a palace in a republic like this. you can't do that. >> no. stuart: it didn't work. mark, let me take this opportunity for being with us the past hour. great guy. great to have you with us. come back please. as we leave you the markets are mixed. nasdaq with a solid gain up 105 points. big tech doing well. neil, it is yours. neil: thank you very much for that, stuart. big tech and nasdaq up 4% last month. that year-to-date, up close to 19%. these blistering performances continue for all the market averages. if you're counting, this is the strongest year-to-date run and rally we have had at this point in the year since 1997 when bill clinton was president. remind you how historical this is. with everything that collapsed, with all the heart break and

horror in dan began, how the markets are ignoring all of that, ignoring distressing news with covid variant and getting world health organization attention, the markets are focused on making money. that seems to be simplistic. they are driven by things not dominated by politics. as i often said, they're not red or blue, they're green. they like to make money, take advantage of situations that allow earnings a backdrop for them. all the hiring at amazon, fidelity, tens of thousands of people likely hired in the next few months. that is all these guys see. probably that that that is a goo look at half full glass of all things. it is hard to step back from afghanistan. a lot of folks still there. a lot of problems still there. for the taliban a lot of problems still to be fought. let's go to jennifer griffin at

pentagon. reporter: hi, neal. in an hour it will be first look back to see how the evacuation was conducted. it will be our first ability to ask mark milley and joint chiefs. ending 20 years of american military involvement, general milley had a message to the force. >> for any soldier, sailor, airmen, or marine, their family, your service mattered and it was not in vain. reporter: u.s. military's top officer said 13 americans killed in that suicide attack at kabul airport gave their lives to save others. there is no higher calling. except joint chiefs and austin to face a range of questions questioning military evacuation of afghanistan.

weeks ago general milley was asked why bagram airbase was closed. >> our task was to protect the embassy. in order for the embassy personnel to continue to function with consul services and all that. if we keep both bagram, embassy going, that would be significant number of military forces that would have exceed what we had. reporter: there are questions lingering how many afghan interpreters who were evacuated that helped u.s. military for decades. the percentages were small. many were left behind. the state department and pentagon refuse to say how many immigrant special visa holders are among the 100,000 refugees are evacuated. the white house insisting it was generals who decided which airport to close. >> on the tactical decision which is the right airport to have for an evacuation of course any responsible president would give significant weight to the ad vase of the commanders on the ground and their advice wasclose

bagram and focus on kabul. reporter: officials at the pentagon are pushing back, they were ordered to go to zero by the white house and just keep an embassy presence during that time. they say they had no choice but to close bagram. they needed elements of surprise to safely evacuate all u.s. troops but afghan generals say when the pentagon pulled out the military contractors who kept them airborne, that is when the house of cards fell to the taliban. neil? neil: jennifer, much is being made of the phone call the president had back in july with the afghan president in which the president was, i think trying to counter perception, advise him counter the perception that the afghan army isn't prepared or ready, that it is falling behind the eight ball. i'm paraphrasing it. what is the reaction at the pentagon and others to this revelation? reporter: remember, neil, president ghani came with his national security advisor to

washington in july. he met with the president at the white house. he also met with congress and at that time the pentagon, the white house were trying to bolster ghani and 300,000 afghan security forces hey, we're pulling out you need to step up. president ghani's message to congress, he was not encouraging those special immigrant visa holders to be evacuated from afghanistan. we need the people to build our country. the state department took the decision not to accelerate the evacuations. the pentagon had to have permission from the state department or white house to begin evacuations. they didn't receive that permission. there was a bit of a catch 22 at the time but president biden was trying to tell president ghani, hey, it doesn't look good outside of kabul, the scenes we're seeing and reports of the taliban taking province after province. you need to a, get your hands around this narrative, more

importantly stop the taliban and what was clear is that it all fell apart and the white house was surprised when president ghani fled the country. president ghani, i've spoken to his aides says that by the time they decided to flee the taliban were already at the gates in kabul and the capital, they did so to avoid more bloodshed because the troops at the palace would have tried to protect the president. that would have started a civil war in the capital. remember the taliban did inter the capital without a shot fired. neil: so the catch 22 irony in all of this is that they didn't want to start allowing americans and others to leave or start processing documents to leave because it would foment and feed the panic that ultimately ensued anyway, right? reporter: exactly but they were trying to approve visas. it was a very slow, anemic process because of bureaucracy and because of covid restrictions at the embassy that halted in-person interviews.

looking backwards you can see how this happened but, this was by no means the way they wanted to end the war or, this was the worst case scenario for their withdrawal planning. neil? neil: all right. jennifer, thank you for all that. jennifer griffin at the pentagon. go to aishah hasnie in washington, capitol hill correspondent, looking at a couple of big dell vents developments including that republicans are not letting go of this. where do they stand investigating how this all fell apart? reporter: neil, republicans are still pushing for that oversight. of course they do not hold the majority on the floor so it really has been tough for them last couple days but we are expecting a vigorous debate over defense spending today as the ndaa markup has now gotten underway, especially because republicans are bringing along with them more than 50

amendments to this markup that are directly related to the afghanistan fallout that includes, neil, finding out one, how much equipment we left behind in that country. also creating a counterterrorism account specifically for that nation. and then restricting iran from aiding the taliban. that is what they want. there is some pushback of course from democrats on how much money ought to go to defend. the senate armed services committee recently added 25 billion to president biden's 715 billion-dollar proposal. on monday, neil, 27 democrats, progressives sent a letter to the house armed services chairman stressing that ndaa not exceed the president's offer. they argue right now america's largest national security threat is a global pandemic. that is from their letter but ranking member mike rogers spoke with me yesterday and he told me thinks he will be able to get some bipartisan support on those

amendments. >> i know there is a large percentage of the democrat members of our committee that vigorously oppose biden administration's policy to withdraw from afghanistan. there is even a bigger majority of the democrat members who opposed doing it the way it was done. so i expect you see democrats support a lot of these amendments. reporter: there is also a lot of talk, neil, about that $6 billion in unspent funds that was appropriated for former afghan security forces that will obviously not be used anymore. they should use the money for the economy in the region. kevin mccarthy says it should go to bring remaining americans home. ultimately it will be best left to the ndaa markup. i'm told, neil, we should expect

a very long night. neil? neil: probably. you down there, you working very long hours. aishah, thank you very much. ndaa, national defense authorization act, that is a pretty big deal. it authorizes all military spending and levels they're set at for the next year. principal player in that joins us right now, republican mike mccaul from texas. congressman, there is a lot to this. already i'm wondering the moneys that were up to now going to afghanistan to support our troops, support our operations there, that is money that is going to move elsewhere. where do you want it to go? >> well you know i'm the leader on the foreign affairs committee. 25% of the national defense authorization comes out of our committee. i would like to see all americans out of afghanistan, have that money go towards that

