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be prepared for emotional testimony.s, that will be an interesting trial. that does it for usor on fox business tonight, thank you for watching. meanwhile the "evening edit" starts right now, good night everybody. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: big story in dc, and wall street, whether the biden agenda is blocked after white house botched afghanistan,ta lawmakers warn it is botching the rescue of americans there too. secretary of state, says that yes taliban is blocking the charter flights with americans trying to leave afghanistan. and reports coming in china moving to occupy bagram airbase that the white house
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surrendered. challenging track record. all of this ahead of the 20th anniversary of 9/11 this week. joining us tonight, senator bill hagerty, dr. omar hadad, michael burgess, steve forbes, vince collagnese, former nypd lieutenant. he is darren porcher and arizona attorney general mark brnovich. angry voters heckling the president on tour of hurricane damage. he is moving on to a covid speech to rescue his plunging approval ratings now hitting record lows nationwide. we have a preview of his speech. top democrats say no to nancy pelosi and chu racing to ram through fast as they can. historic spending and tax hikes without reading the bills first. because democrats face losing control of congress. and tonight, more newly revealed government documents strengthen the case that dr. anthony fauci
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did mislead under oath. and stonewalled congress by denying that u.s. did fund lethal super virus research in china. dr. fauci for giving not so state of the art information about covid-19. plus tonight, that oklahoma doctor at the center of that firestorm that the media botched reporting on, about ivermectin overdoses supposedly swamping hospitals in oklahoma. that same doctor now says that msnbc, the media, they got it wrong. update on even more democrats asking where is the president on border security as afghanistan collapses? look at this surprising reporting out of "the new york times." that white house officials are secretly happy and relieved that the supreme court did reinstate former president trump's remain in mexico policy. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald.
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"the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. we come to the show. you're watching the fox business network. we begin tonight in afghanistan. the taliban announcing the inauguration ceremony for its new government. we have reports coming in, it is potentially could occur on the date of 20th anniversary of 9/11. they invited china, russia, iran, pakistan to attend of the government includes former gitmo detainees and interior minister who is on the fbi's most wanted legs. the gop saying that the afghan terror state is stronger now than before 9/11. hundreds of americans and our afghan allies still stranded in afghanistan unable to evacuate. trey yingst in qatar with more. trey. reporter: liz, the taliban has named a new caretaker government and we're learning more about the individuals appointed to lead the cabinet.
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okoun is the new prime minister of afghanistan. on the u.n. terror watch list along with other cabinet members. interior of the ministry are haqqani has a 10 million-dollar bounty on his head for thinks involvement in a hotel attack in 2008 and assassination attempt on former president of afghanistan. the make up of this new government will be very difficult for the united states to engage directly with, especially as you have the final americans still looking to get to safety. a leaked email overnight that charter flights are not being granted permission to land at u.s. air bases or other third party locations. important context here the state department has a reason for acting this way. according to senior u.s. official, there is no way to verify who is on the flights and the taliban is in control of security. anyone boarding a flight from afghanistan, specifically the airport in mazar-i-sharif is only being vetted by the taliban. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken addressed this today while in germany blaming the
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taliban for the flights not taking off. appears you have two issues here. the taliban not having flights taking off because they're looking for proper documentation, and the united states not letting flights take off because they can't check passenger. elizabeth: thank you, trey yingst. we have senator bill hagerty, former u.s. army special flight surgeon, dr. omar hamad back with us. latest outrage, the secretary of state called on the taliban to step charter flights with rescued americans and afghans. they downplayed the issue days before. your reaction? >> liz, this is frustrated. what we created in afghanistan we created a cauldron of terror. taliban control the city and the taliban control the state. we need to do every last american out and everything within our power to do that what
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happened we handed control to a terrorist organization. they're fulfilling their plan to put in place their own government. they targeted the same date, joe biden had targeted, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of 9/11 with very different results. now we have a armed taliban, much more dangerous than ever before. we are in a worse position than we were 20 years ago. we have to address this now. elizabeth: to the senator's point, doctor, secretary blinken down plays people in the taliban government, calling them quote, people with challenging track records. they are jihadis. they are in a generational flight against the u.s. and western values around the world. they are in it for the long game. does this rhetoric feel like unserious? i want to quote back to you, he was asked on the by msnbc, are they the enemy? he said it is hard to put a label on it. >> this is lunacy.
