the market is still in green territory, dow up 30, nasdaq up 30. let me remind you, everybody, don't forget to send in your "friday feedback" stuff. varney viewers, foxbusiness.com. you might get mentioned on the air. you never know your luck. you might see yourself if well we select your input. my time is up. neil cavuto. it is yours. neil: more on what president biden will outline at 5:00 p.m. eastern time today. he will announce all but federal mandates for vaccines, at least for federal workers. he is strongly encouraging, some might be interpreting strong-arming businesses to force the issue. to that we should let you know microsoft is definitely postponing its return to u.s. offices for workers citing the spike in covid cases, particularly out west. that is most of where microsoft offices are housed.

it is the latest of big companies to say, forget about pushing things back a few weeks or months. try in to the new year. we're following all of those developments here. what the president might outline in a few hours. edward lawrence with more. hey, edward? reporter: president will talk about a new pronged approach to deal with the coronavirus delta variant. some of this we have heard before but this is how white house press secretary jen psaki described it yesterday. >> there will be new components, sure will impact people across the country but we're all working together to get the virus under control, to return to our normal lives and i know many people i'm sure are looking forward to hearing what the president has to say. reporter: now through executive order the president is expected to announce that all federal workers and federal government contractors need to get vaccinated there will be no testing as an option. he will push for more private

companies to make the same mandates for their workers. the administration prepared to roll out booster shots on september 20th. the world health organization says it is unnecessary when countries struggle for their first shot. sources at the cdc felt that the white house got ahead of itself because the moating to discuss the need for the shots is three days prior, september 17th. some doctors agree. take a listen. >> i think the administration got ahead of itself. i think it is important to be proactive because we may need to boosters down the line t has to be a data driven evidence of clinical erosion of prosection from disease. that is why when administration announced that, there was pushback from the medical community because we hadn't seen the clinical data. reporter: president will call for more resources to keep schools open. to increase testing and mask requirements. he will make the point if we handle covid we could have a better economic recovery.

neil? neil: edward, thank you very much. let's go to capitol hill, chad pergram because this is part of a mix of developments that both the house and senate have to crunch and consider, including new funding efforts, emergency funding efforts the president outlined last couple days, 3 trillion-dollar package, 3 1/2 trillion dollar human infrastructure package. they all have to take off from the runway at the same time. how is it looking, chad? reporter: good afternoon, neil. multiple house committees are crafting the specifics of the 3 trillion-dollar bill. democrats are fighting with each other what should be included in bills. expect brawls adding vision, hearing dental coverage toe medicare, and arguments about the cost. nancy pelosi left the door open lowering the price tag but has a question for those who want to trim the bill. >> where would you cut? child care?

family medical leave paid for? universal pre-k? home health care, so important? reporter: senate democrats like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema could torpedo the bill because they want to lower the cost. democrats need every single vote. >> got to get every single democrat plus the vice president and the chair in order to pass it. so we're down to two who are resisting, joe manchin from west virginia and sir tin cinema from arizona -- kyrsten sinema from arizona. i pray for them every night. reporter: progressives say $3.5 trillion is their compromise. if democrats starts to cut that upsets their liberal base. >> rallying up those voters is to be very dangerous and disillusioning and also really contradictory i think to what the goals of the democratic party and republican party for that matter really should be.

reporter: tomorrow democrats and republicans will work the ref they appear before senate parliamentarian elizabeth mcdonough. she must decide if i immigration provisions in a spending bill. usually can't put policies on immigration in a reconciliation spending bill like this. neil? neil: is nancy pelosi going to be paid for or not. i was confused by her statement, half will be paid for, the white house insisting will be paid for, where is this now? >> she said a couple of weeks ago she hopes it is going to be paid for. mark warner democratic senator from west virginia did a interview with hillary vaughn from fox business a few minutes ago, how they get the pay-fors will be very complex that will hinge on a lot of members how they vote for this on the democratic side of the aisle. remember this gets very complex as to has to be paid for over a 10-year window. when you use the budget

reconciliation process those are the rules. what we find here on capitol hill you can never quite project that far out as to what is paid for. inevitably it is almost never paid for frankly. neil: yeah. exactly. all right, chad, thank you very, very much now focusing on the other story, maybe many in the administration would sooner you not focus on for the time-being in favor of more domestic initiatives, what is going on in afghanistan. a plane did get out today at a couple of airports with better than 200 having adequate papers to get out of country. what does that mean? greg palkot is following all of this in london. greg. reporter: neil, there is good news and bad news for folks trying to get out of afghanistan and away from the blip of the grip of the taliban of the militant today allowed 200 foreigners, many with american passports to fly out of kabul airport that still leaves we're told, among others 1100 at-risk

people trapped by the militants trying to get flights from the northern city of mazar-i-sharif. that enclouds a guy by the name of faradou and his family. we told you about him. he was a translator for americans for years. he was manifested on the flight from the northern airport. the taliban is saying no flights from there. he is afraid. take a listen. >> we are afraid of situation if the flights are not allowed to take off i have to travel to kabul by road or by land. which means once again i will take my fate in my hands and tell the taliban you have to choice to kill me or let you go. reporter: they have the choice to kill me or let me go, neil. he tried to fly out of kabul airport. he got harassed there. his home has been ransacked. his life has been threatened. he says the taliban is blackmailing the u.s. politically with desperate folks

like him waiting for those flights. take a listen. >> they're playing politics and they want politically somehow blackmail the u.s. government to give them some kind of choices and finally reach vehicles and then they will allow the flights to take off. reporter: new, i asked him what he thought of the 20th anniversary coming up of 9/11. remember 20 years ago the taliban was in charge for the first time. he said the taliban in charge again in afghanistan is like being in the 7th century and dangerous. back to you. neil: i can imagine your case being there in the very, very beginning with terror and succeed in pushing the taliban out. now 20 years later back in charge, fully in charge. got to be surreal just for you, greg. thank you very much. my friend greg palkot, i hear you. sarah westwood, white house

correspondent for "the washington examiner." sarah, the good news the folks got out there on this plane. the more problematic news other planes like it who need to take off when reportedly thousands want to take off. what is the latest you're hearing? >> that's right. you mentioned or greg mentioned earlier there are private charter flights sifting in mazar-i-sharif, the northern sitting in afghanistan not allowed to take off. minimum of two dozen americans are there trying to get out. i interviewed the organizer of these charter flights. she told me the way the state department is talking about the situation in mazar-i-sharif with the charter flights is completely dishonest. they provided all the information requested them by the state department and the state department is essentially deferring to the taliban here for getting clearance of these planes. this is part and parcel we've seen throughout the afghanistan

