susan rice through admiral haynes and anthony blinken, that is quite a revelation, if we want to see some resignations who is going to resign after all of this. it is been quite a show we've had president trump in a market rally and my time is up, neil it is now yours. neil: does anyone think it's president biden, i don't know, whatever, thank you very much we are following all the developments post leaving afghanistan, we have you covered from every angle jennifer griffin at the pentagon and edward lawrence at the white house and in germany ashley webster were a good many of those planes make their first stop as they go through a pretty involved vetting process, let's go to jennifer griffin at the pentagon were loading the number of americans who are still left

behind and whether that is their decision or forced on them and they cannot leave, what are we hearing on this front? >> it is interesting those americans if the cup located picture summer babies who have american passports and born to green card holders who came to the united states and gave birth to the children and have lived in afghanistan all of their lives, some are elderly afghans who wanted to stay in their village and got to cobble too late and many wanted to bring a dozen or so family members who were not americans and the taliban would stop them at checkpoints because they did not want afghans leaving the country it's a complicated picture of who they are but the state department is trying to work through that right now. the last playing carrying u.s. troops took off from kabul 3:29 p.m. eastern yesterday one minute after under before midnight local time august 31

deadline the top general overseeing the operation admitted some american afghans were left behind. >> there's a lot of heartbreak associated with this departure we did not get everybody out that we wanted to get out but if we would've stayed another ten days we would've gotten everybody out that we want to get out and there still would've been people disappointed with them. >> chris donahue commanding the 82nd airborne division the last american soldier to leave afghanistan after nearly 20 years this photo is now as iconic of the last soviet general to leave afghanistan three decades ago, general donna who was working on the pentagon and 9/11 as a aid to the chairman of the joint chief of the time he made his first appointment to afghanistan in 2002, this was his fourth deployment, he led a delta squadron a decade ago and head of special operation forces last year, last night secretary of state anthony blinken explained to some of

these american citizens who have been left behind are. >> they are longtime residents of afghanistan who have american passports and are trying to determine whether or not they wanted to leave many are dual citizen americans with deep roots and extended families in afghanistan who resided there for many years. for many it's a painful choice. >> we are heartbroken we were able to get every single one of them out before the end of the month but the environment was definitely changing and we could not do it but were gonna stay committed. >> i think the choice the pentagon and the military had to make you keep those gates open longer knowing there were suicide bombers like the one that blew up last thursday to risk more of american lives on the ground in american servicemember lives on the ground or do you try to pull out safely and then try to work overland routes and try to get any of the americans and some of

the special immigrant visa holders and those who worked as american allies out through other means. neil: what about the american hostage that we heard so much about. what is the situation there, how long has he been there. >> it is interesting mark is an american who had been in kabul in afghanistan the last decade pretty was taken hostage by the taliban in january 2020. we just learned from two u.s. officials a little bit more about his background and the circumstances under which he was taken he was involved in the opium drug deal and the drug deal went badly and he was traded to the haqqani network this is somebody was in afghanistan and he had a complicated relationship and the taliban had been asking for the release of a well-known opium dealer in u.s. custody in the

state somebody who had been a major drug lord in afghanistan. this is a couple get a picture nobody likes the idea of any americans being hostage and being left behind but mark is a cup located situation, the state department and the pentagon have both said publicly in the white house that they plan to do all that they can to make sure that mark friedrichs is released safely. neil: thank you very much, jennifer griffin now to the white house we will hear from the president a little later on in a couple of hours, what do we expect to hear, edward lawrence with more on that. >> two hours 45 minutes a president expected to speak we will see it behold to the schedule there's been delays in the past you just heard jennifer say the secretary of state said less than 200 americans that they left behind even more of the afghan allies that help the united states that were left behind all of them in hiding

today the secretary also says a new chapter has open and the relationship with afghanistan that is one of diplomacy, tom cotton says president biden kept his promise to the taliban to get out by august 31 but broke his promise to americans by leaving people behind. in defense of how this unfolded the pentagon spokesperson says they destroyed planes and vehicles at the kabul airport but admits everything else the us-led for the afghan he military is in the hands of the taliban he has sympathy that they could not get everyone out, minutes after the last u.s. military left the taliban said the country gained full independence hours after the picture you saw the last american general leaving the taliban celebrated with gunshots in the air of former president donald trump told stuart varney earlier today that president biden owes the american people and the world an apology because he left people and equipment

behind. listen. >> don't talk about the people killed they don't talk about the sacrifices made by so many, thousands of people, thousands of our soldiers killed, hundreds of thousands of people killed, hundreds of thousands of people if you look at both sides, very importantly we have been humiliated as a major player. >> the current administration says they have the tools in place to facilitate the exit of americans and afghan allies out of afghanistan still at this time immediately following all of this the fa from the administration band all u.s. air carriers from using afghan airspace. back to you. neil: edward lawrence thank you very much, now to the nationals that have exited afghanistan how to process and make sure that the in the up and up and they could safely come to this country actually has been following all of this in

germany. >> good afternoon it's a huge task for the military and civilian agencies that have gathered here at ramstein in southwest germany this is where many of those evacuees even those that went to carter were brought here to become process we spent the morning on the airbase basically watching the evacuees going through multiple levels of vetting to give you a sense of how multiple that is considered the agencies that are here there is a department of defense the department of homeland security the department of justice the intelligence community, the fbi, border burchell, tsa to just name a few, all of them are here to properly vent those evacuees who are here not only for the refugees but germany and of course for the united states, take a listen to this. >> when they're ready for transfer onto the united states they go back through custom border protection vetting so

when they arrived to this building they have been vetted and we know who they are. bio graphically and biometric leave. >> there you have it, a lot of stages to go through there's about 12 a day and we followed a group of those from a tarmac to a military play not only commercial airlines this was a big 17 we followed them onto the plane bound for philadelphia a nine hour flight for the evacuees and then they will be again vetted when they arrive in the united states and move on to bases across the country we did manage to speak to one evacuees who said he so happy to be out and he's nervously optimistic about the future. >> for the future i will do my best and i hope the u.s.

