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david: much attention of gwen's insult, a more important and exciting thing happened at the lipid trials 21-year-old sidneye loughlin from new jersey a world record the 400-meter is the first woman to finish the and 52 seconds, that was something to see, good for herrs that doesn't for us on "fox business tonight", thinking for watching we'll see you on tomorrow, evening net it starts right now. elizabeth: former president trump relaunching his trademark rallies we stop this sound as fellow republican florida governor ron desantis, nikki haley, mike pence and mike pompeo reportedly considering running in 2024, tonight will it be a pushback from the republican party against trump as they ramp upta attack on the biden administration who is heading to the border this week in florida rally later this week, this is about your money, your future, joining me tonight texas congressman brian babin
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and, jason chaffetz, doctor marty makary, congressman rick crawford and chris stewart in dhs oversight mike howell back with us, we have this the justice department reporting is staggering rise in violent crime across the country but new york democrat alexander acosta cortez calls for concerns about that hysteria despite a double digit spike higher in shooting deaths in her hometown of new york and msnbc commentator again without evidence down play politicizing the rise in violent crime and we are following this the house republicans launching a new hearing into the origin of the covid-19 pender mike that killed within 600,000 americans, democrats led by nancy pelosi continue to stonewall and we are going to show you new footage of emerging of an ally of dr. fauci, he is peter daszak,
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nih funding, he is on tape boasting about creating killer coronavirus is in laboratories, senator bernieor sanders says no way to mitch mcconnell's demand that president biden force democrats chuck schumer and nancy pelosi to back down and not hold an infrastructure deal hostage to their big spending plans, this news clinton and obama's former treasury secretary are robert rubin and larry summers warning about high inflation that it could be here to stay because of the biden administration high velocity spending in a new controversy provides president kamala harris not only to the vice president to avoid thebo epicenter of the border crisis going there on friday the vice president also did not visit a facility housing migrant children that biden's hhs is investigating.
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even though that facility was minutes away, thank you for joining us i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts rightli now ♪ ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show you're watching the fox business network. let's take you to surf side for olga it is day five for looking for survivors of the terrifyingly thought and dangerous condo collapse steve harrigan has the latest. >> we saw another round of visits to the site of the collapsed condominium by relatives, close family members that take buses from the hotel t to visit the site some of them screaming the names of those, missing loved ones upon arrival others praying and others crying a difficult scene we spoke to religious advisors and it's a very emotional moment we heard reports that some family members
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are losing patience for rescue operation no one has been pulled ally from the rubble since thursday also the lack of patient with an explanation as to how this condominium can sibley collapse 130 in the morning on thursday, that is not the scene that we've seen here in front of this hotel a short time ago we saw a man embracing first responder and a rabbi thanking them for their work, his son was missing, here's what they had to say. >> my whole life here, but i want to thank them and i know they are with me. >> that man's son is one of those who died and positively identified between the collapse one of the ten his been identified and he was thinking
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the first responder for returning his dead song and giving him, the certainty to buy his own son as far as the numbers ten dad 151 still missing, back to you. elizabeth: thank you so much for your reporting we will stay on that story, thank you so much we begin the new segment with texas congressman brian babin and, it's great to have you back on president trump is relaunching his rallies, what is the potential impact on control of the white house. i think it goes without saying it's always good to be with you, that president trump is a factor leader of most of the republican party, i'm glad to say the successful rally that he had h n ohio and i think this puts a lot of pressure on the leadership of the house and thehe senate on te democratic side and all i can
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tell you they have been after this president and from the very time he took his elevator ride down to trump tower they have been after this president that he has been the most effective president in terms of policy ofl ever seen in my life and i'll tell you youou could look no further than the loss of our perspicuity that we had after covid hit us and look what's happening at the border, over and over again of what the biden the administration kamala harris and the rest of those people have proven that they are not up to the job of putting america first and making sure that we continue to have prosperity. elizabeth: the former president is scheduled to visit the texas border, he will hold a rally over july 4 weekend, the former president is working to attend gop members of congress including ohio representative
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anthony gonzalez who voted to impeach trump for his role in inciting the deanery six capital rights we have the manhattan da reportedly about to file criminal charges against trump organizations, possibly this week and critics are saying that could be a blow to trump as he's getting ready to hold his rallies nikki haley, mike, pompeo, ron desantis looking at 2024, what you said all of that. >> i think the republican party has got to be united and are push for a stronger in free or prosperous america we cannot be splintered, we cannot go one way and one going the other, it's just a prescription for continuation of this disastrous biden administration and control of the majority by the democrats. we have to be united front if we have to take back congress in two years, a year end a half and take back the white house.
