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house budget committee, economic strategist mitch roschelle, senator bill hagerty, former dhs official laura reeves. meantime crime is out rise across the country. more and more law enforcement officials are pointing fingers at the court system releasing violent people back into the community. courts that are usually following what the elected officials have put in place. we'll talk about that. democrats scramble to keep their costly infrastructure deal alive as hurdles are put up by speaker nancy pelosi and republicans. florida ended the extra $300 in unemployment benefits. some businesses are actually seeing a increase in job applicants but a group of floridians are pushing back in court to getted added benefits back. this as the delta variant spreads putting our economic recovery in question. plus demonstrations continue in the nation's capital demanding that president biden take stronger action to help the freedom fighters in cuba. this as the communist regime
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blames the united states for molotov cocktails thrown at the cuban embassy in paris. also the border crisis deepens. i.c.e. nabbing more than 300 illegal immigrant sex offenders since june. meanwhile the biden administration is planning to speed up deportations for some migrant families traveling with children as part of a 21-point plan but is it too little too late? i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. jackie: good evening over and thank for joining us on the program tonight. new guidelines from the cdc today as coronavirus delta variant cases are on the rise. now some states are requiring workers to being vaccinated. edward lawrence is live at the white house with more on this. good evening, edward. reporter: breaking news within the last 30 minutes we're hearing from a source familiar with the announcement folks at
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white house who work here have been told they have to wear their masks inside of the white house. the cdc director said she did not take this step lightly. the cdc seems to be going backwards on recommendations for masks. anyone in a high transmission or substantial transition area will now have to wear masks even if they're vaccinated and an indoor public place. the cdc recommend community leaders should push not only vaccines but also masks. finally the cdc recommend schools reopen, but everyone in a school from teachers to students wear a mask regardless of vaccination status. this map we'll show you orange and red, u.s., most of the u.s. falls into that substantial or high category for needing to wear a mask even if you're vaccinated. this message is very different than the message from the past few months. listen from the president here in may. >> therefore if you've been fully vaccinated you no longer need to wear a mask.
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let me repeat, if you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask. reporter: until 3:00 p.m. today. the president now late today says the more we learn about the coronavirus the more concerned we should be about the virus. the cdc or the white house is saying that the reason the cdc has changed their guidelines because the virus is also changing. listen. >> because our goal is to save their lives and our goal and responsibility and the responsibility of public health officials is to continue to provide updated guidance if it warrants from an evolving virus. reporter: the cdc director acknowledged today this is unwelcome news for anyone that got vacs it thatted. back to you, jackie. jackie: forthank you, edward lawrence. devin nunez and dr. marc siegel. i want to start with you on the about-face from the cdc. as jen psaki said we're following the science as a
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nation. this is an evolving science but there is argument to be made if i'm an american citizen got the vaccine, trusted in the system, did the right thing now the cdc is telling me i have to wear a mask which is counterintuitive. it will make people who are not vaccinated not trust in the system and the vaccines themselves. >> well, first of all that is a really good way to frame it, let me tell you spoke to cdc director walensky and she clarified a lot. the issue is the delta variant is talking a lot of virus in people who are vaccinated and get sick. that is a very small percentage, but that is a change. that is the delta variant. for those who get vaccinated, don't get sick there is very low chance they're harboring this virus. that is a group of 10,000 people they're studying. they're doing more testing of asymptomatic people, if you are sick and vaccinated you have a risk of spreading. if you were not sick and vaccinated that's great.
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so this is essentially an overreaction designed to focus in, jackie on areas where there is a lot of virus around for fear that somebody could spread it to an immunocompromised person who is unvaccinated or somebody at high-risk. it is really a public health move. it is not really a political move and not really a moving of the goalposts although it may feel like it. i want to add something really important here, it is the vaccine that matters not the masks. masks are very, have he very secondary. we don't want to put them in the same category. the administration should not put them in the category. the vaccine will work the vast majority of the time. walensky says people are got hospitalized who get the vaccine period. jackie: that is the point, doctor. that is the point. if you have the vaccine you will not be hospitalized you will not die. that is why you went to get it vaccine. now they're telling you want got
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to wear the mask. you want the rest of the country to get vaccinated. it is not to impose mask restrictions. >> i understand and i don't think, i don't think imposition bothers me anything that ends up being a mandate bothers me. that can easily backfire here, the issue is if you're in a high-risk area around someone at risk who is unvaccinated might add a mask. like i do in the doctors office. jackie: doctors office or when i'm down on the sving said thatn this for one moment. i want to get to the congressman because there is more hypocrisy coming out of administration. jen psaki about travel restrictions. we'll be maintaining them. a lot of restrictions with respect to international travelers coming into the country and our travelers going elsewhere. congressman, l bringing covid.