government focuses on us and we will do her best. >> those flights are still coming in from other areas to the basin germany for processing, 13000 evacuees currently here, they are scheduling flights to continue on to the united states all the way through september 10, is a huge undertaking and it's going on day by day and you can hear those planes taking off and heading off to the united states. back to you. neil: thank you, very good reporting what will come of all the afghan national into the united states any chance anyone of them will not be accepted or do not meet some of the intelligence criteria were trying to check and recheck a 4 million cia chief four antiterrorism chief the recruiter spying and american intelligence and author of the best-selling book, doug was very good to have you. let's say we run across a few afghan nationals who don't seem

on the up and up and their paperwork in the background seems sketchy they might have been rushed on that prematurely. they might even be in a worse case scenario, then what happens? >> it's challenging that's one of the reasons why the u.s. government was helping to process the u.s. individuals outside the united states where they had more flexibility once they're in the united states they have an opportunity for legal process to contest and expulsion and contest the evidence against them which brings in to heidi's support evidence of its classified and that they can be tricky and folks that you do with the united states occurred. neil: douglas maybe you can help me out, the administration is confident that americans and others still and afghanistan could get out of afghanistan without the presence of u.s. troops obviously he is referring

to initiatives and those in work in concert with countries and et cetera. but i would imagine it would be a lot more difficult taliban has given them indication that they would help in this regard, i guess were accepted the taliban but what do you make of the next weight of the process to get those who want out of afghanistan out of afghanistan. >> i don't necessarily subscribe where we can trust the taliban i think it's unfortunate we bought into their narrative as opposed to their deeds. let's say the taliban is not an issue for these people trying to get out, it is difficult afghanistan is not an easy place to get around, the roads are not good there is territorial disputes and stuff like that and you ready seen the humanitarian crisis as refugees go out of afghanistan to pakistan and iran

in central asia. i think they will probably be greeted if they make it that far with some support from nonprofit organizations and local governments with the refugees, i think these people have a difficult time and they will probably have to finance their way across the local smugglers to get through. and then becomes their deal to try to get into the u.s. system for approaching the u.s. embassies and conflicts to get into the process of getting to the united states and see if they're eligible where they're going to state and how long that's going to take and how long to prove the claim and gone from afghanistan they have normal access to documents and there's no local government that will attest to them in the meantime getting back to my concerns about the taliban i believe they will be looking for these people despite their claims that they will have retaliation there's already evidence of that from what i've seen, i think it's a

double-edged sword where we try to engage the taliban and pass the name of some of these people and in some ways as a enabling. neil: it is a little scary the former chief of states, we will monitor this and now that it's over regarding her from germany that they suspect about 40000 largely afghan nationals have not made it out of the country who should make it out of the country that's a much higher number than we've been using and we've been hearing from the state department our own state department claims 100 - 200 americans are still probably there and they all don't want to come home into the tens of thousands of german suspect afghan nationals are looking to get out there is simply no way to reconcile the huge differences. we have a lot more coming up including the latest on the last trading day of august and what it's looking like despite the back-and-forth today the seventh of trading month in a row for what has been a stunning year to

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presumably to their home they have their dog a number left in the small bag in hand and they are coming back into a flooded neighborhood, if you look over this way this is business used to be a wedding venue and now the barn doors are open and it's filled with water we caught up with the gentleman who stayed in his house during the storm and he described what it was like. >> the trees are down the power lines the trees are laying down it is bad it's a catastrophe. >> the wind was whistling. >> scary? >> yes very scary. >> another concern after the storm in new orleans and is looting the police department have sent out an anti-looting passport or team of people who are specifically looking for

looters they already made some arrest the mayor of new orleans said that will not be put up with. >> my directive has been very clear, lock them up we will not tolerate it and we have not tolerated it. we have apprehended those individuals associated with the looting that we have been able to identify but there is no widespread looting going on in the city of new orleans. >> for many people the flooding like this is not as big as a problem the fact that a million customers, homes and businesses in louisiana still do not have power that's about half of the state of louisiana. primarily focus in the southeastern area and generators is prevalent in every neighborhood you drive through that doesn't look like this where people are still living in their homes and because of that gas is in short supply if there's a gas station that has

gas there are long lines, fuel shortages are expected for the next several days because of the mess that they're cleaning up and getting trucks into the area extremely difficult right now with the federal government and all resources here in the state of louisiana are working on it. neil: just incredible, thank you very much for that, grady trimble in the louisiana with us is the governor of mississippi tate reeves, governor very good to have you, these are tough times to put it mildly, many of your constituents and residents are without power i've heard of the heat index north of 100 degrees. that is a scary combination, what can you tell us. >> thank you for having me on it's been a challenging 72 - 96 hours to say the least in mississippi and our neighbors to the west and south and louisiana hurricane ida entered our state in the eye of the storm stated mississippi for almost 30 hours

it was a slow moving storm but because it was slow moving we got a little less wind than originally projected but more water than what was projected, up to 12 inches longer coastline is a large storm so were dealing with primarily power outages in the southwest but in the southeast part of the state where the coast is we sell significant tornadoes as well as rising water in 12 inches of rain, it's been a challenging time but were in the process of going to work in getting things fixed in making sure that our people are okay. neil: how soon do you suspect our utilities selling power, we know in some your neighboring states it could be weeks. >> there is no doubt what happened in louisiana is

catastrophic in the storm came ashore in their louisiana and were dealing with some of the same things in the aftermath but not to the scale that happened in early yesterday morning they released some of our search and rescue that we had here in mississippi to send to louisiana. and we look at power outages until is 136,000 interstate mostly in southwest mississippi and down to 55000, we have a lot of heroes when it comes to hurricane and to get the power back on they went to work in the southwest part of the state when the storm was still in the north part of the state and they worked overnight and there down from 135,000 and that homes and businesses that are without power right now.

