♪ larry: again, i say, the reconciliation b larry: again i say, the recreate a conciliation billde must be undefeated we do not immerse him as we doot need more taxes, we do not need to transform america's economic system or its way of life. ♪ ♪ >> near governor andrew cuomo has not resigned yet. but his legal and political problems are piling up like winter snow in upstate new york. and now an accuser has spoken saying what he did to her was a crime. i am cap tims and per candidate for the cuomo development seven coming in fast the last few days. his top aide has now equipped by the state assembly is started discussing impeachment hearings. there is a report was to cut a deal to avoid being impeached

and britney, who had only known as executive assistant number one comic told cbs which she claims the love god did to her. >> they were not hugs that he would give his mother or his brother. these were hugs with the intention of getting personal sexual satisfaction may be to him. that he thought this was normal. but to me and the other women that he did this to her, it was not normal. kat: went on to give the reason she finally came forward publicly. >> he almost has the smirk that he thanks he is untouchable. that was the tipping point. i broke down i said he is lying. i felt like he was personally saying it to me. kat: cuomo himself is been unrepentant. here's the problem for him at least, he has acclaimed and

none of this happened. but, he also claims he touches and gives us people all the time because he is italian. with all due respect to governor, you cannot have it both ways. so is cuomo done? and if so what happens next? here with me not near republican congressman and candidate for new york's governor race congressman lee. still no resignation which is shocking for a normal person pretty savagely not a normal person. now he's trying to strike a deal howdy see this ending up? >> i think the assembly has to impeach and remove him. we all know the governor should resign. it's making it very clear he won't. what the secretary to the governor melissa resigning the walls are clearly closing in around him now. at the end of the day if he wants to figure out how to miracle himself onto the democratic line of november 8,

2022, i don't see that pathway. the voters will have to take care of it themselves when they get there say next year. but from what we are seeing, but we are curing right now it's democratic colleagues in the state legislature they are done with him and they're ready to move forward for you brought out some of the defenses are he says it's okay he is italian. cuomo said it's okay because he is 63, his lawyer went after that executive assistant saying governor cuomo barely even knows her. and then there was the cheese and cracker defensive during that press conference when they said that was only given out on the first floor. it could not have possibly taken place. there's a lot of bizarre defenses and excuses were he looks more guilty as each day goes by as he and his attorneys keep digging bring. kat: i am married to an italian if he did that to any

other women hi would impeach him out of my house so fast. given talking very openly about melissa and how horrible she has made things saying us top aide she made the environment more toxic. she allowed this harassment to happen. what you think about her resignation happening last night and her timing of it? what is it say about things moving forward? >> i don't see how she's possibly able to distance yourself from this. she could try. i do not know whether she is cooperating with investigators herself, trying to cut a deal for herself. she might have seen something that she did not like that was a breaking point for her. but what i have seen firsthand is a very high tolerance for this governor's character and approached bullying, harassing, abusing. she was that left-hand person who did a lot of the

bareknuckle brawling with media, state legislatures, others. i think it was a real disservice she was brought to state government in the first place. i don't feel bad for her one bit. she did not just tolerate it she promoted a lot of andrew cuomo's biggest flaws. kat: a lot of these women coming forward any sin because no one believed me he had more power than i did. what kind of guy is that? >> britney this executive assistant who came forward and others stated one of the reasons they did not want to come forward is because they were afraid they would lose their job. people would specifically reference melissa. kat: thank you so much congressman for joining me. >> you got it, thank you kat. kat: at all that was not enough or governor cuomo to be in hot water over, how about

this, cuomo aids signed his name for him on a 2019 harassment training form according to the same report released by the new york attorney general leticia james last week. the aide admitted in her sworn testimony she did in fact sign his form for him. but claim the governor did review the material first. you are right. in 2018 the governor signed a law that all employers in the state have to train employees on workplace harassment issues. clearly he did not take his own blog very seriously. so, what more needs to come out before the governor resigns? let's meet tonight party panel. former george w. bush presidential writer and american majority ceo that ryan, serve america former state department deputy spokesperson and fox new contributor marie harf. corsi correspondent for economic education brad,

