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♪ ♪ david: our top story, president biden signing an executive order today not only going after big tech, but attacking free markets as well. connell mcshane is at the white house with the details. hi, connell. >> reporter: you're right, it wasn't just big tech, it was the president taking on big business in what he hopes vernallingly will be a big -- eventually will be a big winch -- win. it was aimed, he says, at promoting more competition in the marketplace, some more competition across many different industries eventually with the goal of helping consumers by lowering prices and raising wages. >> fair companies is why capitalism has been the world's greatest force for prosperity and growth. by the same token, competitive economy means companies must do all they do -- everything they do to compete for workers. offering higher wages, more
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flexible hours, better benefits. >> reporter: now, to be clear about this, the president's plan today does not actually put in new rules or regulations in place right away. instead, it provides something of a road map for the commerce department or another federal agency to write these new regulations eventually which could have quite an impact down the road. but the president insists this is not an anti-business move. >> i'm a proud capitalist. i spent most of my career representing the corporate state of delaware. i know america can't succeed unless american business succeeds is. let me be very clear, capitalism without competition isn't capitalism. it's exploitation. >> reporter: the other big event here at the white house today was president biden's phone conversation with the russian president, vladimir putin. we're told that lasted for about an hour earlier in the day today on the recent ransomware attack. biden's said to have warned putin that the u.s. will take any necessary action to defend u.s. infrastructure, business, and a senior administration
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official added to that this evening saying that the u.s. response will become clear in the days and weeks ahead. david. david: i'd love to see a take from that particular phone call in details. it'd be nice to see that. connell, thank you very much. joining me now to discuss is steve forbes, "forbes" media chairman, and liz peek, foxnews.com columnist and fox business contributor. wonderful to see you both here. so, steve, the president claims he's a capitalist, as you do as well, of course. he says something sounds very reasonable, fair competition is why capitalism has been the world's greatest force of prosperity and growth. so far so good. but then you get into the details, and what do you find, steve? >> what you find is socialism by regulation, socialismly investigation, and -- by investigation x this is a way of controlling the economy without formally taking it over. businesses are going to have to pass muster on numerous things through numerous bureaucracies,
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and if they're truly interested in competition, they'd be removing roadblocks especially from small businesses on the tax and regulatory side. and if they're really interested in competition, david, they'd be promoting education savings accounts to break up the government monopoly in education k-12. i didn't want hear anything on that. david bingo. liz, he claims to want to help small businesses. again, that's fine. we all want to help small businesses. they are the engines of growth, particularly job growth in this country. but they are getting killed by his policies that keep people at home. there are 9.3 million unfilled positions, most of them by small businesses because of his policies. there's a huge demand for workers, and he's working against that. >> yeah. david, any number of surveys have shown that the number one concern among small business owners and managers right now is finding good people. david: right. >> and you're completely right, it has been government policies
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in particular the extra $300 a week incremental unemployment compensation that has really prevented people from going back to work. the good news is i think 26 statements now have -- states have stopped those payments, and you have seen an increase in people applying for jobs in those states. but you're completely right. if there's one thing that alarms small business right now, it's rising costs. it's not just labor, by the way, it's costs across the board. general mills said they were looking at inflation of 7%. all those costs are landing on small businesses in particular, and it's very tough. david: and you look at energy costs, again, supply and demand, steve. this president and his advisers don't seem to get it. just as the demand if is going way up for oil and gas, the supply's going way down because this administration's trying to kill fossil fuels. he's going directly against the laws of supply and demand, and he can't do that for long and get away with it. >> no, and that's where he's
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vulnerable, is at the gas pump. when you hobble exploration, make it impossible to do anything on federal lands and then you have the spectacle of this administration begging opec, increase your output. we don't want to get hit with more rising gas prices at the pump. well, it's contradictory. you're crushing it at home, then you're encouraging people who don't like us like iran and russia to supply more of our energy needs. bizarre. david: and then you have jen psaki blaming american consumers for not understanding what's happening with the prices at the pump. they understand perfectly well. first, they understand when they go to fill up. second, they understand the fact that they are trying to kill the supply, the american supply while going hat in hand to get more expensive, dirtier fuel from opec. >> if you're asking me that, david -- david: yes. >> -- you're absolutely right. the energy policies of this administration are completely backwards. we are helping russia increase
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their exports, we're helping iran increase their exports, and we're not so keen on american companies doing that. it is really bizarre and something that really benefits the country that doesn't have oil more than anyone else but is incredibly disadvantaged in competing with the united states, and that's china. if you really wanted to disadvantage american producers -- not just oil producers, but across the board, manufacturers and everybody else -- ramp up our costs of electricity and power via mandating renewables. that's what we're doing. that's why california has 50% higher electricity costs than the rest of the country. soon the rest of the country will be there too. david: so costs are going up because of inflation, costs are going up because of energy prices and, steve, pretty soon costs are going up because of taxes as well. what are you expecting when the tires hit the road to find from this administration on tax hikes? >> one can hope that the whole