neil: if i switch gears, a spike in covid cases at your state as well and you had attributed some of that spike, not all of it despite your recommendation that those in the state try to get vaccinated that christians are less scared of coping because of their belief in internal life that might explain why they don't obsess about getting vaccinated. i think i have the gist of that right, is how you feel. >> what i said i don't think christians in mississippi and a lot of other places around the country and across the globe obsess as much about covid in general because we do believe in the afterlife, we do believe what the bible says and we do read the third chapter of john verse 16 for whoever believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life so the bible also teaches us that we should take precautions and certainly

we have worked very hard in mississippi to encourage our fellow mississippians to take those precautions. we have 1.43 million mississippians in the state of 2.9 million we have 1.43 million that have taken at least the first shot. almost 50% of all mississippians and keep in mind we have a large segment of those under the age of 12 that are not yet eligible somewhere between 55 and 60% letter eligible have taken the first shot and there hearing to that teaching in the bible as well and to take those precautions. i hope we can continue to give vaccines to mississippi and i hope they continue to make that decision, yes i stand by my remarks and i believe strongly that my faith drives me and that's the reason iran for office in my faith drives me everything will dana think that's true of most mississippians as well. neil: are the two in conflict with each other the reason i ask you quote the bible who believes

sean not perish but everlasting life if that is used as a justification for not getting a vaccine it seems to imply at face value that god wouldn't want you to worry about taking the maxing, that he will take care of you. do you think some could mistakenly interpret that and maybe even your comments in defense of that and not get the vaccine. >> no, i don't think that's an conflict at all. the point is the bible teaches us to take the precautions and we should as mississippians and americans take all reasonable precautions, but i do think it is also true that if you believe an everlasting life and if you believe that our time here on earth is but a blip on the screen then you tend to be a little less scared of every little thing out there, there

are risks associated with life, their risks associated with driving to work each and every day, we have a room for accident interstate overnight where we have a roadway wash away and unfortunately we had a horrific accident and two fatalities confirm at this point and up to ten individuals that have been hurt and injured, some of whom were in the hospital, we are praying for them as well but you can also believe in everlasting life and also believe that we should take necessary precautions to move forward. there are those individuals that believe and analyze the risk associated with the virus and they analyze the risk associated with the vaccine and for whatever reason made the decision to not take the vaccine, i made a different decision i was live on social media taken the vaccine long ago january of this year and i have

encouraged my fellow mississippians to do everything that they can't to do their research, talk to their physicians and make the best decision for them and their family. neil: so is your personal opinion and that's important is what drives you but you thank god would want your residence to get vaccinated. >> neil, what i would say every person of faith has to make the individual decision on their own they need to research the facts they need to research not what some of these individuals are screaming and hollering and creating panic they need to research the facts and it seems very clear to me that the facts suggest for those individuals that are vaccinated you are much less likely to contract the virus but more important legal less likely to end up in the hospital even if you do contract

the virus that seems very clear the data is continuing to get more information and more data but the data that is in is very clear that this is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated not that they vaccinated can't get it they certainly can but our hospitalization in mississippi. 89% at most recent count 89% in the hospital were unvaccinated individuals, 87% that are passed away with the delta variant since july 1 for amongst the unvaccinated. we have to continue to encourage our fellow mississippians and people across america to do their research and make the best decision for them and their family and for me and my family that decision was to get vaccinated. neil: thank you very much. the pitiful state of mississippi hopefully the power comes back on and people get back to life is normal. one more after that.

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>> welcome back to "coast to coast" i am aishah hasnie live in the capital within the last hour house democrats on the hill just blocked house republicans from putting a bill on the floor that woody demanded an evacuation plan for the remaining americans in afghanistan among other things. now republicans will go about this another way they're going to introduce a rule for a discharge petition which will be a tough task but this is part of the republican pressure campaign to get some answers to lingering questions. >> i don't know if speaker pelosi is in washington or not, i'm guessing she's not but republicans are demanding more from accountability and demanding more from that the congress do whatever it can to support this administration and get every american out of afghanistan while the administration is claiming victory there are still

americans have been left behind. >> plenty of criticism being billed out by member under memory spins task of the intelligence committee said this national disgrace is a direct result of president biden's cowardice and incompetent while even armed services committee adam smith admitted to bret baier on fox news but his biggest criticism the u.s. should've gotten civilians out sooner as early as march. democrat senator tammy duckworth is calling on armed service committee investigation into the rapid collapse of the afghan government vowing to prevent past mistakes made by leaders of both parties and leader mccarthy says the gop needs to stand out their message across the country and explanation for why he is leaving tomorrow to head back to california while he still calls in speaker pelosi to bring everyone back. neil: it is very cool seeing you in washington as a congressional

correspondent, way to go you have some big stories to cover, thank you very much. he's been following the region very closely and very pressing how this is going to unfold, i say important because it pretty much went to exactly his forecast. i'm going to push my luck now what happens. we have the u.s. out, does anyone, a superpower tried to fill that. >> i just read an article and in and i outline what to expect from day one after the withdrawal as much as we can see. number one taliban priority right now after the full withdrawal of american and naval forces is to control the country. they are going to control banks, schools, media their starting

with the media a few days ago. complete control of the country at the time were the international media is withdrawing, this is where the serious threat against the civilian population will not stop as long as there was a spot at the airport you had all these broadcast now this is gone they will treat the media differently and they will have a regional office that would select which media they would bring in under which condition, were moving into a dark situation for afghanistan. beyond that they will reorganize it will take some time to reorganize this huge army they had so many weapons and most they don't how to use but they have help they will get military advisors or jihadist from other parts of the region who know a little bit about this. thirdly, there is an area in the north called the valley under the control of the remnants of the afghan army and some resistance and they are enlarging their position. the afghan priority is to get

them out and obliterate them they will not accept a northern alliance established in the north so we can see those three stages and beyond that as you just said every power in the region is trying to carve up something, the iranians are interested in pakistani and in the russians are nervous in the chinese would like to sign all the contracts that they can finances with the television or the companies that would represent the taliban. neil: there's another issue that isis-k fighters 2000 strong in the country and they're going to cause havoc for the taliban if we buy at face value that the two don't get along, what are your thoughts. >> no i don't think that's a scenario that's going to happen we will probably see some incidents hamas and jihad in gaza and lebanon they always play in class against each other but to say this will cause a civil war between almost 100,000 strong taliban with u.s. weapons

in the 2000 strong isis is going too far even of the administration. what is going to happen the taliban now in control of the country is going to shake with isis-k and said you stay away and you do the job that we don't want to do so we make it nice and you negotiate and you will do all those little things that's most likely what will happen and that'll happen in lebanon and gaza as examples before. neil: walid phares thank you for catching up, we will see how things pan out. in the meantime we want to have a request of a taliban spokesman to have faith and invest in afghanistan because there has been a change in power doesn't mean it should be a change in investment philosophy, there was no big investment going on in afghanistan even with the old government in the last few months but obviously the taliban trying to get the word out that is a new and different taliban

