crazy white radicals, adding a gross racial insult to the injury. one of the attackers was dressed up as an ape. liberal racism, there's no other word for it, is, unfortunately, alive and dangerous and evil. that's it for tonight. we'll see you back here tomorrow. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ elizabeth: okay, the breaking news tonight, president biden pushing for covid vaccine is mandates for federal workers and private sector workers. this as -- is a supreme court fight in the making. more democrat voters disapprove. the updates on the taliban letting americans and other foreigners leave afghanistan, but the state department confirms americans are still being blocked. theyon don't know how many are still stranded. the republicans ramping up probes into the largest government abandonment of u.s. citizens and allies left behind

enemy lines in u.s. history are. joining us tonight, senator marsha blackburn, dr. marty makary, former ceo andy puzder, ford o'connell, congressmen tim burr jet and august pfluger, also deneen borelli. this after gop pressure to testify on afghanistan, we've got the details surfacing on biden officials including secretary of state antony blinken and jen psaki praising as, quote, worth it right after the obama administration exchanged five terrorists from gitmo for bowe bergdahl. four of them are joining other terrorists on the fbi watch list inside the taliban government, potentially accessing abandoned u.s. intelligence, weaponry, military, vehicles. some of that stuff showing up in iran. that that's according to reports.ep and also moderate house democrats starting to defect

from president biden's $3.5 trillion spending and tax bill. plus this, more trump appointees joining kellyanne conway, general jack keane, sean spicer saying, no, we're not going to quit. kellyanne conway saying, mr. president, you should resign. also the white house press secretary trying to deny what more and more government documents plainly show, that, yes, dr. fauci did fund constructionid of genetically-altered supervirus ises in china despite denying that to congress. dr. fauci has written op-eds saying, yeah, do this. admitting to congress he does not track how china spends u.s. money. republicans demanding probes of this too. to the california gubernatorial recall,fo more on the attack byn angry mob on black conservative and gop candidate larry elder. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the

evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome to the show, you're watching the fox business network. we begin with the breaking news, president biden speaking a short time ago at the white house officially announcing federal workers will have no choice but to be vaccinated or face termination. he's also pushing for vaccine mandates for private sector workers as well. edward lawrence has more in washington. >> reporter: hey, liz. president biden says it's not about freedom or personal choice, it's about protecting those around you and others as well as yourself. the president made these comments as he outlined the six-pronged approach that includes mandates, as you said, federal workers and contractors now have 75 days to get vaccinated, or they could lose their job. the president if also pushing public p venues to follow the se route. listen to this.o >> to those of you running large entertainment venues and sports arenas, concert venues to movie

theaters, pleasele require folks to get vaccinated or show a negative test as a condition of entry. >> reporter: the plan the president laid out continues maskingnd mandates for travel across state lines. it would double the fines for anyone breaking that mandate. the plan directs osha to mandate that any company with 100-plus eeemployees insure vaccinationsr have weekly tests. the cost would be on the company, and it would affect 80 million workers. on schools the plan requires people to be employed in head start and those programs that are government funded to be vaccinated. the president then calls on statements to require schools -- states to require school employees, including teachers, to be vaccinated. school systems should have regular testing for all kids aged kindergarten through 12th grade. >> we know that if schools follow the science and implement the safety measures like testing, masking, adequate ventilation systems which we

provided the money for, social distancing and vaccinations, children can be safe from covid-19 in schools. >> reporter: the osha rule could go in effect in the next couple of weeks, it could be $14,000 in fines per violation if they're found to be breaking it. back to you. elizabeth: let's welcome to the show fox news contributor dr. marty makary, former labor secretary nominee andy puzder. first to you, doctor. this is plainly a supreme court fight. the public health dictates belong to the states according to the supreme court. that's a century-old ruling. do you see this fight forcing osha to get public -- excuse me, private sector workers vaccinated, do you think this is headed to the supreme court? >> well, it does sound like there is some authority with medicareed requiring nursing hos and hospitals as a condition of participation to require vaccinations and maybe with osha. that side of it i'm not as familiar with.

