president biden is expected to campaign with governor gavin newsom next week. biden's visit will follow that of vice president kamala harris which happened this week. that does it for us on "fox business tonight." i will be here all week. i hope you come back to enjoy us. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. >> good evening, everybody. we begin with a brewing scandal in afghanistan. the biden administration claiming it has enormous leverage over the taliban but what about the americans that are still stranded there? secretary of state antony blinken under tremendous fire denying that the taliban is blocking americans from leaving while at the same time the white house says there is no rush to recognize the taliban government. now senator lindsey graham is predicting the united states will have to go back in to stop

a festering terrorist threat. joining me tonight, former deputy national security advisor kt mcfarland, former white house counsel of economic advisors chairman kevin hassett, sean duffy, greg murphy from house education and labor. "the hill"'s kristin tate and former acting i.c.e. director ron vitiello. here at home biden trying to shift the focus to domestic policies but with an end to benefits for more than seven million americans will it finally spark employers desperate to fill more than 10 million vacant jobs nationwide? plus, september looking like a rough month for democrats. progressives and moderates at odds over some of the biggest issues of the year including the giant infrastructure and spending bills and also talk of adding more justices to the supreme court. also, in chicago and seattle, backlash by some of the city's

biggest unions over vaccine mandates for workers. some even walking off the job. to the border where a new migrant caravan is working its way towards the border amid reports that the biden administration is considering restarting a version of trump era programs for asylum seekers. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. jackie: we begin tonight with the ongoing mission in afghanistan. state department accused of holding up evacuation flights from afghanistan and reportedly taking credit for the rescue of some americans. this as the biden administration saying that the u.s. has enourmous leverage over the taliban. with 100 americans still to be

stranded unable to evacuate, many are questioning how much influence does the united states really have here? edward lawrence live at the white house with the latest for us. reporter: jackie, the administration also acknowledging there are sick planes at a smaller airport in afghanistan that has americans and american allies on board those planes. now it has been that way for days. the taliban refusing to let the planes take off. in a memo obtained by foxnews.com the state department refusing to allow those planes to land. the secretary of state says he was told by the taliban some people not having the right paperwork on board. he also says the state department has been in contact with the taliban in the last 24 hours working to get these people out. >> they said that they will let people with travel documents freely depart. we will hold them to that. the international community is watching to the see if the taliban will live up to their economistments. we believe the number of those who have american citizenship,

many of them dual nationals who remain in afghanistan is somewhere around 100. reporter: that is the american citizens that does not include the allies of the u.s. who helped get us past, over the past 20 years with the taliban or against the taliban. so the white house says that the u.s. has leverage over the taliban because it wants to be formally recognized as a country. the press secretary jen psaki adds they're in no hurry and it will be based on actions. retired general keith kellogg says the u.s. has no leverage anymore. >> simply put we've got no leverage. we were run out of that country. basically in the middle of the night as we went forward. when we talk about leverage, you talk about things like diplomatic leverage. we don't have any. we don't have an embassy there anymore. they basically severed relations with us and they don't really need us. reporter: on the money front a watchdog group says they're getting more money with taxation

as trade goes back and forth with iran and they're buying oil from the iranians opening up their market. back to you. jackie: edward lawrence thank you so much for that. joining us to discuss this former deputy national security advisor kt mcfarland. good evening to you. always great to see you. we're talking about afghanistan as we have left that country. now you got the taliban, terrorists essentially trying to form a government here. you've got antony blinken saying we'll see if they live up to their obligations. it is staggering here to watch this unfold and u.s. reaction to it. your thoughts? >> i wish he would stop talking, the more secretary of state talks the more he looks like a whooped puppy. we have left afghanistan. we have no diplomatic presence there. we have leverage if we're willing to use it. the leverage is not what we're thinking the world community and

what they think about the taliban. you think the taliban leaders care two hoots about going to cocktail party at u.n.? they don't care about the international community being scolded by the secretary of state. they defeated in their minds, one of the greatest empires in the history of the world, the united states. the whole thing relying on their goodwill and their word, you know they told us they were going to let those americans out. come on, get real. the only americans who are getting out are people rescued by private americans, former special forces who are going in and getting americans and bringing them out. jackie: you've got the u.s. government, kt, actually trying to block that. to add some context to the reasoning behind it, what they say is that the private flights are not good to take these people out because they could harbor terrorists. we can't control who is or who is not on these flights. however during the period of evacuation leading up to when the united states actually with