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difficulty of getting tax increases through congress will get rid of the worst of them. i think there's a realization that raising taxes is going to hurt the economy, and this is where the rising gas prices is going to help. people don't want prices going up, and the key thing for republicans, david, is to make the connection between those tax increases and fewer job opportunities, fewer wage increases, a lower standard of living. when people hear that this is going to hurt future prosperity, they suddenly say maybe that isn't such a good idea, raising all those taxes, especially on capital goings. everyone has a 401(k) these days. david: well, that's -- just about everybody does. and, liz, this particular series of executive orders claims that they will promote innovation and create even faster economic growth. can you name a time in american history when more willing regulations and higher taxes -- more regulation and higher taxes have led to a promotion of
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innovation and a creation of faster economic growth? >> you know, i really go back, it's really obama 2.0. and i'm just so shocked that biden doesn't get that the avalanche of regulations during obama's eight years provided us -- produced the slowest recovery from a recession since world war ii, david. david: right. >> i don't understand how they don't connect those dots and understand that what they're doinged today, 12 federal agencies now looking into every facet of american industry to look for competitive problems after all, already taking on racism, taking on climate change. i mean, american businesses are going to be just hit with so many investigations and rules and regulations, it's exactly like what we saw under obama. and it will not spur growth. david: we'll see what happens -- >> and, by the way -- david: very quickly, steve, go ahead. >> biden calling himself is a capitalist is like elizabeth warren who called herself a capitalist, an absolute
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perversion. [laughter] david: good to see you both, liz and steve. >> thank you, david. david: the dow, s&p 500 and nasdaq all closing at new highed today following the steepest lost in three weeks. today's bounceback pushed the major averages into the green for the week, up for a third week in a row. well, the cdc releasing new guidelines for schools, but the rules are not relaxed for everyone. wait until you hear this. ♪ ♪ knowing he'll be okay. goes a long way. this is financial security. and lincoln financial solutions will help you get there as you plan, protect and retire. rush hour will never feel the same. experience, thrilling performance from our entire line of vehicles at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2021 is 300 for $379 a month for 36 months.
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population because some students will be old enough and others not. the new guidelines highlight the cdc admitting that students benefit from in-person learning, and they go a step further to make that happen, encouraging school districts who can't keep spaces 3 feet apart for unvaccinated children to come up with other safety precautions and to use local health data to make calls about what works best. there is no vaccine for children under 12, but pfizer and moderna are conducting trials. and, david, perhaps the biggest sticking point is whether schools should require proof of vaccinations. back to you. david: lauren, thank you very much is. meanwhile, the influence of woke ideology in our schools is not just limited to public schools. at a catholic prep school outside of chicago, highly-paid diversity consultants were brought in last fall to train faculty and students on critical race theory and woke ideology. our next guest wrote about this and began receiving phone calls from parents all over the country saying the same thing was happening in their kids'
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catholic schools. for details, here's the author, noel maring, a author of the new book, "awake not woke: a christian response to the cult of progressive ideology." noel, thank you for coming in, appreciate it. it says a lot about the perniciousness of the woke culture, in particular critical race theory, that it's now in catholic schools. how did that happen? >> i think it's gained enormous influence and power, and power is really the aim of it. parents all over the country, christian, catholic and public, are revolting against this movement because they rightly recognize that the goal is not simply to help us be aware of injustices, racism and etc., and to aim for justice. rather, the goal is the warmed-over latest version of marxism, and they're trying to teach the kids to see the world through lenses of power and become enemies of one another,
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ultimately attributing everything to either being a part of an oppressed class. where marx had economic oppression, the woke brought in categories to include gender, sexuality and race. everyone who's not a white, straight male. david: this is all coming from something related to it called critical theory that was started by a group of marxist back in the frankfurt school back in the 1930s and '40s. critical race theory spread out from that, critical legal theory, all kinds of branches of this. but the catholic church is against the notion of collectivized vilification, which is what critical race theory does, so how could the catholic schools pick up on something that a goes against their fundamental values? >> well, i think we have to understand that the church is the target of this movement. and so they have been infiltrating and trying to subvert our healthy families'