but i can tell you i believe in vaccines, but that speech today framed the issue incorrectly. we don't have a pandemic of the unvaccinated, we have a pandemic of the non-immune. and the way in which natural immunity was never mentioned once despite the fact that maybe a third or half of those unvaccinated, that's something we've got to recognize, and people have a good reason maybe to avoid vaccination especially from my health care workers who were out there getting covid when they were taking care of patients last year. elizabeth: andy, osha does not have the legal authority to require privatere sector workers to get vaccinated. the supreme court has already ruled that. district court rulings show that. this is going to be a major legal fight. how do you see it playing out? >> i think it's another, it's another attempt by the biden administration to try and get something done before the supreme court rules, remember, they did that very recently with their attempts to extend the eviction moratorium. and i think they know that this

isn't constitutional. they know they don't have the authority to do m this. but at least, you know, at least biden's tryingut to look like hs doing something. he was very critical of president trump during the campaign, he said it's been eight months and, you know, what plan do you have? we're still having problems with covid. well, in a couple of weeks it'll htbe eight months that he's been president, and this is the first plan he has come up with that wasn't something president trump didn't i have in the works. i think he's trying to look like he's doing something, but i don't think he looks very good coming out of this. elizabeth: to what andy is saying, doctor, you know, after president biden won the election, and he said this in december 2020, he said, quote: i don't think covid vaccines should be mandatory. the press secretary said, quote: it's not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccinations. now the press secretary is saying, yeah, the labor department does have that power. we hear what you're saying about medicare rules, but the

sweeping, across-the-board forcing private sector companies to do this or be fined, that violates constitutional powers given to the states, doctor. >> everybody thought that a vaccine mandate outside of essentiall workers, say in the hospital, was excessive until dr. zeke emmanuel represented it in a new york times op-ed. that op-ed came out the day that j&j was pulled off the shelf, so it became sort of a low-level conversation, and it resurged now with the delta variant. let's say you put a mandate in place. it's goingante to take at leasta few weeks for people to get it, then itt takes time for the immune system to kick in. delta is projected to peak any day now, it's peaked already in missouri and arkansas, so it may be too little too late. elizabeth: the president's saying, andy, that many are frustrated 80 million are still not vaccinated. we have public health officials like dr. fauci, andy, going on

camera talking about variants but not telling the american people that the u.s. government has only yes netically tested -- genetically tested 1.7% of covid samples for variants. we rank 22nd in the world, behind latvia, slovenia and the democratic republic of congo in testingam for variants. people are concerned about the dangers and the side effects of vaccines. so when he says 80 million are still not vaccinated and many are frustrated, what's your reaction to that, andy? >> well, you know, i agree with dr. makary. i think he's ignoring the fact that a lot of those people in the 80 million probably have natural immunity which is probably better than the advantagehe seen, and the delta variant, the research i've seen, it's not more deadly. given the number of people that have been vaccinated, we've actually got the death rate and hospitalizations downat from whe they were at the peak of the

original covid virus. so, look, this -- a lot of -- this covid thing has been political from the beginning, a lot of this is political, and i'm aur little surprised presidt biden went this far because i think what he's doing is going to have a negative impact on employment which is already a big problem for him. so, look, i think he's trying to do the best he can, but i just don't think he has any idea what todo do, and he's way beyond his powers as president to try and look like he's doing something. we'll see what happens. elizabeth: scientists understand and people say, yes, vaccinations work, there's just at lot of questions out there about that. and, doctor, the question is why now? we have democrat strategists telling politico that president biden was supposed to be, quote, a return to normalcy. polls show voters feel the u.s. is going in the wrong direction. there's a lot of i chaotic decision making going on. let's watch president biden again suggest he's not calling the shots. watch this. >> now, i'm supposed to stop and walk out of the room here.

