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business tonight." first our top story. president biden unveiling a shocking affront to our history and freedoms by mandating vaccinations. having osha to insure their workers with more than 100 employees are vaccinated. the mandate the administration said it would not and could not impose a mandate for the vaccine. edward, when i heard your reporting on this i couldn't believe it. it was quite a shocker. >> the president said it's not about personal choice or freedom. he's pushing the mandate on vaccines and in some sectors, masks. a president-elect biden said he did not support mask mandates.

federal workers and contractors have to be vaccinated within 75 days. all medical workers receiving federal reimbursement need to be vaccinated. the big issue about be using osha to force companies to get workers vaccinated. >> the constitutional issues to me might not be as simple as the simple statute that requires osha to show a grave danger and the emergency standard is necessary. some of the statements we heard from the administration that masks work. if masks work, is vaccine and testing necessary? >> 11 state governors and the rnc planning legal action over this vaccine mandate. osha is mandating businesses

with 100 employees to have vaccination or do weekly testing. those rules could go into effect immediately. governor pete rickets pushed back. >> workers call me and tell me how much of a burden this will be and for workers saying hey, this is something i want to make a personal health choice about. i don't want the federal government mandating to me. we'll look at everything we can do to push back against this. >> it cop affect some 80 million workers in private business. david: joining us to discuss this is andy mccarthy. first of all, the president himself and his minions said this couldn't be done a couple

weeks and months ago. let me play a couple sound bites and get your reaction. >> should vaccines be mandatoryn? >> no, i don't any they should be hands tory. just like i don't think masks should be mandated nationwide. i will do everything in my federal power to encourage people to do the right thing. >> that's not the role of the government. it's something private industry may do and that's appropriate. david: do you agree with biden then or now? >> it's becoming a pattern. basically the white house said it seemed like minutes before biden issued his mandate on the eviction moratorium, the white house conceded there was no legal authority for it and he decide to do it anyway. i don't think you can trust what they say from one minute to the

next because a lot of this is being done for informative' reasons and enforcement reasons. he's falling in the polls and trying to shore up his support to show he's doing on but there isn't a lot of thought going into it. david: you think it's all performance? he doesn't expect it to end up as an osha mandate businesses have to adhere to? >> the fact that they are using an emergenci' resolution. they aren't even complying with the administrative procedure act because they don't want a period of public commentary with respect to this regulation. he knows if he did it by executive order it would be shot

down instantly. the supreme court said in the case involving the eviction moratorium, if the federal government wants to regulate in an area that is traditionally a state regulated area, they have to show that congress has been precise and unambiguous that the federal government can do the action it wants to take. david: a lot of businesses out there, a lot of them are right on the edge with just over a hundred people working for them. they are starting to freak out and say, they don't note legal e legalese you do. they are trying to see if they can afford to pay for the testing, et cetera. are you telling them don't worry about it because it won't pass muster with the supreme court? >> i wish i could tell them that. but this administration in bad

faith they are trying to use court processes, even when they know they are ultimately in the wrong. they are using court processes as a way to strong arm people into taking action. i can sit here all dane say what the supreme court is going to do. until the supreme court does it, we don't know. this is an obama tactic from back when. you don't have to comply with the law if usual in a position to change the facts on the grounds by abusing the powers of the government. i think that's what they are doing. david: not only his tone from yesterday of -- waving his finger at everybody. he said this isn't about freedom or personal choice. it's about protecting yourself. people say this is exactly about with freedom and personal choice. this is an affront to freedom

and personal choice. they don't seem to get that. they say it's all about positioning. but they are positioning themselves against a huge swath of americans. >> they do get it. the president knows that. everything you just said the president knows. that's the reason why when he was first asked he said no, i don't think you should impose a mandate. i don't know if he knows his own minds. but he does know people think this is an area much personal responsibility and agency. david: your involvement in the first bombing of the world trade center in 1993. deadly bombing, 6 people killed. you were involved in the prosecution of the blinds sheik who was associated with 9/11. but he died in jail.

when you were working on that case did you get a sense something much bigger than the '93 bombing was planned? >> yes. there were only six adults killed in the attack. i believe one woman was 7 1/2 months pregnant. it was a 1,400 pound chemical explosive that should have killed many more people than it did. they had the objective of killing tens of thousands. they tried to aerate the bomb with cyanide to create cyanide clouds they hoped would kill people remote from the explosion. their ambitions were great. it's by the grace of god they didn't kill more people than they did. in the spate of 8 years they bombed our embassies, they nearly sank the u.s.s. sullivan.