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a lot of these people, governor desantis is a good friend of mine i served in congress with him, he's doing a phenomenal job in florida and i appreciate his support in texas in his f fight for our borders he's going to send them over to help governor abbott to secure this border. the left is always going to be after donald trump and they're going to be after the republican party, when will the left hold their own party accountable, it's gotta be a double standard. elizabeth: we hear you let's us in the former president trump of the rally on saturday, watch this. >> after five months the biden administration is already a complete and total catastrophe. i told you crime is surging, murders are soaring, police departments are being guided,
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illegal aliens are overrunning their borders, joe biden is destroying our nation, right before our very own eyes. >> all of it is going down the tubes because they don't know what the hell they're doing. >> we were right about joe biden and the democrats extremism on open borders, on socialism, taxes, energy, on the green new deal. elizabeth: republicans privately say two things are working against trump, the capital rights, his statements inciting the capital rights and repeated claims of fraud that he won in a landslide, you see that that is coming up about trump, would you say. >> much to say this again they are going to go after president trump, the heat president trump, his policies worked, we had a secure border the last year end
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a half we had the best most prosperous economy that we've ever had biden seems to get into the radical left and he always seems to put p america last and it's a different approach or donald trump who always put him first and let me just say this bad policies have bad consequences, america is seen this first with the biden administration kamala harris. elizabeth: got it, congressman brian babin, thank you for joining us. let's get reaction from fox news contributor jason chaffetz, who is the front runner desantis, trump, nikki haley, pompeo, what is your take on these ovens ? what do you say? >> senator jim scott and governor christie into that mix, what you're seeing is ahe very
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strong array of possibilities for the president to race on the republican side of the aisle, each of them understands and knows the first hurdle is 2022 and you'll see people trying to win back the house, take control of the senate and that is job one it makes 2024 much more plausible and doable because the democrats right now holding the house and senate, anybody who is trying to jump that 2022 understands very quickly from voters that job one is to dispose nancy pelosi as the speaker of the house. elizabeth: we hear your florida governor ron desantis western r conservative summits presidential historical we heard from republicans slamming trump for continuing to make claims of voter fraud, he ridiculed his rally as w wf a no court challenge has been successful in challenging the results. the your take away how it moves
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forward with trump looking like you make it back in the race. >> i think it's a mistake for republicans and conservatives to get in the war of personalities, the united republican party were rally around policies and they ultimatelyt affect this country, that is not a dodge on specific individuals and some of the naysayers of donald trump to understand the american people really did like the policies that he was implementing a reasonable regulatory scheme that is reduced what obama and biden in doing in taxes a thriving economy, limited government, these types of things a strong military, a strong police presence, and accountable present on the border all of these things unitas, for those in the war of
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personalities, that will divide us naturally you gotta be able to go and rally behind policies and that's a strength of the republican party. elizabeth: got it, it's good to have you on, come back soon. thank you for joining us tonight, great insights. the justice department reports a staggering rise in violent crime but new york government alexandria ocasio-cortez calls for concerns about allf t of tht hysteria despite a double digit spike higher and shooting deaths in her hometown of new york city and we got this, msnbc commentator again without evidence downplay politicized the rise in violent crime from "coast to coast" the senator is reporting about it. you are watching "the evening edit". ♪ >> one of my advisor said republicans defunded the police by not supporting the american rescue plan but how do you
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argument with the president never mentioned needing money for police to stop a crime wave when he was selling the american rescue plan. >> the pair incident did mention the american rescue plan state and local funding that was supported by the president, a lot of democrats who supported and voted for the bill could help ensure local cops were kept on the beat of the local country. that funding is keep cops on the feet seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage.