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let me give you this stat. in the first two weeks of july 135 of the apprehended migrants tested positive for covid that was up 900%. we're not even t the gotaways who come into the country and disappear. border and this was several months ago and covid patients were coming through then. you can't say on one hand you should wear masks and on the other hand you're letting people walk into the country. that is one point. the other point here for the most part most people are not wearing the right masks. i think the doctor would agree with me, that you have to wear a n95 mask or better. you can't wear designer masks that match your attire for the day. that is what you see a lot of people doing. with children wearing masks this is another thing as somebody who has three young children. my wife is a school teacher. look, those masks are very
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dirty. the kids don't hardly wear them right. it seems like it will be a lot more of a headache then it will do to stop any virus. so there is, we have seen enoug. i want to make one more point and maybe the doctor will comment on this. why are we not talking about the therapeutics? we know this delta variant is spreading quickly. doesn't look like the hospitalizations will as big of a problem. we have so many therapeutics out there that can be so helpful. i had covid. thank god i had a doctor was on it quickly and knew the therapeutics. he wasn't running around saying lock yourself inside the room. go get a test. wait three days for the test. you have a high fever. you could have a covid. i will put you on steroids, breathing treatment, like
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hydroxychloroquine, those are also working. so seems to me if the white house really wanted to do asking, this is what i tell my constituents all the time. talk to your doctor. if you think you have any sign of covid or anything else, treat it quickly with therapeutics that have been approved for many, many years. jackie: it's a good point, dr. siegel i will let you respond to that because 15 months into this pandemic not only do we have vaccines that people are here even with the delta variant. so why aren't they taking the responsibility to go get a shot in the arm? >> first of all it's a matter of choice, not a matter of super imposition of big government. secondly i agree with everything the congressman just said. covid pouring across the southern border. people wearing dirty masks thinking they're protecting themselves with chin riders or below their nose. those hardly work at all. i agree with everything he is saying. in terms of therapeutics there
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is a couple big ones in hydroxychloroquine and zinc. we have to zero in on the patient on prevention. i still think the best thing we have in our arsenal. jackie: take that one step further, congressman, where would you stand if the administration were to say that all of sudden it would mandate federal employees or other institutions they must be vaccinated to return to work? how will that go down because that is part of the conversation that appears to be behind the scenes at the moment? >> look if we're ever going to any type of mandatory vaccination it needs to follow the same process that we followed in this country for many, many decades. look, i agree with the doctor. i think the vaccines it is very important to get the vaccine especially if you're older. i think it is critical but in terms of the something that hasn't been through the whole process yet, you can understand
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why some people question it and there is also the issue if you already had covid do you really need to get a vaccine? there are lots of questions out there. so the idea of federal agents running around door-to-door giving people shots in the arm, some type of mandatory program, we're a long way from there and i think the american public will push back on that as will many states. you watch. many states will not abide by this new mask mandate. they will continue to do like they have been doing throughout the pandemic. jackie: gentlemen, we will have leave it there. final point, dr. siegel real quick. >> quick point he made a really good point you come to somebody you ask them, what are your fears? what are your concerns? why do you want the shot or not want the shot? you don't superimpose something or force anybody to do anything in this country. i agree with that. jackie: gentlemen thank you very much. dr. marc siegel, congressman nunez, great to see you this weekend. meantime crime is on the rise.
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♪. >> we are arresting violent offenders. the courts are releasing these people back into the community. that should be a headline in this city and it's not. ask what the courts can do different rather than release violent people back into these communities to create an environment of lawlessness. jackie: that is chicago's top cop on the problem in his city. the courts releasing violent offenders amid a surge in crime. something we're hearing from other big cities where crime is rising like washington, d.c. we have former attorney general matthew whitaker. great to see you tonight. >> good to see you, jackie. jackie: you heard the sound bite. there is a lot of frustration in the city, when it comes to the police chief, trying to do their jobs. his issue is with the courts.