they did bomb the u.s.s.cole. they had big ambitions which is why we were worried about atom bombs and chemical bombs and the like. david: we now of course have the taliban back in control in afghanistan. they were responsible for staging the attacks from afghanistan through al qaeda. does it concern you we need maybe on the edge of another 9/11? >> it does. what al qaeda needed to project the kind of power it projected was two things. sanctuary and an operational partnership with the regime. it's exactly what the taliban gave them and exactly what they have again. david: let's hope history

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physicians are bothered about the are you judgity of the one size fits all approach to the vaccine. one of those physicians is dr. marty makary. he has just written a piece on his concerns for the fox website. dr. makary what are your main concerns? >> they are too rigid. they need to be more flexible. if you are going to put a vaccine requirement in account for natural immunity. it's 27 times more effective than the vaccine in a large study. count one dose -- that's important with did. you have got kids that are already immune. now we are going to force them to take two adult size doses. and we know there is a complication with heart complications after the second dose. david: the decision on pfizer

age 9-11 could come out in october. are you saying the science isn't there yet? are they rushing it out? >> they need to convene the technical expert advisory committee of the fda before they authorize the vaccine for kids 5-12. they bypassed that committee for 12-15 and that was unacceptable. that's an important safety check. david: they had a revolt on the booster. a couple of scientists who had been there for 30 years quit over the decision to leap frog over the fda in recommending the booster. >> dr. krause and dr. gruber are some of the most respected researchers in the country. they both quit on the same day because they want to send a strong message.

you can't do science by saying make this booster work. david: let me get back to this study, the israeli study showing people that have had covid and recover have a 27 times more likely expectation of not getting covid against opposed to those who have just been vaccinated? that's a stunning number. 27 times more immune to covid than those who have been vaccinated. why haven't we heard more about this study. >> it's inex application be how d -- it's inexplicable the way they have been is more -- been ignoring natural immune it. it was 27 times more protective

against the virus. this is the dishonesty hurting the rollout of the vaccine. david: you are saying if they got one shot it might be effective. >> they looked at one dose and there was a slight benefit in reducing breakthrough infections. david: why not focus on antibody testing and that would be the designation whether you need a vaccine or not. >> you could do that. they didn't even do that in the study. they looked at everybody who had covid. the body's immune system works. if biden or fauci or any of our government doctors would say based on the data we are recognizing natural immunity and

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david: after a one-year hiatus due to covid, a number of 9/11 traditions are continuing tomorrow. lydia is live in manhattan with more on what's going on there. reporter: the live reading of victims' names by family members will resume tomorrow at the 9/11 memorial. last year this annual commemoration of the anniversary was canceled due to covid concerns. in addition to that live reading there will be six moments of silence acknowledging when each tower was struck and each fell. and the attack on the pentagon and the crash of flight 93. the memorial museum will hold

its tribute of light. and it celebrates the unbreakable of new york by beaming two towers of light four miles into the sky. the governor said this is a vulnerable time. secretary of homeland security majorkas said there is no he will vairted risk for security. >> there is no specific credible threat to the homeland arising from any terrorist organization or terrorist individual. >> thousands of uniforms and civilian members overlaid with bomb detection and long guns. that should reassure people, not alarm people.

reporter: tomorrow's ceremony will start at 8:30 in the morning. david: as the nation prepares to mark 20 years since the terrorist attacks the u.s. us e u.s. struggles to deal with the aftermath of the president's withdrawal from afghanistan. peter, you were working for the defense department on 9/11. describe precisely where you were at the time that the attacks began. >> but for the grace of god walk i. two weeks before i was to make my first trip as deputy secretary of defense to east asia, including hawaii and korea. my assistant offered me a couple of flights to get me to hawaii.

one was american airlines through los angeles and another was a half-hour later from dulles to san francisco to hawaii. i chose the later flight, the united flight to give myself a little more time at home. and but for the grace of god go i, the american airlines flight was the one they flew into the pentagon that day. we never got off the ground. we were on the taxiway. i was able to leave the airport. my luggage came back. i went home. wasn't able to contact anybody. in the old days the blinking red light was to come back to the pentagon. i was asked to come back to the pentagon to help respond. david: what was it like at the pentagon on the day the plane crashed into it. how chaotic was it?