if. [laughter] i'm going to stop, but with your permission, i'm going to walk into the room because i want to say hello. i'd be happy to take questions if that's what i'm supposed to do -- i'm going to get in trouble if i don't do this right way. ladies and gentlemen, they gave me a list here. the first person i was instructed to call on was kelly o'donnell of nbc. i'm not supposed to take any questions, but go ahead. elizabeth:iz doctor, your reactn to that in light of the president saying, again, after hehe won the election, i don't thinkd covid vaccines should be mandatory and his press secretary saying early on it's not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccines. your reaction in light of what you just heard. >> l mandates polarize issues, d there are a fair amount of people out there who just don't want to do things the government pushes on them. that's the problem with mandates. i get it, people have regrets when they're in the hospital, but you win more bees with honey

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♪ elizabeth: the taliban letting other foreign nationals leave afghanistan. security experts warning this is a potential hostage crisis in the making. many americans are still stuck there unable to evacuate. trey yingst iss in qatar with more. >> reporter: liz, we have some positive news. 113 foreign citizens landing here in doha today after escaping afghanistan. if onboardni that flight were american, canadian, ukrainian, german and british citizens, the passengers landing in qatar after a treacherous journey to get to the airport, but sources do tell fox news the ca qataris helped to create a safety corridor to get these people out of country.

reports indicate the hamid karzai international airport could be operational for international flights within three days. this comes after tense negotiations behind the scenes between the taliban, qatar and turkey. there are major obstacles to having the taliban in control of entry points and the terminals. according to "the wall street journal," americans who are stuck in the northern city of mazar-e-sharif were told to come to the afghan capital of kabul today. it's unclear though how many people made that journey to this flight that ended up in doha. protests continue in cities across afghanistan. out of kabul yesterday, disturbing images of taliban fighters hitting journalists and womenur who were simply trying o protest. it gives you a sense of what the demonstrators and civilians are now dealing with on the ground with the taliban in control. liz? elizabeth: trey yingst, thank you so much. joining us now, senator marsha a

blackburn, senate armed services. those images are really graphic streaming out on the internet. the president's approval ratings have collapsed to 39%, that's according to an economist/u-gov poll. democrats don't approve of what the president is doing. so we don't know how many americans are still stranded there. what do you m say to all of thi? >> i say it is completely unacceptable that we are this far into this, and they still cannot tell you how many americans are there, how many of our siv holders are there, how many applicants are there, who among our nato allies are there. people just do not know. and thed good work that is being done is now being done by individuals who are veterans who are going in to get americans, to get these siv holders and get them out of the country and away

from the violence and the terror and potential loss of life that isis-k, the taliban, al-qaeda are planning to take out on people that were friendly to the nato countries, that were friendly to the united states, that worked with us and helped in this war on terror. elizabeth: you know, the administration's still unclear on the number of americans trapped. voters out there are saying to each other, you know, according to the polls, why did you leave dand not know how many americas were still behind, and the white housee is still blocking 26 senate republicans including susan collins and tom cotton from finding out how many americans are still trapped rebehind terror lines. we've got the pentagon chief and joint chiefs chair testifying before your senate armed services committee coming up in a couple weeks. what do you want to ask them? >> oh, i'm going to be asking was there a withdrawal plan, did

that plan include leaving americans, our afghan partners and our allies behind enemy lines? did it include turning over bagram airfield and all of the equipment, the billions -- tens of billions of dollars in equipment? did it include giving that to the taliban to arm them up? did they think about the implications of having a war on terror, fighting an ideology and terrorists and now what do you do? you give them a country where they can say now we have a safe haven. we can begin to export terrorism. did you think about china and the ties to china? and china wanting those rare earth minerals that we put time into doing all the mapping on where they're located? did you think about that? did you think about giving china a t direct route into tehran?