thanks wes and ned the thing about cuomo he seemed to be wanting to do the thing where he waits at the media cycle. but new stuff keeps coming out all the time with all the things this guy was doing. what about this biggest thing having someone else sign his name on the harassment training? >> it's clear cuomo felt the rules apply to everyone else but not himself. what we are seeing the state attorney general leticia james, the rules are going to apply to you. this is the real problem, cat. he's got really powerful figures inside his own party determined to take them out. really, first of all he is a horrible human being, he is a creep. what someone wants to be the new governor of new york it's either attorney general james, it might be de blasio. this is an internal party take out. they have decided cuomo is now wildly inconvenient. the giving him evidence and the rope to take him out.

i will note this, cats, you know this is a hit job because someone wants to be governor because they don't want to the rest home a policy that cuomo used to kill over 15000 elderly because that might be damaging to other governors like whitman, newsom and murphy. it's a job someone is trying to be governor wanted to cuomo out. kat: ned mentioned have not wanted to follow his own rules. he himself made the law structure that sexual harassment did not need to be pervasive or serious in order to be illegal. why would this guy do that if he was doing all of this? >> katz, that's part of what makes this story so gross and so disappointing. this is a public figure who pledged to support women. as you mentioned he put in place regulations that help women and help survivors. he is not someone who had not taken on that issue, that is frustrating. in terms of what happens next, kathie is the lieutenant governor preachy action is not

been close to governor cuomo. if he is impeached or if she resigned she would become i think the first female governor of new york. she is very well respected a longtime public servants. while there are obviously politics at play here a lot of people hope he has a shred of dignity left and resigned. because an impeachment process will be very dirty, very damaging especially for his family. i don't know why he would want to put them to that, kat. kat: i don't know why he has not resigned yet. he's a special kind of narcissistic in my mind. he's clearly do not take the sexual harassment training. there are corroborative reports of him doing i don't think an adult man needs the training to know these things are very, very not okay. >> you shouldn't i remember in high school we all sign our name to the group projects, right it was a group project but really the one kid did it all. you should not apply that logic to sexual harassment

training for the governor of new york. you should not need to sexual harassment training to not be a creep and treat women under your administration like this. it is mind-boggling to me. is it me or our politicians the worst people? the creep to normal person ratio in politics way out of whack with everyday life. people still think these people can solve all of our problems it boggles the mind. kat: is truly not mind boggling for this guy said so much control over my life for the past however many months he does not follow basic rules of decency apparently. >> this is the thing that shameful about a lot of politicians for they want to play the roast everybody else but somehow think it's a more of a series of suggestions for themselves. that's a real problem we have this system and the country were rules for the but not for me. this is what were saying not only democrats but i would say republicans that's not healthy for the country.

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contributor jonathan hoenig. hello. >> great to be with you catch detroit a why don't we just go to zillion at this point. two or 3 trillion is there any end to this spending? it's almost eye-popping. and kat, if government spending created wealth at that actually work would be chilling in germany right now. but that doesn't work that's exactly biden is doing but more and spending once again. >> absolutely look. the absurdity we cannot even figure out how to open the pre-case in many places. there is a lot of emotional appeals of the argument of spending. we have this crisis that we need recoveries were going to throw money at it. what you say to people? they make that argument quite successfully. >> president biden is making it. look at president obama and the record.

kat, you are too young to remember this but there's a stimulus program, but we got was the slowest recovery in the modern era. it's easy to understand why. there's not a pool of money the government has an kyndell out straight all that money is spent it's borrowed or printed. it's has very disastrous for our economy. that's exactly we are seeing now, cap it's the devaluing station of a dollar whether it's inflation mall investment in that spending programs you talk about for this is one of terrible long-term consequences on the economy in all of our lives. kat: is a great point you bring up for this administration the beat no natural impact the makes in the lesson $40000 a year. i don't see it that way. i assume you realize that is not the case. >> a lot of the cost, they are sneaky it is hidden. that's exactly what inflation is. inflation is running at a 13 year high.