mission and interpreters who fought with us in this botched evacuation but having said that, if you look at the global threat i think you are going to see a rise of radical islamist jihad. that is a threat we've had quite some time, but i think the longest threat to the united states long term is the chinese communist party. you will probably see a lot of those monies maybe redirected towards our adversary, our biggest adversary, russia, china, iran. china is the one most aggressive we are in a major challenge for domination of the world both militarily and economically. neil: if you had your druthers, congressman, and the money being appropriated in afghanistan could go anywhere else in the region? we're sort of without a feel by

which to go after terrorist groups in the region now, where would it be? >> well i would also put that money, neal, isrk ability. when we shut down the bagram and embassy we lost all tell -- intelligence on the ground. that is reconnaissance. hard to go in afghanistan. we have to find a neighboring country to build up that capability. that is not chief but fact we don't have eyes and ears on russia, china and iran anymore because we don't have bagram anymore. we can't see inside of afghanistan to see any threats that could come out, whether isis-k, al qaeda, to the taliban, external operations to kill americans or our allies. so i think that would be an area where i would want to spend money for that capability.

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looking at the national defense authorization act to see what the priorities should be but the taliban wants us to maintain our embassy there. wants america to still have a presence at least on the diplomatic front there. how do you feel about that? >> neil, i think it is premature to have our embassy there. one we still have americans in afghanistan. we need to make sure they are given safe passage out. we need to see what the taliban is going to do in terms of not providing any harbor to al qaeda, in terms of respecting women's rights. so there is no way we can recognize them as a government or have diplomatic arrangements there until some of those conditions are met. neil: does it bother you, it has come up again and again, congressman, that the president and his top military brass had to rely on the taliban to the degree they did but seemingly trusting them enough that partnership could work and they could help with the evacuation and everything would be fine?

what do you think of that relationship ironically that has developed and obviously one, if we're to believe the taliban at first blush they want to continue? >> neil, there were no good choices. as you know president trump had to deal with the taliban as well. i think the strategic mistake that was made was an overreliance on the afghan army. people new that the afghan army couldn't fight their way out after paper bag. we somehow had this delusion they were going to stand up to the taliban. in retrospect we should have probably required them to come to some sort of agreement with the taliban so we could have had a withdrawal under those conditions but the reality is that the taliban was controlling a large part of that territory and not dealing with them was simply not an option as both president trump and president biden recognized. neil: you know it is interesting this phone call that has come to light, this discussion the president had with the afghan leader at the time saying that you clearly have the best military. you're clearly capable of

fighting well. obviously that didn't happen but do you think anyone around the president or his top military advisors who were caught off-guard by this as well, failed to remind the commander-in-chief of this tenuous situation, that anyone should be fired, reprimanded for giving him bad advice? >> i do think there has to be accountability, neil. as a member of congress i knew the idea that the afghan army would fight the taliban successfully was foolish. we had generals come tell congress overand over again, we're winning the afghan army is doing well. they go off record and other journalists know say we're not winning. i want to know how is it possible that you had advice that the president of the united states actually thought the afghan army would successfully fight the taliban? were we this diluted about the corruption in the afghan army. the people were doing it for a

paycheck. they had no allegiance. that the afghan government never had the consent, attachment or loyalty of their people? we definitely need oversight over that. neil: congressman, much has been said about the president's wish, many of his predecessors to get out of there, but have we exposed ourselves particularly infighting between the taliban and isis-k fighters and still government holdouts fighting in other provinces, it is still a mess but could be a breeding ground before any type of terrorist organization and any possible attack on us? >> that is why we have to be vigilant. it is still a dangerous place. there is al qaeda there. there is isis-k there. this is why i support strikes if there is actionable intelligence on terrorism i supported the president taking out isis-k, the leaders. i think we have to be vigilant. we have to reserve the right to strike if there is any resurgence of any groups that

threaten american troops or american interests and the taliban ought to know that. they ought to know there is bipartisan consensus in congress to authorize that strike if we feel any threat to the homeland or our interests. neil: on a personal, political style, congressman, the president has been hugely criticized on both sides for having handled, detached matter in the beginning, refusing to talk much about it, obviously pivoting to other issues he thought more favorable but that he botched it that is something that is going to linger with him for a while. does that worry you? >> ultimately the president will get credit for withdrawing us from a 20-year war. i think people understand that he is empathetic, that he understands the enormous toll that this puts on our military men and women and i think what we ought to do by the way with the money that we're going to save help the veteran families? why don't we use the money to

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damage the further up north she goes with pelting rains and bad winds up to the northeast which could be under its cone of, just devastation, maybe nothing like we saw in the south in the next few hours. grady trimble is in lafitte, louisiana, where they're still dealing with the same issues. a lot of flooding and power out pretty much everywhere. what is it like there now, grady? reporter: neil, we're getting a better sense what the neighborhoods are like that we couldn't get to yesterday. this area was really only accessible to law enforcement or residents who lived back here, had a boat and could take it back. the floodwaters subsided some on the main road and you can see the damage here is immense. this trailer hopefully nobody was in that when the storm passed through. if you swing around this way, you can see how much of the floodwater is still here. all the way through here, down this street, you can see the downed power lines there, you mentioned just and you million

people in louisiana still without power today. we're going to take a ride a little bit farther down the road so you get a sense how widespread this is in the area we are in lafitte. it is just unbelievable. you can see a lot of the homes in these neighborhoods, they're used to a little bit of flooding but even during katrina the flooding was nothing like this. some homes are on stilts. many of them are not. even homes on stilts they got floodwater into them. sanford, swing around this with way you see manufactured homes there. the problem in this area, was clearly the some surge on other side of these homes. the bayou, the water absolutely inundated this area. it spread havoc all over the place. things are strewn where they don't belong, because the floodwaters rose, carried items,

cars, trailers, everything all over the place. now that the waters are finally coming down people are getting a sense of what the damage. a lot of people stayed in this area and rode out the storm. many more from this area evacuated. we just be talked to one gentleman, i want to speak to, this has been a common theme with everyone we've spoken to in this area. that is that they are resilient. i talked to a gentleman who said he lost everything in his house because he lost his chimney and his roof. it was just covered in rain. he expects it to be a total loss. are you okay, sir? you need water or anything? >> no, we're good. reporter: when i asked him how he was doing, like this gentleman here, he said we're doing fine. he said, all of this stuff is replaceable. fortunately that gentleman did have insurance but he hasn't been able to file a claim yet because his insurance company, they're without power not too far from here. you can see the attempts that