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i can't believe we're where we are on the 20th anniversary of 9/11 and everything we've been through. to make the taliban our partners and allies is ludicrous. we cannot vet people on the ground. we know hundreds of americans are trapped on the ground that we abandoned there. this administration prevented them from leaving. we can vet them when they land if they're not appropriate we can send them right back. we don't need to waste time, drag our feet, risk their lives to put them in mortal danger by making excuses and waiting. elizabeth: what the doctor was just saying, it feels like deeply unserious rhetoric, senator. feels like we're back in 1998 when the clinton administration was warned about this. remember in 1993 the world trade center attack was a warm-up to 2001. we had no personal assets on the ground. the state department conceded they needed taliban authorization to let americans go. watch this. >> without personnel on the ground we can't verify the
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accuracy of manifests, the identities of passengers, flight plans or aviation security protocals. so this is a challenge. elizabeth: a challenge? seriously? why didn't they understand that ahead of time, senator, when everyone else in the country did? now he says this after they pulled out troops first? did they think it would be like working with the dmv of afghanistan who arrested u.s. citizens? there is no paperwork there. our citizens and allies are left behind terror lines. your reaction, senator? >> my reaction is what i her from our allies in the uk and brussels this past weekend when i was there meeting with our allies, talking to them about their frustration to the situation. they emphasized to me, what we happened we allowed the calendar to drive our conditions rather than the conditions on the ground. we should have never evacuated our military before we had our american citizens out. what we have had is loss of american lives. we may be looking at the biggest hostage crisis in modern history. we've had now a diminishment of
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america's reputation across the world. elizabeth: you know, to the senator's point experts warn afghanistan is an even bigger hub for terror than before 9/11 and doctor, now you see china moving to occupy bagram airbase which the administration surrendered. china wants to use bagram airbase as hub for its big belt and road initiative to take over the world's infrastructure. pakistan reportedly helping china here. your reaction, doctor? >> that is no surprise at all, liz. one reason we were over there and in several countries like uzbekistan, and tajikistan was establish a footprint to help check china as they grew and got more aggressive. the fact we have given all these up, every single airbase back to native countries as well as china and several billion dollars in u.s. armaments and top military secrets is unbelievable and i can't believe that our military strategists
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approved this kind of plan. elizabeth: senator, americans don't feel safe. polls show that. they find the rhetoric deeply unserious for nancy pelosi to call this and president to call this an extraordinary success of what happened in afghanistan but, senator, now is this true, democrats are blocking republican demands for investigations into afghanistan? we're talking alexandria ocasio-cortez, rashida tlaib, cori bush and ayana pressley. is that true. >> i have heard reports but doesn't surprise me because they don't want to investigate this because it is enormously embarrassing to the biden administration. what we find out, domestic politics, put press releases ahead of conditions on the ground. what they have driven for is another messaging opportunity. joe biden wanted to celebrate the fact on 20th anniversary of 9/11 he was the president that brought american troops home. instead he precipitate addition sasster of incredible proportion. not only left americans behind
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enemy lines but left our allies behind enemy lines too. he has made it difficult for us to gain confidence of our allies and put china in a prime position. when we controlled bagram we were a thorn in the china's side now bagram will be a crown of the belt and road system. elizabeth: senator makes a good point. representative mike gallagher is agreeing with what the senator is saying. watch this. >> surrender didding bagram, pulling out military assets before we gotten every american citizen out of the country will go down as one of the worst foreign policy mistakes in the history of the united states foreign policy. so this president to add insult to injury has been lying to the american people for two weeks. he said al qaeda has been decimated in afghanistan. not true. he said our allies didn't have concerns with the way this has been conducted. not true. he said americans weren't having trouble getting to the airport. obviously we left hundreds if
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not thousands of them behind. so that was a massive lie. elizabeth: doctor, your reaction? >> these past two weeks decisions from the president and this administration has irreparably damaged the united states not just in reputation, demolished trust other countries have for us, abandoned allies and other american lives on the ground but emboldened and empowered every single enemy of the united states of america for years to come. i don't know how we fix this. elizabeth: again the jihadis are in the long game. sounds like our sound bites are for short political purposes. the american people see through that, they feel very unsafe. bill hagerty, omar hamada thanks for being on. up next congressman michael burgess on more newly revealed government documents. critics say it strengthens the case that dr. fauci did in fact lie under oath. he misled and stonewalled congress by denying that the u.s. was in fact funding lethal