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the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now during our lowest prices of the season. elizabeth: let's welcome back to the show joe go volley. it's great to see you again the murder rate in the u.s. of the hyacinths and 60s growing by more than 20% d.o.j. reports a staggering rise and violent crime, what was your reaction when he heard new york democrat alexandria ocasio-cortez calling concerns about the hysteria. >> it is comical that someone that had the audacity to say that this is just hysteria, if you look at her own community in new york city the murders are up over 50% and she was dismissive of the statistic saying we don't have to pay attention to that, these are people, these are
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fathers, daughters,, mothers, sons and their being murder in our streets but what were seen as congresswoman cortez said the quiet part out loud to everyone that is these people on the radical left and some of the media selling for the public that defunded the police is going to make their community safer, what they're doing is essentially selling the public a bad bill of goods and as a result our communities are going to suffer. elizabeth: the other thing, the criticism that democrats like alexandria ocasio-cortez are trying to change the narrative after a year of defunded the police, of defunding cops and she's doubling down on defunding cops, double digit spike higher in shooting deaths and her hometown of new york there was a second tourist shot in broad daylight hours before broadway reopened a month ago another tourist was shot i would like
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your reaction to this msnbc commentators without evidence downplaying and politicizing the rise in violent crime, first you're going to hear ocasio-cortez and msnbc commentators. watch this. >> were seen the headlines about percentage increase i want to say in the amount of harm is unacceptable into much, i also want to make sure the hysteria this does not drive the hysteria and we look atbe the numbers in context so we can be responsible decisions about what to allocate in that context. >> what is your take, do you really think there is an uptick in crime the way that republicans are claiming. >> i don't think there is an uptick in crime and i can tell you that i know statistics can be manipulated. elizabeth: what context and what statistics are manipulated, what are they a talking about, blacks
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are dying, murders and homicides at a greater rate than ever and half a dozen cities we are seeing that data coming in, what are they talking about. >> what you're releasing the narrative matters, the lines don't matter to them, all that matters is the narrative we had open city council by $17 million while the homicide spiked by 87% in the fact of the matter they say law-enforcement does not matter we deliver historic i crimes over the last two decades in this country that led to an urban renaissance the fact of the matter we can do it a againf we restore the rule of law and hold violent criminals accountable and embrace the broken window series, we canmi deliver that and allw we ask for is a community for elected officials but let me show you how low they are and . how much they are caving to the far left on some of these things, polling does not support it, or gallup poll said 81% of black americans
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want the same or more police officers in the neighborhood in a recent poll in new york city black and latinos actually less than 15% want to defend the police department and stop paying attention to thesese radicals. t elizabeth: jen psaki white house press secretary string to flip the narrative and say it's republicans try to defend the police by not supporting federal spending and a rescue package people are saying this is incompetent analysis because last year's convention did notnt mention crime and did not mention the ryan's and you have democrat michael saying what you doing talking about defend the police, they're worried they're going to lose control of congress next year because you are supporting defunded the police, quality immunity protection for cops, cashless bail a shorter sentence, you art right the polls are showing people don't want this and there is a crisis in policing, thousands of cops are quitting nancy pelosi call cops storm
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troopers, ilhan omar said it's rooted in evil, your final word. >> i think what you saw washington speak she's trying to convince the public that somehow they are voted against $350 billion for officers when it was part of a bigger infrastructure plan if you put a bill out saying let's defend the police of 350 billion i bet everybody will sign off except for the radical individuals who continue to cap defunded the police, let me tell you in a notably morale has never been worse than i've seen in the lasr polices i've been a officer we can't get anybody to take this job in retirement is through the roof and there will be nobody left to protect these communities except for the police officers in their neighborhoods. elizabeth: thank you for your service to our country, it's good to have you on, come back soon doctor marty makary is next the house republicans launching a new hearing into the origin of the covid-19 pandemic that killed more than 600,000 americans, democrats led byti
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and fox news contributor doctor marty makary, it's great to have you back on, what do you expect to come out of the gop hearing into the origins of the pandemic this week nancy pelosi is stonewalling she is blocking the hearing and wants to focus on the capital riots, what do you say. >> i think a lot of people want closure people who have lost loved ones want closure and i can tell you as a doctor when somebody loses a loved one they want to understand the root cause what were seen as a political fight about to ensue because members have asked the nih for several documents that they have not turned over, relationships going back years ago to 2018, 2017, $7.9 million at the nih game to eco-health to fund the coronavirus is another viruses in southeast asia,ro ths letter of march 18 that kathy