they make to block the water from coming in to the neighborhood here. but unfortunately even those massive sandbags were not enough to hold it back. when all is told, some analysts estimate that the insurance claims, because of this storm, will be anywhere between 15 to billion dollars. absolutely immense devastation in this area. there are some parts further up the road still inaccessible to us, neil, because you can't drive a car back there. that is why we're on the boat. some crews are still performing rescues today. we heard about a woman in her house surrounded by water, running out of supplies, they're trying to get to her. they need help. there are emergency crews for the first time here helping out including the national guard. they were pushing mud all over this road to clear it, so the linemen, power crews can get back here to assess the damage

first. maybe over time restore power. neil? neil: grady, thank you very much for that. boy they need a break down there, don't they? grady trimble in lafitte, louisiana. you know a lot of people look at developments of a hurricane saying thank god, i'm not there, this has no effect on me but in fact the reality it does. we see refineries, gas operations shut down in the area, slow to open up could be impacted by this. prices are up, were already up last week about 10%. they're kind of holding their own right now. all of this occurs at a time when inflationary spiral roars on. doesn't john catsimatidis know it. billionaire owner of the new york city supermarket change, catsimatidis and gutnino's. he joins us now. he referred to inflation as an attack on america. the attack is going on, isn't

it? it hasn't slowed down. >> it is going on but starts with the problem with our oil. under the previous administration, the trump administration, we were producing almost 13 1/2 million barrels a day in america. we were almost self-sufficient. they closed down the keystone pipeline. they announced a russian pipeline going into germany. you know what that means? in january we were buying 7.9 million barrels of oil from russia. now i think the russian oil is up to about, god, 9.4? what does that mean? it means putin is laughing all the way to the bank. it is an attack on america, on our energy supplies. it is an attack on america. when energy goes up what happens? the cost of transportation goes up, the cost of airlines go up

and the food prices go up. and we are expecting major increases in food prices in september and october and that is going to lead to further inflation. when the white house says that we're only going to tax the corporations and the rich. you know what that means? you tax the corporations, if you were buying peanut butter for $2.99, they will raise the price to $3.99. so it is being tossed down to the consumer. so it is a real tax on the poor, and it's a real tax on the middle class. the american people are -- neil: what do you make of it, john, when the president says, and now even the federal reserve chairman, other central bank governors, this is a transitory issue, this is passing? they refer to things like lumber prices stabilized, just a matter

of time all the other stuff does, don't worry about it, don't worry about it? >> i don't want to say the way it used to be said. they're full of. neil: family show, john. what do your customers do at catsimatidis and tag gus -- dagstino? >> the highest customers pay. you pay 2.99 for peanut butter you will pay 3.99 for peanut butter. it is a tax on the poor, lower middle class because the wealthy don't care, but all these corporations that you're raising the cost to. you're raising the cost to energy. you're razzing the cost through transportation, et cetera. they pass it on to the consumer. it is very simple to tell the consumers, you're paying for it. it is not just a tax on

corporations. neil: you know you recently hosted a fund-raiser for new york mayoral candidate eric adams in the hamptons. you got a good crowd. he was well-received. some forecasting a multiyear run, leads to white house bid. curtis sliwa, feels that you and out power brokers abandoned him and won't give him a shot. what do you say to that? >> curtis sliwa is my brother, we support him 110%. don't forget business people are business people. you have to do business in the city you're in. you have to do business in the state you're in. and you want to be able to know that the people that are in power, they will answer your phone call. that is what it is all about. it is business. neil: so did you have to tell curtis, i'm doing fund-raiser for eric adams, hope you don't

mind, how did that go down? >> no, i told curtis we support him 100%. eric adams came out with common sense thinking. he came out with pro-business approach. he came out with helping the police as an ex-nypd policeman himself. and people, look, we, we want all business people that love new york want hope. they want to make sure that our city is safe. and that is what we care about because people will not come back to the city. people will not take their subways and, that is what it is all about. safety, people will come back to new york. neil: got it. you think i'm a billionaire for nothing? you're rags to riches story. people are familiar about your background how you got to where you are. your heart seems to be with curtis sliwa and brain seems to be going with eric adams, am i

characterizing that? >> look, curtis sliwa knows more about the city than anybody i knows. he knows details of every neighborhood. he knows details of every subway station. he is one smart guy. if i was eric adams i would hire curtis sliwa if i won, hire curtis sliwa as his sheriff. neil: there you go. that could be another thing to pursue. john, great seeing you again. thank you very, very much. >> thank you so much. neil: john catsimatidis, united refining company, chairman and ceo of catsimatidis and apple group chairman. had nothing growing up. now one of the richest people on the planet. pragmatic when it comes to politics as well. stay with us. you're watching fox business. gold.

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♪. neil: after the fall, setting up the bank, the central bank. taliban opponent, central bank governor, telling bankers that banking sector is imperative, finding solutions for liquidity, that sort of thing. among the investors are savvy types, better to be working with banks than not. because the banks have, what is that expression, old money? trey yingst in doha, qatar with what is going on on in afghanistan and setting up a banking system. first they have to calm the country down, right, trey? reporter: that is exactly right. the taliban is basically going on a victory lap right now. we've seen video of the other parts of country, american, nato flags draping coffins. the video from the airport with u.s. military equipment with taliban fighters. a march in the city of kandahar,

there was basically gear given to the afghan security forces by the american military being marched through the streets. once the celebration is over, the group faces an uphill task governing the country. across the capital, lines at banks. people report you can only withdraw 100 or $200 every 24 hours. shop owners complaining people are not shopping as much as before. >> two weeks ago the market was good and people were buying but now the situation is not good and no one buys. and peoples money is stuck in the banks. no one has money to buy anything. reporter: the quick economic downturn comes as thousands continue to flee afghanistan on foot. there are efforts underway to build a safety core -- corridor for people that. you know secretary-general half of afghan's population relies on

humanitarian aid for survival. the current crisis could make that rise. a qatari plane landed at hamid karzai international airport in kabul. the first flight to land since u.s. air forces left. there are technicians from qatar to help the taliban get the airport up and running again. neil? neil: trey, thank you very much, my friend. we were telling you about two views of afghanistan these days, particularly the push, obviously full control of the country. there are these reprisals are running into. calm down those that might want to invest in the country that think it's a foolish cause. danny davis, defense priority, military expert. the first one i want to talk about intrigues me as a money nerd here the fact it is reaching out to central bankers about central bank issues like money. that, that is probably a wise strategy but how do you think

that is going? >> the taliban are about to find out it's a lot more difficult to govern than it is to fight, to build things than to blow up things. they made themselves responsible. after all these victory laps as your correspondent just mentioned there now it is time for the hard stuff because the people are really anxious and nervous what will happen. if the taliban don't deliver pretty quick, they will find a lot of disisdissatisfied people. first thing you need to get the banking system up so the country can function. that gives us leverage, helping them, encourage them to do things we think are in our interests and certainly in the interests of the afghan people. neil: they are limiting people going to their banks and withdrawing funds. even threatening that to learn all of these rumors are true. colonel, enter qatar here. it plays an important role, doesn't it?

