gerry: more signs of some kind of normality approaching. disney world easing face covering rules. that is "fox business tonight." "the evening edit" starts right now. elizabeth: tonight senator chuck schumer now plans to push through president biden's massive mulltry trillion dollar infrastructure plan with only democrat votes via budget reconciliation. democrats though are wary of that move. we have new data coming in showing inflation is getting hotter. wall street betting it is here to stay. the republicans ramping up attacks over inflation in order to try to win back the house. trump is getting ready to pounce with new rallies coming in florida and ohio. joining us tonight fox news

contributor jason chaffetz. robbie suave of "reason" magazine, michael burgess, brand done arnold from the national taxes payers union. greg stuebe, joe concha and former dha official mike howl. we have a lot of news coming in, the president's former covid advisor americans should have sacrificed, given up even more during the pandemic. this after 22 million lost their jobs, entire businesses were forced to shut down. but pundits like him kept collecting their paychecks a growing number of scientists, saying no, yes it is possible that covid-19 did leak from the wuhan lab. comedian jon stewart thinks that too. media, democrats dismissing all of that in order to keep attacks on trump going, when trump talked about all of this last year. a u.s. government report showing that they knew the u.s. government did know that china's military was funding that wuhan

lab. also we've got the big loophole that could have weakened government oversight. a new report says that democrats will try to use that illegal irs leak of billionaire tax returns to raise taxes but republican senator senator mitch mcconnell today demanding criminal charges, warning that leak was orchestrated to push the democrats tax hike agenda. this news coming in, a top official at facebook admitting yes, its fact-checkers are politically biased after facebook is accused censoring trump, conservatives and much more. plus you will hear from that north korean defector to the u.s. slamming quote, woke u.s. universities for intolerance, censorship and group think. she says even north korea is not this nuts. legal eagles warning that the biden administration will sue texas to try to block texas from

building its own border wall. this constitutional battle royale now getting hotter. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. stocks finishing down. the dow, s&p, nasdaq all falling. consumers spent far less than expected on retail goods in may. producer prices and inflation soaring to the highest level in years. wall street pro paul tudor jones sees a green light to bet heavily on every inflation trade. jones is credited with calling the 1987 stock market crash. start with fox news contributor jason chaffetz. that ppi read is not good. inflation coming in hotter. republicans led by kevin mccarthy, we'll try to take back the house because democrat policies are triggering inflation. he says this is a direct tax on

americans. do you think that is enough to win back the house? >> i hope so because it is one of the cruelest taxes can be bestrode upon the american people, particularly people with fixed incomes, lower incomes. obviously high income people will absorb it but it is happening. it is, it is not necessary. these things are happening but it is the policies of the biden-harris administration is doing this. it is totally avoidable. it is painful. elizabeth: now we've got senator chuck schumer. he will try to ram through, word coming in, president biden's multitrillion dollar infrastructure plan this announcement is expected to come tomorrow. they will do it, try to do it with just democrat votes, via budget reconciliation. you and i talked about. this we said this was coming a couple months ago. senator joe manchin appears open to this line of attack. what do you think of this move? >> well, first of all, it is generous to say it is

infrastructure when less than 10% of it is roads, bridges and highways. this is growing government. this is growing government and it is growing government. that is what they did back in 2009 with their 787 billion-dollar package. remember joe biden's budget if you look back 10 years is 50% bigger. so when you're putting nearly 25% of our gross domestic product into government, one out of every four dollars spent by the government, again it exacerbates inflation. it is the insatiable desire of the democrats to control more, have more, spend more, and tax more and i think they are going to do it despite the promise of joe biden and democrats to work in a bipartisan way. there was an ernest effort. it was not heeded to and i just think they will blow through and do it because they want all things government. elizabeth: you know, we've got this new poll of staffers on capitol hill by congressional quarterly and "roll call." capitol hill insiders say this

will be the only thing that will get done before the fall, infrastructure. nothing else is going to pass. republicans are saying let life return to normal. that is the best fix. now americans are seeing food and gas prices going up after a wave of cyberattacks knocked out gas and food supplies. will this be one and done? >> i think so. there is no regular order with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. they're not going through the normal bipartisan budget process. since 1974 it only worked one time. democrats don't even try to pretend to go through the process. consequently they don't get buy-in. it is their fault they're not reaching out to do things that both sides can work on. remember, let's also add the shut-down of accessing oil and gas in large part on public lands. when you get rid of the pipeline, you can't access the product, don't be surprised all of a sudden energy prices start to skyrocket.