drew we don't know who was on the flights either. this has become a grand mess. >> yeah and i'm not buying this excuse. you know the united states government has biometric data on the afghans who were helping the united states, who were working for the americans. that is how they got their i.d. cards to get on to the american base at bagram, for example. when we left bagram, what happened to all the biometric data? it was seized by the taliban because we left it behind. i don't buy we know which americans are there. we don't know which afghans are there. we don't know who is what. come on, check your own files. amazon could have figured this out. the state department can't? jackie: that is a very good point that you make there. of course the state department says oh, we're communicating with all of them and communicating with the taliban and working with the taliban to get them out when i hear about working with the taliban to get them out, i feel for people on the ground who you could say are

hostages at this point. these are people that could leave, not allowed to leave the country. we're in a period defining what a hostage necessarily is. you have blinken testifying on the hill. do you think anybody will hold his feet to the fire here? and if they do will he just dodge the question? >> i'm sure he is very good at dodging the questions. i'm sure he will dodge whatever questions he gets. you know, here is the other thing is, i think the biden administration figured they were going to get away with this. though didn't think it would be quite this bad. they didn't think it would be quite the fiasco it turned out to be. they think, look, there are no reporters left in afghanistan. whatever happens next will not be reported in the international community but now what they're seeing their poll numbers are dropping. their popularity is fading. that is why they have gotten to the point where they're tankerring credit for stuff they didn't even do. jackie: that is perfect. watch this sound bite from fox senior political analyst, brit hume, saying biden, he

can't turn the page on this. >> the biden administration would like to turn the page away from this story and focus on other things. i don't think the story will let them do that. the media to some extent will comply and focus less on afghanistan, did so intensely for several weeks but afghanistan is like a time bomb over there. i think this is overwhelmingly largely on biden but they can't fire him and if this gets worse for him politically he might feel the need to get rid of some of these people and be seen as starting, turning over a new leaf but so far he stubbornly clung, as peter doocy just reported his insistence this was a great success. i don't think the public agrees. i don't think it will likely start agreeing anytime soon. jackie: kt, to your point, quick reaction to that? >> it is not going to go away. americans are left there there will be hostages. even if he gets away with this

one, he won't get away with the next one which will be china going after taiwan. what will biden's response be? the chinese assume he will just roll over. jackie: kt mcfarland, thank you so much for your time. >> thanks, jackie. jackie: still ahead, biden trying to shift focus to domestic policies but with an end to unemployment benefits for more than seven million americans, will it finally start employers desperate to fill the more than 10 million vacant jobs nationwide? former white house council of economic advisors chairman kevin hassett weighs in when we come back. >> i don't really know what the biden plan is. get government out of the way. let the labor market work and we'll all be better off. and then you and i have to talk about this disasterous tax-and-spend and regulating plan coming down the road which i think is damaging. the whole future out look for the american economy.

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♪. jackie: it's the end to federal unemployment benefits for more than seven million americans. another three million people reportedly expect to lose 300-dollar boost in the state

aid. employers hope it will bring to a end the labor shortage to fill the 10 million jobs nationwide. with me now, former chairman of the coins sieve of economic advisors kevin hassett. great to see you. a dismal jobs report on friday. a little more than 200,000 jobs were added, well below expectations. the administration is standing on its head, saying unemployment benefits, boosters have nothing to do with the fact that people don't want to go back to work. your thoughts? >> we know that is not true because a lot of republican governors expanded insurance benefit, we saw states that did that more people went back to work. you talked about hostages, it feels like jimmy carter's policy and it feels like jimmy carter's policy. the biden administration is attacking businesses, attacking

entrepreneurs, paying people not to work around puzzled there is not labor supply for goods and what happens when supply doesn't keep up with demand inflation takes off. we're seeing highest peaks in the next six months because we're pushing all the cash out to feed demand but doing everything we can to attack supply. it is really a foolish economic policy. not the level of foolishness of afghanistan but it is easy to predict what will happen when you do that sort of mismatch. jackie: on inflation. we're feeling it at the pump, feeling it at the grocery store. going out to eat, clothing, et cetera, administration, fed is all saying it is transitory. i don't think it is transitory, kevin? >> you're exactly right. here is the way to think about it, one of the reasons why people aren't going back to work prices are going up faster than wages. real wages are actually declining as much, wage adjusted for inflation, by as much as it has going back decades.