it was balancing the wishes of the taliban and working with our own and other nato allies in arranging and processing paperwork and people coming out of afghanistan. explain to me the importance of this little-known, tiny albeit super-rich nation? >> they have been actually quite instrumental to helping us behind the scenes. the first office was opened by qatar in 2013. various levels of on and off negotiations attempted over the several years. when it came to the final hours, therm instrumental after the taliban taken over and having direct coordination with the decisionmakers of the taliban which we may not otherwise have had. certainly wouldn't have a intermediary we felt some level of confidence with. as you mentioned here the qataris are were effective in one case getting an entire girl's boarding school cleared through all the taliban

checkpoints to get out. some americans as well. they have been very helpful so far. neil: colonel, i wanted to get your opinion, because i respect it so much, on the taliban recommending we keep our embassy open and use it and have personnel to staff it. that they think a presence there would be warranted. what did you make of that? >> that is a very good sign. i think we need to be a little cautious about being too stand-offish on the taliban because they were our enemy and we hate the fact we lost this war but this gives us a really good opportunity we better seize while we have it. if we want to moderate their governing ability, if we want them to have any chance to secure the rights that women have had, the children and, any of the other rights that may be the case we have got to have some positive leverage with the taliban. the way we can do that is slew selective cooperation on certain governing things.

whether that is diplomatic or economic, some other things. this gives us some leverage. if we don't have that we won't have any leverage. neil: well-said. i always admire your pragmatism, colonel, because you look at the big picture and you don't get stuck in the past as you would look at it. the past is past. you have got to move forward. what do we do to make the best of the bad situation. it is always good having you, danny davis, defense priorities senior fellow. military expert. you see corner of the screen, we talk to the good colonel, markets advancing, continuing a runup going into the 8th month. a year in torrid pace. going into today, year-to-date the dow is up almost 16%. s&p north of 20%. the nasdaq not too far from 20%. remember when they said last year would be a hard year to repeat? we've done that and then some.

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jonathan, you wouldn't expect to see the numbers we are, seven straight up months in a row, strongest year-to-date since 1997. how do you explain this disconnect or is there one? >> neil, i value that friendship as well, really appreciate those kind words. look, the market as we always say climbs a wall of worry. we had a heck of a lot of things to be worried about this year, from the situation in afghanistan, obviously covid, worries about inflation. the market continued to climb that. you talked about amazing statistics, neil, 63 new all-time highs this year, the most since 1963. this time of year you get a few 5% pullbacks, or at least three, 5% pullbacks. we haven't had one. it is on a tear. but become unbelievably expensive. the valuations are highest since two thousand. you remember what happened then.

neil: do you think that kind of thing can happen now? >> yes, neil. in fact it could. one of the reasons has more to do with the calendar than anything else. it is september now obviously and september's historically the weakest month of the year. we think of it as being october because the famous '87 crash but september historically is the weakest month of the year. at the same time, neil, i see so much of that to borrow a phrase from alan greenspan, irrational exuberance. people are paying tens of thousands of dollars for nfts. this is literally air, nothing. consumer confidence numbers while high, i should while still down are still high compared to where they have been in the past. neil: right. >> so people are very exuberant. they have a lot of money to spend. that makes me cautious, a contrarian bet. neil: i hear you on that, jonathan. when you look at other numbers of the number of bulls to bears, when everyone is one way, that worries them, there are still a good plurality of bears out

there. that the capitulation a lot of people look for to bring on the development you talk about not yet there. are we missing something? >> yeah. you're absolutely right, neil. there are still a lot of bears out there. that is why the market seems to keep going up and up and up. we talked about gail dudack, 20 years ago. she was famous, only when she finally gave up did the market ultimately fall. there is a great saying about liquidity and cash. liquidity is like oxygen. you never realize how much you need it until supply is cut off. tough to call a top. that is my biggest piece of advice. maybe sure you have minimum, three to six months worth of living expenses put aside. neil, if the market corrects five, 10, 20%, you know your immediate needs are taken care of. that takes a lot of fear and risk out. neil: well-put. i wish you were aging as quickly as i am, jonathan. but you're not. i forgive you. jonathan hoenig, the dow up 26 points. stay with us.

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neil: 1:00 p.m. on the east coast, what a show you the pentagon briefing room shortly we will get an update on how things are going post our exit from afghanistan. a lot of development that we've been following including a number of taliban members who are talking to bankers and central bankers in forming a

relationship and encouraging investing into the country in a number of our guests are saying all of those are deemed to be encouraging developments and it looks like the taliban wants to work with the global community and not spied it as a house in the past. it's a very early sign, we don't want to be accurate but for now they will no doubt talk about that and also heavy fighting around the province that is not under the taliban control, maybe an update on that. in the u.s. presence whether we maintain diplomat in the embassy, the $800,000,000.1, whether we open that backup and use it. griff jenkins following other developments on this in the state department were a number of americans are happy to see that we ended a 20 year war but were pretty anxious about how we went about it. >> that is for sure criticism abound. about the headquarters and

embassy to provide presence, we ended our diplomatic presidency in afghanistan moved operations to doha qatar and one evacuating straight americans and afghan allies and to to resettle the tens of thousands of afghan refugees who are now arriving to the u.s., it comes as a senior state department official tells us that they are haunted by the decision that they have to make calling it a charity stick of time american citizens fighting to get straight in family out of their, describe the chaos as the clock ran out. watch. >> my mother and my sister there in my grandmother being very old it hard for my dad to bring them all with the airport and wait in the line and the huge crowds and everything. the firing that was going on in the air, smoke bombs, being pushed around, it was crazy and it's a situation that probably