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integrity, but also the churches, and ultimately, the ultimate target is god himself. so these things cannot be reconciled. they're fundamentally incompatible. so the church will triumph over this, but it's going to be a struggle, and there's a lot of confusion right now over whether or not we can reconcile catholicism, christianity, with crt and the woke movement. david: one advantage the catholic schools have that, unfortunately, public schools don't have is most catholic schools don't have to worry about the teachers' unions. and as we know and we explored, excuse me, yesterday the fact that teachers' unions now have a legal defense fund to fight the removal of critical race theory, that's not going to happen in catholic school. so won't parents, the more they find out about this, be able to kick it out of the classroom? >> i think that's right. large amounts of donations are being rescinded from catholic schools across the country. and if then voting with their feet if the school is
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intransgent, if they won't change, alter course. so so i think we will see them being deprived of a lot of students, money and power the further they dig into this woke ideology which is, ultimately, ideologying that harms everyone, especially the people they most claim to want to help. david: and you got phone calls, correct me if i'm wrong, from all over the country from parents saying, jeez, this is happening in my school. do they feel confident they can get it out of their kids' classroom? >> some do and some don't. i think a lot of people are realizing this is not a fight they're going to win, others are staying and trying to battle. people are getting new clarity, and i think we need clarity so much because this really operates on deception. and so that's really why i wrote my book, to help people really see what is happening. not just see it, but fight against it. we need clarity, we need courage, and we need to know who our enemy is. the enemy is not the people deceived by the ideology, it's the ideology itself. noel mering, thank you very
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♪♪ david: the biden administration not budging on lifting international travel restrictions to the u.s. this according to a white house official. despite u.s. industry groups and lawmakers pleading to allow travelers on american soil again as small businesses are reeling from the loss of international tourism. joining me now is the u.s. chamber of commerce vice president of immigration policy.
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john, good to see you. so how much is this loss of business costing u.s. companies? >> david, thank you for having me. this loss of business is costing companies greatly. david: do you have a specific number, john? >> estimates that we see have us about $175 billion with a b if they don't start reopening visa processing now or in the near future. and that's going to be a burden that is borne largely by, you know, businesses in the hospitality sector. a lot of which are small businesses, like you said. so, you know, whether it's restaurants, you know, guided tour companies, other attractions, it's going to be profound. david: so is it just, is it just the consulate offices in other countries that have to be opened up? is that what you're talking about? >> that's one thing. we definitely need to have
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consulates open up, you know in as of may, the latest that i heard from the cato institute was 72% of consulates abroad are either partially or completely closed. david: wow. >> that is a lot. and that means the vast majority of people who are trying to get here whether it's for trips or they want to reunite with their foreign national relatives here in the united states, it's virtually an impossibility. david: and we see the big companies, i mean, the big hotel chains, etc., and airlines are hurt, but there are many more small businesses that are being hurt by this than the big businesses, right? >> indeed. there are quite a few small businesses around the country that are seeing an awful lot of -- a loss of traffic at their companies whether it's less people coming to their attractions, less people renting cars from their company, less people that are visiting their
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attractions. that's a problem. and there's -- you know, after the summer they had last year where it was really tough for them to survive, it's going to be tough for them to, you know, face another summer where they were thinking a recovery summer, and it's just not materializing the way that they had hoped. david: and, john, even if these travel restrictions were removed, the question is for a lot of these small businesses, can they find the workers if they have that increased demand from all those foreign tourists? there's a lot of questions about whether the workers are going to be there because these unemployment benefits are going to continue throughout the summer, until september. >> david, i'm glad you asked that question because a lot of these same businesses in the hospitality sector, they are having a really tough time meeting their work force needs. this is, you know, you look at amusement parks. not just the big ones, you think
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of the name brand amusement parks, but the smaller parks across the country. they have shifts for roller coasters where you have two, one's open in the morning, the other one's open in the afternoon. lots of their attractions are closed. they had three places where you could eat, they only have enough staff to open one. it's really unfortunate because, you know, these are problems that were easily foreseeable and could have been solved had the federal government acted sooner. david: i hear that phrase so often, it could have been solved so easily if the government just relied on the markets to take care of these things. john, thank you very much for being here. i hope this does turn around soon. i appreciate it. well, our stars and stripes woke curriculum in the military. yes, it's there as well. a west point grad responding to critical race theory being taught to air force cadets. the latest on that story coming next. ♪
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benefits, and she's already been waiting over a year. she wears her husband's dog tags and cross for support. he asked her to wear those items close to her heart after he passed away. >> i think he will think that i was very courageous and hopeful, hopefully i can get it through my persistence. >> reporter: but there are a9 hot of requests, 500,000 sitting in a backlog of others after the archives and the national personnel records center had to greatly pare down their staff during covid. many question though how the national archives had time to conduct a huge internal study on racism with a 35-member task force that found there was too much attention on the founding fathers in the rotunda and not enough on other cultures. lawyers working with susana say people like her should be the priority.
