see what happens but right now he gave them, he listed the sanctions on -- lifted sanctions on nord stream 2 while shutting down the xl pipeline. people know that. it is a lot of talking points, not a lot of substance and

certainly not projecting strength. elizabeth: there is no evidence that u.s. sanctions on russia have changed russia's aggressive behavior. they continue to act aggressively with cyberattacks going after ukraine. u.s. election interference. putin says relations with the u.s. are at an historic low. we have a report coming in, lobbyists for nord stream 2 are basically successfully lobbying the the house and senate to get russia's nord stream 2 to get it into germany. i thought fara act was supposed to stop power grabs. how did they get away from that? >> we don't have anyone leading the charge. the democrats are pressing that. the media is helping them, mainstream media make it look like they're standing up with putin but it is direct opposite. we sieve than in the past, president biden is compromised with his son hunter's relationship with ukraine and

china. even the other day, i just don't think they will enforce anything. on the foreign affairs committee we're in the minority. we can take a lot of gestures and try to make things happen, until we can take over a majority position or persuade enough democrats to realize how absurd the situation is, you know, right now we're going to be doing harshly worded letters around bills that can't pass to real louisiana how precarious the situation is. russia will continue to take advantage of us, why wouldn't they? putin described joe biden as a coo career politician and weak. elizabeth: let's move on to this. you're a member of the house republicans move for a resolution to censor the progressive left. can you explain what going on here. >> it is not the progressive left. it is statements from "the squad" that have been antisemitic equating them with

terrorist groups like hamas and hezbollah. that they do not. this is very different from censoring speech. all four of them have taken a oath to defend the united states of america. particularly omar who is on the foreign relations committee and has access to sensitive information and she of all people should be careful because of her position on the committee. elizabeth: who is supporting the resolution to censor? >> right now, we just introduced it today. it is me, representative walsh from florida, representative jim banks from indiana. it just went to the floor today. we don't know if it is going to receive bipartisan support but i think there is a couple of good signs. we have 12 democrats that also stood recently on a resolution against anti-semitism and we're hoping maybe those 12 democrats will come across and support us. none of them are particularly moderate. some of them in fact are fairly

left-leaning. so i think if we could get them to support us on this resolution along with the republicans we may get a censor, which is the appropriate action at this time. elizabeth: congresswoman claudia tenney, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. elizabeth: coming out of the bottom of the hour, you're watching the fox business network. small businesses rise up against the defund the police movement amid a surge in crime. gun violence hitting new historic highs. we'll take to you baltimore. we'll show you what business owners in baltimore are now demanding and threatening to do if local officials do not stop the violence. representative troy nehls is with us next. >> there is a culture of lawlessness in this country and felons, thugs, criminals, bad people are being emboldened by the defund the police movement and all this lawlessness people are going out on the streets thinking they are untouchable, they can do whatever they want,

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♪. elizabeth: join being us now, former sheriff, he is also texas congressman troy nehls. great to have you on, sir. what was your reaction when you heard more than three dozen businesses in baltimore's business district, it is called fells point, they have had it with rising crime and chaos and shootings. they are threatening to withhold, to hold back their local tax and permit payments if it doesn't stop? so these guys are taking matters into their own hands. if you put back on your sheriff's hat, what would be your reaction if you saw local business threatening to do that? >> thank you, liz, for having me. it is a sad state of affairs. we're seeing this across large cities across our country. but when you look at baltimore, and you look at those business owners, that are, you know, trying to raise their families, support their family, they have

family-owned businesses. now they have to approach city council and use the threatening terminology, i'm going to have to cut back, i may not pay my taxes, is a sad state of affairs. these people are out there trying to support their families that have these businesses but the problem i have, when you want to defund the police, right, the criminals are in charge of that city. you see the crime being -- it is up in baltimore. it is up in the large cities across our country. it is a sad state of affairs, there are people, good people in these communities, actually having to threaten their city councils to say we'll cut back on paying taxes. we'll not pay taxes because we're not getting support we deserve. elizabeth: you know, you feel like they're at their wit's end because how else will they get listened to, right? they're so desperately trying to get the attention of what they're seeing and witnessing on the streets. now we have 39 wounded, five dead in mass shootings over the weekend. shootings are set to surpass