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the courts don't make the law. we follow the rule of law. it is lawmakers that are setting those parameters. that is really what we need to address? >> there is a lot of people passing the buck here. the bottom line is that the elected to politicians need to pass laws enforced by the police and the courts and what you have in chicago as the chief points out is culture of lawlessness where the courts are following the law, letting out violent criminals, not holding them prior to trial or detaining them after they're arrested. seeing the same thing in new york city with no cash bail reforms. this is really, you know, i think a challenge we face as a society is, we need to make sure that the worst, the most violent second quarter -- sociopaths don't come on the streets to continue a wave of crime. these major cities need to get serious, the politicians especially elected to by the
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people so the families and their children can play in the front lawns and that they are forced to keep the violent people off the streets. jackie: last week you recall a shooting outside after restaurant in an upscale area of washington, d.c., the police chief there said the courts are letting the violent criminals back on the streets making communities unsafe. he talked about how he didn't want his wife to walk around in certain neighborhoods. this is really, really difficult for the law-abiding tax paying citizens that are walking on the street dealing with the crime, i can attest what is happening here in new york city. it is really frustrating. >> it is and this is you know, right now it's a major city problem. i think the 20 largest cities where you're seeing this escalation in violent crime but it is not going to be limited to that. if we don't get serious about law and order agenda, then you're going to see this spread throughout the country, jackie. i really think it is basic blocking and tackling of law
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♪. jackie: welcome back, everybody, trying to keep a infrastructure package alive. a gop source telling our own hillary vaughn that a global offer talked about yesterday was ripped up by republicans who said no deal but negotiators seem to be back at it today. now there is some last minute haggling between the two sides over some sticky issues. among them how much money for highways versus public transit. prevailing wages tried to infrastructure projects which critics argue makes the project more expensive and differences over broadband policy as well. there are some republicans who are very prickly about speaker pelosi's promise to hold any
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hard infrastructure deal hostage until a $3.5 trillion human infrastructure package gets passed with it. senator barrasso said this afternoon that pelosi is turning the good faith negotiations into a hijacking. joining me house budget appropriations committee member congressman ben cline. congressman, good evening to you. first time i think pelosi and republicans on the same side albeit for different reasons of course but let me ask you this, when it comes to this deal we're talking about an environment where we have runaway inflation. we have spent a lot already to battle the pandemic and you have many americans saying do we need to spend this much more? >> not only is nancy pelosi driving this economy over the cliff this appropriations bill we're considering today is just punching the gas pedal. we have one trillion dollars, and i won't put my pinky finger up to my mouth when i say it, we
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have one trillion dollars in unspent covid money. she wants to raise taxes just on seven of the 12 appropriations bills by 20%. that is not sustainable. it is not a matter of picking winners and losers, everything loses in this situation is specially our kids and grandkids. jackie: the trillion dollars you're talking about is the actual infrastructure, what the republicans are on board with. what nancy pelosi wants the 3 1/2 trillion is the human infrastructure or argue not infrastructure at all? >> right. nancy pelosi's version of infrastructure is the green new deal where one out of every two dollars in her proposal goes too green new deal dollars where districts like mine in virginia get left out. the two trillion dollar plan would take covid money, shift it over to infrastructure, by infrastructure we're talking about roads and bridges. that is bipartisan deal in the
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senate. nancy pelosi wants nothing to do with bipartisanship. it is her way or the highway and she wants green new deal priorities and that is out of question. jackie: does the far left have a too much power? "wall street journal" article says a socialist chairs the budget committee. consider how far the democratic party moved left, senate budget committee bernie sanders, 3 1/2 trillion dollar budget largest in american history, is now pragmatic because mr. sanders originally proposed $6 trillion in spending. mr. sanders wants permanent tax hikes to pay for a temporary spending binge. as always the real bill comes due later. and our children, congressman will have to pay the consequences. >> when you have a debt as high as we have now, approaching
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$30 trillion. when you have annual deficits approaching a trillion dollars a year we can't afford the free college, free health care, free everything that bernie sanders wants to provide because we know it is not free. the socialists including bernie sanders don't know that it is not free. they think it is free because it is always someone else's money. what did margaret thatcher famously say? socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money to spend. jackie: that's right. >> it is not great. it's a disasterous plan. it deserves to fail along with the rest of socialist agenda. jackie: talk about inflation a little bit. that is the conversation being had at the kitchen table. everyone is feeling it. then they said it would be transitory. saying hold out until the end of the year. senator thom tillis says inflation is here to stay. listen to this. >> i'm afraid a lot of them are here to stay. we have to keep in mind this spending spree started back in january when they passed a 1 . 9 trillion-dollar package
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without any republican votes. the reason i'm part of so-called g20 trying to negotiate a infrastructure bill, get this, really infrastructure. roads, bridges, internet, high speed broadband. these are things i believe we can justify. not a 3 trillion or four 1/2 trillion dollar price tag i see we'll forget transitory but we're dealing with inflation for some time to come. jackie: congressman, really quick, that is a very scary proposition for the average american in this country. >> ask any american family, they will talk about rising gas price, rising food prices, rising across the board. inflation results from excess spending. ask any economist. we've had too much spending this year and resulting for higher prices for all americans. jackie: congressman thank you so much for your time. >> thanks. jackie: florida ended the extra $300 in unemployment benefits and some businesses are finally seeing an increase in job applicants but a group of floridians pushing back in court
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to get the added benefits back as the delta variant spreads putting our economic recovery in question. economic strategist mitch roschelle joins us next on "the evening edit." >> 300-dollar check is disincentive for people to work. when we put this program together, i told everybody this is a huge mistake. you need to incentivize people to work, not to stay home. ♪.