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>> if they don't have access to these records, they can't even meet the basic eligibility to prove that they can get these benefits. so we need these records in order to show when the veteran served, how long they served, what type of discharge hay had. >> reporter: -- they had. >> reporter: susana's lawyers are asking them to expedite the requests to older veterans' spouses. she turns 90 tomorrow. david: good luck to her. it's hard to get the government moving. anita, thank you very much. an air force academy professor thinks that not to do so, not to provide woke training in the air force, would be unpatriotic. why i teach critical race theory, she said, quote: it is vital that cadets understand the history of the racism that has shaped both foreign and domestic policy. here now is west point grad
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jeremy hunt. jeremy, great to see you. these cadets have pledged their allegiance to the u.s. constitution. critical race theory demeans the u.s. constitution. isn't that a to con a that diction? contradiction? >> i think so. it's really shocking that this professor would come out and just boldly say, hey, i'm teaching critical race theory to our nation's next generation of young officers. and if you notice, the conversation has actually shifted a little bit about critical race theory. it used to be that we were all making this up, that conservatives are just, you know, kind of toking at windmills, making up these enemies that don't exist. but actually now they are admitting that, yes, we are teaching this at the air force academy, we're teaching this, even some teachers are coming out saying i'm teaching this in public schools and high schools, that kind of thing. so we're finally getting the truth here. it's very interesting how it's kind of shifting the conversation. david: yeah. well, the head of the joint chiefs is the one who sort of
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came out and announced that it was being taught, although he kind of couched it in a way that a made it seem as though you have to understand the enemy's game. but let me just play his remarks and get your response. roll tape. >> so what is wrong with understanding, having some situational understanding about the country from which we are here to defend? and i personally find it offensive that we are accusing the united states military, our general officers, our commissioned, noncommissioned officers or being, quote, woke or something else because we're studying some theories that are out there. david: it's not studying theories. this is a woman, this professor, she's an associate professor of political science at the air force academy, she thinks that teaching critical race theory is the patriotic thing to do. she's lauding critical race theory even though, as it's been mentioned time and again, it was developed by marxists to undermine the u.s. constitution and our way of life here. >> that's exactly right. i mean, she seems to be clearly
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out of step with what the general was saying. and in her mind, this is something we need to be endorsing. we're not just studying theories in a kind of neutral way assessing different world views. actually, critical race theory has normative claims 'em wedded in it. -- embedded in it. it wants to change away oppressive thinking, whatever that means. they can define oppressive thinking however they like. normative claims how we ought the approach justice and equity, as they say. so it absolutely is not just a neutral understanding of history, it does have a lot of opinion woven in it. and the problem is, is that if we study these kinds of ideas next to maoism, marxism from which it came and all the different things, then, you know, maybe in that way it's helpful to understand that there are other world views out there, but that's not what's ago happening here. it's being taught as a way the endorse. david: and it's being taught to future officers who are going to be commanding a group of people in the military. how do you think it might affect
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their ability to do that? i mean, you can't taken the time when you're in the military of distinguishing between races, can you? i mean, the beauty of the military, one of the great things about it, is it doesn't distinguish between races. when you're in boot camp, you're all treated mean, you know? no matter what color you are. [laughter] >> right. on one hand we're telling people that, look, the military's all about one team, one fight, we're all in this together. but on the other hand, we're saying but actually we need to make sure we discriminate against people based on the color of their skin. those two ideas cannot be reconciled. david: i've got to switch gears, and i don't mean to beat up on the air force, but this is another example from the air force. they're changing their physical training standards, their recenters. the new air force fitness test is going to feature walking instead of running and modified push-ups. the service is experimenting with a choose your own adventure
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physical fitness test. again, you know, this isn't summer camp we're talking about, this is defending our nation. >> yeah. well, this is why i joined the army. you know, i didn't join the chair force. [laughter] in all seriousness, i will say this: look, i hope this is informed by research and that the leaders of the air force have really thought this through. i trust that the officers and the leadership in the air force, i don't know if this is actually coming from the top down. we know that the biden administration, their favorite experiment is the military. so we have to be very careful about where is this policy coming from, is this a new take the biden administration is trying to promote. we need to get into the weeds and see what's going on here. but i really hope that's not the issue here. david: i hope so too. jeremy hunt, good to see you. thank you for your service, have a great weekend. appreciate it. well, the biggest names in conservative politics meeting at c spank. we're going to be -- cpac, we're