should've been handled better and definitely could've been handled better with communication. >> how is it being handled now, the state department made a priority to get them out, having given them an actual extraction plan, it could be days, officials aren't saying whether the 100, 200 americans left behind have gotten out since the last plane left cobble in the airport closed, the airport by the way suffered damage and destruction in its yet to reopen that means evacuation routes are on the ground and that goes to the taliban control, isis infested territory. as for the siv applicants, special immigrant visa applicant many fought alongside our troops, the state department not saying how many have gotten out or how many are stranded behind enemy lines. neil: thank you, my friend, griff jenkins a briefing has

begun, i think general mark millie is speaking the chairman of joint chief of staff and lloyd austin there as well. that is austin speaking right now. let's go into this a little bit and get an update. >> i talked to secretary in 2001. my heart is with their families and loved ones and with our friends and allies and with our fellow citizens whose lives were lost or changed forever over 20 years before. we remember 2461 american service members and personnel who paid the ultimate price in this war. and more than 20000 wounded americans, some still carrying the scars that you can't see on the outside, we also remember the thousands of american contractors who lost their

lives. hundreds of our allies and partners from nato and beyond. and tens of thousands of afghan soldiers and police officers. and tens of thousands more afghan civilians. now we have just concluded the largest air evacuation of civilians in american history. it was heroic, it was historic. i hope the all-americans will unite to thinker service members for their courage and their compassion. they were operating in an immensely dangerous and dynamic environment. but our troops were tireless, fearless and selfless. our commanders never flinched. and our allies and partners were

extraordinary. the united states evacuated some 6000 american citizens and a total of more than 124,000 civilians. and we did it all in the midst of a pandemic in the face of graven growing threats. i am incredibly proud of those who made it happen and they made it happen with great and skill and humanity. our outstanding men and women showed steady judgment under crushing pressure including some very young service members who summoned up exceptional courage at close quarters. they ran an international airport. they sped up visas, they fed the hungry, they comforted the desperate. and they got plane after plane after plane into the sky.

our forces risk their own lives to save the lives of others. and 13 of our very best paid the ultimate price. many of them were too young to personally remember the 9/11 attacks. the united states military will always honor their heroes them. we honor their families and we owe them support through the days and years ahead. it is noteworthy that on the day of the attack at the airport our troops and their partners pushed hard and carried on. putting 89 rescue flight in the air in a span of 24 hours.

and lifting 12500 souls to freedom. it has been in the enormous achievement, not just by the u.s. military, but also by the military of our allies and partners, and of course by your teammates at the state department. now that the war is over and were entering a new chapter one where our diplomats and interagency partners take the lead. were part of an urgent team effort to move afghan evacuees out of temporary housing and intermediate staging bases in the gulf and in europe and on to begin new lives. i'll be traveling to the goal for next week to thinker thank r partners to help shelter and save afghan civilians.

some of those brave afghans will be coming to make new lives with their families in america. after careful screening insecurity vetting run by your interagency partners. we are temporarily sheltering some of these evacuees at military facilities here at home. i am proud of the way our military communities have welcomed them. some of these courageous afghans fought alongside us. they and their families have more than earned their places in the land of the free and the home of the brave. welcome these afghans is not just about what they have done it is about who we are. as one mission in others must go on. and even during our afghan

retrograde, this department was racing to help victims of natural disasters at home and abroad and we still are and we've been driving to in the pandemic and we continue to tackle security challenges from china and russia, iran and north korea. it's our duty to defend the station and were not going to take her i off the ball. that means relentless kind of terrorism efforts against any threat to the american people from any place. it means working with our partners to ensure stability in the region around afghanistan. and it means a new focus to her leadership in this young century. to meet the security challenges from china to seize new opportunities in the indo pacific and elsewhere and to deepen our ties with all allies and partners.

and to defend our democracy against all enemies. but for today i want to in with the word to the force and their families. i know that these have been difficult days for many of us. and as we look back as a nation and the war in afghanistan i hope that we will all do so with thoughtfulness and respect. i will always be proud of the part that we played in this war. but we should not expect afghan war veterans to agree any more than any other group of americans. i have heard strong views from many sides in recent days. and that is vital. that is democracy. that is america. as we always do this department

will look back clearly and professionally and learn every lesson that we can, that is our way but right now it is time to think all of those who served in this war because you are the greatest asset that we have. you. the extraordinary men and women who volunteer to keep us all safe and your families, my prayers are with you and with the goldstar families who lost loved ones in afghanistan and with the warriors who mourn their fallen brothers and sisters and with those who bear the wounds of war to body and to soul, we will never get what you did and what you gave. our country owes you thanks that will not fade.

and support that won't falter. the war has ended but our gratitude never will. and finally just a word of the haiti helicopter mishap off of the coast of california. i know the navy is working diligently as search and rescue operations. and on behalf of the whole department i want to pass on our thoughts and prayers for the best possible outcome. it's another reminder of the dangers are men and women face every day overseas, at sea and here at home. let me turn over to the chairman. >> thank you secretary and good afternoon everyone. three weeks ago the united states military received omission to conduct a noncombatant evacuation

operation from afghanistan in support of the department of state in order to evacuate american citizens, the department of state designated afghans with the directed completion date of 31 august. the key military tasks were to secure and defend the national airport in kabul, evacuate all embassy personnel, evacuate all american citizens that wanted to get out and evacuate other afghans as designated by the department of state and retrograde all of the u.s. military. in short the united states military was tasked to conduct two highly complex missions simultaneously. retrograde while in contact with enemy and a neo-in a non-permissive environment. we executed that mission and highly dynamic dangerous operating environment. from the war-torn country and

was conducted across nine countries and 26 enemy staging bases and temporary safe havens. we deployed between five and 6000 military personnel on the ground some of whom were forward deployed based on a contention planning. these elements came from the 82nd airborne division special forces in the marine corps along with navy and air force personnel. flying in support were combat air craft from the navy and as well as a double support from the transport aircraft the pilots and crews of the united states transportation command. and afloat we had strike groups. we flew 387 u.s. military c-17 and c-130 shorties. and we enabled 391 non-u.s. military, a total of 778 sorties

evacuated a total of 124,334 people. which included almost 6000 american citizens, third country nationals in afghans designated by the department of state. we will continue to evacuate american citizens under the leadership of the department of state. as this mission has now transition from a military mission to diplomatic mission. evacuees flowed through the staging baystate haven and central command and european command for onward movement to the united states, a third country where the home of origin for repatriation, evacuees complete medical and security screening, vetting in accordance with the lead federal agency guidance of the department of homeland security. currently, there is approximately 20000 evacuees and