was it possible to get work done, et cetera? >> i got there later. this happened in the morning. i got there in the afternoon. i remember driving up the highway which was empty which is rare in washington, d.c. seeing the clouds of smoke. the armed military folks in battle gear meeting me at the gate, checking my name to see if i was able to come back into the building. the building was basically empty. i remember occasionally a security guard coming around when i was trying to get a couple winks of sleep in my office to tell me the fire was spreading and to be aware because they -- because the building was on fire for a number of days. it was very eerie. of course we were in unchart waters.

obviously i think about that. they attacked my country, my city, my place of work. and they attacked me. david: the attack was planned and orchestrated from a spot in afghanistan controlled by the taliban. and we are in the same situation now. are we as vulnerable with the taliban back in control as we were before 9/11? >> i'm worried about that. i wrote about that this week for the heritage foundation. it didn't have to be this way. we should have kept a smaller force there to provide intelligence and air cover if necessary to prevent afghanistan from potentially becoming a safe haven for transactional terrorism. we are not only dealing with the remnants of al qaeda and perhaps a rejuvenated al qaeda, but we are dealing with isis and

isis-k. it's another group with transnational aspirations and sees us as its nemesis. i'm concerned about that and worried about our ability despite how great our intelligence services are, our military is, from afar it will be much more difficult to tamp down or eliminate this threat. >> david: you have a piece out today over the horizon, the biden administration strategy. jen psaki suggested that the drone strike after that suicide bombing in afghanistan was an example of that. but she didn't mention the fact that our troops were still on the ground at the time of those drone strikes. we don't have troops on the ground. we play have intelligence assets. but far and few between. is that over the horizon

strategy really feasible? >> i'm worried about this because of access. afghanistan is a land locked country. you need air access. you will have to fly over central asia or pakistan. you will need their permission. in the past we didn't need to do that because we had the ability to operate from win afghanistan. now the cia and other intelligence agencies will be hustling to find ways to be able to affect the president's plan. i think the plan is flawed and it will be much more difficult to deal with a growing terrorist threat out of afghanistan. i hope it doesn't come together. but i'm worried about it. i am waried about the flow -- i'm worried about the flow of foreign fighters moving to afghanistan to establish a taliban network and export

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world the world trade towers in new york. they meant to destroy our way of life. the new york stock exchange reopened 6 days after the attack and continued unabated. no one was more proud of that moment than a man whose name is synonymous with capitalism, steve forbes. did you think we would be able to reopen the exchange just six days after the attack? >> the answer is i thought it would take longer. the physical destruction was immense. but what the terrorists misunder misunderstood is our system is not based on physical things. it's based on culture and freedom of the mind and freedom to create. if you have freedom of the find

people do things that are miraculous. and they did that day. so our political system didn't collapse. wall street didn't collapse because the human mind was still there even though we took a physical loss. that's what they don't understand and i don't think the chinese understand that. david: i don't think people outside the beltway understand that. there was something extraordinarily creative about reopening six days after the attacks which forced people to do all sorts of things folks never discussed doing before. >> that's right. thankfully since then we have taken measures where if there is another similar attack, now where things are dispersed, the systems are more sophisticated and dispersed. the real threat is the hacking.

the cyber attacks. david: it helped that we had economic policy that was pretty strong. unlike george w.'s father. he never violated any no tax increase pledge. so we had lower taxes and lower regulations. i am just concerned. god forbid there is another attack. but you know what's happening in afghanistan. you wonder if there is, would we be as prepared with current economic conditions? >> i think in terms of short term, yes. we have take and lot of measures since 9/11 to make sure we don't have that kind of destruction again, centralized again. i think we could make a quick comeback. we have 16 stock exchanges now. so yes we would come back.

the real question is do we have an environment where once we do that quick recovery, can we grow again? we had a benign environment somewhat after the 9/11. that's why these debates on a $3.5 trillion bill which is really 6 when you do the right math. they want to put in a whole bunch of new entitlements that will wreck the budget in the knew future. it's not just the number but what they want to put in that bill. david: the trillions we spent so far led to the inflation pot that i don't think is transtory. 8.3% year to year. that's double the wage gains. working americans are unwater.

that's what i wonder if we are as healthy as we were back then. >> it forces people to focus in a way they haven't done before. i think you would see change if we had to do it. americans are in a bad mood right now. but we are a very resilient people. you saw it the way people reacted on the day of 9/11. evacuations by local mariners, restaurants providing food for first providers. people coming from all over the country to help out. that kind of thing you don't see in the rest of the world. >> coming full circle i look at the proposed tax increases of the biden administration. the tax on capital i put coming full circle from where we started here, i am wondering if major taxes on capital they are

proposing if that could harm capitalism more than the 9/11 attacks did. >> it certainly would be more long term harm. if you don't have savings, if you don't have capital. if you don't have the money to invest, you don't have a rising standard of living. it takes investment. how about expanding a business? starting new businesses? a lot of them fail. you need capital to get that big winner. so you do need that kind of capital. they think it just happens. you go to the supermarket, the food is there. they have to plant it, process it and deliver it and everything else. david: steve forbes, thank you very much for coming in. reflecting on the first sporting event in new york city after event in new york city after nieb * live from citi field.