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scientists say you do not need this research for vaccine and drugs. what do you say? >> it is troubling that the research apparently was funded by the nih and probably even more disturbing it was funded in a country with whom we have an occasional adversarial relationship. it is hard to see how anyone how the this would work out well but, i've been trying to get my hand on the 900 page report. the nih owes the committee of jurisdiction, our committee, energy and commerce, subcommittee of oversight and explanation owes us an explanation of material they provided to "the intercept." i hope that happens quickly. in fact several months ago in may, before the administration, before president biden announced he would do an internal investigation of the origins of the wuhan lab leak, we were promised a hearing in the energy and commerce committee by the chairwoman of the subcommittee on oversight and investigations
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and we're still waiting. the administration report has been turned in. it was inconclusive. we need to have that hearing. >> why are the democrats blocking this? they look so deeply unserious about this when more than 650,000 americans are now dead from a pandemic? do we need a special counsel for this? because remember, dr. fauci vehemently denied funding gain of function research to senator rand paul during testimony earlier this year saying senator paul was wrong. senator paul says the new documents show he was right. "the washington post" says it was $50 million went out the door from nih, naid. that is why it was a problem. china was using multiple labs reports show of the labs have a history of leaking. china was accrediting on its own these were biosafety level four labs. they weren't. they don't have the proper safety protocols. we're talking they are trying to weaponize, make airborne things
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like ebola. one contract with the wuhan lab shows the nih-aid, did demand a detailed description what they were doing for his approval. why is denying this to congress? why is he stonewalling? >> you know, that is a question he needs to answer. look, dr. fauci is no stranger to congressional committees. he knows how to do this. he knows how to testify. he needs to come before our committee of energy and commerce and certainly be welcomed to tell his side of the story but also at the same time we need the documents that the intertent has received from nih to be able to formulate the correct questions and to delve into the correct information but right now what we're left with is a back and forth that has not been helpful. and to answer your first question why are the democrats, you put it very well unserious
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about this investigation? i can't answer that question for you. i hope they will answer that question but the fact of the matter remains they seem intent on spending 3 1/2 trillion dollars with no hearings or oversight. at the same time we should be suspending that, getting on with the investigation of how was our country so badly harmed. elizabeth: congressman, you make an important point. why do we need foia documents to get at information that the u.s. taxpayer is paying for, that affects u.s. taxpayer, where u.s. taxpayers are being abused here? why isn't the white house declassifying this? we're talking about "the washington post" story too found that dr. fauci and the nih director were undercutting an oversight panel inside the nih responsible for oversight of this giving themselves the veto power over what that oversight body was doing secretly and defining on their own, dr. fauci was defining what gain of function virus research really means. they were making it up on the fly so they could avoid
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accountability. final word, congressman. >> that is an important point and i think dr. fauci's defense, no this was looked at up and down the chain but i'm sorry that is not good enough. we'll need to have the actual, precise lab requests or i'm sorry the research requests that were submitted and in fact we need to know what the oversight board at his own agency said. elizabeth: why are we outsourcing it to china? congressman michael burgess. thanks for joining us. up next steve forbes on president biden and pelosi and senator schumer facing a loss of control in congress, potentially losing the house next year just as democrats lost the house under clinton and obama. why? because they're looking deeply more unserious by the day, about the massive tax-and-spend headaches they want to hit you with. senator manchin says no, i'm not going to vote for 2/3 of the 3 1/2 trillion dollars that they want. reports that neither of them themselves have, know, have not
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they were yelling and heckling the president when he was touring the area. they're angry over how he botched afghanistan. watch this. >> [bleep] you ruined the american people. lies [bleep] leave americans behind. [bleep] we should leave you behind, you guys. you guys behind. >> stop it. >> leave no american behind. >> ronald is buried in arlington, 2011. december 11. for what? he lost his life for what? , for what? >> people who stand on the other side of the fences who don't live there -- elizabeth: okay. so he is saying that they don't live there. he saying that they're upset about his actions on climate change. did he take a poll and ask them if they lived there? that is their response. they are upset. what do you say? >> a lot of people saw the visits unfortunately more for
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photo-ops than take away attention from debacle in afghanistan then genuine concern what is happening in new jersey and elsewhere. he could have made visits even sooner he is on full bore. talking about unions, this, that, other things, take away the focus on one of the greatest debacles in american history. elizabeth: steve, the president plans another covid speech tomorrow. they're going to talk about more testing, more mandates. it is all to stop his plunging approval ratings. this all feels so desperately out of up to, steve what they're planning. the president's approval rating dropping towards 40%. below where obama and clinton stood at this point. democrats lost control of congress in a big way back under obama and clinton with numbers like this. is this why pelosi and schumer are slamming, trying to slam through, race to the finish line to slam through the biden agenda right now? >> absolutely. i think nancy pelosi, speaker pelosi, recognizes she is going