already 2020 which was an historic spike in shootings. so you saw it in austin, texas, chicago, again, savannah, georgia. we're heading into a pretty violent summer. this feels like reversal. it feels like refund, not defund the police push seeing take hold in cities across the country, sir. what do you say? >> you mentioned some cities like seattle, new york, chicago and it is cities out there defunding their police. there is a direct correlation with less police a rise in crime. it is common sense and logic. and so what you're see seeing in these large cities, when you want to defund the police, in my great state of texas, the only real liberal city that is problem for us in the great state of texas, they defunded police by 150 million in their budget. that is a 33% reduction. what do you see in austin? a rise in crime, the mass

shooting last weekend in austin. then you have got the governor seeing issue here. he has to augment the austin police department with the department of public safety. it is crazy. what is all interesting about this, back in 1994, bill clinton, president bill clinton with the cops grant, he wanted to add 100,000 police. 100,000 police to the streets. i wonder what "the squad" would say to bill clinton today? what would bill say to the "squad"? what the hell are you doing? we need more police. we don't needless police. elizabeth: elected officials unilaterally making these decisions, bureaucrats making unilateral decisions that are so heart breaking to minority and immigrant communities because they are usually the first victims of these crime. we have a far left candidate in new york who says you know what? i just don't want to defund the police, i want to disarm the police. watch this. >> frankly our whole platform is the most progressive set of

policies on any issue. take for example the fact that i'm going to shift one billion dollars from new york city police department because it is poorly managed, it is not focusing our resources smartly on keeping us safe from crime, and from police violence. elizabeth: okay. we understand that there are bad apples in police departments. the problem with msnbc and cnn do those stories they don't give the other side of victims. we want cops to protect us. we have had minority guests saying we are victims here. grandmothers had their toddler grandchildren shot to death. we're seeing babies shot to death. the problem with the media coverage, they are not showing the other side of the story. that reaction. >> that is sad. that woman i don't know who she is, she sounds absolutely nuts and out of touch. the problem she is out of touch,

running for mayor, asking people to support her and her position. some of those same people will be victims of crime because you have less police in new york. it doesn't make sense to me. in my opinion she sounds like a 1%er. she would be a 1% in texas obviously. if she came down to texas to run for anything. you will not win on that agenda. this is the movement taking place. "the squad" is in charge right now. they're the defacto leadership in the democrat party. it is out of control. but this is what i want to say, one more thing. >> thanks for joining us. >> one last thing i want to add as it relates to law enforcement, what we're seeing across the country and continues to get worse and worse for these shootings, to the american people and to those thugs out there committing crime if you're stopped on a traffic or if you're approached by police, my message to you is this? if you comply, this is serious, if you comply, you will not die, that's it. just comply with law

enforcement. elizabeth: got it. that is a tough message. congressman, thanks for joining us. we have new emails surfacing showing top michigan democratic officials reportedly planning to get police to go after a restaurant owner, to go after that restaurant owner who defied lockdown owners. chris bedford is next. >> in my mind i feel like this was unlawfully and an unconstitutional. but you have to fight, you have to face whatever you have to face and i do whatever it takes to fight for freedom. ♪. that came from me. really. my first idea was “in one quarter of an hour, your savings will tower... over you. figuratively speaking." but that's not catchy, is it? that's not going to swim about in your brain. so i thought, what about... 15 minutes. 15 percent.

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she was about to go on "tucker carlson tonight." they wanted to get the police after her. this seems aggressive. what do you say? >> it is completely wild to see this. it was put in email form and written down, you know a lot of these kind of orders have happened otherwise were spoken or said over the phone. this shows a level of arrogance in the attorney general in this case saying why are we dealing with this? why is this woman's story getting out? why is her detail of what she is happening getting out? why wasn't she put in police custody to stop thwarting us. this is not from april or may of 2020. this is march of this year when they arrest entrepreneurs for simply speaking out against their tyranny. elizabeth: state attorney general of michigan, dana nessel emails an attorney in march. do you know her whereabouts.

she should have been picked up before she goes on tv. this is outrageous. she needs to get the full 93 days for this. do the state police know where she is, do they plan to find her soon? we will alert the police to this new information. seems like they're working with the police to go after businesses like this. >> yeah, exactly they are. of course you would expect the attorney general to work with police on apprehending suspects but this is explicitly, seemingly explicitly a case of going to the top of police priority above other priorities because it's a political thing, because it is causing a headache to powerful people in the state. now this has happened before in american history. we don't like it. it is fantastic for the mark kin knack center around "the daily caller" to expose this, to show how corrupt the leaders are being. how they're misusing public funds and public officers to enforce their political will. elizabeth: they're saying, she

is, spokeswoman for the state ag's office says that past lows hack any, quote,ville fully violated public health orders and orders of the court. her decision to go on national television and flaunt her non-compliance compromised the state's ability to protect the public. do you agree with that statement? >> no, i don't agree with that statement. that would be for a judge to push back, defy her court or his court. not for the people to come out. the only reason they know it is not the reason for this arrest, she explicitly wrote it down and said it was because she was going on tucker carlson. that is not endangering the people. that is only endangering her reputation. elizabeth: hacney escaped communist poland. angel families who suffered