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their experience with autism so we don't leave anyone behind. join us today. go to sparkforautism dot org. jackie: it is florida ending enhanced unemployment benefits. some businesses seeing applications for much-needed workers. ashley webster in florida for us. good evening, ashley. reporter: good evening, ashley. i'm standing in front of the fenway hotel in swanky dunedin. it is nice here. some people working there, the very low end during the lockdown, seven, seven people managed to keep this plasticking over barely.
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when things started to reopen, we had a hard time finding workers, then as you said on a june 26th, florida and governor ron desantis decided enough was enough, no more $300 a week in extra unemployment benefits. guess what, all the effort to find workers suddenly started to change. listen to the general manager, mickey melendez. take a listen. >> i would see almost an immediate impact especially with the application process seeing the flow through especially email. we saw an uptick. save 40% may not seem like a lot but after the pandemic it is pretty impressive. reporter: basically, jackie, it was instantaneous. if this was fully staffed this hotel you would have 90 employees. now they have 52. yes they're hiring but doing very well, thank you very much but as you mentioned earlier there is a lawsuit. let's not forget in indiana and maryland, similar lawsuits were filed and judges in those states issued an injunction and the
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extra benefits were reinstated. businesses here are really hoping that won't happen. they say since that benefit has gone away, they have seen a lot more workers showing up and filling out those applications. back to you. jackie: ashley webster, thanks so much for that. let's bring in economic strategist, mitch roschelle. mitch, it is clear from state to state. if you remove the benefits people did go back to work indeed. >> 100%. the employers cannot compete with the couch. take away the couch incentive and people go back to work. the real challenge for business owners especially in florida, i spoke to a bunch of business owners small and large in florida, they are competing with each other. one company loses 10 employees because a company poached three employees. that circular fight for employees is driving up wages. the good news if we get more workers in the market because
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they have lost the incentive to stay out of the job market, that hopefully will ease wage pressure. wages are going up as a result. jackie: that is one issue. we're definitely struggling with inflation as a result of everything going on. the original thought was, okay, this is going to be, we'll have to ride it out as a country until labor day when those benefits expire, everybody goes back to work. we have vaccines in place. things are getting better. then you introduce the delta variant. get news from cdc we're going back to institute mask mandates for vaccinated people. you say to yourself you're looking at a fall all of sudden we could have trouble. could we talk about lockdowns again? >> one of the arguments, listen, i've been making the $300 is big disincentive to get back to work. those who don't buy into that, one issue is child care and the other is safety in the work place. now that the caution flag is being waved again about the
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double variant. i think we'll create that other disincentive people are worried about going back to work because they're worry getting sick. the simple solution, is get vaccine. according to the cdc the vaccine is not good enough. i think that will put more pressure own the wage market and put more wage inflation on wages. >> president biden in the townhall talking about the record unemployment benefits contributing to people staying home, he essentially told workers pay more. like this let them eat cake moment that was unbelievable to so many. >> listen, i find this very interesting that elected officials like the president who have never had to make payroll on a weekly basis or run a business don't really understand the dynamics of the workplace. the reality you just can't pay people more if no one is going to pay you more for the end product. we can only push the consumer
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and the supply chain so far with price increases. sooner or later businesses will end up eating some of those wage increases. >> i want to shift gears, talking about the stock market, taking a breather today, but this market has been on fire. part of that story, mitch has been reopening. that we are back on track and things are going to get better. so we talked about about the wage component of this and the employment labor market component of it but what about the rest of the market and the impacts we could see from more restrictions and a tougher time this fall because of more widespread delta variants? >> you know i think, jackie, the market is torn, was it two weeks ago when over the weekend delta variant news came out, it caused the market to sell off, as the week went on buyers came back and market because of great earnings has been doing phenomenally since then. now we have the delta variant back in the news cycle again. i think the market is torn between the fundamentals of potentially closing up again in
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lockdowns which could be a reality. we saw it in los angeles county. and their addiction to stimulus from the fed in printing money. jackie: yes. >> all of that money sloshing around ends up someplace. it ends up in excess savings especially if we lock people down. the market has more capital in it and people buy more stocks. jackie: mitch roschelle, thank you. i miss being in person with you soon. hope that day comebacks soon. >> can't wait, jackie. jackie: up next, senator bill hag getterty joins us as demonstrations continue in the the nation's capital as they ask president biden to help the people in cuba. cuba blames the united states for molotov cocktails thrown at the cuban embassy in paris. keeper it here on "the evening edit." >> we have the ability to help the cubans to communicate with