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to lose, the democrats will lose next year in the house of representatives. therefore she wants to go in the sunset because she knows will be stepping down passed four new major entitlements and major expansions of medicare, medicaid, obamacare who knows what else, electric cars and the like. maybe that is why they want to ram it through. they figure okay, they lost in 2010, but by golly they kept obamacare in place. so they may lose this time but they will trial up in terms of policy. that is why it is so important on that so-called 3 1/2 trillion dollar bill which we know is really 6 or 7 trillion, they don't put in these entitlements. numbers don't count. what counts if they put in the entitlements, they can start them at one dollar, within years they will be tens of billions, hundreds of billions of dollars. substance of those bills that count, not the numbers they proffer out there. elizabeth: steve, that is an important point you made, it is hard to get red i have
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entitlements once enacted? >> absolutely. what joe manchin said in the essay is so important. all the entitlements should be done after careful debate, review, discussion, not rammed through on quick budget bill that they want to do in a matter of days or weeks. these should be done over months. that is why they want to ram it through. i hope manchin and others, senator manchin and others keep their backbone, say no on these entitlements, no on these expansions. they should be treated as separate bills, properly debated. elizabeth: steve, feels like americans may not see what the democrats are doing is historic. they're doing war-time level ever spending and tax hikes when we're at a war on terror but this usually see like something after world war ii. we have a new poll from zogby analytics, show one in five democrats regret voting for joe biden. he is weakened right here. makes him harder to pressure
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democrats to get in lyne to do his massive spending when top democrats like senator manchin saying you know what? i will vote against 2/3 of the 3 1/2 trillion dollar spending package that pelosi schumer want. reports are coming in they don't know what is in the tax-and-spend packages. they haven't red it. what do you say? >> that is absolutely true. you get such crazy things in the bills no one knows what is in them even after they're passed, weeks and months afterwards. people comb through like archaeological site and find strange artifacts stuffed into these bills. hopefully senator manchin, senator sinema and others will say no, and state no, not let them pass the things with fake low numbers, knowing what was going to happen down the road. the tax increases we know would destroy this economy and give us what we haven't seen since the 1970s. that is rising prices and a stagnant economy. they used to call stating nation. this will be stagflation ii.
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elizabeth: steve forbes, great to see you on again. love having you on. sure. we're coming out of the bottom of the hour now. you're watching the fox business network. up next vince collagnese. he is fired up. we're watching a msnbc report that florida governor ron desantis is misinformed about covid-19. that is not the debate, msnbc, you're wrong. we'll explain what ron desantis is talking about. we'll explain how ron desantis the governor is taking out dr. fauci not giving out not so state-of-the-art information about covid-19. remember the oklahoma doctor at center of the controversy the media botched about ivermectin overdoses? he is saying the media got it wrong. the story next. >> i don't know why anyone believes what dr. fauci
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♪. jo. elizabeth: joining us now, talk show host, "daily caller" editor, vince collagnese. >> thank you. >> msnbc anchors, "rolling stone" magazine, daily koss, "newsweek," touted the story of a doctor in oklahoma claiming hospitals were overflowing with covid-19 patients overdosing on the drug ivermectin. the same doctor at the center of the firestorm says the media got it wrong. what do you say? >> it was too good to check. they ran wit. they confirmed their bias about the stories. same media outlets ran the phony story, americans being stupid, poisoning themselves with drug they shouldn't be taking, didn't cover intensity at all, the revelations that dr. anthony fauci clearly had a hand in gain of function research in china,
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documents obtained this week by the out let, "the intercept." no coverage of that. serious news stories that matter to americans, they don't uncover them. unserious stories, that cover their biases they cover those. elizabeth: one source story. the doctor at center of it. he is not a hospital worker. didn't treat any overdoses. employee after staffing agency that staffs emergency departments in hospitals. only seen a handful of ivermectin in oklahoma hospitals. some added to them there yeah, but poison control is not hearing calls that we're being poisoned with ivermectin. they received a dozen maybe. they rolled on the story that the hospitals were so overrun. the issue is single source stories. that is what the media goes with. your reaction? >> this is a problem throughout the media. we call this derivative
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journalism. it is not really journalism. it is basically a quote given to a local news out let where a bunch of other places call themselves news outlets, misinterpret it, send it out to the public. this same group of people routinely attacks the american public, consuming misinformation they read on facebook and their friends and family are sharing. the truth is the american media is the source of some of the most dangerous information that they cook up. elizabeth: we saw in a headline in msnbc, that florida governor ron desantis is misinformed of covid-19. he is the governor. he is concerned and i knows the scope of this virus. what he is talking about is having government workers harass families in his state. he doesn't want that. let's watch the florida governor hitting back at dr. fauci for misinformation over things like vaccine mandates and herd immunity.
