hardest hit by this crazy reconciliation tax hike, small business hurting or not safe america, kill the. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> welcome to the week. natural immunity is just as good at perhaps better than getting the vaccine but all vaccine mandates make no carve out for people who recovered from covid. half dozen states and federal employees and places like oregon are suing because it's not necessarily clear so why aren't vaccine overlords following the science? as you know i never of cities and states require proof of vaccination to enter a bar or

restaurant, worked in many businesses. as an abiding urged all sports venues to do the same. many college campuses cracking down and now he wants to go even discuss herd immunity, you should hear vaccine to go on a plane or even think about a plane or watch reruns of fantasy islands it by yourself. >> if we get the overwhelming abortion proportion of the population vaccinated, will get herd immunity. if we do it in the next six months, or next two months it will happen in the next two months. i would support that, if you want to get on a plane and travel with other people can usually. liz: i think it's up to the airline. it is a problem, he says nothing about people with already had covid which is a big chunk of the population. liberty loving oregonians, among

them and ent, corrections officer and federal agent according to the lawsuit, state specifically stated proof of history of covid infections does not qualify employees for exemptions to vaccine mandates. plaintiffs say it's not right because -- so can they win? will be adversely natural immunity path forward? i think that's fair. tonight's party panel, townhall.com fox news katie is here along with former senator chuck schumer. podcast, aggressive -- and political columnist, anthony fischer rounding things are tonight. he designed trouble. i will start with you, katie. natural immunity can provide even more protection in your a

number of berries including 20 different spikes and programs proteins and they worked around antibodies from the vaccines they came from having covid infection. signs like this, why isn't natural immunity being introduced into the conversation? >> that's a really good question senator paul, not an epidemiologist but a doctor, he's missing this on the figure, natural immunity is something likely to have better immunity against and. to your question about whether you can in a lawsuit, it's interesting because there's a law professor at george mason university who's who them because they would require vaccines. i can prove i had covid and i don't want to take the vaccine

or lose my job. he didn't necessarily when the lawsuit but the school caved. it shows you can say you have natural immunity and it made as something substituted for vaccination polenta we are only pushing vaccines makes people even more hesitant when there are other options in terms of treatment and other natural immunity to prevent you from getting sick. liz: it's interesting because there are so many other things that kill americans and if the federal government realizes they can employ mandates for things like covid and why aren't they going to alter your sugar intake? cancer kills 600,000 people a year in the united states. heart disease, 691,000. covid 2020 kill about 345,000, 192,000 died from accidents and

unintentional injuries so for them, we can bubblewrap them for cancer, you can mandate people don't do things like smoke or eat red meat and i think they would have to have vegan passports in order to travel safely throughout the u.s. and the world, that would be only fair. >> people smoking and gorging themselves on sugar or killing themselves and not necessarily killing somebody kid who did not get vaccinated. >> kids are not dying from the virus. >> you have the right not to get vaccinated, you do not have the right to be an emt worker in america ruling on that and free speech cases time in technomic and sub we are well past determining whether or not the vaccines are effective. i see that there needs to be more study whether or not natural immunity could be as effective. one study -- >> is not just one study, is

just the one study i cited. >> that does not say it stops you from transmitting the disease like the vaccine does. here's the deal -- americans need to get vaccinated so we can move on. >> no study says the vaccine -- >> i don't want to have to wear a mask when i'm going to california because some not write something on the internet that says we should get vaccinated come on, please is a difference between what you're talking about is anti- fax, or i'm talking about is people with natural immunity who are reading the data talking to their doctors make personal choices which is what you like to do and i don't think i have to remind you 72% of african-americans in new york city have not been vaccinated so they will be left out of a lot of the activities want casual and something we can engage in freely because people

like you want to run their lives. >> i am pro- vaccine, generally skeptical about mandates, president biden's scientists whs is not a peer-reviewed study and he is not even sure his positions will be accurate sort something about that lawsuit there leaning on shaky science. >> if only some of the grants collins and anthony fauci doled out were peer-reviewed but they weren't, they were done in secret. speaking of vaccine, kamala harris getting dragged after putting out a perplexing three