then you go over to putin and say go ahead and build yours and fuel europe that way through the nord stream 2 project. i mean i don't know what biden is doing but it is not america first, i can tell you that. elizabeth: why take that bargaining chip off the table about nord stream 2? why did he take that, why did president biden remove that bargaining chip off the table? >> it's a total mystery. why do you kiss up to russia, give them what they want before you even meet with vladmir putin? now president biden is going into this meeting. he doesn't have chips to play with. we've been under attack from russia, not necessarily the government but, those actors within russia but now he has no tools to, you know, bargaining chips to go through. look this is part of joe biden's background. he has been in washington d.c., for 50 years. he has no background in negotiation and it hurts our country. elizabeth: all right. jason chaffetz, thank you so

much for joining us. we really appreciate it. let's bring in "reason" magazine associate editor, robbie suave. you have a lot to talk about with this upcoming story. andy slavitt, former covid-19 czar, he getting slammed on social media for telling cbs said americans needed to sacrifice more during the covid-19 pandemic? 22 million businesses shut down. what did you think of his comment. >> i think it is insulting for people that tried hard. we were told we would have to lock down, social distance for 14, 15 days. that stretched on well beyond a year. people lost their businesses. they suffered depression. they were not allowed to see family members, couldn't go to funerals, churches, vacations, anything. many people who run the society mayors, et cetera, got caught doing things citizens were not

allowed to do. everyone tried their hardest for the most part. we couldn't have done more. in fact the fault was in government planners thinking this would make sense to do this forever. also giving bad advice all the time. remember when we were told the parks and beaches should be closed. now we know that was extremely safe activity. people could have been gathering socially if it was outside but the government told people not to do that. elizabeth: listen to andy slavitt. listen what he said. >> i also think we need to look at one another ask ourselves what do we need to do better next time? many respects being able to sacrifice a little bit for one another to get through this and save more lives, is going to be essential. that is something i think we all could have done a little bit better on. elizabeth: it is unclear what he is talking about. he could have been talking about doing more social distancing don't breathe on each other.

he is getting a paycheck. he is in the pundit class. you can't ask blue collar workers to say locked down to work from their homes because they can't. weddings, funerals, were canceled. traffic volume in cities was cut in half. what more americans could have done? >> some people have to go to work. they don't have the privileges that the government class, some of us in the fun did, writing class. i can mostly work at home. i have that advantage but not everyone can do that. people went a year without hugging their loved ones, without seeing their grandparents. people did sacrifice. they made tremendous sacrifices to save lives. it wasn't enough. this was, because this was a deadly disease unleashed upon us, so people still died and that's terrible but you can't ask that much more from people. the whole tone of his, his book is called preventable. this whole idea if we the citizens only tried harder we could have had some tremendous reduction in death, i find that laughable, especially given

everything wrong the government did telling us to scrub down the groceries, that early on they told us masks were not important. they slow rolled vaccine approval. the rapid tests were not even approved until december. remember when the fda screwed that up catastrophically? i see a lot of government failure. a lot of tremendous effort on the part of the common man to overcome this. you can only ask so much from people. we're not ought tom tons, we can't sit quietly in a cell for a year. it is wrong to ask that of people. elizabeth: rob birx thank you for coming on. good to see you. thank you for your insights. next up, growing scientists democrats and scientists who said no, but thousand it is possible that the covid leaked from the wuhan lab. comedian jon stewart believes that. congressman michael burgess is

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♪. elizabeth: we've got some breaking news. former president donald trump just put out a statement saying he has accepted the governor of texas' invitation to come visit the border on june 30th. the former president is saying that the border has been quote, decimated due to president biden's policies. we'll get to that later in the show. now we've got this story, reports coming in that one of the 20 scientists that signed the letter in the lan set last year that dismissed the covid leaked from wuhan lab. he is backtracking, telling abc news that he believes that a leak was possible. joining us congressman michael burgess. scientists are backtracking, yeah, it could have leaked. remember peter daszak,