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watch this. >> what i said was if you're going to force vaccine mandates on people, just understand that what the data is showing us about the vaccine. the data is showing us you're much less likely to hospitalize or die if your vaccinated. the vaccinations have not created herd immunity. so the idea is that having herd immunity you force everyone to do this, that will create herd immunity. that has not happened. fauci also said it if 50% were vaccinated you would not see any surges anymore. that isn't true. >> i don't want biomedical security state in which we're constantly having to do this just to be able to live everyday life. at the end of the day the vaccine has helped people ward off severe illness, very hard to distribute it. at the end of the day though it is what somebody, your health whether you want that protection
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or not. elizabeth: are reporters and journalists covering fully what governor desantis is saying? >> no. they make him out to be the villain. the difference here between ron desantis and dr. fauci is that ron desantis treats voters like they're in charge. dr. fauci treats them like they're children who work for him. we've seen that throughout the pandemic. obviously it is two different visions of the way this country should be run. dr. fauci has been caught on the record by his own acknowledgement lying multiple times including to "the new york times." he said he intentionally was changing herd immunity thresholds based on public polling. he remains the highest paid employee in the entire federal government. ron desantis has not only dr. fauci to push back against, much of the american news media. elizabeth: it is astonishing how much people need to get correct information and it feels, it is disturbing that some instances they don't get that information. vince collagnese. always good to have you on. up next former nypd lieutenant,
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what do you say? >> i think this is a catastrophic failure. vice president kamala harris is the poster child of the radical left. when we look at that agenda it is putting criminals ahead of law-abiding citizens. this is an example of why california governor gavin newsom is losing his shirt in the wake of the recall election in california. radical left is driving this narrative. no in way, shape or form should we have a fund to bail out people for committing crimes in society. this is a classic reflection of the failures in government in places like california as well as minnesota. elizabeth: so, lieutenant, it just feels like it went south on the vice president when she was candidate to tout this fund. again it is the minnesota freedom fund. she tweeted it out, says here is a link you can use to donate to this minnesota freedom fund but local media inside of minnesota is reporting that this bailout fund has been used to bailout
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rapists, kidnappers and murderers. can the vice president, or any candidate see that ahead of time, that this may go bad on them? >> absolutely. remember the vice president was the attorney general for california. so she better than anyone else knows and understands the potential or the propensity of people bailing out to come back into the society to reoffend. therefore from a practitioner based model she should have known better. unfortunately the hours escaped. they're trying to close the gate but it is too late. we have the reoffenders back out in society t was a windfall for that bailout fund to have then candidate kamala harris support it. they raised millions of dollars, lieutenant, just on the order of hundreds of thousands or so was used to bail out protesters and rioters. so your reaction to that?