response. it is continuing now to the extent the biden administration is talking about afghanistan, biden is trying to pivot and some of his officials are still talking about it. they are not straight with the american people what is happening. it was a struggle to get a firm number out of the biden administration indicating how many americans are still stuck in afghanistan. secretary of state antony blinken said earlier this week that that number was around 100. then all of a sudden nearly 200 americans are on the plane that did take off. so that has been unclear. the state department not giving a clear answer about how they plan to evacuate the dozens of americans still there and so you're really seeing the white house though trying to avoid talking about this right now. neil: you know, probably the president will not be able to avoid it this weekend when shows up at three 9/11 sites, pennsylvania, washington, of course, new york, to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the attacks. many have cited because of what

happened in afghanistan they didn't want him to even show up. so how is the white house preparing for this? >> you saw that earlier this week when president biden toured flood damage in new jersey. he was trying to keep the focus on the administration hurricane recovery efforts and he was heckled by people in totally unrelated context about his afghanistan response. so you could imagine that the white house is nervous that a similar situation could unfold when biden is sort of present at an event in which afghanistan is a relevant topic but you can tell that the white house really doesn't want to be talking about this, to the extent they are talking about it. it is not biden. it is not even white house press secretary jen psaki as much as she can avoid questions. it really is related to the administrations that have afghanistan and foreign policy in their portfolios. the problem for president biden right now, his approval rating has taken such a hit as a result of all of this there is not

really a safe space for him to pivot to where he can focus his attention, where his performance is popular. his numbers have fallen across the board, whether talking about his handling of the economy or his handling of the covid pandemic, his numbers there were slipping before afghanistan happened. so even though as you mentioned earlier today, he will be talking about covid, earlier he was talking about the economy. those aren't necessarily areas where he is doing a great job in the eyes of voters either. neil: yeah. to run to these domestic issues i can understand. it's a pivot that might not pay off for him politically. still early. anything can happen. sarah westwood, thank you very much. for those watching the show this week, as we continue next couple days leading up to the formal 20th anniversary of 9/11 attacks themselves, we'll be at ground zero, we're looking at all the memorials set up around the country. while researching this, better than 1000 of them, featuring a

good many of them steel from the old world trade center towers are own the place this one in florida. there are more memorial as from this event than any other private event in american history. the sheer number of them. got us thinking, as you step back from this, not only what was happening then 20 years ago, but in the days and weeks since. because we stay covering this story back then, including when the markets had to reopen and face the reality that a lot of people were a lot scared. >> been a little been more than a week since anyone was pulled alive from the world trade center crash site. folks are quickly trying to ascertain the difference between a rescue and a recovery. the market is mildly to the upside but i stress mildly. you know an interesting tug-of-war will develop here, john, and i think it could be a defining moment for the market this is week. not the fact they're open.

that in of itself is testament to these guys, their courage, getting things back to normal, but more to the point how we handle the relief, or the rescue packages whatever you want to call it for the airline industry right now. fears others could come hat in hand. they might totally be justified looking for money. the question where is that money coming from? if you give the airline industry the money it wants do you start giving other indid you industries the money they want? that is raises questions how badly we bust the budget. maybe we deal with after that, cross the ts, dot the is. i heard from other ceos, what you do for them you should do for me. that is a includes a host of industry that were feeling pain long before the planes hit the pentagon and world trade center

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♪. neil: you know there have been a lot of incredible stories you read here 20 years later after the attacks but among them more startling, more memorable at least in my mind, that of michael hinson, totally blind.

he was in the tower, 78th floor when everything hit the fan. he relied on his guide dog to get him down those 78 stories. got out. wrote a best-seller about it, thunder dog, true story after blind man his guide dog and triumph of trust. a remarkable, remarkable story. he joins us now. michael, good to have you. >> thank you, good to be here. neil: tell me about that day. >> we were on the 78th floor. i managed an office for a company. we were going to be doing some sales seminars to teach our reseller partners how to sell our products. several of us were there at the time at 8:45 when we heard a muffled explosion. the building shuttered. as you imagine my hand, the tower literally began to dip. we moved as much as 20 feet before the building came back

and righted itself. no idea what was going on. no one had any idea what was going on. because the airplane hit 18 floors above us on the other side of the building. we clearly needed to evacuate. we got our guests out. as you said, rose and i and my colleague david frank went down the steps and got out. neil: you advised many people not to use the elevator and many perished, not in your group. how did you get down the 18 floors? rose was guiding you i imagine they were pretty crowded? >> they were pretty crowded. we all worked panic from coming into the stairwell. we all knew we had to work together. rose did her part. she wasn't able to guide. it was crowded around i held on to stair rail, walked heel behind me.

the dog's job make sure we walk safe. it is my job to command her where to go, what to do. it's a team, when we work together, it works together well, it worked out that is what happened on september 11th. we helped people get down the stairs virtue of us being calm and focused. a lot of people told me, we followed you the down the stairs because you were calm and praising rosel. if i helped and was assistance to people. neil: you get out of the building. now you know the there is a threat, the whole thing could comcast kaeding down. you're relying on rosell to get you out of the area. plain what happened then? >> we didn't know that. we had no idea what had happened. when we got outside david saw fire in tower two. we walked to broadway, started walking north. we get to vesey street when

tower two collapsed. everyone turn and ran. david ran. i turned around to fulton street, run crossways and hopefully keep a building if you will between us and the collapsing towers if it made a difference. i caught up to david. we kept running. then we became engulfed in the dust cloud. david said he couldn't see his hand 6:00-inches in front of his face. i couldn't breathe without feeling stuff going down my throat. we decided we had to get out of the dust cloud going into the building we were running next to. i kept telling, rozelle, right, right, i don't know if she could see my hand signals or hear my voice. she must have. i heard an opening. she turned into an opening. turned out she stopped right at the top of a flight of stairs which is exactly what she was supposed to do. as i said, when the team works well it works. that is exactly what happened that day. she stopped, when i discovered

we were at the top after fight of stairs. i told her to go forward. we went down into the fulton street subway station. neil: seems like i take it she has since passed, michael, but she seemed like an amazingly calm dog? >> you know, when guide dog schools are selecting dogs or breeding dogs to be guide dogs they try to find dogs that won't be distracted. when i got rozelle, the trainer said, what do you want in a guide dog? she was my fifth dog. i had been using guide dogs since 1964. i want a dog with an on and off switch. when will focus to work and time to play, he or she will play hard and rozelle was absolutely perfect. she focused and did exactly what she was supposed to do then and so many other times when we do things like cross the street, a driver not paying attention just comes down the street and we have to move out of the way like

other pedestrians do. so rozelle was very used to unusual and surprising situations and behaved very well. neil: yeah. so glad, what a great story to tell. michael, you're calm having only heard it. never having to get the sight to see any of it is remarkable in of itself. michael hingson. >> i would say -- i would say you know that the blindness isn't the big problem. you're right, i didn't see it but i didn't need to see it. i have a really great imagination and imagined things actually worse than they actually were. reality eyesight is not all its cracked up to be. you can function very well without eyesight. you may do things differently and use different techniques but the results are the same. neil: you're remarkable. i know you don't like to take a bow for but you are. michael hi in. gson. thunder dog, true story of a