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mcmorris rodgers led with other members of congress to meeting documents from the nih that likely to be a big source of the hearings and i think people have a right to demand more information right now. elizabeth: more than 600,000 americans dead, dr. fauci has not indicated whether he will testify he's reportedly been invited, we have disturbingfo nw footage, it is surfacing of an ally of dr. fauci, you know himt doctor peter daszak is at odds with dr. fauci's repeated denian of funding gain-of-function research at wuhan lab, here is doctor peter daszak he funded nih funding to the wuhan lab, he appears to boast about creating an engineering killer coronavirus at the wuhan lab, listen to this. >> you insert the protein to human cells and you cautioned this virus could really become
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hyper genic, you narrow down the sales and reduce the cost and a small number of viruses. elizabeth: really do look like killers, really do look like killers, number one do we need them for vaccine, number two kenneth the killer viruses leako from any lab? >> that's why the virology andpl scientific community has been split for many years what gain-of-function research should ever be performed and the argument against it when you mess with mother nature you're more likely to cause a global pandemic then you are to develop an early treatment, sequences and so good that people forget that, you can sequencer and tile human genome in one hour, if a virus ever goes out large we can sequence att that time the mrna vaccine was created in a matter of days and designed a computer
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model and we should not mess with mother nature and all of those people, peter daszak, anthony fauci, all the scientists that went around the country that talk about the value of gain-of-function research when done properlyhe ty should apologize and that camp should officially collapse, we should not hear any more about it. elizabeth: we don't have an aids vaccine, dr. fauci has been accused by house republicans and senate republicans of lying to congress about funding the wuhan lab senator rand paul be removed from any authority, i want to move on to this, and moving on to facebook was censuring what happened to the wuhan lab potential leak saying you were wrong. watchre this. >> facebook band any post performance about kobe coming from a lab, now even the biden administration is looking into this, google, the wall street
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journal reporter asked the head of google health division notice they don't do auto fill searches for coronavirus lab leak the way they do it for any other question and the guy said we want to make sure the search is in leading people down pathways that we would find to be not authoritative information. you were wrong google and facebook, we don't know the reason why we want you is because rechecking on this [bleep]. elizabeth: your reaction doctor, what do you say. >> this would not be the first time that we see no lab leak out of china in 197781 and one that killed 100,000 people was believed to come from a laboratory and we know there is a cover-up in china from the 2002 sars outbreak although that was not believed to come from a lab, there's a track record and to learn that big tech was a part of change in l the narratie is very frustrating. elizabeth: doctor marty makary
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we love having you on it's good to see you, come back soon, you're watching the fox business network were coming out of the bottom of the hour bernie sanders says no dice to mitch mcconnell demeaning president biden force democrat chuck schumer in nancy pelosi tong bak down, did not hold an infrastructure deal hostage to the big spending plan, that's what's at stake right now we have this clinton and obama former treasury secretary robert room and warning high inflation here to stay. representative rick crawford is next you are watching "the evening edit". >> i talked to a number of members of the bipartisan group they are reluctant to move forward and they're going to need more assurances from the president there is no connection and link between the bipartisan bill and the bill that the democrats want to do. ♪
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elizabeth: back with us now arkansas republican rick crawford on infrastructure, it looks like infrastructure deal is falling apart because bernie sanders says no dice to mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell saying the president you have to for schumer and easy pelosi back down or can hold infrastructure deal hostage to their big spending plans that is not dealmaking that is hostage taking the president did walk back the threat of a a veto, wht is what happened what do you think. >> it's hard to say it's interesting to know the loudest voices on infrastructure debate are coming from members who don't serve on the transportation infrastructure committee in the house and the house dni committee there's not a single member of the squad and they're the ones that seem to be attempting to steer this their way of their getting help from bernie sanders on the other side of the capital, when there's a crisis the first question people ask, who is in charge and were
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not getting an answer fromok the president and looks as the squad and bernie sanders are calling the shots and we cannot have that. elizabeth: mitt romney arson the republicans will not go for this, this is not dealmaking if you like hostage taking, are they botching the recovery they botched the shutdown, restaurants and bars and small businesses can't hire workers, people are being paid to stay at home, those areho facts, this is happening across the country it's gotten 26 states to say no more federal jobless benefits, enough is enough the missouri governor saying it's harming the recovery paying people to stay home now we have clinton and obama former treasury secretary robert rubin and larry summers in high inflation is here to stay, larry summers is talking about 5% inflation from all this high velocity government spending, what do you say. >> we need to go back to 2008 and think about the housing