with real wages declining people are staying out of the labor force. what employers will have to do, they will have to jack up wages to get people out to work. small business administration, nfib found 91% of firms couldn't hire people because they couldn't find any candidates. so those people will have to really jack up wages to get people off the sidelines. when wages go up, the firms will have to raise prices or they will go out of business. we'll get a wage price spiral like we saw in the 70's. ed idea this is temporary inflation is economically undefensible. jackie: states if they want to stop into coffers to expand benefits, a, people they feel need the extra help, how likely, b, the states would exercise the option. the third leg of that question, what would that do to the whole labor problem we're talking about? >> right. what is going to happen you will see, you know, two different worlds of blue world and a red world. reeled america the economy will be booming and unemployment rate

will head back to where it was before covid started. in blue america they will be paying people not to work. taxing the rest of us americans all over the country to finance failed states. so i think it is likely that there will be some places continue very, very rich subsidies for people not to work. those people will be places with really bad economies, and they don't have the tax revenue they expected, so on. as bad as bailouts have been this year if these policies continue, there will be even more of that next year. jackie: final question in the minute we have left, i want to ask but the psychological shift we're seeing in the workforce as well. so many more people working remotely, doing it longer. if we had urged people to go back to work at a certain point, just deal with the virus when we had the vaccine for example, maybe we would be in a different boat. this has gone on for a while. people simply don't want to work the way they used to. don't want to go back to work for wages they used to receive. >> that has been really number one, you hit the nail on the

head, number one economic factor of this year, people are not getting off the sidelines. people are not going back to work. labor force participation is flat. it is not moving up, which is what we would have expected as people got vaccinated. so without more workers it will be really hard to get more out put. without more out put, all the extra cash we put in people's pockets with federal subsidies will just drive prices higher. it is the scariest, most negative looking economy i've seen since jimmy carter's america in the '70s. jackie: i asked the labor secretary on friday about the labor force participation rate, if it would go up, expected it would go up, he essentially told me couldn't forecast that, kevin. so not a good sign. >> right. jackie: great to see you. >> it went up a lot under president trump because we cut taxes and deregulated. jackie: sure did. sure did. urn employment at a 50-year low. we remember what it was like. thank you. up next september looking like a rough month for the democrats, progressives,

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policy agenda in danger as major deadlines loom in washington. fox news's congressional correspondent chad pergram is on capitol hill with the latest for us. chad. reporter: jackie, september is a megamonth for democrats. here's the docket. democrats want to pass both the social spending plan and the infrastructure bill by september 30th. president biden toured the northeast to see areas ravaged by the remnants of a post-tropical ida, and mr. biden used storm to push for passage of the infrastructure bill. >> things that we're going to be able to fix permanently with the, with the bill that we have in for infrastructure. >> how are you going to get democrats to agree on it? >> is the sun going to come out tomorrow? reporter: some gop members will support the infrastructure package but not the $3.5 trillion social spending plan. republicans used their opposition as good politics back home. >> today's national democratic party is a bunch of socialists

and this bill, this 3 1/2 trillion dollar bill is their signature event. reporter: democrats can only lose three members in the news, none in the senate to approve these bills but the afghanistan debacle sapped the president's political capital. his approval rating dipped below 50%. >> problem once you drop under 50%, no one is afraid of you. people within the party are emboldened to take you on and to disagree with you. it is harder to exert control over the party. reporter: however sometimes a crisis actually helps. democrats know down deep they can't hand the president a loss on his domestic agenda. we'll start to get details on the big spending bill thursday and friday. when the ways and means committee begins prepping the bill. one area of contention, whether to include hearing, vision, dental coverage under medicare that will be expensive. jackie? jackie: chad pergram, thank you so much for that. joining me now, former wisconsin

congressman and fox news contributor sean duffy. great to see you tonight. >> thank you, jackie. jackie: always great to have you on the program. start with some of the fractures when we start about the spending. pass aggressive package, sun comes back tomorrow, democrats will agree on this. to me i see he has a lot of crises right now, put out a lot of fires. it feels like he has lost control. your thoughts. >> when you have sinking poll numbers like biden has that translates into races for the house, right? a lot of democrats are in tough house races. they don't want to be on the record voting for a 3 in$.5 trillion spending bill. they want to vote for the trillion dollar infrastructure bill, that is drew, that creates a lot of problems in the house. in the senate we heard joe manchin and krysten sinema indicate 3.5 trillion is too much money. i think they go for something less, 2 trillion, 2.5 trillion. there is no agreement between the moderates in the party around real progressives like aoc and bernie sanders.