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ponderosa. but having say that the dow is up north in 15.5%. we have the nasdaq up about 19% and the s&p 500 north of 20%, that is year to date so these eye-popping returns keep coming. what is wrong to think about this, early in the technology selloff, there was a substantial that you might recall earlier this year he kept the faith and said this is a great investment sector and the pandemic come out of the pandemic, between pandemics, you name it ray wang of constellation research and ceo everyone still ruled the world surviving and thriving in a digital world of giants. great to have you, do you still stick by the technology faith once battered, they're not along down for the count, they're ready coming back again today,

what do you make of that? >> if we look at 2017 the market cap of the market soft it was just a little bit under 2 trillion, today four years later it is about 10 trillion there has never been a category that has done that in four years. part of the reason they continue to do large double-digit gains in revenue if you look at the earnings reports is been good we sell something happen with interest rates they drop below one point to for a ten year yield and we saw the shift back into tech stocks because for growth growth and value are being picked up again. what we see as these companies these digital giants are dominated all parts of industry and despite the regulatory pressure they are still growing and i think people want to make sure they have a foundation on big tech and they can jump in and out of the cyclical as needed. neil: investors looking at now diving into tech or buying up a

fund that there is a performance of the nasdaq or nasdaq 100, what would you tell them. >> i would tell them to look at the other sets of digital giants we see them in roadblocks and go to we see it in doordash, airbnb these are the next generation of digital giants that are doing a couple of things, the dominating taking customer control, big networks like hundreds of millions of users there able to compete on data, they get digital monetization than everybody else with ads, search, goods, services, memberships and subscriptions they have a long-term mindset they can lose hundreds of millions of dollars to get the escape velocity and when they hit that that means they can put all their engines on fire and build the flywheels to generate revenue almost automatically. that is what we see with the next generation and enterprise tech stocks that are out there doing really well oracle, salesforce, adobe, service now

are the places you can look at investing in, some are undervalued, if you take a look oracle, the ratios are much lower than their peers there is lots of opportunity still tact to get out there. neil: they are not pricey of the revenues and earnings match that and then some, many of the technology giant is certainly remains the case. ray wang, thank you very much, get catching up with you. you heard about better than 100,000, not americans who have been evacuated out of afghanistan, that does did not happen there was not just exclusively our military forces that made it happen it was a lot of people behind the scenes pushing to force it to happen. i will explain you'll meet one who did just that. after this.

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she found a way against all odds of getting them out of the afghanistan she is kind enough to join us right now, very good to have you. >> thank you i appreciate it, thank you for having me on. neil: how did you do that. >> is certainly took a team it definitely. neil: we have a weak connection, we will check that. the problem is getting them all out of their the nine players out of the but i just interrupted her we have a technical issue i think things are working now, tell us how you did this. >> we were very fortunate it was not just me we had a team and excellent team of human rights lawyers who were able to ride away work on visas we learned this on the holocaust when refugees are trying to move or escape danger you have to have documentation and paperwork so

it is more than just getting on an evacuation list and we started that process of obtaining information in the national id card and getting visas submitted and applications across a variety of countries nearly two weeks ago and time was of the essence and he worked on many things concurrently not just the logistics and getting them through taliban checkpoints and getting them through the gates, we had to have all the documentation lined up and we were really fortunate to have a good team. neil: it would be just like you not to take any credit yourself for the status of the team. did you run into any rough patches in these moments. >> of course the movement toward the airport it took them two nights of camping out at the airport and navigating checkpoints, many of them were being there was constant gunfire

going overhead in these women is terrifying and they had to navigate through the sewage water in the canal and many pictures on the media and their abigail and not 48 hours later with a suicide bomber struck we were incredibly fortunate to get our women out at the time that we did. neil: did they go to the united states do they know where they're going to land. >> we are very fortunate in australia is the first country to act, the governance stepped up and they will be getting asylum in australia. neil: you are remarkable you did not give up on them and they are safe because of you and your colleagues in your efforts in the paperwork and you can never stress enough being in order. thank you very, very much. sometimes whatever the markets are doing and the political back-and-forth, one person did

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[inaudible conversations] >> the strategy for afghanistan, he'll be identifying what it takes to win. at the same time, he will be identifying what it takes to lose which is anything less than achieving a win. that's a pretty heavy rock to carry on your shoulders. they never know when they go out whether they'll be met with a handshake or a hand grenade, but they're ready for whichever comes their way. >> the sooner we can finish, the better. each day of operations brings added risk to our troops. >> is the taliban takeover of afghanistan now inevitable? >> no, it is not. [inaudible conversations]

>> tonight's withdrawal signifies both the end of the military component of the evacuation, but also the end of the nearly 20-year mission. it's a mission that brought osama bin laden to a just end. it was not a cheap mission. [gunfire] neil: after trillions of dollars, better than 2400 american lives lost, more than 60,000 after ap began lives lost -- afghan lives lost are, countless injured, maimed for life, it's over. the war in afghanistan, the longest in american history, is now over. so what is next especially for the couple of hundred americans, we're told, remain? and, for example, we're told, 60,000 afghans who want to get out of the country as well? if griff jenkins has been keeping truck of all of this and

has -- track of all of this and has the latest. >> reporter: hey, neil. secretary of antony blinken says he has a plan for what comes next, and he says he's putting it into action as a new diplomatic mission if begins in a taliban-controlled afghanistan with no u.s. forces on the ground. and he says that it's a top priority to get the remaining americans out, but he also admits they don't know exactly how many there are. >> we believe there are still a small number of americans, under 200 and likely closer to 100, who remain in afghanistan and and want to leave. we're trying to determine exact ly how many. we're going through manifests and calling and texting through our lists. >> reporter: this as the u.s. embassy in kabul suspends diplomatic operations, issuing a new alert for americans that says here while the u.s. government has withdrawn personnel from kabul, we will continue to assist u.s. citizens