eco-health alliance he funded the letter, and used to dismiss the lab leak theory throughout the year and this year. what do you say to this? >> for people not familiar with the lancet, in the scientific community, the medical community, the word of "the lancet" is gospel. to have that letter produced when it was, certainly went a long way towards quelling any of the discussion. now to hear one of the signers of the letter is saying maybe not, not so fast, that's a big deal and of course many of us felt right from the start, none of this added up. none of this made any sense. i'm grateful today for dr. redfield's admission. i think steve scalise, our whip on the minority side was right on target when he wrote to the speaker and said we need to have the investigation. of course she rebufferred him but it is still is important, it still needs to happen. elizabeth: a former official in

the state department told abc that the u.s. government knew that the chinese military was funding the wuhan lab and the state department knew. the state department in january reported the same information too. listen to canadian jon stewart. he went on "the late show with stephen colbert." he backed the lab leak possibility. take a listen to this. >> science has in many ways helped ease the suffering of this pandemic which was more than likely caused by science. novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking wuhan, china, what do we do? oh, you know who we could ask? the wuhan novel respiratory virus lab. the disease is the same name as the lab. look at the name. let me see your business card. show me your business card! oh, i work at the coronavirus

lab in wuhan. there has been an outbreak of chocolatety goodness near hershey, pennsylvania. what do you think happened? elizabeth: pretty funny stuff. what do you say to that, congressman? >> it would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. look, isn't it we're at a place now where the best news out of all of this it was a lab leak. the worst news is it could have been something more nefarious. we've gone from a year ago, no way it could be a lab leak, this had to be natural occurrence. jumped from bats to man in one generation. no one ever seen that before. of course that is the likely explanation. now the lab leak seems like again, the least, least malignant possibility. elizabeth: you know, when trump said this last year, dems ignored that in order to go after trump for what they said was his mishandling of the coronavirus outbreak.

there is also this, a major loophole in the u.s. government funding of dangerous supervirus research, this gain of function research it, could have led to potentially weaker oversight. here is what happened. the nih lifted a ban on u.s. funding in december of 2017. virologists and scientific community pushed for that. nih proposed new rules you have to have another layer of review. those rules did not apply to research privately-funded by universities and other parts of the government. only applied to experiments done by the hhs. what do you say? >> there is no question it did lead to a breakdown in oversight. look, all the people critical of president trump in those early days he didn't do enough, he withheld information, my gosh we all got the same briefings. everyone of us were in the member only briefings, republican, and democrat. i heard the same information that they heard. i went back to my district said, we need to get ready, this thing

will be really bad. trump was not withholding information. if anything he was out front trying to, let's stop the travel from that area because whoever heard of a city of 10 million people closed down before? no one had. when that was seen by the administration, secretary azar, president trump, did exactly the right thing, let's cut off flights from mainland china. and look, to their credit, to their everlasting credit that was the right decision. subsequent to that "operation warp speed" was an incredibly foresightful decision. that is as was referenced in your crip, that was one of the things that got us out of it the science surrounding "operation warp speed." elizabeth: okay, congressman michael burgess. thanks for joining us. good to see you. >> good deal. thank you. elizabeth: we're following a new report that says the democrats are under pressure to raise taxes after that pro-publica

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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome to the show brandon arnold from the national taxpayers union. brandon, it is good to have you on. media, including "the hill" magazine, good to see you. "the hill" magazine, looks like democrats will use this illegal irs leak of billionaire tax returns to "propublica" in order to set up their tax hike agenda. mitch mcconnell today saying there should be criminal prosecutions instead. how will this unfold? what do you think? >> well i think mitch mcconnell first of all is absolutely right. this is an egregious violation of the public trust. i get billionaires are not sympathetic character as average americans but we still should not have this rogue agency

releasing private information into the public domain. that is absolutely wrong. here is was absolutely done with the express purpose of building momentum behind biden's plans and warren's plans, other democrat plans to raise taxes on the wealthy. that is wrong. it should not happen. it shouldn't have happened before this leak but especially should not happen right now. elizabeth: because right after the illegal irs leak, massachusetts democrat senator elizabeth warren doubled down on her wealth tax. you have the senate finance chair, ron wyden, saying he will push to tax the upper bracket. and now you have a patriot tax from the new york democrat congressman thomas suozzi. that is happening too. you wonder how far can they go with this? you know what? let's listen to senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. he again says whoever did this, you should throw the book at them, and criminally prosecute them. watch this.