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♪♪ elizabeth: a back with us now, former acting director ron vitiello. we've got a group of families who lost relatives to crimes committed with by illegal immigrants. they now want to meet with the homeland security secretary, alejandro major case, saying -- mayorkas, saying they want to be part of the decision making as the administration rewrites the rule for i.c.e. and how they're going to arrest if deport criminal aliens, but they have yet to be invited. what's happening here? what do you think? >> i agree that they should have a seat at the table. that's their first amendment right. we all have a right to address the government with grievances that we have. and who knows better than tragedy of illegal aliens who are also criminals, who knows more about the risks we all see with an uncontrolled border and an immigration system that doesn't have integrity?

and don rosenberg, one of the people mentioned in the piece, he's got a tragic story about how his son was murdered. and made worse by sanctuary policies in the state of california. in some jurisdictions who actively work against i.c.e.'s mission. in the backdrop you've changed, this administration has changed i.c.e. priorities to to only include address public safety, somebody who just crossed the border or a convicted aggravated felon, leaving every other criminal in the pipeline on the table. and i.c.e. wants to arrest and somebody outside of those categories, they have to have permission from washington d.c. so they're not listening to people who know what's going on, certainly the employee base wouldn't have asked for that set of priorities. under the trump administration, he removed the priorities that existed under obama. but what the president said was anybody that's here illegally, they need to get their day in court, they need to have due process. that's in line with my entire

experience as a border patrol agent and the brief time i was with i.c.e. people that are in the country illegally need to be dealt with, and taking a all of those criminals out of the pipeline for removal is not a good idea. it's putting us all at risk. elizabeth: i think folks out this just don't get it. you're now allowed to just walk, if you're from another country, just walk into any airport and walk into the country out of that airport, so, you know, canada has border laws, so does mexico, countries in africa and asia. so that's the debate there. but, you know, the homeland security secretary has been meeting with sake the holders -- stakeholders including i.c.e. officials, i.c.e. workers, illegal immigrant rights advocates, but why not meet with the families who suffered the most? is it too much for them to handle, or do they undercut everything that the other side of the aisle has been saying? >> certainly, it would be uncomfortable for them to meet with these families and hear those stories. i've met with many of them at

the white house as the president hosted them, and those are real tragedies. it's clear that the current policy is informed by special interest groups who believe in an open border, who believe in no immigration enforcement in the interior. and you can see that by the choices they made in the budget request that the president made and this reprioritization through the department for i.c.e. and its enforcement removal operations. and so again, they're not listening to people who want a secure border and an immigration system that has integrity, and i think they should. elizabeth: washington post is reporting now that i.c.e. is averaging one arrest per officer every two months. finish i.c.e. arrests have dropped dramatically. what does this mean for the future of the nation's security here? >> well, it's going to put more pressure on the border. because people that have criminal records, people who intend to do us harm and other

migrants that are coming to the border know that once they evade the border patrol, it is highly unlikely that -- under the policy now, they will not be arrested by i.c.e. they're outside of the priority regime. so that encourages more people to come. and you know that the cartels and the smugglers are exploiting these policies and encouraging people to leave and leave now because of this change in enforcement priorities and a lack of enforcement outside of the border region. elizabeth: well, doesn't congress swear an oath? the doesn't the president and the vice president swear an oath to uphold the constitution and protect the country? >> it's a very good point. no one took the law on the books that says if you're in this country illegally, you're subject to deportation and removal many, no one took that law off the books. yet i.c.e. is prohibited without permission from washington, d.c. to arrest somebody simply because they're here illegally. elizabeth: okay. ron i vitiello, thanks for joing us. come back soon.

>> thank you. elizabeth: i'm elizabeth macdonald you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. thank you so much for watching. we hope you have a good evening. ♪ ♪ ♪ larry: hello, everyone. welcome back to "kudlow." i'm larry kudlow, great to be with you. let's talk a bit about this weekend's g7 meeting. how about this? there's one quote that really captures what went wrong. from the french president, emmanuel macron. why this g7 meeting was a complete disaster for the u.s. and why former president trump's america first is out the window. listen to this. >> i think it's great to have a