and their families in afghanistan from doha, qatar. now, any future evacuation for stranded americans or the thousands of afghan allies is dependent upon taliban cooperation, and getting that airport back up and operational. but note, neil, there's no international agreement in place yet on who will operate it. that means evacuations are primarily only possible on the ground through taliban-controlled, isis-infested routes. and in neighboring countries, complicated by the fact that iran is to the west and pakistan is to the east. meanwhile, a pre-existing hostage situation with the taliban exists involving an american named mark friedricks. now, they say that they are having ongoing discussions with the taliban over mark's safety and his return and that that is a issue that they intend to continue to press with the taliban. no news here at the state department this morning on the situation with mr. friedricks,

but so far we see that the folks here are very focused on anyone that remains. how they're getting out, that's a big question right now, neil. neil: all right. griff, thank you for that. let's go to trey yingst who has been incredible following this from the beginning in doha, qatar. trey, now we're told that the united nations is worried about a humanitarian crisis developing. have you heard anything more on that? >> reporter: neil, that's exactly right. this developing humanitarian crisis may see half a million afghans flee on foot in the coming weeks, this as the u.n. refugee agency is basically saying, their words, that issues like access to food and access to water won't be as visible or discussed once the media moves away from this story and evacuation flights, obviously, concluding. now, despite the challenges, the united nations says they are committed to continuing operations inside taliban-controlled afghanistan. this comes as the world health organization said it delivered

its first batch of medical supplies to the country since the taliban took over. international bodies will have to work directly with the group to facilitate the flow of aid. they'll not only have to address internal humanitarian issues, but also external. thousands continue to flee to neighboring pakistan and iran. the taliban is now claiming independence over afghanistan and does have control of the airport in kabul. overnight if gunfire was heard as the group celebrated what they're declaring as a victory. images show taliban fighters walking next to u.s. equipment. now, there is some hope on the horizon, the taliban announcing they hope to reopen this runway as soon as possible to civilian flights, certainly it would be a positive development not only to the united states, but also qatar who may actually help the taliban to do it. neil? neil: you know, trey, i'm just curious what you make of these reports and these comments out of the state department and, to a lesser degree, the pentagon

that the taliban will do the right thing, that we expect them, you know, to honor their word. i think when they talk about their word, about working with us and other entities to get americans and other afghans who want out of the country out of the country, you covered the taliban. you know the makeup. are are they reliable? it's one thing to say that when our troops are still there, but they're not there anymore. >> reporter: look, i think it's easy to saudi proposal city will work when you're -- say diplomacy will work when you're thousands of miles away from afghanistan, but the reality on the ground is far different, neil. you know this. if -- in terms of how the taliban operates, they can paint one picture for the international community and for the aid organizations who are requesting to continue work in the country and then actually do something quite different. i think an image we saw over the past 48 hours really paints this point very well. we saw an an affiliate of osama

bin laden who had fled previously to pakistan come back into afghanistan to his hometown where he had previously been exiled and really not allowed to operate. an al-qaeda operative now back on the ground openly roaming around afghanistan under taliban rule. and i think that gives you a firm example of what afghanistan will see in the coming weeks, months and years, and that is international terror organizations operating out of their country. neil? neil: very interesting. trey, i know you've heard this from everybody, i just want to add my name to the long list. despite your young age, my friend, there's a wisdom to you that's much, much older. i'm not saying as old as me, you can't be that old -- [laughter] but the fact is there's a wisdom and professionalism to your reporting that has been remarkable, so thank you for all of that. just keep doing it. trey yingst in qatar, just remarkable. all right, i want to go to robert charles right now. robert, of course, the former bush 41 staffer, former bush 43

assistant secretary of state. robert, to what trey was mentioning about how everyone, i guess, behaves. and we have these factions right now. with us out of the picture, they don't necessarily get along with each other if you buy the prevailing wisdom on isis-k, the taliban and some of these other groups that are more warring with one another, what do you see happening now in our absence? >> well, it's clear, neil, that there will be a division between these groups, and they will feud with one another. but i am most concerned, quite frankly, about the americans that are not out. i mean, every member of congress should be asking for the f-77 form which is the document created by the state department x that document records the number of americans this consular affairs says are in the company. they say there were between 15,000 and 40,000 depending on how many family members were with those people. the military and state

department say that they have removed 5500 by evacuation. that leaves a minimum of 9500 in the country, and i am told that there are desperate efforts both on the ground and in the air to try to get these americans out even as others are facing the ultimate, and we're seeing it, and we're seeing afghan allies face it on the ground. so, you know, my fear is we have near term, midterm and long-term concerns to be addressing. the near term is get the americans that are in there and our allies that helped us out, and we have not done that yet, and it is unforgivable that we have not. the second is perhaps to think about removing this national security team because this is the highest level of incompetence or indifference that i think we've ever seen in such a team. and the last is to think about the long-term consequences which include what's going to happen on the ground in afghanistan but also power projection from afghanistan. and if al-qaeda or taliban permits al-qaeda to get the upper hand, we're back in --

we're at, you know, tomorrow all over again, back to the future. we're looking at 2001 all over again, and that would be very unfortunate. neil: you know, much has been said that the taliban doesn't want to risk seeing money frozen or help from the u.n. and these other entities by doing something crazy like attacking what would essentially be hostages left behind in the country, that they're not interested in doing that. i always come around though, maybe ignorantly, robert, and say none of that was important to them as they seized control of the country. so who's to say it's important for them now having, you know, international goodwill now? >> i don't think we can believe anything the taliban says. the track record is 100% the other direction, and i think that -- so, you know, i would like to keep american accountability, all the people who made these decisions, but i also think you need to look at the taliban and say nothing they

say is trustworthy. you know, originally my thinking was based on things i was hearing out of the state department and out of defense and the white house, i was thinking there was some level of new thinking on the part of taliban. i don't believe that at all now. i think this is the same organization based on everything we're seeing and hearing and, frankly, i think congressmen are having their phones ring off the hooks, but they're not talking about it because if you have thousands of americans still left in afghanistan and you have 535 members of the house and senate, their constituents over there and their families are going to start to be saying, look, either i've lost my loved one or my loved one needs help to get out, etc. i guess right now, neil, my mind is focused on the idea that we have to get americans out. we have never left americans behind. we have never done that. we don't do that when they're dead, never mind when they're alive. we have to get a handle on on that even as they try to make their way out by ground and in other ways through uzbekistan

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well, we'll see what happens down the road. still just trying to gain the magnitude of what's already happened. robert charles, thank you very, very much. to robert's point about sometimes a leopard not changing its stripes, we've got indications the taliban has already vowed to enforce islamic rule across the country. separately, afghan pilots who fled to uzbekistan, uzbekistan is saying you have to leave. the problem is they don't know where the hell to go. we'll have more after this. advil dual action fights pain 2 ways. it's the first and only fda approved combination of advil plus acetaminophen. advil targets pain. acetaminophen blocks it. advil dual action. fast pain relief that lasts 8 hours.