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♪. jackie: pressure is building on president biden to make a bold move concerning cuba as protesters in washington descended on the white house and cuban embassy yesterday demanding action and chanting, free cuba. will biden go any further than the sanctions he already imposed? here to take it all up foreign relations committee member, senator bill hagerty. great to see you tonight. a lot of people are upset about this and want the administration to act but it doesn't appear to be acting in a meaningful way. >> i'm shocked at the actions by the biden administration. we support freedom. we're the most exceptional nation on the planet. we always supported freedom. i can't imagine why this is difficult situation for the biden administration to step up. they have been oppressed by the
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castro regime for years. this is finally the blossoming of freedom taking place, should be celebrated, supported and be in a different place than we happen to be right now. jackie: protester marching on the cuban embassy yesterday, had this to say to president biden. take a listen. >> at least talk about what is happening. at least say the truth. give a press conference and talk about it. say it! say it! say they're killing people! say it, okay? say they're doing it because they are. i have family back there, my cousins are young, that are 16 and older. they're hiding right now in cuba the because they don't want to be taken. my aunts are crying and praying. >> people are dying in cuba. history of cuba and the united states, no, it is from years, years ago. multiple times cubans help this country. so it is time to return them to safety. jackie: their voices are powerful and heartbreaking, senator? >> they certainly are.
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i think this is what america is seeing. this is where communism and socialism leads. the misery that the cuban people have suffered is fon to the point where they resorted to a swaying like this where there is actually violence in the streets. certainly we don't condone violence but we appreciate the call for freedom. we think maybe the biden administration is having a hard time criticizing this because of all the leftist, socialist policies they are pushing through and plan to push through. jackie: i was going to say, they are no stranger the administration is no stranger to hypocrisy. when it comes to issue it seems like turning a blind eye is the easier way to deal with it. if we really dig into what is happening with cuba right now you really see what happens on under a socialist regime. so many in the country that see the undertones within the law making right now, they worry it will happen to us. >> this is a great case in point. this is a lesson in america. this is where socialism leads.
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this the misery we all know will be the result of socialist policies are allowed to be pushed through. that is why the republican party, why my colleagues are here fighting as hard as we are every day. jackie: speaking of your colleagues senator ted cruz was calling out president biden for his leadership. let's listen to that. >> i call on joe biden to take up the man tell of leadership expected from an american president to speak unequivocally and say, america stands with the people of cuba. the communist regime is evil, it is oppressive, it is illegitimate and it must fall. jackie: but the president, he won't say it. pardon me, senator. >> i know, i president biden will not say it. jackie: yeah. >> that hesitancy i think is extremely troubling to the american people. certainly to my home state of tennessee. we need to stand as a beacon of freedom. again i think the problem, the hesitancy is really seeded deeply in the fact they're pushing socialist policies here
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in america. we need to be talking about this and the american people need to look at this with their eyes wide open. jackie: it is interesting. i look at other regimes around the world that are oppressive. you think about what is happening in iran right now. you think about what is happening in china right now. cuba also. part of the strategy is to, you know, open press people by keeping them silent. by not giving them access to information and communication techniques with the outside world. we're talking about the internet here. we're talking about the ability to show us what is happening on the ground there. that oppressiveness, that silence is what keeps people under the control of these regimes. nobody is doing anything about this in cuba when here in the united states we could help them with their internet access. >> we absolutely could. i was talking with two of my colleagues right before i came on about ways we can work with the private sector, about ways the united states could be supportive in terms of turning back on internet access. allowing the cuban public to see
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what's happening and allow the rest of the world to see what is happening in cuba. jackie: we'll keep an eye on this story. thank you very much for your time, senator. good evening. the border crisis deepens. i.c.e. has nabbed 300 illegal immigrant section offenders since june -- sex offenders. they are deporting families but is this too little it h too late? laura reis is next. >> i have talked to so many border agents not one agent haste told me they don't think the wall is a good thing. ♪ don't you agree? ♪ ♪ don't you agree? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ (struggling vehicle sounds) think premium can't be capable? think again.