how they come together on proposal moving forward with the massive spending, jackie, timeline of a few weeks. jackie: no, absolutely. so the fractures over spending we've got that. abortion, supreme court, size and scoping all the things chad mentioned in the his report. extreme left wants to see radical change. biden made the deal with the devil, took the nomination, said i would represent all of you. he took the sanders votes, the war envotes and now he has to pay the piper. >> 100%. these are bills democrat want to have happen, infrastructure and $3.5 trillion in spending. to make the government function they have to fund the government by the end of september. mate do a continuing resolution, continuing funding at current levels that exist today but that that is coming up. debt limit on the horizon. must-do bills have to pass. republicans say, listen, democrats have not worked with

us, not giving us a seat at table, why would we work with you to fund the government, work with you to raise the debt limit. there is lot of animosity between the parties, republicans and democrats as well as liberals and far left socialists in the democrat party. jackie: that's a serious problem. you're right. the gop has a little bit more power, more leverage than it seems like it does at this point. can democrats push some of this stuff through before the midterms? they know that is the timing, that's the deadline. they got to do it? >> i think they can't but the question comes down to the senate, where is the sinema going to be, where joe manchin is going to be. 3.5 trillion is not likely. but i think the two supports go with smaller number, 2.5 trillion. by the way that is huge number in spending. kevin hassett says we're concerned about inflation, more spending, more borrowing, more printing, will bring us more inflation. i think they get something done. i think they understand if they get the massive spending bill in place, that will change the

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♪. jackie: well, it was another weekend of devastating gun violence in chicago with at least 63 people shot, six fatally, including a four-year-old boy. fox news's mike tobin in chicago with the latest for us. mike. reporter: jackie, like clockwork a holiday weekend has ended in chicago and here we are talking about the shocking bloodshed and innocence continue to get caught in the crossfire. this weekend a four-year-old boy was shot and killed. michael was visiting from

alabama. sitting on the south side in a chair getting his hair braided when a bullet came through the window. michael was declared dead at a children's hospital. they pleaded with the gangsters at center of the bloodshed stay away from the kids. >> you know the life you lead. you know you're being targeted or that you have done something to cause this retribution from some rival gang or some rival person. why are you continuing to be around young people, our children? that's on you. reporter: gunfire is concentrated but not limited to the south and west side where the gang population is greatest. violence recently spilled over to lincoln park and river north neighborhoods. this weekend there was gunfire at one of the selling points of chicago, the lake front running, cycling path along lakeshore drive a 28-year-old man was sitting on the path near expensive apartments and hotels overlooking lake michigan when he was shot in the buttocks. unclear if he was targeted or hit by a stray bullet. they don't know hot gunman was.

the victim's wounds are not life-threatening. jackie, back to you. jackie: thank you so much, mike. turn to kids starting school in person across the country but rising covid cases are plaguing the return to classrooms with uncertainty. even a cnn panel blasted the biden administration, you know it's bad on sunday for getting ahead of the science on booster shots saying that americans are getting frustrated by the while house messaging. take a listen to this. >> delays could be minimal but it is raising some concerns about the white house influence over scientific decisions. >> talking to voters recently it is clear that covid is still something that people care about. it is also clear they're very frustrated by what seem to be changing goal post. >> no question people feel jerked around. everyone understands conditions changed a lot. but at the same time there has been a clear inability to communicate clearly and consistently with the american people. jackie: with me now is

representative and doctor greg murphy. congressman, great to see you. president biden, he said that booster shot would be available to the public by september 20th but you've got the fda, a little caught off-guard by this saying you know, let's hold back here. we're not necessarily sure we have the data to be conclusive we need to do this right at this moment. your response to that? >> yeah you know, jackie, when the biden administration came out several weeks ago and reported it would push the booster shot, immediately next day, several scientific organizations including the w.h.o. which i can't say i agree with all the time came out and lambasted the decision. the great criticism occurred with the trump administration, quote, follow the science. unfortunately the biden administration has been anything but. they have been following the political science of the true science about the booster shots are not quite there. if we need them, by god do it. but with the science, rather than political posturing. >> i want to switch gears talking about getting back to

school, getting people, parents back to work, part of this has to do with masking protocols. there has been a lot of debate about that, whether helpful, harmful to the children when we need it. if the children are vaccinated. so many different arguments. "the washington examiner" is essentially saying biden can pick a fight he could win right now. this is one he could win. he is picking on the states that want to lose the mask policies for kids, talking about iowa, oklahoma, south carolina, tennessee and utah. is it in the childrens best interests medically to wear the masks or not and should it be the parents choice? >> well, jackie i think the science honestly we're talking about following the science is all over on this, on this particular topic. if you look at the european countries they don't require the kids under 12 to mask at all. their results are fine. they're doing very, very well. you have some papers that say yes but you also have to look at what is the bottom line? what is the bottom line to all of this?