as i say $100 ain't what it used to be a price because the government spending. the biggest spending is not as a so that were losing money or quality of life is going up but cap, it is about control. he who writes the checks did a tap into everything. energy comment transports when you have terrible negative along term effects on all of our lives. look, is there really any such thing as fiscally conservative politician anymore? as is certainly not right. >> i think that's it. there is a sense if there is no consequence you contacts, you can borrow money but if the politicians breed there is no such thing as a free lunch. the more they spend less lunch were going to have. kat: is there any hope at this point do you think? be honest requesters always hope for america, kat. we're still the most

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kat: the new delta variant uncovered during a monkey wrench into plans to reopen everything from restaurants to

schools. the big question on the mind of every parent right now, wilt my kid be able to go back to school in person this fall? and if so, will they need a mass? the rights of the super contagious delta variant is prompted a back-to-school scramble to reconsider masco policies. more and more schools issuing these mandates. but now some experts are saying masks are doing more harm than good bread fox news medical contributor marty had this essay earlier. >> people are saying i'm okay with my kid wearing a mask to make sure they get in person but that's a reasonable argument but it's not a medical argument. we have assumed a zero harm with masks for the reality is that's not true. it's a matter of months or weeks. talk about coming on two years now with kids being masked they are losing the connection. impact development things we

have to consider. they're not denied masks not one 100% harmless. >> even doctor fauci said he hopes making a young kids work masks will have a net map on jet lasting impact. how can we clear up the confusion and get them back in the confusion. medical director fox news contributor, doctor janette. >> hey cap. kat: of the delta variant being so contagious, how do you weigh that with the reopening in person schools? people say were not so sure about that. >> i think under the circumstance you would keep schools closed and i agree with doctor makary, some have some negative impacts as far as speech impediments,

difficulties in breathing, that helps with social development growth and development that we have to look at the risk versus the benefit. we also have to look at what's going on in your community. if you're at a community we are high level of covid if you're in louisiana, florida, the pediatric wards are full you might want to take that extra precaution. is not just about masks. first of all we need to put the focus on the older population, adults. if we can get her adults vaccinated that is secondarily will protect our children. and also in schools we want to make sure we have good air filtration, ventilation. want to make sure washing her hands and not in crowded classrooms for it i think it's a combination of the protected measures. yes absolutely without a doubt kids need to be back in the classroom for in person learning no matter what's going on in the community. kat: i completely agree per think there could be a lot of issues with kids work masks and their formative years for an extended period of time because so much is communicated with expressions but i also have my doubts and

i don't have kids but i've met some of them but i have my doubts kids particularly young children are going to be able to use the mask properly throughout the entire day, for it to have any benefit at all. >> here's the thing. and hoping it's temporary until we can get to this delta surge we are seeing. we have tons of data that tells us the use of masks in all age groups can help reduce the spread and transmission. one of the important things we need to remember it's not just a matter of kids don't need masks because they really get sick, they can still spread the virus print and remember, kat, when the virus spreads from person to person it replicates it, it mutates against of the opportunity to mutate. so we have to keep that in mind it's in addition to keeping our kids safe in the community safe. but again, in certain parts of the country were seeing huge outbreaks among the children. about 24% positivity rates.

i see being taken of my kids right now pretty what to do everything we can to keep them safe. but we went to make sure they have proper growth and development and are learning in school at the same time. we've got to find that fine balance of safety. be sick some people are concerned about getting vaccinated. i have been today myself. if you had people come to you with concerns about vaccines and when you say to people who have those concerns? >> yes, i do. i have patients that come in, some tell me they want to wait until it's fully fda approved. hopefully next month pfizer will be approved for their word about side effects from it kindly and gently educate and remind them of over 350 million americans have been successfully vaccinated. and the majority of those who are hospitalized and have died from covid, art most recently unvaccinated. i explained the risk, the benefit were able to change their mind the benefits will

outweigh the risk. many patients will ask where i can go and get my vaccine? it's very heartening when i hear that our number one goal is to keep our community, keep our patients safe, healthy, alive and out of the hospital. kat: i would encourage everyone if you've not been vaccinated talk to your dr. about it. kat: looks like president obama is not all that worried about covid especially after his scale down 60th birthday bash this week and recheck out these pictures from the daily mail in martha's vineyard on saturday some even showed up in private jets. but compare this to the sturgis motorcycle rally in south dakota this weekend. grouchy fauci said he's worried about the potential super spreader, watch. >> i am very concerned, chuck, that we are going to see another surge related to that rally.