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neil: all right. a lot of people survived, that's the good news, but they're dealing with a lot of flooding over a wide swath of space. charles watson seeing for himself in waverly, tennessee. charles, what are things looking like there? >> reporter: hi, neil. the rain is coming down here in waverly and has been pretty consistently throughout the morning and afternoon. and as you can imagine, folks here are on edge about what this storm could bring considering the flood disaster they had here just a week ago. but when you look around this place, you understand why folks have their concerns. i mean, take a look over here, they've got these huge piles of debris. stoves, bathtubs, bicycles just sitting here. you've got homes that have been completely gutted, windows out,

and then over here you've got this home that was lifted a off of its foundation and swept away, and it's still sitting where it landed a little more than a week after the major flooding out here. and this is what's left over for folks that clean up after a storm system dumped upwards of 17 inches of rain on some areas within a matter of hours here in central tennessee. that record rainfall causing a tidal wave of water rushing through this area that killed more than a dozen people a little more than a week ago. now, they're not expecting that record rainfall today, but officials here are taking some precaution their measures to make sure that everyone is safe. for one, officials are giving out free tarping and encouraging folks to cover exposed structures and their a belongings -- their belongings so the rain doesn't cause additional damage. it'll also, the tarping i'm talking about, will also act as

a defense for, against any wind that sweeps through here. obviously, a lot of these structures have a lot of loose debris on them, so that tarping will make sure that debris isn't flying around here and putting anyone in danger. there's also the national guard out here. we've seen them checking out the creek nearby right here behind me. they're making sure that the water in that creek is not rushing up fast and spilling over its banks. of they're also making sure the waterways are clear of any if debris, again, so they don't see any of the flooding that they saw here haas week. again, neil, they're not expecting the intense and record rainfall that they saw here last week, but when you talk to a lot of these folks and you mention rain and these storm systems, that flooding disaster that they had out here is fresh on their minds. so a lot of folks concerned and hoping for the very best. neil? if. neil: absolutely. charles watson in the middle of all that, waverly, tennessee.

a lot of people call on the government to help in situations like this, but sometimes that is not enough. you hear a lot about these ngos, nongovernment organizations, probably the most successful of them all is team rubicon. it started with by a couple of marines who wanted to help people out in moments of crisis. it's grown to having helped now thousands over the course of the years. william porter, the team rubicon deputy director of operations, is kind enough to join us now. william, how are things looking? >> it's still a very dynamic situation down in louisiana. obviously, with the power being out, with a lot of cell towers being out, you know, the full picture is just coming to light. but we're seeing a massive amount of destruction throughout louisiana are and a lot of people in immediate across the country. -- in need across the country. neil: yeah, i'm sure. and a lot of people in their homes trying to get out, right in how do you roach them? >> so we have been -- how do you reach them? >> we're cutting clear path for

the search and rescue teams, but a lot of it is centered on the urban search and rescue teams going in to basically check on peek stuck in their homes. and they will do this very methodically and check on every single home the make sure the folks that want to get out can. neil: what's the biggest problem you have right now? i would imagine just getting to people, right? >> i think it's actually a two-pronged thing. number one, there's still a lot of needed roadways and some debris in the roads as well, so that is inhibiting the freedom of movement across the affected area. but secondly are, a lot of the i communications down in the individual parishes, and that's making it extremely difficult to really get an understanding of the full breadth of the damage from hurricane ida. neil: you know, then if you think about it, and you know this better than anyone else, you don't have power in a lot of these states, may not be coming back on for maybe weeks, how do you get around that? >> and this is really where, you

know, the power of the volunteer organizations active in disaster really come into play. you know, these groups, you know, including ourselves, southern baptist american red cross and many, many others, you know, have a tremendous amount of tools to come in and set up things like temporary shelters, mass feeding operations, charging stations, and we will come in and we support the government's overall response to bring that relief to those affected citizens. finish. neil: william, in the next couple of days, i mean, obviously you're dealing with heat. it's pretty oppressive, high humidity. a heat index over 105 degrees, likely to stay that way. how do you and your team, you know, deal with just that? >> 70% of our organization are military veterans and, you know, we are used to working in less than ideal conditions. we will take a knee, we will hydrate and we will press on.

the very real situation is in that this is going to be some very hard work for nonprofits, for the citizens, for these folks helping their neighbors recover, and ultimately you just have to sweat true it. you are ultimately going to take more breaks, hydrate more and then work less, but you have to keep doing that, and you have to have that tenacity. that's really the only way that you're going to get through a situation like this with the extreme heat that's out there now. neil: you're remarkable, william, and all your colleagues here. you know, a lot of faith in what human kind is capable of doing, so thank you for that. be well, be safe. >> thanks for having me. neil: we'll update you, certainly, on how that rescue effort is going and also the residual effects of the storms themselves as they move north. they talk about flooding that's going to go all the a way up into the new jersey/new york area and into new england from this one storm. after this.

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♪ neil: all right, we're a little over an hour away from hearing the president of the united states no doubt discuss what has just gone down in afghanistan, the end of a 20-year war. peter doocy on what we might be hearing from the commander in chief a little later on. hey, peter. >> reporter: neil, we're hoping he can straighten things out because for weeks the president had been telling us what he was going to do and what was going to happen, but that was different than what ultimately did happen. >> if there's american forces -- if there's american citizens left, we're going to stay until we get them all out. >> reporter: that didn't happen x now president biden says i have asked the secretary of state to lead continued coordination with our international partners to insure any americans, afghan partners and foreign nationals who want to leave afghanistan. the administration saying there are between 1-200 american citizens left in the country, and they're starting now to use a word they scoffed at just last week. that word is stranded.