did you think about china, russia, iran, north korea being the axis of evil, and who do they support? they support the taliban. elizabeth: yeah, we hear you on that, senator. you know, it's the rhetoric that americans are reacting negatively to in the polls against the white house. watch this. >> with regard to the composition of this government or interim government, i noted the fact that it certainly does not meet the test of inclusivity, and it includes people who have very challenging track records. >> i do think that the historic evacuation of 120,000 people was remarkable, and i commend the administration for that. this is never easy. it's not always complete right rifrom the start, but it was remarkable even though it got off to a hazy start.

elizabeth: got off to a hazy start? 13 of our troops, 13 u.s. soldiers killed by terrorist suicide bombers. is that a, quote, hazy start? >> oh, the conduct, the words, the disinterested nature, the callousness of actually caring about americans that were there in afghanistan, about caring for and caring about these troops that were killed and their families, it is astounding to me. and i will tell you that i fully believe the reason the american people have done such an about face on joe biden, this administration, nancy pelosi and chuck schumer is because they sound as if they do not give a ripping flip about protecting the american people against terrorism. all they want to do is pass their infrastructure bill, pass

bernie sanders' budget, continue with their social isist agenda so -- socialist agenda so they can turn us into a socialist nation, and they will have achieved nirvana. government control of everything. it is misplaced priorities. the american people are figuring them out, and we're going of to have to buckle down and block bthis and keep a lot of bad things from happening between now and thend '22 election. elizabeth: senator, you've got your work cut out for you. senator marsha blackburn, thanks for joining us. up next, gop strategist ford o'connell. we've got more trump appointees joining kellyanne conway and general jack keane saying, no, we won't quit, after the president is trying to fire them from military boards. kellyanne conway saying you, mr. president, you should resign is. why is the president doing this during the afghan crisis? keep itt here on "the evening edit." >> i think it's imperative that

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♪ elizabeth: joining us now, gop strategist ford o'connell. ford, president biden is facing questions over why now, why is he now firing 11 trump appointees from military advisory boards including generall jack keane, sean spice, kellyanne conway? why now? >> well, look, there's no question about it, this is very petty and vindictive. ande, customarily, appointees to these boards serve three years. when it comes down to it, this just happens to be a raw political power move so the biden administration can steer attention away from afghanistan. elizabeth: youab know, president trump, it's been said is, didn't fire obama appointees, right? i mean, now you've got general jack keane, kellyanne conway saying, no, we're not going to quit, and kellyanne conway is saying you, mr. president, you should be fired. >> well, they should absolutely not quit, and they should fight this. ii believe that there's never been a case of this situation

that's ever been adjudicated, so tip my hat to jack keane and to kellyanne conway. to your point, e. mac, the biden administration says this is not about partyty registration, but it's about qualifications. if that's the case, i think you'd be hard pressed to ever find two more qualified than four-star general jack keane and former national security adviser h.r. master.at i'm willing to bet they are probably the two most qualifieds people to ever serve on these boards. elizabeth: yeah. theye won multiple distinguished awards as well. you know, the fight's going to be whether the president even has the power to do this. he's trying the fire them and kick them off boards like the west point academy -- air force academy, west point. russ vaughn saying you can't do this, and sean spicer is joining reportedly a lawsuit against this. do you think that'lldl work? >> look, i hope it does work. and i think that this is a very underreported story because there's also another narrative going on underneath.

there's a real raging battle in thee military about how the woke agenda harms military readiness, and i think the biden administration wants to chuck theru 11 trump appointees and appoint their own people and, frankly, regardless of your political partisan space, as americans we should be more concerned about a military who's prepared to engage the enemy rather than what politics and pronouns they may use. elizabeth: you know, you make an interesting point. so you're saying that there's a military reason for why the biden white housen is trying to do this purge, because they don't like the positions of those they're trying to get rid of, right? is thatig what you're trying to say? because you see these elbow shots coming out, the white house press secretary, for example, saying people can debate whether or not sean spicer and kellyanne conway, they can decide if those two individuals were qualified to be on these boards. you're saying, you know, set the elbow shots aside, that this is