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of staff laura reese, let's start with a 21-point plan some are saying this is too little too late it's the administration's way of saying were doing something but they're not really doing much. >> it's a repackaging of what they have been talking about since campaign and part of that includes seeking amnesty for the many millions of illegal aliens who are here currently in the country. which americans simply do not want, congress now is seeking a trick to use a reconciliation tactic to pass amnesty when they can't get 60 votes they are trying to get it through to 51 votes and it should be voted down. jackie: were talking about water having conversation about infrastructure infrastructure my textbook definition would be finishing the wall that is not
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something were going to do, were talking about human infrastructure which really doesn't have a place in this conversation it could be a separate conversation. >> in the 21-point plan the biden administration says the border wall is needless, i would encourage them to talk to the border patrol agents who have repeatedly asked for the wall and that it be completed. calling it needless is ignoring the agents on the ground and who have asked for that infrastructure for many years in the border wall really should be completed. jackie: i want to talk about what's actually going on down there we tried to shine a light on the story by sending our reporters, we have some tweets i want to share with you one tweet coming from brian hastings saying the searing hot summer claims another life this morning a migrants journey fatally ended on a vast ranch in south today, it causes property damage for south texas land owner all while the usb b agents apprehend close
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to 6000 migrants this weekend alone. we are talking about a system that is stressed we are talking about dangerous conditions not just for the americans that are fighting this for us right now but for the folks who are trying to cross at this point it is not healthy for anybody. >> no it isn't, this is beyond crisis, chaos and it endangers lives the agents in the migrants themselves, this administration continues to encourage more to come this is not seasonal, normally numbers go down due to the heat and their continuing to historic numbers it's a humanitarian crisis, the biden the administration needs to not only changes messaging but also its policies and start enforcing the law to show that there are consequences and people will not get into the u.s. and not be committed to stay here otherwise they will continue to come and endanger their own lives. jackie: you made a previous
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comment you said americans don't want illegals here, yes we have immigration system and we want people to come to the country lawfully but we don't want them crossing illegally i agree with you when i say some americans feel that way as well but there's other americans as karl rove pointed out, who believe that we really should have a system with open borders and we have no right at all to deny access, what do you say that. >> were a sovereign nation like every other country on earth, would that we deserve and have a right to have an orderly lawful immigration system in the u.s. continues to provide the most generous immigration system in the world we get green cards for over 1 million people each year so we need members in congress, the biden administration, everyone to encourage people to use our generous lawful immigration system and not to come here unlawfully. jackie: kamala harris has been tested handling the crisis of
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the border and many people are giving her an f for ignoring the problem, where did she go from here. >> good question she's traveled to central america, she made a very last-minute trip down till el paso and it has been crickets from her since then. it seems to be form over substance this administration shows that they're not serious about securing our border or enforcing our laws. >> in the last 15 seconds we talk about drug smuggling across the border into huge problem year to date more than 62000 pounds of cocaine have been seized, were not at the end of the year just yet that numbering is staggering. >> that number is staggering americans will die from these drugs, hominy americans need to die before this administration is going to lift a finger and change the border policy to shut down the smuggling of the drugs in the migrants. jackie: when it came to president trump he was very passionate about the border but
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the drug reason was a top priority he talked about all the time. lora ries i appreciate your time, a sensitive topic but we appreciate you coming on to give us insight. jackie: i am jackie deangelis and for elizabeth macdonald, you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that doe for us, we thank you for watching and we wish you a good evening. ♪ ♪ ♪. larry: hello everyone, welcome back to "kudlow", i am larry kudlow. big news out from the cdc regarding the delta variant, let me start out with president biden statement, by following the science and by doing our part by getting vaccinated america can be covid. in meantime more vaccinations a mask wording in the areas most impacted by the delta variant will enable us to avoid the
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