seven staging bases in five countries in central command. another 23007 staging bases in four countries in europe. as of this morning there are approximately 20000 afghans who arrived at eight different military bases in the continental united states. this mission cost 11 marines, one soldier and one navy corpsman their lives and 22 others were wounded in action. in addition to all of the 100 afghans killed and wounded in a horrific terrorist attacks of 26 august that abby gate. from the southeast perimeter of the airport. those soldiers, sailors and marines gave their lives so that others may live free. they literally gave their

tomorrows for the tomorrows of the people that they knew, those 124,000, they never knew the 13 who died and they will never know the 22 who were wounded in the thousands of dead dead and wounded that came before them. but they will now live in freedom because of their behalf. nearly two decades have passed. since a horrible dark september day in our nations history in 2977 innocent lives were murdered. since then the men and women of the united states military in our agency partners have fought tirelessly to defeat terrorists in afghanistan and around the world. home and abroad their talent their efforts have carried this fight day and night. in afghanistan our mission, our

military mission has now come to an end. we will learn from this experience of the military. how it got to this moment in afghanistan will be analyzed and studied for years to come. we in the military with transparency and candor, many tactical operational and strategic lessons to be learned, 800,000 of us in uniform served in afghanistan over the last 20 years, our nation spent over a trillion dollars and most important he 2461 soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines gave the last full measure of devotion, while 20691 were wounded. an untold thousands of others suffer with invisible wounds of

war. as we close this chapter in our nations history. and all of those casualties alongside of our allies and partners and we should never forget the 60000 afghan national security forces gave their lives in the conduct of this war. our counterterrorism efforts in afghanistan and the region over 20 years has protected the american people from terrorist attacks in the men and women and children who were just evacuated will ultimately be the legacy to prove the value of our sacrifice for the past 20 years it is not been a major attack on the homeland. it is now our mission to ensure that we can continue our intelligence efforts, continuer counterterrorism, our military efforts and protect the american people for the next 20 years and we in the american military are committed to do just that, for those of us in uniform who

served in afghanistan were families who have suffered and sacrificed along her spying, for those who have supported us, these are been incredibly emotional and trying days, indeed years. we are all conflicted. with feelings of pain and anger and sorrow and sadness combined with pride and resilience. there are no words that i or the secretary or the president or anyone else will ever do to bring the dead back. but we can always honor them. one thing i am certain of for any soldier, signalman airmen or marine and their family your service mattered and was not in vain. thank you.

>> i think we have enough time for a few questions and we will start with you bob. >> thank you, mr. secretary looking ahead in afghanistan questions for both of you please, given the experience of the past couple of weeks at the kabul airport where u.s. commanders were coordinating or communicating daily with taliban commanders to an effect that general mckenzie said it was at times very helpful and i know general milley in your case last year you had face-to-face meetings with the taliban leaders at least on a couple of occasions, what do you think these experiences say about the prospect for the united states relationship with the taliban to include the possibility of any coordination and counterterrorism operation against isis-k in afghanistan? >> let me applaud the initiative of our commanders on the ground

who would stop at nothing to accomplish the mission that they were provided and evacuating as many american citizens and third country nationals and siv applicants as possible. we were focused in working with taliban on a very narrow set of issues, it was just that, to get as many people out as we possibly could. i would not make any leaps of logic to broader issues, i would just say again i'm immensely proud of what our troops have done to this point and it's hard to predict where this will go in the future with respect to the television. >> i would just say secretary and i both served in afghanistan and many of us did in you all did too. we don't know what the future of the taliban is. but i can tell you from personal

experience that this is a ruthless group from the past and whether or not they change remains to be seen and as far as our dealings with them at the airfield or in the past year or so in war you do which you must to reduce risk of mission in force, not necessarily what you want to do. >> any court nation with isis-k. >> it is possible. >> going forward again i would not want to make any predictions i would tell you we will do everything that we can to make sure we remain focused on isis-k, understand the network and the time of our choosing in the future, hold them accountable for what they have done. >> let's go to eileen cooper. >> taken for doing this i have a question for you and another one for general milley.

mr. secretary perhaps it's possible that there is no exit from afghanistan that would not have been chaotic given what we now know and for all the reasons the administration has mentioned. i would like to know now in hindsight is there one thing that you wish you are the pentagon had done differently. >> thank you, i would just tell you there hasn't been a single operation that i've ever been involved in where we didn't discover that there's something that we could've done better or more efficiently or effectively, all also say no operation is ever perfect. i will tell you we will do what we always do and that is to look at ourselves and do reviews and we want to make sure we learned

every lesson that can be learned from this experience. but i want to take the time to do it the right way and so we will do that in the days ahead. i was just going to say, i will say again i am enormously proud of our men and women who worked hard to accomplish what they just accomplished which as i said earlier is historic and heroic. >> the previous administration did leave and put a lot of hurdles in the way of the siv program that this administration had to deal with upon arrival, do you think at all that's because the pentagon work so hard with these people for 20 years, these translators and interpreters -- >> what i would say the siv

program is not designed to accommodate what we just did and evacuating over 100,000 people. perhaps this program should be looked at going forward is designed to be a slow process and secretary blinken in the state department worked hard early on to shorten the timeline to work your way through the process but for the type of operation we need a different hipaa capability. >> for general milley, i wanted to ask you about sunday's drone strike can you take us back to that morning you have intel the isis-k is plotting another attack the military spots a vehicle that you believe is full

of explosives and we take the car out with the drone strike in report say ten civilians may have been killed. because of the urgent threat involved at the time do preliminary assessments indicate that we may have waived all together some of the normal checks and balances that we do before a strike like that. >> a couple of things as we always do on all of these things we initiate an investigation so were reviewing the video and all of that but having said that what we know and don't know and what we think, at the time i think this is still valid and very good intelligence that isis-k was preparing a specific type vehicle at a specific type location, we monitor that various means and all of the engagement criteria would be met

to the same level of rigor we have done three years and we took a strike, that we did. secondly we know they were secondary explosions because there were secondary explosions there is a reasonable conclusion to be made but there was explosives in that vehicle and the third thing from a variety of other means that at least one of those people that were killed wasn't isis facilitator. were there others killed, yes there were others killed, who they were, we don't know we will try to sort through all of that but we believe the procedures at this point i don't want to influence an outcome of an investigation but at this point we think the procedures were correctly followed and it's a righteous strike. >> we have time for one more question will go to barb for the last question. >> your messages from both of you your messages of compassion and gratitude are certainly understood, and the last several days both of you at multiple times have issued these messages

and statements. when what i'm curious about what you see in the country with troops and veterans that makes you feel, you did a rare thing, that makes you feel these messages might continue and put out to many in the last few days in general milley i was struck you use the word pain and anger and he understood that so the combat veteran yourself of afghanistan can you help people understand that, where does your pain and anger come from if you can answer your views on that. >> i would start by saying this is the longest war in our history. there have been a couple of generations i have participated in this war and as we have gone

about i've gotten input and reactions that are from all sides of this issue and as i said in my opening statement that is to be expected and of course i respect that and i think we have to provide ourselves the time and space to adequately deal with everything that our veterans have been through and we will work through those issues and the system will be there to support our veterans as we work through the issues. i just think we need to respect each other's views and be supportive of each other. and one thing i would say people will process this differently and for those who think that they need help, please seek help. we are there for you and you've heard me say a number of times before mental health is health.