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islip, illinois. what is going on, jeff? reporter: this is wholesale beef and other meat establishment. that is a bone-in rib-eye right there. look at that. that is a bone-in rib-eye, rich, how much in the past, how much now? >> usually we charge anywhere from 12.59 to 14.59 for prime product. right now it is up in the 20s because of supply. reporter: here is another one. i have to show neil this, that is called a tomahawk steak? >> tomahawk steak? >> for choice, 10.95, 9.95. right now they're 18.95 per pound. reporter: we always want to blame somebody for this. the administration says it is the processors. who do you blame? >> the administration? reporter: how so? >> we need term limits. that is what we need. reporter: you and i were talking about that earlier. i do want to put the numbers up

though. they say too many processors have consolidated. the top four beef processers in the year 19when your dad was running the business -- 1977. top four guys were 25% of the business. now 82% of the business. it would be helpful to have more competition, would it not? >> definitely. competition never hurts anybody. that is what built our country, is capitalism is, a little competition definitely. reporter: you have only a few places to buy the meat? >> yes. the choices are not the same. we have great houses we buy from. we used to have a lot more choices back in the day. reporter: leave you neil, with age, this is aged stuff, right? >> everything we put out has at least 30 day aged products before we serve it. that is for our restaurants. reporter: where are prices going on this? >> on new york strip? reporter: are we at the top do you think? >> i hope so, i hope so. i thought we were at the top a

while ago. as things came down they shot right back up again. it is hard to predict. you can predict the market pretty well. things go up in the summer. go down in the fall. go back up in the winter. reporter: all bets are off? >> all bets are off. reporter: neil, tempting to be in a place like this i will tell you that, if you're somebody who likes to eat and i do believe you're one of those guys. neil: i don't know where you get that idea but you're walking around in my version of heaven. man, oh, man. why do they have the thin guy doing this story? i should be where you are right now. jeff, thank you very, very much. jeff flock following all of that. could be as simple as supply and demand. supply and demand coming out of a pandemic. people want this stuff and it shoots up. anyway, charlie gasparino is with us now. he has been following the bitcoin and cryptocurrency saga.

the sec with an assault on this, it is wild west and guy who runs the sec early on talking about it has to be reined in. that seems to continue to happen right now. charlie what is the latest? >> i don't know, man, looking of that steak, dreaming of having one. neil: tell me about it. a little steak viola here. go ahead. >> i think what is going on, neil, gary gensler wants to jack crash down on this. he wants to make a name as the regulator that cracked down on crypto. he is doing it in a way that say it is unconventional to say the least. i spoke to people at coinbase, who got a wells notice before they issued a product that the sec thinks is illegal, that is some sort of a lending product. what i hear from the sources, they engaged with the sec for months on end. bingo one day, out of the blue, the sec informs them if you do

this, this new product, we will sue you in court. we will issue what is called a wells notice, the enforcement division determined that with this new product likely violates the law. you can argue about later a good chance you will get sued by us. they were totally blown away. this is a theme runs through the gensler sec. if the republicans get ahold of congress there will be hearings on this constantly, that he is making up stuff as he goes along at least according to his targets. coinbase was given no real reason from what i understand why this new product violated the law, why it is exactly considered something under the sec purview, which the sec can only regulate securities. why it is not a banking product which they thought it was. they are given no guidance despite all the meetings they had. making presentations to the sec from what i understand. a guy named brian armstrong ceo,

asked for a sit-down with gensler, didn't get it. what he did get is wells notice delivered to him. this is the one of the bizarre things of the gensler sec tenure so far, it is new is that people just get hit with stuff. he makes pronouncements. he doesn't do much in terms of investigations before he does these pronouncements. certain things he doesn't like he goes after and it is just very strange. i asked securities lawyers. who will come out on top? coinbase from what i understand is still weighing its options. it may issue the product and choose to have the sec come after it and sue them and they will fight them in court. they don't know yet where they're going to do it but you know if they do that, and win, they will essentially be making law. again, i'm telling you, this is a very strange sec tenure, neil. if the republicans get congress, particularly the senate, the direct regulator of sec he will

be grilled, he will be spending a lot of time on capitol hill. he may want to think about other employment. maybe go back to goldman sachs or mit. i don't know. back to you, neil. neil: thank you my friend, charlie gasparino following all of that. we've been on my shows all this week looking back, looking forward, 20 years ago looking what we were doing that day. one of the things people forget, of nearly 3,000 people killed in those attacks, they came from every state in this country, every single one, and more than 50 countries around the world which could explain why memorials are all over this country, including this country in houston, texas, among hundreds that have been set up in the 20 years since as well as many abroad. remembering a day when average people did beyond average things to save other people. you saved a lot of people's

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♪. neil: having come up here just to look what's going on you know, half a world away it seems than downtown new york, i can't tell you, john, number of times i've been up both world trade center towers in my 20 years of covering business news, talking to some of the my at thissest in the corporate community. that community now gone completely. the dimensions of this are now

only coming home to me. i developed friendships with people who both worked in those towers. many people who are now feared dead. you cannot just appreciate how much has been lost here. to show you that, cantor fitzgerald, which is a big bond trading firm, it's offices essentially gone. 85% of the workers work in the upper five floors of the north tower that were hit. there were stories some of the brokers were calling home to their families, essentially saying what you john said, neighbor had as children. good bye. we don't think we'll be out of here anytime soon. the wife of one of them emailing, neil, if you can, any way to let people know my husband al smith, let him know he is still missing. we're still hoping to hear from him. i always obviously good them to some of the websites. to let them know if that is a way to know if the loved one is

still alive. a good savvy read of the financial markets, whether he survived. important to point out as well, john, a lot of these financial experts who folks came into the office very early. stayed very late. by the way a footnote on those remarks which he were doing at the time from the top of our fox news headquarters in midtown manhattan just to get a sense of what the horror was playing outlined us, those names you heard, al smith and bill meehan, they had perished in those attacks. we didn't know at the time but wall street came back. the financial community came back. they rallied around with one another to get things going again. to remember their long lost colleagues, to try not to let this get the better of capitalism and the capitalism that they liveed for and loved. that was then. to look at downtown new york now, it is completely different

place. real estate has soared. its attraction as a mecca of young people of all types is unlike anything we saw even back then. lydia hu seeing it back then at ground zero today. reporter: neil, we got insight from developer larry silverstein, who told us when he started on the path to redevelop, rebuild ground zero he wanted to make it a mix of both business and residential properties so the area would be a place where people both work and live. so that remembering the lives lost and the sacrifices made here are a part of everyday life. >> good morning. >> martin bush jewelers has operated in manhattan for 67 years. the store was seven blocks from the world trade center during the terrorist attacks of september 11th, 2001. >> my mother and my father were working that morning and they had a staff of four at the time.