>> it appears anonymous source committed a felony by releasing confidential information of american citizens. american taxpayers are required by law to comply with invasive disclosure requirements and they're doing it with less and less confidence that the federal government will honor their trust. a fundamental piece of our nation's social contract is frayed but just how worried you should be about it apparently depends on your personal politics. elizabeth: depends on your personal politics. what do you say? >> yeah, he's right, absolutely. not only do they want to raise taxes but these very same politicians want to grow the irs, increasing 87,000 of irs agents come after you, small businesses, of course go after wealthiest, provide them with new powers. this, they're also proposing to

have the irs get information from banks about how we're spending our money, how small businesses, independent business are spending their money. guess what happens when we provide them with more private information? there is higher likelihood we'll have another hacker, rogue agent at the irs turning over this information, making our personal private information public. that should be terrifying for every american, whether you're a billionaire, whether you're barely scraping by. this is really, really wrong what we're talking about here. it is an egregious violation. elizabeth: republicans say they will try to block $80 billion extra funding democrats want to give to the irs around block new disclosures banks have to make on the gross balances of savings and checking accounts. do you think the gop can block this? >> i think there is a good chance. this may have put the wind at backs for people that want to raise taxes it will make it more difficult for them to increase the irs budget and provide those

additional reporting requirements as you just mentioned because people rin creasingly skeptical of the irs. if the irs can release information for jeff bezos and elon musk, why can't it release information about your small business, your local small business or individual taxpayers that are not making billions of dollars? it could release information about everybody en masse, and that is troubling. i think it's a reason why we need to slam on the brakes for some of the proposals coming out of white house and the congress. elizabeth: brandon arnold, thanks for joining us. come back soon. >> thanks. elizabeth: we're at the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. a top official at facebook admits, yes, its fact-checkers could be politically biased after facebook has been accused censoring trump, conservatives, the wuhan lab leak, information about the coronavirus and much more. congressman greg stuebe is back with us next.

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♪. elizabeth: joining us now from house judiciary, back with us is congressman greg stuebe. congressman, it is good to have you back on. we had a major, a pretty stunning disclosure from facebook vice president and former british deputy prime minister nick clegg. he is admitting to the european union, yeah, facebook fact checkers are biased and pursuing their own political agenda after they censored trump, conservatives and the wuhan lab leak. this is nick clegg saying that. what do you say? >> that shouldn't be surprised to any american kept up with the censorship with the big tech

companies. i had a chance to ask mark zuckerberg in the committee hearing that very question. he tried to deflect. i asked him do you have conservatives that are fact-checkers? he couldn't give me a single example after conservative organization or outlet part of his fact-checkers. we know very well his quote-unquote fact checkers are left-leaning if not left biased everything they are doing. i have can tell you i get phone calls and reaches out to our district office all the time about people in my district being censored, their posts being censored. it happens all the time throughout this country. it is not a surprise we have now factual evidence this is going on. elizabeth: he said could be politically biased that they have their own political agenda. former uk cabinet minister david jones commented on this saying it is deeply worrying. facebook announced its fact-checking partnership in 2016 to go after trump.

it led to all sorts of information being blocked on their own website. what are they? are they just a social platform or are they a publisher? >> they're absolutely a publisher why i have a bill that would reform section 230. until we reform section 230, their liability protection because they are acting like publishers, they will continue to behave in the manners which they want to behave. there is no retribution for them. nobody has any action they can take. look what the new york, what happened to the "new york post" with the hunter biden story. the "new york post" could do nothing and their twitter account was shut down. because they have liability protection under section 230. they act like publishers, like news outlets, like newspapers, unlike news outlets and newspapers they cannot be sued. they're continue behaving in the manner which they are behaving until we take the section 230 protection away from him. elizabeth: the issue, is the american people being misled too? that is also the issue. facebook has been accused of

biased censoring legitimate stories and stifling public debate including censoring stories relating to the possibility that the coronavirus escaped and leaked from the wuhan lab. it reversed its decision to stop blocking those stories when presidentwide ordered an inquiry into the claims. liver more national lab felt it was possible. >> it was deemed a conspiracy theory. anybody talking about the lab leak or covid came from the wuhan lab, you were censored or shut down or they wouldn't track those different comments on their facebook pages. absolutely that is happening. now suddenly the experts at facebook believe there is actually a possible connection it did come from a lab. now those type of comments are okay. they're 100% directing and determining what speech is appropriate for their platform that is publish, publicizing editorializing, it should be