a deeper story about what the biden administration doesn't like in terms of the positions of these appointees, right? >> that's exactly right. they're holding out sean spicer and kellyanne conway as scapegoats because people know them who are partisans. but -- and the reality is, again, within the military there's raging debate about readiness and whether or not we are capable particularly in the navy of being able to fight the gchinese should it come to that. and the reason why there's some doubt about it is because of the woke, p.c. agenda that you often talk about that's taking place in boardrooms and is taking place in colleges and high schools across this country. it's, unfortunately, seeping into the s military as well. and many of these appointees, particularly jack keane, he's been vocal about the dangers of that in terms of military readiness. elizabeth: all right. ford o'connell, great stuff there. we're going to have you back again soon. up next, congressman tim burchett from foreign affairs,

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function research, constructing genetically-engineered viruses in china, and republicans are demanding probes. everybody knows it's happening, why still try to deny this? >> i don't know. it's clear, though, that hillary clinton's not advising this white house, because she would have is already deleted these emails. look, my buddy, rand paul, he ought to get a pulitzer prize, because he really uncovered this weeks ago, and if you remember, they tried to degrade and denounce him just like they have every time somebody's tried to come out with something against this white house or fauci for that matter. the c communist government coved it up, doctors disappeared, researchers disappeared, press people disappeared. fauci said it couldn't break out are from a lab but, of course, it did. i guess you've got to ask yourself why are american taxpayers paying for research on a disease that formerly did not exist and to create one that could leak from animals to humans? and they even have lists in the lab, apparently, of people that

were bitten by the lab bats. so it's totally out of control. elizabeth: yeah. >> and congress needs to investigate, get to the bottom -- if we will, i don't know, because speaker pelosi, of course, she does not want any more bad press -- elizabeth: 650,000 americans are dead. okay, sars and a mers is, they found a natural origin of those viruses. they haven't found the covid-19 virus yet in nature. haven't found it yet. this is ten times the speed of infectiousness than those other viruses. "the washington post," the intercept getting hundreds of pages of government documents showing, i yeah, dr. fauci and e nih did approve millions of dollars in u.s. funding of this dangerous, supervirus research. at minimum, why does it need -- why doin you need to have foia documents and requests? why do you need to pry this information out when it's u.s. taxpayer money, and it's u.s.

taxpayers ats risk? >> that's a great question. i think the bigger question is, is why is fauci still hanging on? and the answer to that is so that he can keep this covered up, because if the truth comes out about this, he will be guilty of a crime. obviously, he's guilty of lying to congress, but further these deaths areon going to be on somebody's hands. and,bo unfortunately, the amerin taxpayers are the ones that seem to be footing the bill for it. it goes to another problem of how big our spending is that we don't even know where this money has come from or that we even approved it, yet apparently we did because we spent it in communist china. there's a lot of answers that we've got to get the answers to, but the problem is we've got to have a hearing. and washington takes its sweet time. it'll be six months before we have a hearing, we'll be moved on to the next calamity because -- elizabeth: you know -- >> go ahead. elizabeth: dr. fauci could have testified, yes, i said in 2011 and in other op-eds, create dangerous viruses in a lab for

vaccines. scientists say you don't need to do that. he's saying the risks -- excuse me, the benefits outweigh the risks. he said all of that. we're seeing tens of millions of dollars out of the pentagon, out of the nih, out of, you know, other agencies going toward ecohealth alliance and going toward this research for more than a decade. and dr. fauci admitted he does not track how china spends u.s. money. so there's a lot at stake here, and what his cover is going to be is that it's not gain of function research because he's deciding what that definition is so he doesn't have to abide by it, right, and dodge accountability. >> absolutely. elizabeth: let's watch senator paul on this. watch. >> we're still funding that lab today? >> well, that's what these new documents show us, that they have another set of funding that's going to last from