i mean to me it is understandable that people want to do the kinds of things they want to do. you are ultimately going to be able to do that in the future. let's get this pandemic under control before we start acting like nothing is going on. i mean something bad is going on. kat: no mention of obama's particle, hypocrisy much? i am all about parties and it cannot only be for the elites for the panel is back, ned ryun, marie harf, and brad polumba. i am not anything if i am not pro party. if he wants to throw his birthdate rager. he should throw his birthdate rager. why is he so worried and said where all vexed, we are ready to party why not handle it that way? there's nothing in theory wrong about anything obama has

done or the people who attended the party have done. i'm of the mind i took the vaccine you took the vaccine we should go about our normal life. if anyone who does not take the vaccine that's a risk they have accepted. the elite class has been critical this whole time, whether it's a marie bowser who passed a indoor mask mandate yet again and violated. her countless politicians are hypocrites broken their own orders across the country. it shows you the mentality find big government bureaucrats for the big people play by the rules will they enjoy the parties it's a disgrace. kat: is their hypocrisy with what fauci said as her some reason the sturgis motorcycle rally is horrible concerning doom. i can hear most horror movie music playing for these folks is there some reason to that? >> it shows a fallacy is deeply ignorant as usual. lassiter's 462,000 attendees at the sturgis rally and .008 actually contracted covid.

it was not a super spreader event rate again found cheat makes the stuff up. he is a grasping for relevance. hopefully more and more of the american people stop listening to him. because everything that comes out of his mouth you have to take into real question as to whether really knows what he's talking about. kat: again i am pro party. if you're vaccinated outside, you dance, you live your life you celebrate. do you think former president obama missed may be an opportunity here to say hey look, i am doing this safely. things have changed that is scaled back those are not all your close friends. nobody has time for that many close friends which again is charlie find you think that's a missed opportunity? >> he is the former president pretty think he has a lot of friends. he played by the rules when practicing every politician was playing by the rules president obama did prince my understanding this event was outdoors.

people had to be vaccinated to come to this event. that's very different than hundreds of thousands of people and sturgis who i would venture to say from the vaccination rate of the area are not. >> there's no vaccinated of the blood bath now that covid is much more contagious situation with covid for delta can spread much more easily. think everyone should focus on getting vaccinated protecting their families. the biggest story in the country is not president biden have in a small birthday party because he turned 60. >> first of all. kat: i consistently have said i am pro obama birthday party. do you obama. that is a small birthday party you just made me feel very depressed about every party that i have ever been too. those must be depressing. >> next year for your birthday will be huge.

>> may be by the time i am 60 after i am president. meanwhile do you know who is fed up with covid mandates customer kentucky republican rand paul. he went on a three minute rant against covid rules going as far as to say we don't need to follow them, watch. >> 's time for us to resist they cannot arrest all of us. they cannot keep all of your kids home from school but they cannot keep every government building closed. we do not have to accept the mandates, lockdowns and harmful policies of the petty tyrants and bureaucrats. we can simply say no not again. >> this is as vaccine mandates are ramping up for the pentagon announcing it will require military members to get covid job starting next month. what does this say about liberty right now? marie am going to go out on a limb here and say you might

have some slight disagreement with what senator paul had to say. [laughter] >> kentucky has seen a huge surge in cases. i will never understand with the majority of doctors agree that we should get vaccinated and beat we should try to protect ourselves because the delta variant with the mask sometime, white people like rand paul think this is some second coming of hitler. it is bizarre, it is offensive to me. they really need to focus on keeping their state safe. that is why the military for example it you mention it makes people in the military get a whole host of vaccines, is going to include covid in that. we have to keep our people safe for the longer we go out without getting this under control at the worse this is going to be for everyone. and rand paul needs to focus on his own state's health. kat: and ned, here's the thing, i got vaccinated i think it's great. i encourage people to talk to the doctor by getting vaccinated. is there a difference between that and the government