stopped under section 230. they have liability protection. until we fix that they will behave in the manner which they're behaving. elizabeth: trump brought up the wuhan lab leak possibility last year. are facebook, social media, are democrats, is the gain of function bureaucracy in the government, are they hurting the national conversation and the american people because of their hatred for trump and blocking information about something that affected everyone's health? >> yeah. this has been political from the very beginning. look at all the different mask mandates, shutting down economies, all these things without facts, without any fact all basis for scientific evidence that that actually works. just because it came from the trump administration they were telling you not to do it. at the beginning of the vaccine distribution, liberals were saying, democrats were saying you shouldn't take the vaccine because it came from the trump administration. now they're saying it is safe to

take the vaccine. fauci said you didn't have to wear a mask and now you have to wear a mask and it was all political. hopefully at some point the american people will see what it is. elizabeth: congressman greg stuebe, thanks for being here. >> thank you for having me. elizabeth: next up, north korean defector, came from north korea to the u.s. she is slamming woke u.s. universities for intolerance, censorship, liberal group think. she says even north korea is not this nuts. that is a direct quote. joe concha is next. >> i realized wow, this is insane. i literally thought, i thought america was that different and i just asking i saw in north korea i was starting to worry about this country.

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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome to the show fox news contributor joe concha. we've got this north korean defector, joe. did you see this story? she said some aspects of what is going on at universities in the u.s., are quote more nuts than her homeland of north korea? that is quite a story. >> it's a fascinating interview. i actually watched it twice last night on fox news. elizabeth, it is just amazing, some of the quotes i took out of this. park is the woman that defected from north korea with her family to go to columbia university just north of you in new york. quote, i expected i was paying this fortune to go to columbia. all this time and energy to learn how to think but they are forcing you to think the way they want you to think. every problem they explained to us is because of white men. so think about this, elizabeth. while we obsess about race, about woke political correctness we're getting our doors blown off by other countries with far less resources and money on the education, we're not even in the u.s., with all the resources

u.s., not even in the top 10 in science, 30th in mat. companies are outsourcing seas, elizabeth, maybe because of costs but students in asia, india, europe are much better prepared. so educators in this country preach about diversity but they're not talking about the most important diversity of all, diversity of thought, elizabeth. elizabeth: park fled from north korea to china in 2007. she later moved to south korea in 2009. 2014 she began attending barnard college and later columbia university in 2016. this is not long ago. let's listen to what she had to say. >> even with my language i learned, i like say he as she by mistake. not because i don't respect them, but now they ask me to call them they. i said how the heck do i

incooperate that in my sentences. even north korea is not that nuts. i was like, north korea is pretty crazy but not this crazy. i was paying this fortune and time and energy to learn how to think but they are forcing me to think the way they wanted me to think. elizabeth: see that. she is paying a lot of money in tuition to be told how to think. really something. go ahead. >> i know. you think about what it costs to send a kid to college these days, columbia, costs about $300,000 for the whole boat for four years. i'm thinking, okay, so i'm going to work my butt off now as a parent. thankfully my parents are seven and five. they don't have cross this bridge but i'm saving already, but i will send them to top universities, ivy league universities to be taught how to think? we should be thinking our kids how to handle the things in the real world, elizabeth. how do you manage credit?

how do you take out a mortgage? how do you pay it off effectively? how many understand social media and email etiquette which is so important, how do you prepare for a job interview? i could go on and on all the things we should teach our kids. but instead we're obsessing about race, obsessing about political correctness, and kids are falling behind while they're programmed to basically not like each other based on the color of their skin than the content much their character. i believe a guy named king said that once. elizabeth: park is not alone. there was a parent who escaped maoist china. she was from china, telling a school board what you're teaching in u.s. public schools is what she and other parents from china escaped from. let's listen to her. watch this. >> we basically canceled the whole chinese civilization pre-communism. in a way changed our school names, street names, store

names. even our personal names. freedom was fragile. and we can lose it anytime if we don't defend it. critical race theory is not anti-racism. it is it is is racist. it is divisive. it is destructive and it is dangerous. elizabeth: freedom is fragile. she had a lot more to say. what do you say, joe. >> she did. san francisco actually voted, talked about changing names of schools. school names with george washington, the guy who won the revolutionary war, schools with abraham lincoln on it, the guy who defeated slavery. again we're teaching our kids that police are bad. that they're racist. that men are the oppressors, women are the oppressed. parents better start waking up to exactly what they're paying for in terms of taxes in their towns, eventually colleges. this is the type of education if you're somebody from north korea, you say we're actually worse than one of the most oppressive regimes in the world i think that is a problem,