and this will take time for people to work their way through their varying opinions on each side of ohio and that is to be expected and respected. >> there is a question for both. >> you asked for my pain and anger comes from i have all the same emotions and i'm sure the secretary doesn't anyone who has served, i commanded troops then i wasn't born a four-star general i have walked the patrols and been blown up and shot in my pain and anger comes from the same as the grieving families and the soldiers on the ground last night and visited the wounded at walter reed, this is tough stuff, war is hard it is vicious and brutal and unforgiving and yes we all have pain and anger and we may see what is unfolded over the last 20 years in the last 20 days that creates pain and anger and

mine comes from 242 of my soldiers killed in action over 20 years in iraq and afghanistan. i have that but i'm a professional soldier, i will contain my pain and anger and continue to execute my mission. >> we have to go guys, thank you guys. [inaudible question] neil: there you have it a rather interesting development and from general mark millie and his only experience about having commanded armies in afghanistan in the last 20 years with 242 million women but both men saying despite their experience in the country and the taliban and all the violence they endured so much of that time in the country that it's possible to work with the taliban in the future against isis and

afghanistan both men echoed prior comments we heard about the taliban was cooperating on this evacuation and they realized their thuggish brutal past and i quote general milley, these are different times, different circumstances, there is a lot of a high dotting nt crossing that will go one in the general said for years to come on all of this, what we do know right now the political fallout is very real and palpable and there is the reimagining if you will of the mba the national defense authorization act as a sweeping defense bill that the spending will go and all this money we've been spending in afghanistan where will that go and republicans better prioritization and to avoid

calamities like race all play out in afghanistan. chad pergram has been following not republicans are using this to a reimagining of the mba, where does this all stand. >> there is going to be an amendment in the defense bill that ndaa that will put strictures on the united states working with the taliban that will be something played out in the next 12 hours or so we expect the markup in the armed service committee for go to three or 4:00 o'clock in the morning it's in all the change process that is something to look for and something else on capitol hill talking to sources they indicated that maybe they can play the taliban not that they're completely in league with the taliban but use the taliban as a wedge against isis-k, there is this theory in war the enemy of my enemy is my friend and as they perceive isis-k to be the bigger threat maybe the united states works in some form and that remains to be

seen with the taliban to fight isis-k as a bigger threat let's let history be our guide let's look at what the united states did there was money appropriate from the u.s. capital to fund in afghanistan in the 1980s. to fight the soviet union that was a case study in this using the remnants of the ragtag group and afghanistan to fight the soviets and you know what happened to the soviet union involvement in afghanistan. whether or not any of that plays out, we just don't know but those are a couple of things to look for, the other thing to watch for, young congressman mark wayne, republican from oklahoma he tried to go to afghanistan in the past couple of days to get people out mole and posted a message on instagram that says i am heading home, his post says he has been trying to get americans out of afghanistan and he says he went dark because it was not safe to communicate. fox e-mailed with him overnight, he did not answer and whether he reached afghanistan he was mom

when asked if he successfully extracted american south moulton was one who did go to afghanistan last week. >> i know mark wayne and i been asking some of my friends and connections about him because i'm concerned for his safety. there's a role for congressional oversight in these wars and there is a role going forward but we obviously had to be very careful about how we conduct that oversight. >> last week kevin mccarthy and house speaker nancy pelosi both warned members not to go. >> this is deadly serious, we do not want members to go. >> they feel so desperate that people need to be evacuated and they need to freelance on their own, does that speak to this problem on the evacuation. >> no they want to freelance on their own, i would not make anything bigger of this. >> mullins colleagues understand why a number may take matters

under their own hands. >> it shows the frustration that you have been seen on both sides of the aisle in congress people want and demand action these are american citizens left behind. >> the house i'm services committee is conducting the markup session today on the annual defense bill gop members want the bill to require the pentagon to tell congress about americans left behind. neil: in the meantime there is a move more supported by republicans and democrats although a lot of democrats to your earlier point are open to getting answers and how this all came about. investigations and studies that can go on for months, what is the latest on that. >> you can imagine a scenario when congress comes back into session on the senate on the 13th and the house on the 20th, the armed services committee, the foreign affairs and foreign relations committee, they will have inquest into this, republicans are very

exercised about this, they could maybe try to run their own independent investigation, jim jordan was on fox business earlier today the republican congressman from ohio and he said he would like to call adam schiff the chairman of an tillage's committee come in and see what he knows there had to be some dissonance in the intelligence, that will probably not happen but don't be surprised if republicans don't find themselves getting the answers that they want if they try to run a sidebar investigation and whatever the democrats are trained to do since there in the majority in the house and senate. but keep in mind democrats are not very pleased with this administration either, adam smith, the chair of the house armed services committee said to bret baier on fox news the other night he said the messaging on afghanistan has been all over the map and so democrats in this building are quite upset. neil: thank you very much. chad pergram, i want to go right now to the security fellow of national security project in

last week you said it was about getting people out of their and others pushed by nancy pelosi and others don't even attempt to do it on your own. it is interesting that we have learned a good many of interpreters and other of these applicants possibly into the thousands have been left behind in afghanistan to say nothing of either 100, 200 or more americans now the military leaders have said it's moved on to the state department in the baton has been passed to them to handle this. but without troops what are our options to get those folks out? >> the association of wartime allies in which i'm trying to be a board member has decided were going to take it upon ourselves, you are right were tracking around 175,000 afghan wartime allies that have been left behind. the defense department this far can only account for 8% of the special immigration visa applicants that were needed

evacuation in our fear the vast majority of them that were left behind, there's not a lot of good options, were gonna be seeking to use our organization as an umbrella organization of the efforts that are ongoing, here the members of congress and the frustration and there are a number of veterans who have watched their own private initiatives to go to afghanistan and neighboring countries and try to facilitate the extraction of individuals, those are going to continue until we feel that we completed their mission and that is to get every single afghan that needs extraction out but to be clear as much as this discuss me, it's likely going to come down to the taliban they are now controlling all the airfields in the borders of afghanistan unless they allow us to move people out through those borders the only real options