mandate quest. >> absolute this has to be a personal choice in which people or choose not too. the whole premise of all of this, kat, this is the black plague we were all going to die in an apocalypse. when in fact according to the numbers in the cdc we know based off a years plus worth of evidence that ages zero -- 70 having 99.875% chances of survivability. we know 94% of the death from covid people had serious comorbidities. at some point we have to actually decide to be want to be free, are we going to live with government coming out the new variant every couple of months? are we going to go to vaccine passports? at some point we have mandated vaccine and vaccine passports we ceased to be a free people. at some point we have to say enough is enough let's look at the numbers, let's look at the science combo took of the facts. i think rand paul is aptly correct but we as the american people have to make a choice. are we going to live in fear

from something that's not nearly as deadly as we thought a year plus ago. or are we going to be free? >> that's not true. going to get brad in your really quickly. look, what you are talking about now it seems if you could just back in time three years ago and you see we are on the show talk about whether or not the government should be able to tell businesses, private businesses what medical documents they have to require in order to allow patrons into their building, but which you've thought about that? >> i would've thought it was crazy but let me say first and foremost iran paul's been standing for people's liberty this whole time. inject every word of that rant into my veins. we'll every other politician was closing under businesses, closing on your schools, they were telling you what you could and couldn't do. they're telling you what you could use your own body and he said no comment liberty let's people choose but everybody's had the opportunity to get the vaccine that what once. covid is serious, people

should get vaccinated. we are adults we should make our own decisions and nobody, nobody should fault rand paul for advocating just that. he is been consistent this hot entire time. kat: there is a huge difference between saying no one should get them and everyone making their own choice. it is important and i definitely agree with that it is important price speak about it whenever i can. who knows what they'll start requiring next if we let this slightest of its no-bid deals quite creepy. the panel returns in a bit but coming up the runaway democrats who fled texas on a fear packed plane are now suing governor greg abbott and you will not believe why. trust me it is ridiculous. jimmy fail it is live in studio to discuss these democratic dumb dumb's next.

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a party breasts and a legend spread covid across the capitol but now they are suing a texas governor grant unchecked greg abbott over discomfort and embarrassment. yes they are embarrassing but not because of governor abbott. but in a win for the whiners a district judge in texas i did order temporarily preventing the governor from erupting on the way home. if i sue everyone for my own embarrassing behavior i would be richer than jeff a basis and so my next guest committee and host of fox across america on fox news radio, jimmy

failla. >> sweet. kat: i did know suing for being embarrassed or embarrassment was a thing. i think if i could do that the people i could sue the people would sue me i would break even probably i don't know what your thoughts question at. >> talk embarrassment look at my wardrobe alone. kat: ekstrom going to sue you. >> any lawyers that they're going to sue you for. >> these people are such losers. i don't buy that they are capable of feeling shame. because if they were you don't take that trip. he felt get on a private jet with a case of miller light in compare yourself to frederick douglass were the only thing they have in common with frederick douglass as he didn't wear a mask when he traveled either that is the only parallel. this is embarrassing. you know how this trip endemic gas at the country over a law that isn't really restricting voter apps internet access. they fell on their face and got covid part at that point you must take the l and go away. they keep going. kat: even when i take pictures

for integral bible remove the alcohol out of the shot simply like no she is not boozing. and they don't and i am not even a lawmaker. >> i just love you dial it down to alcohol. that is something else. kat: beer certainly, light beer. [laughter] >> that's even more embarrassing. you call yourself texans? how about some type of longer, own it. but they did not do that. and now they're sad because you're going to arrest us bisquick one of the reasons is they miss their families, as far as i understand it they left their families. >> nobody told you to go. that's number one. number two are in like portugal right now hanging out. they don't care. the lawsuit does not specifically explain how they were ashamed or embarrassed as much as they felt ashamed and embarrassed. this is another attempt at

attention. we are living in the death of shame for this should be embarrassing to you for this is embarrassing to me but it's not embarrassing to them of their on their phones had the really doing something here. >> on second thought if this means you can drink miller light and you are a civil rights icon, where is my nobel peace prize? [laughter] >> you really are. the rosa parks of cable news. kat: truly. >> the only point i'll make on their behalf as it turns out flying private is probably safer than flying commercial given the fights these days we not worry about catching covid you're worried about catching a roundhouse right to the throat spray getting past that these people are losers. >> or actual defense was they were nonrefundable tickets. [laughter] they were nonrefundable tickets for. >> like all the civil rights of their day. first there is i have a dream and announce i have a ticket. kat: absolutely.