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crisis that led up to this point at 300% increase in the national debt which is at $28 trillion roughly that will be the single biggest line item in our budget surpassing dissent and there has not been a single proposal on how we expect to pay for the infrastructure spending that people like bernie sanders and the squad are proposing, president biden seems to be going along with this, that's what concerns me the most, you want to talk about human infrastructure, if you're concerned about human infrastructure which a president indicated he's coined the new term then be thinking about your spending proposal that's going to do with human infrastructure to the pepper actual inflation. elizabeth: is an important point because that's a tax on the middle class, inflation, senator rand paul is saying stop the
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spending in places like afghanistan, bring the spending home lets us in axioms reporter jonathan swan along with bill cassidy and what's going on, watch this. >> bipartisan opposition to the non-hard infrastructure portion of their bill bipartisan in both chambers, that is number one, number two republicans think that portion is bad for our country we have an inflation rate higher than quite some time and that bill would make it higher. >> i spoke to republicans and democrats who are involved in those negotiations and i could not believe it when joe biden said this, we should acknowledge axong machine to basically present this deal as the greatest deal that's ever been struck essential for the iraqi people in a very short period of time but i'm not going to sign it unless simultaneously edit rides on my desk with another separate bill for social spending. elizabeth: people want to help
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middle-class families, they want to help families out there with children and more but the point is there is a wish list of a lot of unnecessary stuff, is it your point the squad, bernie sanders and elizabeth warren who are really controlling things and controlling nancy pelosi and controlling chuck schumer and biden, is not your point. >> there is a realization nation that they may have this one opportunity to get everything that they want because they're on shaky ground with regard tond holding a majority, i think they're gonna go for broke, literally and figuratively, i think they will put everything that they possibly can into this and hope that they can get it passed and hope that they have folks on the senate side and hope that they can get the filibuster to crumble and then they will get their way we can't sustain this our economy is in no position to sustain this level without any proposal to
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getting mixed messages they're willing to embrace iran and sanctions and they're willing to interfere in some of the friendships and relationships in the region to have a preferential relationship with tehran but on the other hand these locations are used to attack u.s. interest in personnel i'm glad they did it i just wish they would be more consistent and more willing to confront tehran as well. elizabeth: thank you for that ranking c house devin nunes revealed to maria bartiromo house intelligence new investigation into china's deepening influence across corporate america, tell us what's going on with this investigation that china is inside the pharmaceutical manufacturing agriculture entertainment media sports tech sectors, what is happening. >> all of its bill on this reality that president xi jinping has said this is not a
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secret, he states it very openly and frequently but by 2049 which is the 100th anniversary in the creation of the chinesers communist party they intend to be the worldte sold dominant por diplomatically, technologically in china, they are not friendly, they do not believe in many of our western values, human rights for example, this whole effort is to convince her business leaders by heaven sakes don't help china with these goals, be aware, understand how they have used their influence to change u.s. policy to change businesses decisions regarding china is a huge undertaking so important in the good news we are making progress in trying to convince business leaders and this is whatac you're facing it's time o open your eyes. elizabeth: china is trying to
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extract key technologies and information out of the operations, is that what's going on. >> it's more than just that we know that all along, is there anyone that doesn't know china has been stealing intellectual property for two generation anyone who doesn't know they have been hacking including the u.s. government and including powerful businesses this is a public relation influence as well look at the mba for an example how they convince the nba to defer to china chinese interest. locate institutes on many and most of our major universities look at their influence in thete media this is technological information, this is an influence to persuade them in the american people. elizabeth: chris stewart, thank you so much for amplifying and shedding light on the story, it is good to have you on come back soon up next my towel on a new
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controversy for vice president kamala harris not only did the vice president avoid the happy center of the border crisis on eriday the vice president also did not visit a border facility housing migrant children that biden's hhs is investigating even though it's minutes away, you are watching "the evening edit". >> i'm glad youni finally went t was about time 93 days is a long time to be in charge of something firsthand but it's important to recognize that she did not go nor take reporters were the real crisis is and that's in the rio grande valley she went to el paso which is tightly controlled border, very unlike the rio grande not on all like the things that are going on showing up, saying “hello! fancy a nice chat?” then we talk like two old friends about sticky buns and all the savings you could get by bundling your home and car insurance. but here's the real secret. eye contact.