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also the democrats defund the police movement has been collapsing nationwide too. take both of those issues on. >> well the second piece, the defund police movement, you clearly saw catastrophic failures resulting in a lot of the democrats losing in these down ballot elections n connection with the funding for people that have committed these crimes, this bail fund so to speak, it clearly was a miss and they are really eating their words as a result moving forward. elizabeth: lieutenant, when the riots and protests were happening last year, people were focusing on what cops were doing with individuals in their custody. they were very emotional about that. they were upset about it. but they weren't hearing was the deep problems of having their minority and immigrant communities attacked and savaged by rioters and looters. now you hear crickets, you hear
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nothing about defund the police nationwide t was a big push for this going up until last fall. where does this lead going forward? >> be careful what you wish for because you may get it. we saw defunding police was a colossal failure. look at a place like new york city, for example. what is so unfortunate the manhattan district attorney stopped prosecuting cases against rioters, however continued to prosecute police officers for protecting citizenship. it's a travesty in play in connection with this defund police movement and this funding to bail out rioters is an absolute catastrophic failure. we clearly see the results. that is when it relates to the crickets that we hear because we see failures in government moving forward. elizabeth: lieutenant porcher, thanks for your service to our country. come back soon. good to see you. up next, arizona attorney general mark brnovich, even more democrats are asking where is the president on border security
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elizabeth: back with us now, arizona attorney general mark brnovich. sir, it's great to have you bakken on. we have homeland security officials warning that the white house is rushing the processing of afghan refugees, that corners are being cut. what are you hearing? are you worried about this? >> well, we're obviously worried about it, liz, because border security is national security. when you look at the catastrophe in afghanistan, there are literally tens of thousands of people that haven't been vetted. we know as a fact that 2-4,000 people have been failed to properly been vetted are right now in the heart of europe in a place that the e.u. doesn't even recognize as a state. so the biden administration is sending a clear signal to the world that if you are a failed state or you're a terrorist,
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we're not going to do anything to stop you from coming across our southern border. and it's, quite frankly, become more dangerous to be an ally of the united states than our adversary. it's very, very sad, and think about this, liz. if one terrorist comes across our border, people on the terror watch list, just one, think about how much damage they can do to this country. elizabeth: the positioning should be that the jihadis play the long game. we shouldn't be about short political sound bites for the efficacy of winning back your seat in washington d.c. let's move on to this separate story. a new york times story indicates and shows, it's reporting, "the new york times" is saying, that even white house democrats found biden's border policies were so disastrous that white house officials are secretly relieved and happy that the supreme court ordered them to reinstate trump's remain in mexico policies. the border crossings have hit
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historic highs. your take on even white house officials happy about that, about the reinstating remain in mexico. >> it shows the intellectual dishonesty of the biden administration. you know, leadership, there's an old saying, is all about what you do in a time of crisis. and what the biden administration has done and allies in the congress like chuck schumer and cartel kelly, they have advocated control of our southern border to the cartels. i'm guessing there are some people in the administration that are afraid to make tough decisions that know, they're seeing the intelligence, the data, they know objectively, it's a fact, hardened criminals, dangerous people, people convicted of violent crimes and people on the terror watch list have been apprehended. a record amount of fentanyl's coming into this country. this is going to be a disaster not just here in arizona, not along the southern border, but all over the united states. i think they know that. if anybody looks at it objectively, they know the biden
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administration is making this a more dangerous place. and i think they're relieved the supreme court bailed them out. but at the end of the day, it just e epitomizes why so many people are frustrated with congress. they care more about their political futures than protecting america. elizabeth: so what you're just saying is we have even now democrats breaking away from the white house and demanding that the administration do more to secure border. watch the laredo, texas, mayor, a democrat, demanding a smart wall. watch another texas democrat lawmaker say biden is ruining the border. watch this. >> my understanding that the president would grant with a virtual wall or a smart wall containment, but with we haven't seen those elements, and it's just getting worse. we want the border to exist. >> i only pray that the nation
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does not control its border, when a nation cannot define its border, it's ceases to be a nation, and right now we do not control our border. elizabeth: texas democrats saying that. mark, i need to ask you this, texas is moving with money, billions of dollars to secure its border. will arizona do the same? >> we should, liz, because this isn't an issue of left versus right, it's a fundamental issue of right versus wrong. you look at this objectively, this is a huge concern. it's going to be a concern because of the hard listened criminals, because of the terrorists coming aloss, and if joe biden -- across, and if joe biden won't do his job, we need to step up because the biden administration won't. they've shown a total disregard for the public health and safety -- elizabeth: so arizona's going to spend money to enforce the border -- >> i'm the attorney general. i'll do everything i can, but
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yes, we should. we should. elizabeth: mark brnovich, thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. we hope you have a good evening and join us again tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ ♪ larry: hello, everyone. welcome to "kudlow," i'm march key kudlow. larry kudlow. the new afghanistan government is populated by terrorists, four of them released from guantanamo baby the obama administration back in 2014 in exchange for an admitted u.s. army deserter, bowe bergdahl. i'm not going to

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