ned to evacuate following the towers falling. reporter: the devastating aftermath crippled the city's economy. 1800 small businesses were dislocated, disrupted or destroyed. more than 83,000 city jobs were lost. >> something that i said to myself very early on, we have a sacred obligation here as new yorkers to rebuild this place. reporter: six weeks before the september 11th attacks developer larry silverstein signed a $3.2 billion, 99 year lease on the world trade center. after 9/11, silver steen invested tens of billions of dollars to transform the one-time smoldering disaster zone into a place of sacred remembrance, complete with a memorial and museum to honor lives lost. we're standing on the national

9/11 memorial. it's called reflecting absence. the name and the architecture of the plaza really suggests what's missing, that people are missing and the buildings that were once here. gone but never forgotten. the area also revitalized with residences, offices and restaurants intended to breathe new life into lower manhattan. >> i hope they see this as an opportunity to revive the exquisite nature of what brought this country together to begin with, for new yorkers and americans to come together once again. reporter: a testament to the resilience of the country and the city, neil. you can now see one world trade center stands just behind me completed 20 years later. neil. back to you. neil: thank you. that is beautiful, lydia. thank you very, very much and that freedom tower she was

referring to as well is 1776 feet tall. what do you think they were getting at there? just a reminder that new york came back but it wouldn't have been possible without folks like this next gentleman. you know darren porcher. a frequent guest on this show, but former nypd lieutenant was there that day, a first responder. what he dealt with and all the folks he helped cannot go unaddressed. darren, very good to have you. normally we're talking about a crime, so i'm glad to have you under this situation but if you think about it, this was a huge crime a crime against new york, a crime against nearly 3,000 innocent people. relive that morning if you could. >> thanks for having me on. you know we really need to salute the testament ever the brave men and women that went in to secure and evacuate as many people as possible from that world trade center complex. you know i go back to that day. i was a sergeant working in

manhattan south. i was in uniform and once the first plane hit the first tower we all thought it was an accident. the second plane hit, we immediately knew it was a terrorist act. we immediately transitioned into rescue mode, contingent of officers came from all commands throughout the city of new york to help rescue and save those people down at that world trade center complex. it was just unfortunate, one of my coworkers, glen petit, lost his life in the midst of trying to save someone. he put himself in front, excuse me, he put others in front of himself for the sake of saving the public. that is what we signed up to do as first-responders, not just in the nypd, whether fdny, whether ems, we all came together from a collaborative perspective to do what was right for new york and those people in those buildings. neil: well you are a unique bunch. people forget of those nearly

3,000 killed, 450 thereabouts were firefighters, first-responders, police, port authority personnel. staggering loss. looking back at it, seeing what downtown is like today, would you have envisioned it would come back to the degree it had and has? >> we're new york tough and new york strong and this is what i expected to happen. we came together like never before. it is not just the city of new york but as a nation. we stood in the face of terrorism. we looked back and we said we're better than you and the representation is what lies down at ground zero with the erection of that world trade center complex. we are new yorkers and we took it to the next level and this is a testament of our success. once again we salute our foreman, but by the same token we soldier on as new yorkers. neil: indeed you do. we all do.

darren, you were a big part of that. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me and i appreciate you really putting this story out there and on another note, you didn't age one day from 9/11 to now. i salute you as well. neil: no, someone emailed me you had a better toupee back then. i don't know where that was coming from. >> that wasn't me. neil: very good seeing you again. as darren points out, he really echoes it for those who have not come to the new york city metropolitan area, you go downtown, which i urge you to do, you must go to this site and this area. this is a famous site. midtown manhattan, avenue of the americas, radio city, christmas tree, all the other things iconic symbols of new york but downtown where the old world trade center stood, now you're looking at the freedom tower. there is stunningly beautiful, just incredible museum, that

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neil: welcome back, everybody i'm neil cavuto and you're watching "coast to coast" on fox business and we are just seconds away right now from jen psaki and another white house briefing likely detailing or maybe telegraphing what the administration is going to do about these spikes in cases, covid cases in this country and the president is set to announce all federal workers must be vaccinated, but obviously, what's going on in afghanistan will be a big subject as well amid reports that the first plane to leave with a significant number of individuals post our troops leaving there better than 200 of them is now left kabul airport. edward lawrence on all of these developments at the white house.

hey, edward. reporter: hey, neil yeah, likely to be a lot of questions about afghanistan. the answers we'll have to see any moment we're waiting for that white house press briefing from jen psaki, but we're going to have to see over the past two days she's been brushing off those questions about afghanistan. as you said, we can confirm the first international flight has now left kabul. it is a commercial airline flight. the plane flew in from qatar, carrying relief supplies and is now leaving with foreigners a board. the taliban said they will allow 100-150 westerners leave through the airport, some of those can be american, according to a taliban spokesperson. there are still six planes though at another airport on the ground. the white house saying the taliban will not let them take off but then admits the u.s. will not let the planes land because they can't verify whose on board, as there are no american troops on the ground doing the screenings. so when the plane leaves, it begs the question, what's next? the administration asking congress to make a quick pathway

to citizenship for the refugees possibly through green cards. that alone raises more questions for republicans about the screen ing process. >> how are we going to vet people through a process that normally takes 14 months in just a matter of a few short weeks when we have people in the southern border that waited years legally so a lot of questions. reporter: possible green card status could be among the $6.4 billion, the administration wants to put into a continuing resolution, part of that money will also pay for the screening process that's happening in third party countries like in qatar where that screening is happening also in germany though. you can also tell you that 30,000 of those afghan refugees when they get to the u.s. will be housed in u.s. military bases back to you, neil. neil: if this next story confuses you you're not alone. last week and the week before that as well the rush on the part of the republicans was bashing the administration for not moving quickly enough