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elizabeth: back with us now for me dhs oversight council at the seniore foundation's advisor, we are happy to have t you back on we have a new controversy vice president kamala harris not only did the vice president avoid the epicenter of the border crisis on friday the vice president did not visit a border facility housing migrant children that biden's hhs has been investigating even though this was minutes away from her visit in el paso, what is going on
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here. >> the reason is obvious she wanted to get a good photo of not a bad one so she went to the safest secure area on the border and then when she was there avoided going to facilities that house unaccompanied children which you just mentioned there at fort bliss over mind your viewers of the congresswoman from el paso representative escobar is the furthest member left of congress during the trump ministry she was sending her staff to coach how to lie their way into the country this is where vice president harris decided to go in a safe little bubble where she did not have to take tough questions or photos. elizabeth: former president donald trump said if he did not announce that he was going to the border that kamala harris would not of gone, donald trump had a lot to say about criminal illegal alien crime it is something that the media does
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not cover, let's listen to the former president, watch. >> just this month a previously deported illegal alien in massachusetts with prior charges murder and many other things gunned downth a man in broad daylight shooting ambitiously and violently as he lay in the street four times, right here in ohio a twice deported fugitive in 15 gang member anywhere in the world and we've taken out thousands and thousandsnd of now we want to let them come back, their empty in their prisons and the republican party we do not believe that violent criminal should be welcome into our country. elizabeth: what do you say? >> what is happening at the border the complete opening is a recipe for disaster with ms 13 violent cartels and gangs seen
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as white opening is really causing a lot of havoc. in the backend and the war on police that is on the white house and capitol hill. those two things combine worries me and keeps meth up at night, e have an immigration of customd enforcement t that are told they cannot supported anymore they are averaging per officer one deportation removal everyne few months so were not going to take care of the problem once the violent criminals are in the interior of the country we have a sanctuary country policy where it doesn't matter what you do, the bidenen administration will not remove you and it makes every town across the country a border town these people don't always stay on the southwest border there going everywhere in the country. elizabeth: kamala harris did not propose solution to stop the flow of migrants talking about root causes and giving more money to central america it looks like they do not want to solve the problem.
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refugees from around the world, the point is people die here illegally there killed that they can't play out or turnage are drug coyotes, they may suffocate containers put in by human smugglers, die in the desert, drowned at sea, this is all smuggling by profit-seeking criminals who treat them as commodities as goods and now we have a harris poll showing eight out of ten is serious and that the majority, 70% say the administration needs to pay more attention but where are the solutions to stop it? >> is a complete unwillingness to solve this problem from the administration because the problem is this administration they did this with support and when they went in and i didfu every trump policy because they hated the administration so much they thought everything that they accomplished needed to be undone and the results are painfully clear for everyone that you see stopping the border
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wall, shutting down ice, ending the remaining mexico program where people wait in mexico there being released into interior, the avalanche of undoing a border security immigration enforcement has led directly to thisy crisis. elizabeth: is good to have you want, thank you for joining us, i am elizabeth macdonald you been watching "the evening edit", that doesn't for us, thank you for watching and we hope you have a good evening, join us again tomorrow night. elizabeth: hello everyone welcome to "kudlow", am larry kudlow a lot tonight about too much spending into much taxing into matriculating let's go to capitol hill for the latest on the infrastructure swamp, here is the great hillary vaughn, good evening. >> good evening after this weekend when president biden walked back his threat to not sign the infrastructure bill and leslie came with the reconciliation bill with all the extras, republicans today are not buying it,
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