kept our kids out of school for a year. we have to get our kids back in school to do this. do they have to do it with a mask? do they have to do it without a mask? i personally don't like these mandates. i don't know that the science tells us that. the good and fortunate thing is kids under 12 universally do very, very well if exposed to the virus. do paper masks, cloth masks do anything about this? i think science on that is very, very weak. n-95s do. you won't get a six-year-old to wear a n95 mask. this decision should be made locally. jackie: talking to kevin hassett before. you talk about getting everybody back into school. time to do it. we were talking about the extension of the unemployment benefits. people are delaying this back to work. we cannot afford as a nation to delay anymore. we have to figure out a way to live with this virus. we have the delta variant. the mu variant. there will be other variants. we have to find a way to exist in this prism.

>> we do, jackie, because we can't sit there and hide, shelter in place. we can't do it anymore. this delta variant is real. i was a physician, just in our icus hour 1/2 ago. it is real. it is affecting a different population than it was before. it is real. it is taking people's lives. that said we can't stop living. we have to go to school and go to work. i'm tired of people making excuses not to go to work. our nurses doctors can go to work. stop the world for making excuses to get back into a environment where we all can survive. jackie: to your point, you talk about vaccine, you get the vaccine, chance of being hospitalized, chance of dying from a breakthrough case is a lot less. we urge people to get vaccinated to get back out there. final word. >> thank you so much, jackie. take care. final word, we talk about the vaccines themselves. side-effect the of the vaccines compared to side-effects from

having covid are markedly, markedly less. i think people should get vaccinated. >> thank you so much for that congressman murphy. good to see you. >> take care. jackie: still ahead on "the evening edit," backlash with more cities and statesman dating workers to get the covid vaccine. that is what we were talking about. leading fears that the mandates could lead to a ilk per shortage of workers. "the hill"'s kristin tate weighs in. >> some people should clearly get vaccinated. they're at risk. the benefits outweigh the risks of the vaccine from them. not everybody is identical. doesn't matter, force is their only response. with barely a bobble. with usaa safepilot, when you drive safe... ...you can save up to 30% on your auto insurance. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. get a quote today.

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are already struggling to fill positions. critics are questioning whether this is the right move and if more mandates could lead to a massive shortage of workers? grady trimble in chicago with more for us. grady. reporter: jackie, mayor lori lightfoot called the vaccine a condition of employment for city workers, indicating if you don't get the shot you could get fired. the mandate from the city includes police, firefighters and paramedics. presidents for both first-responders unions have pushed back against the requirement. the president for the chicago federation of labor is pushing back as well saying we believe in the benefits of vaccination to help protect workers and residents but we do not believe punitive mandates are the right path to significantly increase vaccine up take. in fact, we believe this announcement may harden opposition to the vaccine rather than protect workers.

there is blow back with school drivers. 90 quit up to the start of the school year. that left up 2100 students with no ride. parents are scrambling about. that is an industry already experiencing a worker shortage. jackie. jackie: grady trimble thank you for that. for more on the subject let's bring in "the hill" columnist, kristin tate. great to see you. we had a bump with tucker carlson getting the vaccine and some people have legitimate reasons not to get it. the issue isn't that, but does the government or the business have a right to force you get to the vaccine or should it be an individual choice? your thoughts. we're dealing with a labor shortage already. people mandated to get the vaccine, they don't want to get it, we'll have a bigger problem on our hand. >> that is exactly right. protecting the broader public from a vaccine a noble goal and everyone has medical privacy. everyone has different risk

factors. people's ages affect how sick they get. some people have gotten covid and may have antibodies that protect them getting a vaccine. look at certain industries so desperate for workers around these kinds of mandates could really harm the industries. look at police departments around the country. look at seattle. seattle's police department has been gutted over the past year-and-a-half because of budget cuts and radical left defund the police movement. now they're saying that the cops in seattle will have to submit to vaccine mandates. a significant portion of the force is saying they don't want to do that. well even if a small percentage of the cops leave the force, it is going to leave that department in an even worse position than it already is. nearly 300 cops have already quit since the beginning of last year. so you know, this could have all kinds of impacts on public safety, violent crime and just our workforce in general. jackie: sure. kristin, i want to get your take