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david: well, from border chaos to rising inflation and taxes to a spike in crime, there's a lot of fodder for the annual conservative political action conference, or cpac, opening today in dallas. what is the overriding message? here now is matt schlapp are, american conservative union chairman. he joins us live from dallas. matt, great to see you. congratulations, as always, it's a spectacular event. before we talk about what, i want to talk about how. how do you put the message out there when the mainstream media is giving a total pass to the biden administration because they're essentially propping them up? >> well, you know, this is the problem we're in, that's why the president announced this lawsuit against big tech which cpac has signed on to. think about his speech in orlando, david. 31 million views right out of the box, more than the academy aa wards and the grammys combined, and then they canceled it. so even when we have great speeches at cpac that really put the message, at any moment any of us can be canceled, and
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that's why this lawsuit is so important. david: and i assume that's why the title of your conference is america: uncanceled. do you really think that that is going to hit a chord that will sort of combine all these issues that i mentioned in the intro? >> yeah, completely right, david, and thank you for reminding me of our own -- [laughter] of our own theme, because it's so important. these people who are at this conference, the thousands of people that have come across the whole country to be here, they just feel like they're not getting a fair shake from these big tech companies. they feel like the national news media is against their values, and now they realize their schools are teaching their kids to hate america, to question their gender at tender ages. this is a disgraceful amount of propaganda and reallyville that's afoot -- really evil that's afoot in this country. that's all a part of. canceling the american family, canceling the american conservative, canceling the constitution, the flag. i could go on and on, but it
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makes me sick. david: what is extraordinary, matt, and i'm sure you feel it as well, is how the administration is in a state denial. they deny that the border is open, they continue to insist it's closed no matter how many videos we come out with on fox news and fox business showing it wide open. they deny that there's crime in the streets. they deny that defund the police was the message of the democrats -- >> that's right. david: when, in fact, they're the ones that have put this in place in cities all over the country. and, of course, now they're even denying there's inflation. they came out with that a crazy figure about the cost of a barbecue which was dead wrong. but aren't americans smarter than this? can't they figure out that these denials don't match reality? >> they are. so let's talk about the texas example. those folks that live along this border, and most of the border is in texas' jurisdiction, the people that live near these porous border where illegal people are pouring over the border, drugs are pouring over the border, they are turning
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against joe biden and the socialist democratic party because they have to live with the drugs and the crime and the tumult. so each one of these questions, whether it's the question of crime that's exploding in our communities, it's people of color who are living in these commitments that have dead relatives on the street, dead cops in their families because of the whole black lives matter movement and defunding the cops. joe biden now says that he's not for defunding the cops. he's never issued one statement that was a critical of black lives matter on the movement the defund the cops. the democrats own the open border. the democrats own the crime that's exploding in our communities. and the democrats own the fact that people of color are being harmed by their policies despite the propaganda they try to push through their allies in the national media. david: i'm just curious, do you folks have outreach programs to help people in communities to get school boards the way they should be, to get city councils
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the way -- to get rid of some of these district attorneys? these are elections that most people very often overlook. they're focused on presidents, senator, congressmen. but these local elections for city council, etc., for school boards, they're the ones that really count as we see in terms of dealing with our future. >> that's right. david: particularly our children. >> no, that's right. and it's very important that we, that cpac sees texas as it was in florida, because these are big, mega states, and what's happening in these big, mega red states that are fully open, you're seeing these grassroots heroes step up, and the videos go viral as they criticize critical race theory or go out there and say that the school boards need to actually teach our kids to love this country. those heroes will be on the stage at cpac, david. this is really what's going on in this country. there's a brand new grassroots revolution. it's really not conservative, ooh even though we're a conservative group, it's