>> it's not completely unlike the way we do it elsewhere around the world. i mean, we have americans that get stranded in countries all the time, and we do everything we can to try to facilitate safe passage. >> first of all, i think it's irresponsible to say americans are stranded, they are not. >> reporter: biden officials still think afghan civilians are going to need some sort of aid in the future, so they are hinting at future conversations with the people in charge now, the taliban. the same taliban this administration claims they don't trust, don't negotiate with and don't believe are good guys. so now critics on capitol hill are furious. >> every statement from beginning to end of this was a lie right up until the last statements of secretary blinken who should be one of the ones held accountable in addition to others should be removed immediately. >> reporter: president biden's going to speak later on today. the white house just told us about these remarks last night, but really they could have told us he was going to speak about this topic in january because it

seems like no matter what the realities were of the operation on the ground, the president's order was always going to stand, everybody out by today. neil. neil: and, indeed, he stuck to just that that. peter doocy, thank you very much, my friend. now to lieutenant general richard newton, former u.s. air force assistant vice chief of staff. general, very good to have you, an honor. what happens now, and what do you want to hear out of the president in a little more than an hour, sir? >> good afternoon, neil. as peter just reported, the president has to address, first and foremost, our americans who are left behind. i mean, i don't use the word stranded there, they are behind enemy a lines -- enemy lines, in my assessment. not only hundreds of americans, but also we've left tens of thousands of afghan partners behind as well. so i don't necessarily want to hear would have, could have, should have, i want the hear from the president his iron will in endeavoring to get those

americans out of harm's way who are now under, again, the control of the taliban. secondly, i want him to not only speak to the american people, but it's essential that he also speak to our allies and friends not only in the region, but globally, but also speak to our adversaries that the americans will endeavor to do everything we possibly can to get all of our americans out. also the fact there are potential shifts in geopolitical strategy here that america will need to lead our way out of this, not necessarily fall behind like we have certainly done for the last several weeks with this debacle of an evacuation. neil: general, are we in greater danger in this country as a result of this pullout? >> again, my 34 years on active duty and the 10 years since i've transitioned, i've never seen a more chaotic global security environment. bottom line answer to your question is, yes. we are in more grave danger than we were yesterday today, and i

anticipate that tomorrow because of the victory we've had with the taliban who will now be, again, hosting a parade of horribles. the taliban are brutal themselves, al-qaeda, isis-k and so forth and, therefore, i think you're going to see a rise in radical jihad. you'll see an opportunity now for the recruitment, certainly the training and putting back into the battle space a greater number of, again, jihadists that we had not really had to face over many years. that's why we went to afghanistan in the first place on 7, october of 2001 is when we struck back, and we kept our word. we got bin laden off the battlefield and so forth. now, today, i believe we are in greater danger because of what will be increasing threats to american interests but also to the american people. neil: you know, general, i guess as the numbers nerd at fox

here -- matter of fact, i like to crunch numbers, and i keep hearing from the powers that be in washington that it's in the taliban's interest to behave and do everything they said they would do and not go nuts or have a huge hostage situation because they need international aid, they need us. then i think, general, that they climbed to this point having none of that, and here they are on top of the heap. i wonder if they really care about any of that. >> i think, neil, to take the nature of the question, i don't believe there is a taliban 2.0. i think they still are ruthless, brutal. i think what we're seeing now, now that -- you know, they've been behaving themselves the last couple weeks or so, but now i think you're seeing the resurgence of the true taliban. they're returning now to a brute alice lammic rule in the streets of -- brutal islamic rule in the streets of kabul. again, the sacrifices they're willing to make to support their

terrorist wing. again, they're not going to be, to me, ready or should they be welcome into the family of nations. they can't be trusted. and so we have to deal with them as effectively as we can from a position of strength versus this position of weakness we find ourselves in temporarily. but again, the united states is going to have to lead our way out just like we did back in october of 2001 when we kicked off operation enduring freedom in the first place. if i may close on this point, it's that former secretary of defense leon panetta who was secretary of defense when we got bin lad aren, he's been very -- bin laden, he's been very clear. he says we will have to be returning to afghanistan if not against the taliban, certainly against eye access-k as they grow and threats to the united states -- isis-k. unfortunately: neil: yeah, i caught that too, general. it was surprising how strong and passionate he was about that that. let me ask you, finally, this,

sir. you often hear the taliban saying, you know, we are who who we are, it's 2.0, you don't have to buy that. but the argument the white house has been making as bad as they are, they did what they said, and they helped us with this evacuation. and referring to the terrorist attack led by isis-k that killed 13 of our bravest men and women to say nothing of close to 200 afghans, that the alternative is, indeed, worse. whatever you think of the taliban, it's better than having isis in charge. what do you -- i'm paraphrasing, i take that as the gist. what do you make of it? >> yeah, i don't think there are really any offices where you'll find that isis-k would be in charge in afghanistan. the taliban are in charge. general frank mckenzie, our commander of central command, made a statement yesterday when he talked about it was somewhat of a pragmatic approach to relations with taliban and this

business-like approach that a we've had, that's fine. i think that's no longer the case here at all. i, again, you go back to my previous comments, this is not taliban 2.0. this is a brutal, brutal organization who wants to do harm to the united states. we still remain, neil, the greatest threat to the taliban, and they are more than capable, certainly more than willing -- just like on september 10, 2001, to now august 31, 2021, they still will harbor terrorists such as al-qaeda and isis-k who want to do us harm. i don't believe there's any self-interest of the taliban wanting to deal with the united states. again, that is a glass half empty approach to this but, again, we can't, you know, diplomat ifically work our way out of this with the taliban. we are still going to have to present to them the strength, the power and the resolve and, frankly, the iron will of the united states. not only vis-a-vis the taliban, but certainly as we need to

bring back the confidence of our allies and our friends but also to make sure that we deter our adversaries who still want to do us harm, again, based on what they've seen with this disaster of a withdrawal. again, it's made it a very complicated thing, but there is no, in my opinion, there is really no effective dealing with with the taliban other than through a position of strength. neil: all right. general, thank you, and thank you for your incredible service, sir, as well. we'll be monitoring all that and what the commander in chief has to say about all this in a little over an hour. we're getting some hint, that he wants to thank the military members who executed a dangerous mission to kabul and airlifted more than 124,000 people to safety. he will, we're told, also offer thanks to veterans and volunteers who supported this effort and lay out his decision to end the war in afghanistan after 20 years. the decision that still remains quite controversial as to how it was ultimately executed.