and swiftly enough to go ahead and get as many afghan nationals out of that country as possible, now a flip around, 40 republican s sending a letter to the president expressing grave concern that this is too rushed, too incomplete, in this vetting process. let's guest the latest on this , following everything from capitol hill. what's going on here? reporter: hey, neil. so congresswoman yvette harold from new mexico is kind of spearheading this movement to get at some answers about the vetting process. she's written up this letter that's also been signed by more than 40 members of congress, and she's basically raising concerns over the vetting process calling it inadequate, and at the background checks have been inadequate. now, we know, neil, that some afghan evacuees are taken to third party countries first, before arriving here but secretary of state anthony blinken revealed just this week

they are doing the accounting on the back end of things. now the gop letter reads in part , dhs has admitted that it does minimal checks outside the united states, and does not have access to many nations criminal background check systems. now, meanwhile, congressman mark green of tennessee also raising some serious questions claiming that source has told him that evacuees at a virginia military base have "free reign over the facility" and they are using ridesharing apps to leave the facility. fox news has not confirmed those claims yet, but the white house is also ignoring a deadline to answer 26 other republicans calling for the exact number of people who still need to be evacuated from afghanistan, so a lot of questions, not a lot of answers as of yet but neil, answers could come very soon, the senate armed services committee just announced its first oversight hearing on afghanistan will take place on september 28, in both

defense secretary lloyd austin and joint chiefs chair mark mill ey are expected to testify, so that might be our first time we're hearing from these two in an oversight hearing. neil? neil: thank you, very much for that. let's go to lucas tomlinson. he's been following very very closely these gitmo detainees among them the 9/11 mastermind k sm finally happening at guantanamo, but it's sort of like a stumbling process. what's the latest? reporter: there's no question about that, neil its been about a decade since these pre-trial hearings began here in guantanamo bay, cuba. so far the case class not been to trial. all week 9/11 mastermind mohammed and his nephew have been in court, smiling. >> why were you smiling in court today? >> i'm sure he was smiling in court because he was happy to see us. the man's been in lockdown for as long as everyone else has been in lockdown and to see

people his legal team he hasn't seen in a long time, you know, is a cause for pleasure. reporter: court in recess until 9:00 a.m. tomorrow, neil, better known by his initials ksm seen praying in the courtroom, smiling and waving at reporters 20 years ago his plan to kill nearly 3,000 people by hijacking the airliners. boarding kuwait ksm went to a small college in north carolina before graduating to a life of terrorism beginning in afghanistan. fox news inside the u.s. military courtroom this week. these pre-trial hearings, there is still no trial date set the five prisoners in court this week came from cia black sites 15 years ago as being captured in pakistan. this is a death penalty case, neil and new military judge with only two years and one day of experience in the bench facing questions from lawyers on both sides of the prosecution and the defense about his experience neil this is the seventh judge assigned to run this military tribunal here at gitmo, cost the taxpayers $13 million each

per prisoner, per year, 39 remain and there are other convicted terrorists serving life in the super max prison in colorado to the tune of $70 million per year. the taxpayers also foot the bill for the defense attorneys, the female defense attorneys wear a hijab and full islamic attire and the u.s. military lawyers and those female u.s. military lawyers assigned to cover the defense again at taxpayer expense don't have to wear the hijab, neil. neil: incredible. all right, lucas tomlinson thank you very much at guantanamo bay, cuba. so we'll keep you posted and also on this flight that earlier left kabul airport, with 200 individuals on board, we're told a couple of dozen u.s. citizens on that flight, the rest were all afghan nationals, but getting out of the tens of thousands, we're told, who still want to get out, that's going to prove tricky. let's go to lt. colonel trip adams u.s. army vet juan national security project member very big on this digital denmark , dunkirk, you hear so

much about getting these people out and it would work the number s then that we wanted to see out against nazi aggression back in world war ii so these are substantial numbers , colonel, that we still want out, but no agreement on how we're going to get them out. now this jet today was waived to go ahead and fly out, but the taliban made that decision, so i suspect it will be up to the taliban to make future decisions, right? >> i think it's still going to be very tough, neil. you and i spoke a few weeks ago and the holdup there was getting through the gates on the airport now we fast forward a few weeks, and we still have a holdup and right now, the holdup is what do we do with all these folks who served the u.s. when we were over there and are now special immigrant visa applicants? they have no way to get out. right now, i'm really focused on helping u.s. army soldiers who have family in afghanistan, so these are soldiers who chose to

be american citizens and then secondly, chose to fight in the forces which guard our country and our way of life, and they have immediate family members over there who also serve the u.s. for 20 years or sometime in those 20 years, and they've burned all of their american documents, they've uploaded them to the cloud, and we don't have a process by which to get them out even if those commercial flights open, where are they going to get their documents and how they get through so that's what the coalition of folks, the afghan evac teams i'm a part of that's what we're working to help these people with. neil: god bless you, colonel. maybe it's a simple question maybe a dumb one at that, but it's a notion that we don't have a state department there or american personnel there to check, or write off on this paperwork, whatever it is. the taliban is the one calling shots, and that worries me. >> that's the crux, neil, and i'm encouraged to hear that president and congress talk about we're all in agreement.

we have a commitment to these people. they helped us and fought alongside us, and we have said we will take care of you and we will get you out, so what's the next steps to do that if we've told them hey, we can't, you have to have a visa to get out and that's our agreement with the taliban then how are we going to get them those visas? its been nine days now since we left on august 31, and we're still waiting to hear that plan, so i'm hoping to hear that plan and looking forward to it. all the organizations that we work with are cooperating with the state department and we continue to emphasize that and we're here to help to get these, our allies out, who fought alongside us. neil: how many people do you think we're talking about, colonel? >> neil, i think from the state department's own numbers there were 17,000 sib's in process, you know? that's still unclear how many exactly how many we got out of those but you figure like 10,000 at least left over with their families, so you're looking at 40 to 60,000 people who have

already been vetted. now let's be clear. they had to be vetted just to serve alongside in afghanistan, and now they are getting vetted again through the sib process, and we're still, we don't have a way to help them. i'm working with a gentleman right now, i'll call him sergeant mike because i don't want to endanger his family and he chose to serve in our country 's military and now he has immediate family members on the ground in afghanistan who served with our military, and they can't get out. he spent two hours on the phone this morning going from the task force to the doha embassy back to the task force to a disconnected line at the state department. he's ready to help. he's ready to get his family members out, and it's jarring, neil. i will talk to you right now and then i'll look down at my phone and get a message from afghanistan and this family saying what do we do next, how can we get out? what are the next steps? and that's what the we're looking forward to work with at the state department. neil: well i wish you all the best on this , colonel.