2020-2025. but just in august i passed a unanimous amendment to stop it. you know, dr. fauci's been asked about this. edsenator kennedy asked him in committee, do you trust the scientists, and he said that's where the viruses are. we have to and we have to keep investing there. what if they leaked? what if it originated, they knew it all along and failed to tell us, would we still not -- would dr. fauci not reassess his trust of the chinese communists and their lab? elizabeth: your reaction to that, congressman? >> clearly dr. fauci is just lying. and rand paul had the goods on him early on, and that's why the national media were so quick to paul.dit rand it's really bad. elizabeth: got it. congressman tim burchett, thank you so much for joining us. it's good to see you. okay. we will next take you to california. look at this. larry elder and his team attacked, had eggs thrown at them, reportedly a pellet

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♪ elizabeth: let's welcome back to the show fox news contributor deneen borelli. it's great to see you again. when you saw california candidate y for governor larry gelder, he's a black conservate in the california recall race, he and his security detail attacked with a pellet gun and had eggs thrown at them, what was your first reaction? >> liz, this is utterly

despicable. this attack against larry elder because he is a black conservative, look, this attack was criminal, dangerous and reckless, and we will likely see more of it because these democrats are desperate and out of control. where's the accountability? we will likely see more of this. remember how the fbi, they were all over the jussie smollett case and what was happening? and that turned out to be a hoax. meanwhile, this attack is not a hoax, liz. i think this is just downright despicable, and i i really do he something happens to these individuals. elizabeth: if larry elder was a democrat attacked by a republican wearing a gorilla mask, how would the media react? >> yeah. all day long it would be breaking news for weeks, liz. and, you know, larry elder is a black conservative. he doesn't fit the narrative of the liberal media, and another

point is where's al sharpton? if he didn't parachute in with this situation, where's black lives heart? they're still around. not a peep out of them because that force would certainly have hithis on the front page headlis and breaking news. they don't care about black conservatives. theyey despise black conservatives, liz. myself included. if they could do away with us and put us away and shut us down, that is their goal, that is what they want to do. that's why they intimidate, and that's why they are violent towards people who have a difference of opinion. elizabeth: deneen, how have you been intimidated? >> i have been intimidated ever since i started talking about personal responsibility and limited government, liz, from name calling to telling my parents that they should be slapped and that someone should jump out and deal with me. i have had things said to me that i cannot say on national television. but trustle me, they think thati

will go away or back down, it's not gonna happen because i ams not going to be intimidated by anyone because i have a difference of opinion. they're out of their mind if they think i'm going away. elizabeth: so, deneen, you've been doing this work for so long and larry elder as well, when you see how the political debate unfolds in this country, what is your sense of how whether it's -- how republicans are open to other ideas and other ways of thinking versus how democrats react? >> well, there you have it because democrats want to shut you down. they don't want to debate anything. and what do they do when they're losinghe the debate? they play the race card. if you're white, you're a racist. if you're black, you're a token, you're a sellout, you're a traitor. so they have all thehe bases covered, liz, when they want to get their voice heard, push their point, push their narrative on you. and then in turn, they don't want to listen to what you have to say, so they resort to name calling.

it's weak, and this is what they've been doing for many years. elizabeth: if not dangerous, right? because this got physical with larry elder, right? and where is the white house -- should the white house come out and condemn this? >> well, you know they're not going to do that because that will turn up their radical base against biden and against kamala harris. they're not going to voice anything about this. hiif they do, i would be very surprised, but i don't see it happening because they don't want to wake sleeping giant that controls them. elizabeth: all right. deneen borelli, so sorry you've endured all of this, but your point of view, we always love ithearing it. it's very smart, very good and spot on. come back soon. it's nice to have you on. okay, up next, house foreign affairs and homeland security member, congressman august pfluger, with growing security concerns in the wake of the botched afghan pullout, the secretary of state will be testifying, taking the hot seat before congress coming up. we've got dozens of republicans saying to the president stop the rushed vetting of afghans coming

in. we've got unvetted refugees leaving u.s. bases in ride-hailing app cars? keep it here on "the evening edit." ♪ >> border security is national security, and when you look at the disaster, the catastrophe in afghanistan, there are literally of tens of thousands of people that haven't been vetted. ♪ ♪