so you are saying in the courts of jimmy you don't think they have a case here? >> they should not have a case for the only case they had as they drink it on the bus. kat: absolutely. i don't understand this thing part of got to get better at suing people. [laughter] i feel like they're all these lawsuits all the time. i don't really know how to sue. everyone seems quite comfortable with suing for. >> is a thing now. so who is your suing guy your lawyer? >> is probably a group on at this point. >> absolutely, later let's make it list later forever were going start will start with each other. thank you jimmy. coming up a crime for search in big cities across the country. what will curb the out-of-control violence and will dems finally quit their call to defend the police for call to defend the police for the panel returns to debate,

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kat: a new low for the violence in chicago after a police officer was shot dead itty traffic stop. 29-year-old officer french was murdered on saturday night. she just returned from maternity leave two weeks ago. another officer at the scene was also shot and is still

hospitalized fighting for his life. the french had been on the force for four years and was on the department's community safety team. this comes as an increase in violent crime is hitting in many cities across the u.s. while the flags are at half staff in chicago will this serve as a wake-up call for those trying to defund police department's across the country? the panel has returned, ned, marie, brad. ned this is absolutely heartbreaking. what do you think could be done about that you have any hope the situation is going to improve? >> no i think it's going to have to get worse before it improve. people are going to have to look at those running the cities i was eight democrats and realize either they have to have the adults show up again or it's going to continue to get worse. the only way they're going to be able to do that is for there to be primaries and the reasonable democrats, if there are any left to take power again and say we cannot defund police for there's a need for law and order there is a need

for robust police force for before you have adults show up i think it's going to get worse. kat: and marie think about democratic leadership alert light but did go to the hospital officers there turned their backs on her. what do you say about that? >> look at joe biden is the leader of the party he does not support defining police he it is proposed a of ways to do that. kat: what about lori lightfoot? >> look, lori lightfoot is confronting a very difficult situation and chicago. violent crime is tragically up, cap it both in cities that have produced a funny but also places that have increased the funding or kept it stable. i don't think funding to the police is the whole answer to why violent crime is up. we should not think that it is. but again the democratic party leadership has been very clear starting at the top they actually want to fund the

police to give them more resources. and ultimately to make sure our committees are safe. joe and his team notices big problem. kat: now that has become a problem loosing the consequences or change their tune a little different than the weather sank last summer. some are still coming, brad you'd like me have some libertarian sense of ability. i'm all about accountability for law enforcement trade that is so much different that what we have been seeing this last summer. >> yes, absolutely. for me this is not a red or blue thing. this is an important reminder while i support criminal justice reform we can have reasonable conversations about all of that. we do a lot of over policing of things that should not be crimes in this country. but for all of that is second to the fact that across the country men and women in the police put their lives on the line to protect us for no matter red or blue we should all be grateful for that. kat: and then why is it such a

contentious issue? we can all agree we do not want to get shot. >> exactly, this is not a contentious issue, cat. it should be we want law and order, we want peace and prosperity in our communities. and lest we have let far left just take over city councils and mayors office to increase their crazy, twisted, demented worldview which there is no police force if they have their way. i think it's a real shame. as you start to see the urban areas dk and evolve into more of violence, only way you get these people to lose a political power. kat: and marie do think there some louder voices in the party to still say defund the police and the people have shifted. you think that is a problem for democrats the fact is voices are getting attention? >> they are getting attention because the right ones take political advantage of it. the bottom line is the democratic party do not want

too. >> is not left or right. >> can i finish please. kat: but i have seen the fact that republicans on the right have been talking about this for a while. and is accused of being a talking point and now it's very real. very real. ned, marie, brad were going to that spin class was brutal. well, you can try using the buick's massaging seat.

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