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pro-american. our history's not perfect, but with i'm so proud and blessed to be born in this country as i'm sure you feel and many of your viewers feel, and the people in this country and the people in this room are tired of the left trying to rip america apart. we won't stand for it. david: i think our pride is stronger than the cancel culture. i think that's clear. matt. >> lap, best of luck to you. appreciate it. well, the cpac conference comes the same week former president trump, as matt was telling us, announced he was going to be suing big tech. in an article in the "wall street journal," he explain why saying in part, quote: big tech corporations have teamed up with government to censor the free speech of the american people. this is not only wrong, it is unconstitutional. joining me now to discuss is declan beganly, inventer, telecom entrepreneur. good to see you, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me, david: let me just read to you section 230 of the
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communications act which deals specifically with some of the things that the president was talking about. it says no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider. that is to say, your not allowed to do a lot of the editing and certainly the censoring that has been done over past year that we've seen time and time again that may have had an effect on the last election we had in the united states. aren't these social media companies publishers and, therefore, going against the law of section 230? >> not only are they publishers, david, they are the most public -- powerful publishers in the world. they're publishers that can shut down one of america's oldest newspapers on social media, "the new york post," as we saw just ahead of the last election. and whatever your politics, that sort of power being wielded by a very small number of
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corporations who exercise regulatory capture is unhealthy for democracy, it's unhealthy for the public square. david they'd yeah. >> they know own the public square or largely own the public square, and they have to be held accountable to the same rules that other media are. david: so here's the problem, how do you stop the censoring, the shadow banning and all the other bad stuff without interfering with entrepreneurship and the innovations that come out of that community? >> in fact, i would say that the kind of crony corporatism that we're seeing that's allowing this to happen is actually harming entrepreneurship. that kind of power is harmful to all innovation and all new ideas. so the kind of actions we need to see are legislative actions that subject these companies to the same laws that every other publisher and media company is subject to be they defamation laws, etc. they are responsible. if they decide to edit, then they have to be held accountable
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for the editing that they are doing. of once you're editing, you're publishing, you're making decisions on what people and cannot see. you have to be subject to the same rules as everybody else that does the same thing. david: so just to put a fine point on it, if they do engage as many have in editing and censoring, you strip 230 away from them. they no longer have that protection. >> unquestionably. i mean, there's no way they should -- that was introduced, that law was introduced in february of 1996 which is ancient history compared to where we are in today's world of media. it could not have anticipated what was going on. they should not have these protections. david: very quickly, i want to move to china because all of these so-called woke companies have gone to extraordinary lengths to become cronies of the communist chinese party, excusing them of everything. what is your take on this? their covering for the ccp.
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>> the law is the market of the -- the massive market, the largest in the world in terms of numbers of consumers, that the communist party of china controls that. 's the drug -- that's the drug, if you like, that they are in pursuit of. and the principles that some of these, as you call them, woke companies that these crony corporates have been prepared to sacrifice in the pursuit of getting the blessing of the communist party of china to be able to access those people, those people that the communist party of china are repressing too, that's why we are seeing these companies throw all principles aside when it comes to being allowed access to those people that the communist party of china controls. that's what's going on. david: you know, you've got a big portfolio, so i'm going to try another one with you because you have been scriptal in trying -- instrumental in trying to get the churches back open in ireland. they haven't opened up the way they have in england, although they're beginning to. them us what these lockdowns --
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tell us what these lockdowns have revealed about government interference in our private lives. >> they've revealed a group think, a sense of group think and control that has become so risk-averse that we are now sacrificing not just our economies, but also religious freedom. ireland has had in place the largest -- the longest running ban on public worship in the world apart from north korea and saudi arabia. it's hard to believe that that that has happened in ireland, but it has. and, therefore, i have to take this court case. but what we are seeing largely is a resignation of accountability and responsibility from those that are charged with it, those that have it and a surrender to the woke agenda, the crony corporatist agenda, the agenda driven by regulatory capture that is restricting and further restricting the area of freedom
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