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minute women of the border patrol love president trump and their morale is in the tank with the white house that is abandoned them, turn their back on them and unleased the border crisis we've ever seen, i'm very glad president trump will be download from them and show them a great amount of this country still has their back. >> we saw a heckuva show that the heckuva statistic, texas and is it a state of emergency as well over this, now we have business coming in, u.s. homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas said the u.s. will be prepared to address the border issues when title 42 is no longer in operation. can you break that down title 42 is the pandemic justification to turnaround folks at the border

the trump administration used it to expel all categories of individual crossing so kobe did not spread into the country the biden administration has whittled it down and hanging on by a thread they will get rid of absolutely completely an open season on our borders. this is the last thing that is stemming the tide a little bit, expect the numbers to go through the roof. we've been writing about this if you go to the biden border crisis.com website that we set up where we have all the analysis of what will happen and how this policy has created the worst crisis we've seen. elizabeth: if you get rid of title 42, backup he's saying were only going to adjust the board issues after they wipe out the trump order policies, how are they going to address it that means another border search if they get rid of title 42. >> you're absolutely right, it doesn't make any sense from negotiation perspective, what is the white house train to dubai make things working on purpose. the bigger picture here, look at the crisis that is going on, why is the energy and resources being devoted to stopping it why are we entertaining the idea of

doing things to make it worse, no serious person holds title 42 goes away, this gets better. we are staring down the barrel of losing our sovereignty as a country, we should not be waiting to act, this is why the vice president refuses to go and even touch this, it is the worst possible crisis that you could put together the border and they should be focused on putting back in place all of the policies that we know work whether it's border wall, having ice remove people, whether it's not promising millions of people amnesty and the greatest award of american citizenship their common sense things to be done we don't need to wait for it to get worse, the time for acting was a long time ago and certainly not waiting any longer. elizabeth: human smuggling is overseen by powerful crime syndicates across the border, they force the migrants to basically pay them thousands and thousands of dollars, put their

lives in the criminals hands and basically put their children in danger too. it is unclear if the information is really out there on this debate of how seriously criminally dangerous is is for people to try to cross illegally. >> it is absolutely awful, is terrific what happened especially to the women and young children who are placed into the hands of the vicious criminal organizations which charge thousands and thousands of dollars they will charge more if you're coming from a place like china or the increase in illegal aliens coming from not this continent but africa, even folks from down further in south america and venezuela. these cartels are making a boatload of money, some sensors and tens of millions of dollars a week and outdated like military organizations right now that could do a lot of damage should they wish, it's going to get to that point and it's terrible to make the money off the back of abusing so many people that president biden

kamala harris have told to make this dangerous journey to let them in. elizabeth: san diego is an example of a physical barrier on the border worked, it was built in the 1990s and by 2017 it cut the illegal migrant apprehension in half. you see that time and again, texas is just trying to do what happened south of san diego and by calexico, what is wrong with that? >> there's absolutely nothing wrong with it it should not be a political issue at all i was told this administration would trust the experts. i've never met a portable to officer that told me the wall does not work, it does work and give them time to respond to deters illegal aliens and makes them seek other areas to enter where border patrol can be there and waiting that's why the left hates the wall, they hit the wall because the wall works, they want open border and it means that is not open, so we have an orderly system, i think it's great that governor abbott is stepping up to the plate because they need to do every

available option to secure the border because texas is being overwhelmed right now and what they see as historic, governor abbott signals he will step into the plate and arrest people for criminal trespassing charges. elizabeth: mike howell, good to see you, think of for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, you been watching "the evening edit", that does it for us thank you for watching we hope you have a good evening. ♪. larry: hello welcome to cut though, i'm larry kudlow. were gonna try something different tonight. we are going to start the show with a heavy discussion of business and the economy please don't run away, the reason for this is very strange things going on, i've been around a while the numbers are popping up, the likes of which i really don't think i've ever seen