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about what representations you make about the state of your technology, the efficacy of your technology. >> reporter: it seems that ms. holmes maintains her innocence against these charges and plans to fully defend them. at this point, neil, with the trial just getting started anything could happen including a possible plea deal with the government. it could be that she could cooperate with the government and agree the testify against her husband because his criminal trial on the same charges starts next year. neil. neil: got it. lydia, thank you very, very much. all right, we're told that as early as next month president biden might pull the trigger on exactly who will lead the federal reserve, in other words, whether he'll reappoint jerome powell or pick somebody else, but her a number of progressives -- already a number of progressives are lining up to say he is not the guy. they want to replace him.

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neil: all right, the big debate, whats the president going to do about jerome powell, is he going

reappoint the guy, we could know next month, but a number of progressives are lining up saying he is not the guy you want, mr. president, but for different reasons than you might think. edward lawrence, what's the beef with him? >> reporter: the federal reserve chairman's term is up in february of 2022, and it will ultimately be the president who will renominate him or pick somebody else. now in a a statement, five progressive members of congress have released a statement saying they would like to replace fed chairman jay powell. among those on the list, alexandria ocasio-cortez. now, they acknowledge that powell has done positive work in getting the country back to full employment as well as positive moves changing the framework of an average of 2% inflation. but the statement reads this: under his leadership, the federal reserve has taken very little action to mitigate the risk climate change poses to our financial system, adding we need a leader at the helm that will take bold and decisive action to eliminate climate risk. now, the federal reserve chairman has talked about the

need for financial firms to understand the risks of climate change. the fed has stopped short of any mandate related to climate change. so the white house official tells me the president will appoint the candidate who he thinks will be the most effective in implementing economic policy. there have been names swimming around, some have floated leo braynard, others planting to rafael bostick, atlanta fed president. he would be the first african-american to hold the job if he got it. others on wall street are betting that jay powell's going to get a second term, be reappointed to this, platterly because of -- partly because of his relationship with janet yellen. he was in the federal reserve working under janet yell when she was in charge of the federal he serve. he would know what she's thinking, what actions she's taking even without having a conversation about it. back to you. neil: all right. edward, thank you very, very much for that. brandon arnold joins us now,

national -- union vice president. brandon, this is kind of an outside the ballpark question for you, but does it matter to your organization who is the chairman of the federal reserve? >> yeah, it absolutely matters. monetary and fiscal policy are very much linked closely together, and the policy that we see coming out of the fed with regard to bond and securities purchasing is having an impact on thed broader economy, on inflation, on employment and so forth. so these are linked together while we focus primarily on fiscal policy -- taxes, spending and so forth -- it's impossible to completely dissociate the two. and on that note, i think powell has had a pretty steady hand. there's certainly areas that we can education press disagreement -- express disagreement, but i don't see a real reason to change resource right now, especially if the differences that we have with powell are over environmental policies or social justice, things completely outside of the fed's purview. neil: you know, normally it was an exception when president trump didn't reappoint yellen

fed chair, often times presidents even of a different party reappoint the existing fed chair unless there's a disaster going on like when jimmy carter was president. what do you make of the environment where the federal reserve has trillions of dollars worth of assets on its books, and the big drama is how and when it's going to slow that down, and congress is spending like money's going tout -- going out of style. that's not a great combination. >> it's not, and, of course, we were in extraordinarying circumstances. we still are to some extent with covid, so we've been a lot more tolerant of government interference in the economy than we typically would be, but now we're almost over that hump, and it's time to revert to a restrained congress, to a restrained president -- to the extent we've ever had one. so the very notion that we're talking about spending $3.5

trillion is just lunacy. we just spent $2 trillion earlier this year, a few months ago, and the effects of that are actually very negative in a lot of ways when we're seeing these inflationary pressures. it's impossible to buy a used car right now. something simple like a carton of milk is extraordinarily more expensive than it used to be, so these policies have repercussions for everyday americans. instead of spending billions of dollars on a civilian climate corps or millions of dollars on desert fish conservation, maybe it's time to rein back a little bit and focus on things that actually matter to americans which is getting back to work, getting back to school and getting back to the economy that we had in 2019. neil: real quickly, brandon, many have argued that the president's sort of damaged goods, certainly in polls, you know, pretty disastrous afghan pullout. and it's going to affect his ability to get that $3.5

trillion human infrastructure plan through. but the nipside is that means -- the flipside is that means the tax hikes won't go through or at least be delayed. are you of that opinion, that it's very much in doubt? in other words, both the big spending plan and the tax hikes to pay for it, presumably, delayed and possibly not happening? >> i think it's very much a possibility that this entire deal collapses. and i liken it to a ship, it's the last ship leaving the harbor for this democratic congress and democratic president with a unified congress and unified government. and the more they see that as the case, the more they see this as the last ship leaving the harbor, the more they want to keep throwing one thing after another on it to get their pet projects enacted into law. but, of course, that weight has problems with it because it's sinking down the boat, and if they keep sinking it down, it may not float anymore. so i do think there's a chance that this thing may fall apart. the tax increases, they've

already walked them back a little bit. it looks like instead of fully paying for the $3.5 trillion in spending with tax increases, they're going to borrow up to $1.7 trillion. so, again, that's going to increase inflation, that's going to make the problems we're currently experiencing much, much worse. so it could get worse before it gets better, but i am hopeful that it could be defeated in congress as we're seeing more moderates raise objections. neil: all right. it's a long way from any conclusive kind of signal, but, brandon arnold, great seeing you again. one of the arguments for a strong month in the markets as you've been seeing, today notwithstanding, growing optimism that those tax hikes have been stymied. we'll have more after this. ♪ music playing. ♪

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neil: is just a couple hours left of the trading day and month what looks like a seventh winner in a row, now to charles payne. charles: good afternoon i am charles payne. this is making money and breaking now president biden is set to address the nation in a few moments with all the american forces to honor afghanistan, we will take you there life this market is near closing record highs, big winners it's still not as easy as throwing darts we will discuss strategy and fresh investment ideas. jay powell tried to woo president biden but the biggest hurdle in keeping the