you're remarkable individual. you never give up, you're tenacious and i know, it's tough in this situation, because there's no government, u.s. government entity there to really help you. keep us posted, colonel, trip adams, the u.s. army veteran, he's devoted so much of his time to getting these people out and it is a huge task and all of this , of course as we remember what happened 20 years ago that really got us into afghanistan in the first place. we later toppled the taliban, and now this. memorials across the country, some featuring various artifacts from the trade towers themselves and the pentagon that are especially meaningful now as we remember what happened then and try not to forget it in the future, as if that's possible. on this network and beyond, we have been looking at this from all angles, including not only what happened 20 years ago but how with each and every passing anniversary, we tried to

progress. take a look. >> there are many people who say we've gotten almost too easy about it, that we've forgotten what happened behind me. have we? >> no i don't think we have. i think it's going to be with us forever, really. this is a major turning point in our history in the beginning of a new phase, in life for all americans. >> if it were to happen again, not even necessarily to the magnitude of september 11, what do you think? >> i think it be great for me to come on and make some great statements but until you know the nature of the event, and it's impossible to say the exact same thing had happened, well there's a law of diminishing margin of utility, every time you get something happens and you get used to it, it has a lesser impact.

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neil: all right, well we were a little confused yesterday when the speaker nancy pelosi said that maybe half of this $3.5 trillion package will be paid for , maybe the whole thing, but they are looking for ways to close the gap because they had realized right now that as things stand, it is a long way from being paid for. so they took up a number of potential tax hikes that cut across-the-board, and a lot of people, hillary vaughn has been

going through it all on capitol hill, what have you found out? reporter: hey, neil. we found out that there's over two dozen tax proposals on the table, there is a democrat- only meeting today, with members on the senate finance committee, to look at some of these tax proposals and to see if they can get broad agreement among democrats on which ones to include, as a way to pay for the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package. senator mark warner is one of the members who tells me how much money they can ultimately raise from these increased taxes is going to drive the debate on how big the reconciliation package ends up being, telling me that he's committed to making sure that it is 100% paid for , but says they have a lot of work to do, to come up with the cash. >> i'm in conversations with ceo's and so forth and you know, that maybe appropriate or not.

[inaudible] there are so many programs on the wish list, i don't see how you do the math. reporter: so the idea is being considered raising the top income tax rate, raising the corporate tax rate and raising taxes on capital gains. also, new taxes on stock trades and yearly taxes on gains made from investments, but senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is most worried about the tax proposal that would eliminate the step-up in base for inherited assets that critics say is a death tax. >> i think the hardest thing to sell is the step-up base, and i'm hoping that manchin and sine ma will dig in their heels on that. that is a dramatic step in the direction of literally

confiscating your property at death. it is an outrage. reporter: and neil, mcconnell has been making his tour through his local districts and as he's been doing that he's been saying he is praying for manchin and sinema to essentially knock down these more controversial proposals in the reconciliation package, but his answer to prayer may not be coming from the senate side but it could be coming from the house side. the house is marking up their version of the reconciliation bill right now and one democratic lawmaker stephanie murphy from florida said today that she thinks she's an impossible situation because there are not enough details, there are not enough specifics on how the entire spending package will actually be paid for and she says unless she gets those details, she will be forced to vote "no" on the final package, so there is some turbulence on the house side of some democrats saying they cannot back this proposal entirely. neil? neil: got it.

great reporting as always on this , hillary vaughn, i'll have luke lloyd on this because luke if even half of the things that hillary mentioned come to pass besides hiking the top rate back to 39.6% the corporate rate to maybe 25-28%, all this other stuff on investment assets, yearly gains, you know, extended tax hikes on corporations that have ceo pay that's out of whack with the lowest workers on the totem pole, that could be considerable what do you think? >> well i think all no matter if you raise taxes at the corporate level or at the personal level it's definitely going to hinder the growth of the economy and we don't need that right now. we saw record level of earnings in the stock market, we see wall street doing just fine but that's the thing. wall street is really doing just fine right now. consumers are on a spending spree and the question you need to ask yourself right now is where is all of this money going and it's going to wall street,

it's not going to main street so what i'm truly concerned about is how small businesses are going to be able to handle higher taxes down the road. they are already struggling to find workers right now. wall street they are able to hire these workers and worker shortage that we're seeing but on main street, i mean, taxes are just another headwind ahead and it's not good. another thing you talked about was a step-up in base that they are trying to eliminate. essentially what it sounds like democrats are trying to do is eliminate generational wealth and you always hear the saying that the first generation makes it, the second generation grows it and the third generation spends it, so technically, we already have a natural cycle of how the economy and the money works, but they are trying to force people that have made it to get rid of their wealth and that's not a good way to go about it. neil: you know, when i talk to people on this , especially democrats who they talk about the rich having to pay their fair share i thought if we returned to 39.6% that be their fair share and they said no not enough we have to go after

capital gains at almost 50% et cetera, but it is a moving target, and many, you know, progressives say well back in the 1950s we have a 90% tax rate and of course these other tax rates were a lot more onerous but on the 90% such thing i remember one famous politician saying so we would have a long way to go, as if that's a goal. what do you think of all of this >> well the thing is for a lot of people, it's never their fair share, so a lot of the mentality in today's world is if somebody makes more money than you, then they should be paying higher taxes is what they say they should be doing right? it's kind of the sense of jealousy is what i see a lot of the times but the thing is, neil , those that have made it to the top and those that are in the higher tax brackets that own the business, that own the small businesses, they even own some the larger corporations, they are making the innovation of america. i mean, they are pushing america forward, they are creating jobs, they are creating wealth, right? so i think a lot of people have

the wrong mentality about those that are successful. they are successful for a reason and they are actually making other people successful by hiring people and by pumping money into the economy and making the economy work, so to my opinion, they are already paying their fair share. i mean, just take a look at amazon and all these larger corporations, and democrats getting mad because these billionaires aren't paying taxes so they are supplying all these jobs and all this wealth to other people that are paying their taxes, so inherently they actually are paying billions of dollars in taxes. neil: it looks unlikely given the calendar that this gets done this year, and next year would make it problematic. how do you feel about that if it's pushed off to next year, because that, those tax increases be pushed off as well. >> yeah, listen. whether it happens this year, whether it happens next year, i think that's going to happen either way. this has been part of their democrats agenda for a while now , so i think the markets trying to prepare and the economy is trying to prepare