and that will take a very long time considering the amount of people that still need to be extracted from afghanistan. i do by the way hope that congress holds hearings into this investigation. i think it's important for democrats to lead it, republicans have failed to investigate the trump administration for issues and we the american people not to show to ourselves but to the world that we can be trusted to responsibly self govern just because it was democrats who now hold the keys to power and the democrats to our office and it doesn't mean democrats should get a pass there were a lot of mistakes that were made those mistakes run the gamut of both political parties and the reason there was a backlog of individuals needing to be extracted and evacuated is on the trump administration, the reason why this evacuation was not conducted months ago when it should've been his on the biden administration congress should

be investigating all of that is time to put partisan politics to the side and realize we lost lives in this and we will continue to lose lives going forward because of the mistakes and partisan politics should not get in the way of the proper investigation of those mistakes and ultimately legislation that should lead to ensuring that those mistakes are never committed again. neil: what i think and eight enjoy most of having you on you don't see light to a political prism that matters little and not to you, you just want to move forward and learn something from this and in this particular case get thousands of them out of the country you mentioned right now that it's very, very hard that the taliban is fighting back but do you have any early signs right now that the taliban will indeed work with groups like yours and others trying to get people out because the prevailing wisdom that they won't, they will make it difficult and you will have to do the secretive operations

to get what would be a really big dunkirk size group of people out and that is not easy. >> i don't have a lot of optimism, the people who will have the best success diplomatically with the taliban are the qatari's and the turks people who have had some success in being able to negotiate in the qatari's are attempting to reopen the airport, we already have visual evidence of the taliban conducting door-to-door searches throughout the country now looking for our wartime allies they even made it abundantly clear that despite their public statements intent to let these people leave and that they are going to be mass executions and retribution and killings and punishment that will be conducted on these people because for the perspective these people were american spies who helped her

military kill taliban soldiers for the last 20 years and they want their revenge, that's why this is so frustrating. we have said all along there will come a point in time in which we would no longer be helping in the system and protect these people and that moment is coming past it now falls to those of us who served with these people to keep our nation's promise and that is why again you are going to see the association of wartime allies work until this mission is complete. i will be blunt with you we have a lot more failures ahead of us i fear that we will have successes. the taliban control, way too much cards in this game and there are not a lot of good options and i don't have as much of the biden administration that i want to negotiate and trust terrorist, i don't. neil: so when you talk or fear of the reprisals against afghan nationals working with the united states or worse and they

could be killed, the only thing that the state department keeps mentioning the president himself we have leveraged the idea being the financial clasp to help them out already today and a couple of taliban members talking about working with central banks around the world including our own to secure finance with the taliban. on that level alone this is prevailing view that the taliban will change its stripes because it doesn't want to do anything to upset that, my only thought on that, you're the expert when taking over the country, without any concern about how it would look to the international community or central banks all over the world they don't care about that stuff, where are you on this? >> they have banned women throughout the country and they have been fired from their jobs and they're not allowed to leave their houses without a male escort. they just shut down all music programs in the country and they are banning all sports, we have

three videos that we seen and sent to amnesty international of mass executions that have taken place and mass executions, the taliban wanted to be a legitimate government of afghanistan they would have registered themselves as a political party, they would have put forward candidates in the next election and they would've tried to win two democratic means. the violent thugs who took over in an armed coup and i fear the white house grossly misunderstands our ability to sanction them at this point, they are going to find a financial system ready and waiting in russia and in china and access to enough capital to whatever enterprises they want to continue to pursue in those means. our best leverage against these people was our military footprint. and it is gone.

neil: thank you very much for that we need to hear this a clear eyed view of the world and what's going on, matt seller, thank you very much. we will explore exactly how the administration hopes to move forward working with the taliban because they telegraph today in the comments are easier to work with them as a way to block off isis-k. that is assuming that both of those organizations are not on the same page. will it pay off ♪ ♪ it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. get ready for it all with an advanced network and managed services from comcast business. and get cybersecurity solutions that let you see everything on your network. plus an expert team looking ahead 24/7 to help prevent threats.

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neil: 100,000 plus afghan refugees who have been flown out of the country are coming to this country, the vetting process is very crucial. my next rest under guest maria congresswoman i think you said not too long ago, your overwhelmingly these are asylum concerns and that that is the case in my for most of them, some could slip through the crooks and might have already, what you make of that and how do you police thought. >> i cannot hear your question, it's wonderful to be in the program i would like you to please repeat it.

neil: are you sure that everyone who is coming in from afghanistan is safe. >> we cannot really know that but i do know i'm sure that many of the people that we left behind should be coming in and those people helped us so we have a vetting process and immigration reform law with the system i should say that is not working for the afghans with hispanics or anyone else that wants to come into this country but what were seen by leaving afghans who helped us, so he left behind, it is this ultra despicable and what receive is frustrating and i was listening to your segment we never see this in the history of this country. and specifically, i'm not sure in your last segment, the fact that the taliban cut the internet and the remote province

that they did not want people and international communities to see what you're doing to the rebels which is exactly what the cubans have done in cuba to the cuban people. the taliban and in the cubans of the same thing, everybody really wants freedom. neil: let me ask about the administration moves right now, to talk to the taliban and for no other reason to square off isis-k in other words times have changed and maybe this is the time to advance discussions, what do you think of that? >> to advance discussions with the taliban? neil: yes. >> i don't think you should be advancing discussions with someone, i love your phrase, brutal at the core, you do not

negotiate with the terrorist regimes, look at what they have done, they have tried a couple of weeks to say they were going to preserve women rights and they are not letting women go to work there forcing marriages of some of the girls that don't have enough years to be able to get into marriage. i don't think that negotiating with anyone who is doing this to their own people or to the american citizens that are left behind that we should be negotiating with what we need to do we need to be talking to them in a forceful way and tell them you need to let me breakout get on the country in the list of american citizens and afghan interpreters helped us for 20 years. that's what i think we should be doing. neil: we are tight for time very few seconds, they are not going to make good on that they are

not quite help us anymore, then what do you think we should do that is the case. >> the opposite of what were doing, we need to go back and we have to bring back military personnel and speak the language of the taliban know about which is force and intimidation because you just thought we were nice and even the biden administration would've done something completely differently but the biden administration tried to negotiate with them before august 31 and look what they did they spit on us. neil: congressman salazar, thank you very much, it's back-and-forth on how we deal with the taliban now it is still an issue, how big of a one. that's the nature of being the economy. i've observed investors navigating the unexpected,

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