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they were hijacked and flown into the twain towers in new york. paul is paying special tribute to his colleagues who were killed on 9/11. he pushed a flight card from ground zero to the twin towers in new york. tell us how paulie's push started. >> it started when the thought came into my head that i needed to do something that nobody has ever done. so after getting clean and sober. the opiates after 9/11 almost took my life. six years ago i got sober and said it's time to recognize these guys. i couldn't do it all those years. i knew i had to take care of

myself first. and about a year and a half ago i knew i was ready, i could do it mentally, physically. i talked to a friend of my sister's. kevin stevens and kelly wilson. she said she knew what i was talking about. she said okay. you take care of yourself physically and mentally and i will take care of the rest. back in october i started training. and here i am today in new york city. i had quite a journey. david: you had a real tough time getting over 9/11. nobody gets over anything like that. but you mentioned your use of drugs. you were just trying to bury the pain. >> i didn't realize it. i was functioning -- i was barely functioning. i never dealt with 9/11. i flew for 10 more years after

9/11. it's amazing i lasted that long. but it was something to come up with that stuff in 2015. tomorrow it will be six years i will be clean and sober. this whole thing has been a perfect storm. i didn't plan to do this on the 20th anniversary. i wasn't physically or mentally able to. it took me that much time to get back into society. but i had to do something that wasn't done. the reason it wasn't done was because of the enormity of that day. when those towers came down we were all in shock. everyone had forgotten what happened at the beginning of that day. those crew members were going hand-to-hand combat with those terrorists. it bothered me that their kids

never heard anybody say your father or mother was a hero. but i knew it was my responsible to give recognition to those crew members. they were true american heroes. david: it's a relatively small community. you knew some of these people. what would you like us to remember about them? you only have about 20 seconds but go for it. >> they are true american heroes. they were great people. to go into something like that, that time of the morning and to be up against trained terrorism and make phone calls under those conditions. that's a hero in my book. we are supposed to recognize heros in this country. they were overshadowed and i

needed to make this right. david: we needed to recognize every one of them. thank you so much for being here. we have got to leave it at that. >> thank you for having me. >> helping the city and the nation heal after the 9/11 attacks. one baseball game is still until our minds. connell mcshane is reporting live from citi field. >> for a lot of people sports played some role in starting the healing process. when people think of that, they think of president bush in october of that year at the world sear yims at yankee -- the world series at yankee stadium. the president stood on the mound by himself and threw a perfect strike. but the first sporting event came just 10 days after

september 11. september 21 of 2001. shea stadium, queens new york. >> the question was not only are we going to play, but are we going to play in new york? >> there was a lot of speculation and trepidation being the fact that shea stadium is next to la guard yeah airport. there was that fear of what could be next from the air. >> the decision was play ball with a special' permission from the commissioner's office. the game itself was close with the mets trailing the braves in the 8th inning. up came the star catcher, mike piazza. >> home run.

>> families that had lost fathers and husbands and wives that there was something about that gave them just a tiny bit of spark or gave them an opportunity to forget everything that was going on for a split second and live in that moment. >> when he got in the dugout, some guys were crying. the fans. there were so many tears from the fans in the stand. >> i understand why. >> it was only a baseball game. >> it was. but, absolutely, it was so much more than a baseball game. reporter: the 2021 mets begin a 3-game series at citi field

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on 9/11 mine was john william perry. he was a police officer but also a lawyer, and actor, libertarian civil rights activist in a multi-linguist he spoke french, spanish, swedish, russian and started in on albanian. not bad for a guy diagnosed with a learning disability as a kid. i met him several years before 9/11 on a show i was hosting called damn right. the crew did not know he was a cop until a technician freaked out when he was putting a mic on him and saw his gun. john laughed and told us not to worry that he was a cop and he would be our bodyguard. he quickly became a cherished regular on the show. as fate would have it, 9/11 was the day he was retiring early from the force. he was filing his retirement papers downtown when the call came in about a plane crash at the world trade center. john immediately ran over to the towers and started bringing folks out. he was last seen helping a woman out of the south tower when it

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