for these higher taxes but we really aren't going to see the effects international two, three, four years down the road and when taxes rise, you don't see that effect until later on so what i'm truly worried about, you know, isn't necessarily the short-term, it's really the long term of the economy, and i think that's what we really need to take a look at because we have put forward a ton of gains in the stock market. we pulled forward a lot of the economic growth supposed to happen pre-covid with all the stimulus and the spending, definitely inflating that, their prices are inflating the economy we need to let the economy continue to grow and not halt that movement especially when we're competing around the world with other countries. we need to let the united states grow and get the united states back, back ahead and innovating and competing. neil: well-put, luke lloyd great catching up with you on this. what luke was describing right now was exactly the debate that was raging in this country 20 years ago i'm talking before technically the attacks i'm talking 20 years ago today, it was a sunday, it was the last weekend before the attacks hit but prominent in all the

newspaper stories was the shrinking surplus that president bush had to deal with and the money he was going to spend to provide the economy with tax cuts and the like and whether that was going to do too much damage, but there was also talk about helping what's going on on-the-job less front because we're up to close to 5% unemployment. all of that, of course forgotten of the day of the attacks themselves, memorials that have been setup all over the world, all over this country, one in kansas city, kansas right now. we're revisiting all of that and one other footnote on what was occupying us long before the attacks just 48 hours away. the most popular video game in the country was something called battle realms, and another called dark angel, vampire apocalypse, with kind of erie telegraphed what was going to happen, days later.

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neil: meanwhile from the trails i am talking about the big bucks being lost on wall street the dow down more than 12% since reopening this week. it has never been down so much in four trading days ever, airlines taking the biggest hit. i talked to a lot of ceo's and financiers who say the only way a market turns around the only way the economy turns around the only way the american sentiment turns around is if we do something quick and sweeping, but if you're right, it can't necessarily be quick, it'll certainly be sweeping, but that people who want like an immediate sort of type experience could be sorely disappointed. >> that, to me, requires some degree of patience. i know that's difficult in a time like this. neil: are we adding insult to injury by giving into the terrorists and by the lack and chilling receptionist getting and the fact we don't

seem to be getting out of this funk and they are almost seeding to terrorist demand. >> i think maybe it will just take a little time because people are down and people are depressed. neil: i hear all sorts of dollar estimates with the horrific human toll that this will be the most expensive disaster in u.s. history. is that a given? >> i think if you think about it from the entire industry from the property casualty side there's no doubt about it. neil: if it is ultimately declared an act of war, are you responsible for it? >> i know there's a lot of feeling for revenge and saying things that we need to do to deal with the pain, but we must be thoughtful. we must be right and the most important thing we need to do as a company as well as country is we have to get back into our futures again. neil: the sad thing about looking back, of course is remembering former colleagues, like terry keenan, a vital link in our business unit, a wonderful wife and mother, just a warm vibrant spirit.

she would die only a few years later, and robert benmosche he was battling cancer at the time of the attacks later succumbed to that but not before writing the corporate chip and avoiding what could have been massive layoffs at the company and the financial industry. we miss them both and remember that day very well, because of everything that had to fall into place when a lot of people, out of nowhere, came up to help, including my next guest, daniel blue, restaurant and the chief owner and owner of seven restaurants in new york city providing food and support, shelter on many days, for those first responders. chef it's kind enough to join us now, very good to have you, sir. >> thank you, neil, thank you very much. neil: you must look back at that , and i can't imagine the memories that flood back, but you decided right then and there, there are a lot of people who need my help, need something

, and this is what i'm going to do. what was the reaction? >> and i was not the only one. i think right away, there was a sense of course of solidarity and courage and generosity. we all wanted to know what can we d ready to to help help anyor onredespr,onde firemen f,em fem, e m a mtingtiit all a ofof tof restauranta aantand id wsasae nee t t t get tet whad ri a w w srted trto mak m m sandwichndwi andiv dereliv that town g twnd zer z a differeif points, but witit 24 hours, th theth t couple of colleague chefs, the chef at the

time, was a friend with the people of the spirit of new york, and asked them to give us a boat and put it right on the dock at ground zero and within 24 hours, we build-out an entire team of supporters and chefs, and danny meyer and his team, with at the time not without anymore, myself and many many other chefs, we had a tender in chelsea helping us bringing all of the food, the supplies, the staff, the water, down to the boat by the marina next to ground zero, and that was a fantastic move, we had three decks on the boat, and we were feeding all day long , all night long, everyone who came down to help the rescue

neil: they would often say your food in particular, that's the good stuff, get the good stuff, but daniel, i was thinking -- >> in a time when you need courage and when you need something, there's nothing better than good food to help you heal, in a way, and help you stay strong. neil: no, you're right. i remember too, these weren't great times in the restaurant industry, obviously nobody was eating out and of course for a while new york was all but lockdown and here, 20 years later you had to deal with the pandemic, the same kind of thing so when i hear and talk to a lot of young people they say the restaurants are going through so much and i said they were doing the same thing, or going through all of that 20 years prior, particularly in the new york area, so it must seem like, you know, your industry is always tested. >> very much, and i think we always come out winning the challenge, and i think it's

never an equal challenge, but it's always rewarding to see how much the staff, the team, goes into a real supporting mode, and i saw during the pandemic, we did a lot of work with food first foundation, and here in new york and i have cooked hundreds of thousands of meals, and we have provided a lot of meals and that is just, you know , everyone has to do what it can do in order to bring a little bit more to what maybe is existing already. neil: it's amazing and it's always amazing chef you're way too modest to talk about your unique role in all that but i thank you, i'm sure a lot of men and women from 20 years back and on and to this day thank you. >> it was really really emotional, but at the same time,

you take a lot of pride in in generosity and put all of that to terms. our friends are our heros in this town because they were all heros, the people down in ground zero helping. neil: they were indeed. well you're a hero in your own right but chef daniel boulud, thank you very very much. >> thank you. neil: we like to ill truss late these stories because of all of the horror so much good came out and we'll reveal that in interviewed then and now of people who refused to succumb to the evil and the horror and the depression around them, and the good chef's case and he might have forgotten this line attributed to him that when workers were talking about the huge task ahead of feeding thousands of people, he simply said well, let's start. and they did.