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♪ elizabeth: joining us now, house foreign affairs and homeland security member, he is congressman august pfluger. congressman, it's great to have you on. okay, the secretary of state, antony blinken, will kick off two daysan of testimony before congress starting on monday, first before your committee, house foreign affairs. we, we're living in history right now. this is the biggest abandonment of any u.s. government of americans behind enemy lines. what do you want to ask the secretary of state on monday? >> well, you're right. it's just such a tragedy as we approach the 20th anniversary of 9/11 for all of those who sacrificed,, many of whom i know that gave the ultimate sacrifice, and now we have a secretary of state and a president who seem okay with the rising levels of terrorism, with the complete botched withdrawal

leaving americans and other afghans who helped us for 20 years behind. so the first question is going to be how are you, mr. secretary, going to triage this situation and get the remaining americans and sivs home in we're still in contact with many people in afghanistan, afghans who are trying to get out, pilots and their families that are hiding from the taliban right now. we know that there's a major who has been appointed as a cabinet member inside the taliban government. this is unacceptable. we don't partner with terrorists, and and the haqqani network is dangerous, they're real. and i want to know from secretary blinken what he intends to do about it. we do not want to recognize that government as a legitimate government because they do practice terrorism. elizabeth: congressman, they will be bringing talking points and a lot of rhetoric. they're very adept at talking around a question. will you be able to drill past that and nail it down and ask them, anthony -- the secretary

of state, specifically what were the exit plans and why did you abandon president trump's deal with the taliban saying you've got to cut off al-qaeda, you've got to do much more before we will deal with you? will you be able to nail secretary of state blinken down on all of that? >> well, it's doubtful that they're going to answer in a truthful way. and i think that the after-action and the accountability, it's paramount that we get to p that. but right now there are still people trapped behind enemy lines. we want to put them on the record tord understand what he's going to do about those folks and how he's going to get them out. you know, we just -- i spent the day y yesterday and today in new york city at ground zero, at the world trade center. we met with new york city police and fire, detectives, folks in charge of counterterrorism. they are very worried. debacle9 that the biden u.s. ta.

the u.s. taxpayer doesn't work for them. they're in a position of power. it's not about holding on to their own power, it's about how are you using your power in service to the taxpayer who you pledged and promised to defend and protect, and you swore an oath to that. you enough to got 41 -- you've to got 41 republicans sending a letter to the president saying you're doing incomplete vetting of thousands of afghans. listen, we're an open arms nation, but they're worried because they have military bases in their district, and you have republican representativee, mark green saying he's hearing they're taking ride-hailing apps and leaving u.s. bases without any vetting. >> well, it just goes in line with every aspect of this

administration which is they are opening us up as americans, as taxpayers, to every possible threat out there whether it's economic threat, the border crisis that we see, now the afghanistan debacle, and you're right to say that we need answers. and mark green -- elizabeth: and accountability. >> we need -- elizabeth: -- for botching this withdrawal. so what's the accountability? >> well, i think right now we need to understand what the process is to make sure that we don't have people that slip throughsl the cracks, that they don't takehe ride-sharing apps. s.you know, we actually asked, s a memberd to go over and physicy pverify and have oversight, congressional oversight on that process, and they denied it. the democrats flat out denied it under the guise of it's too hard for f us to do right now. we need that oversight at the lily pad, bases around the world, we need it at the bases here in the united states. it has to happen, and they're flat out denying it. elizabeth congressman, we'll be watching. we're going to report on the

secretary of state testifying before congress on both monday and tuesday to see how he performs in congress and whether he's honest and transparent and truthful and stops with talking points. congressman august pfluger, thank you so much for joining us. and thank you for watching. i'm elizabeth macdonaldment you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. a join us again tomorrow night, and we hope you have a good evening. larry: welcome back to "kudlow." i'm larry kudlow. again tonight we turn to the reckless budget reconciliation plan that's under discussion in congress now. of course i continue to argue that passage of this five trillion dollar monstrosity will economy. you've got massive