on this. in conversations i have with folks, they love to use the argument, well if your child is going to school, they get the polio vaccine, measles, mumps ruble last, hepatitis-b. not with schools specific because kids are too young for the vaccines. what is wrong with mandating vaccines, your thought? >> i think a lot of people want more time to see what happens with the vaccines. the vaccines are so new. we know that children don't generally get very sick from covid-19. of course the staff at these schools, if they feel more comfortable getting vaccinated should absolutely do so to protect themselves but right now the data shows children are not high-risk of getting very sick or hospitalized from covid. many parents i have out there i talked to, they're not anti-vaccine. they simply want more time to see what long term side-effects of vaccines may be. perhaps down the road when we have the data -- jackie: make that decision. >> correct. jackie: okay, final point,

florida wants to issue 5,000-dollar fines for businesses or schools who do ask for proof of the covid vaccine. your reaction to that? >> i mean, thank goodness we have a leader in florida who is pro-choice and pro-freedom and i would say that you know, ron desantis, he is not anti-vax seen. he is just for everyone's choice as to what they're putting into their bodies. i am fully vaccinated but i don't feel the need to have to you know go to places that make everyone else show that they're vaccinated too. once you're vaccinated, you're reprotected. people deserve to have the choice what medicines they're taking. we need more governors to step up to be bold like ron desantis. >> bring up a good point, kristin. i always tell people, i got vaccinated for myself so i wouldn't end up in the hospital myself or dead through a breakthrough case. i hope it helps the rest of the community. number one i did it for me. kristin, thank you so much.

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for 34 years as a federal employee and this is the worst i've ever seen it. using the policy or revoking this policy in january is what they did that is the root cause of what's going on at the border, they can talk all they long at root causes and working with the northern triangle but the root cause is reversing the policy for remain in mexico. they took all the enrollees and let them in the united states and released many of them so more will come the caravan that forms now they're trying to break into mexico and we will see more of that because the incentive is really high the border patrol is distracted because the families and young children so they're not patrolling the border as effectively as they could if they have these tools if the traffic was much lower because of the protection protocol put in place in 2019 which ended the search in this surge started again in january because of the religion of that policy and that decision.

>> to me and this points out the glaring hypocrisy of this a administration the root causes reversing the trump policy now they said they had inherited the problem for president trump that's why they were doing something about it, they were taking his policy and trying to reenact it and it's gone so out of control. >> and if people wanted to process or asylum process and wait in mexico that's a better way to do it. before the surgeon 2014 we close that loop but now the migrant protection protocol is a way for people to pursue their claims and due process but wait in mexico to do it not be released into the united states. what we know about that population a gets released after cbp and border patrol. they'll never show up to pursue it into seek relief. >> my understanding from what i

read and there's not that much known about this, you have to wait in mexico for that date will give you better living conditions and we might give you access to an attorney at that point, who's paying for that part of it. >> obviously it will be the taxpayers for the remainder mexico policy and the migrant protection protocols for them to work mexico has to cooperate. they have to use their own asylum system and their own public health resources in their own migrant protection inside the country. >> they are not going to pick. >> right that should be a concern for all of us. but the policy reduce the flow to such a degree in the frontline dhs, take the stress off of them with the humanity at the border and take the stress

off of them and their families under the time of this pandemic. it's important to recognize how it works in this administration is coming around to give those tools back to cbp of the board of ritual. >> to think it's possible now that the floodgates have been open. in the last minute that we have is this abiding administration saying look what were trained to do, but it's not working, that kind of thing. >> the court has told them they had to put it back together and they had to reinstate the previous policy in the rulemaking process so we will see it's good to take a commitment for this administration from mexico and hold them to account as well and i hope they give the full strength because it did work and it makes the border safer for everybody lives there and works

there. >> we have to see this a administration see it through and enforce their own policy and how long the timeline will implement as well. it's great to see you, we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. i'm jackie deangelis and for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us, thank you for watching and have a good evening. ♪ ♪ ♪. larry: hello everyone welcome to cuddle, and they recut the. we begin, what did they hide in when did they hide in. he democratic committees house ways and means and senate finance are marking up massive unheard of spending and taxing plans right now. as we speak. but they're not telling the public what they're really up to. so the answer to what do they hide and when did they hide it, they're hiding in right