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neil: all right, we know later on today the president is going to outline a more aggressive push to eradicate these spikes in cases we've been seeing of covid among the things he's going to outline is a broad vaccination mandate and for federal workers making it mandatory, just some of the things he's considering to deal with the spike that still worries folks. let's go to dr. matt mccarthy, the race to stop the economic, that's the book, the cornell medicine associate professor. doctor, good to have you. this idea first of a mandate to get the vaccine and for federal workers and to sort of strong arm it for others what do you think of that? >> well, you know, we've given people a chance to get the vaccine on their own and a lot of people did and what we're seeing is that these vaccine mandates are actually helping to get some people to do it so i certainly support the president's plan to do that

for federal workers, but i'm really eager to hear what else is going to be mentioned in this plan tonight. we're hearing about a six-prong ed approach certainly going to involve more testing and masks, but i want to see how the mandate fits into sort of the broader portfolio of the speech and how we get through the delta wave. neil: you know, doctor, i worry, like you about the number of people still not been vaccinated and the numbers are inarguable. 99.9% of the cases in hospitals and deaths are among those who have not been vaccinated and it extremes, in this country, it extremes at other countries and in bulgaria, the highest incidents of cases, it's not coincidental that it also has the lowest percentage of vaccinated residents and yet, we see that data, we hear that data we're exposed to that data time and again, and people aren't getting vaccinated. what's the deal? >> yeah, i mean, i see covid

patients almost every day of my adult life as a practicing physician, and then i go and i talk to people who are vaccine hesitant or who don't want to get vaccinated and the pitch that i make to them is i say that when i see patients in the hospital with covid, they're not vaccinated. it's not healthy adults who are fully vaccinated who are lining up in droves. we know these vaccines are working. there's a lot of misinformation out there. i'm not a paid spokesman for any pharmaceutical company or any vaccine maker. i can tell you that these vaccines have fundamentally changed my job as a doctor. i am not seeing healthy adults who are fully vaccinated showing up in the emergency room with symptomatic covid. this has been a game changer for us and we're trying to get the message out. there's a lot of noise. i know people are, you know, getting bombarded with the misinformation or disinformation about how the vaccines aren't quite what

they'vevery been marketed as but i can tell you from firsthand experience, my experience today is fundamentally different than it was before the vaccines, and, you know, i think the vaccine mandate is really the path forward. what we're going to be seeing over the next year is how these vaccine mandates spread to kids, because i know a lot of adults who are perfectly fine getting the vaccine and they're not so sure they want to have their kid get it and i think that is going to be the big thing for 2022, and then lastly, how do we get out of this? we've been in a pandemic for 18 months with no end in sight so what i want to see from the biden speech tonight is do we have an off ramp? is there some sort of projection for when this will all end, because as an infectious disease guy, i know that this virus is not going to simply go away. we're not going to reach a herd immunity where we say voila , it's gone. we're going to be living with it and how do we live with it and what is the plan there so those are the things i want to

see if we can get that we'll get more buy-in from people to say you know what okay. i'll go and do these things he's asking right now because there is an off ramp in the future. neil: that's well put and to your point, you're the medical expert by far but i'm the number s guy and when i see a number like 99.9%, it's the un vaccinated who are dealing with this right now. that's pretty compelling, doctor thank you very very much. >> thank you. neil: all right, turning our attention right now to what's going on about the source and the origins of covid itself, especially what was going on in that wuhan lab before any of this hit the fan. what we knew, what the chinese knew, the latest from rich ed son at the state department. rich? >> neil we've got a look at some documents that come from grant proposals from the national institutes of health. essentially what they had here was u.s. government money going to a u.s. agency called ego health alliance that would then send that money and spend that

money in labs in wuhan. this is all courtesy of a publication called the intercept , which sued the national institutes of health to get this information. some of the grant proposals that we're hearing about one of them shows research on manipulating cells in mice to display human cell features all done in a wuhan lab at a biosafety level i ii, not biosafety level i v. republicans are looking into these grants and they say documents show the u.s. funded some pretty dangerous research here. >> we've learned that these risky research projects make a lab leak a plausible theory as to the origins of covid-19, and that ego health alliance. >> so dr. richard ebright, a molecular by all o gist at rutger's university we asked him about these documents and he tells us they made clear the as

irritations by into i had director francis collins and nai d director anthony fauci that the into i had did not support gain of function research or potential pathogen enhancement are untruthful and gain of function is the process where researchers can make virus es more dangerous to humans so that researchers can study them. in response to all this , the national institutes of health tells us, " nih has never approved any research that would make a coronavirus more dangerous to humans. the research we supported in china sought to understand the behavior of coronaviruses circulating in bats that have the potential to cause widespread disease." republicans in the house energy and commerce committee say they are looking for more information in all this and more documents from nih. neil? neil: rich, thank you for that very much, we're just getting word from the white house it says the taliban's cooperation in this charter flight rescue has been "business-like and professional" and a positive first step. what does that mean?

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cooperation saying it was business-like and professional, a positive first step. how does dan hoffman feel about that the former cia station chief in russia, fox news contributor. what do you think, dan? >> i don't feel too great about that. we don't have any state department consolate officers on the ground to monitor how exactly our own citizens are departing the country and they aren't out there. our own government officials aren't there to protect our own people, and defend their interests. i don't even know that we have a real clear understanding of whose actually waiting to get on the aircraft both americans and afghan citizens, so there's information here and i think the biden administration should be weary of making definitive statements like that without having all the facts. neil: do you think that the taliban will be helpful? forget about trying to get the tens of thousands who were supposedly in afghanistan out of afghanistan, but what

would compel them to do so? >> well, i think the taliban considers the americans in country as well as afghan sib holders and remember there's a lot of them i don't know that we know exactly how many but there's a lot to be leverage. it was the united states decision, it was our strategy, our policy, to withdraw our military force, and close our embassy before we extracted our citizens from harms way, and the taliban, i think, will take advantage of that. they will dial up the pressure if they need to, and they will release a little bit of the pressure if they need to. i think what they want is to be recognized as the lawful government of the country. that's tricky to do because they've got a designated terrorist as their minister of interior and i would certainly argue that for the united states and our allies it be hopefully for this administration, a bridge too far to recognize the taliban government as a legitimate government of afghanistan. neil: real quickly, do you think

this could start to deteriorate and this could turn into a hostage situation, if things don't go just right? >> i think our people are kind of almost in a hostage situation they're on the x right now at great risk from isis attacks, from al qaeda attack, and we're not there to get them out of harms way and to me that's the danger of the situation that we're faced with right now. neil: got it. dan, very good catching up with you dan hoffman following this we'll continue following this as well, stay with us you're watching fox business. it's another day. and anything could happen. . . get ready for it all with an advanced network

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