this morning. she wrote by vaccinating the unvaccinated and masking and protecting those in vaccinated, we can enter the pandemic so why do we have to protect the vaccinated? ... of the vaccines? what about celebrities think meeting do more research because of that she cannot go to tonight met gayla should make a ménage blamed the vice president? >> she absolutely should blame the vice president for her inability to go to the gala, i would for sure but if the vaccine works the efficacy the government has been telling everybody and protecting this is total garbage. you could argue that it's a

potential problem for other undocumented people but you can't argue vaccinated people need to be protected from the unvaccinated government officials and the entire federal government are talking about the unvaccinated not taking into account natural immunity as subclass of people, generally it leads to treating people very poorly rather than looking at individual circumstances. liz: it is bad, i think are better ways of marketing the vaccines and just hang offensive line needs an offense of line, it's a little redundant. >> we are to treat the problem and give lifesaving vaccine for free to allow them to move around freely in this country and not get covid from a virus i can kill them. >> cannot taking the vaccine. >> i have -- i don't know how

many times i need to cite, just take the vaccine. >> your calling black people whiny little babies -- >> i'm calling people who are not taking the vaccine whiny little babies -- please, kennedy, that is not correct, the numbers are -- whatever. liz: we went over it with our research team before the show but okay. >> i'm sure that's exactly . liz: thousand important segment of the population and i know you like to marginalized communities of color and not makes you feel better in superior, i think it is very inappropriate. would you like to take that back? >> i think it's you marginalizing communities of color right now, cherry picking on a subset of people. liz: i am pointing out -- >> let's look at the numbers and will get into it on twitter because i don't think the members hold up.

liz: you can say whatever you want but you are undermining the facts. >> okay, i'm going to undermine your backpacks but they are not real. liz: you may not like my fax but they are thanks -- to whom are you taking your hat? vice president, raising the amount of skepticism in the country and putting people at enormous risk of developing a vaccine? people who happen to be high risk of the vaccine, they have diabetes and marley or beese and basement but you said earlier the people making bad choices, therefore we don't need -- >> a lot of people are making bad choices. >> so you are going to make their choices for them? >> they are making choices for themselves. >> so a lot of people who think they are going to get sick and the government will pay for, i blame bernie sanders because he created the mentality in this country that the government will pay for all of your medical care and you have zero personal responsibly so i blame bernie. anthony.

>> i think the vice president for once has stepped on a rake, only to 80 characters to work with, she could have used them better and more efficiently to be more clear than doing what she's done which was given the talking points out that which is slightly fair to criticize her with the unvaccinated our threat to the vaccinated. if they are not a threat in terms of spreading covid, most of the time, i think a better thing she could have said was the unvaccinated our threat to the vaccinated because they show up to hospital rooms and icu's heart attacks hit hardest have fewer places to go, i think that's a fair argument. liz: everyone is od on -- and that's why the room and hospital beds. all right, thank you, such a functional. the only time we are seeing you but i loved every moment of the conversation.

>> thank you. liz: president binds vaccine mandates beginning to to cultural and businesses across the country. what people just quit their job and thank the economy instead of getting job? my next guest says yes. buddy carter to break it down next. ♪♪ he

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is our economy about to collapse? my next guest said the vaccine mandates could cause that. he thinks unvaccinated workers will quit their jobs rather than back to the man to get injected. at the same time when a small business who can't find workers, that could spell disaster if more leave the workforce. joining me now, revoking harvesting house budget committee and from a business owner, a pharmacist for 32 years and owned his own pharmacy, he knows what he's talking about. how bad could this get? >> it could be, it's bad enough already with this is trying to find help. businesses in general have trouble back to work thanks to the government pay more to stay

home and they could earn if they went back to work. it's a problem compounded now because there are people i've talked to them ever since this went into effect, a number of people said i'm not going to do it and they are worried, they are concerned about what they're going to do for the family to provide for the family and when they lose their job and they know they run the risk of doing that. this is high hypocrisy when we have over 1 million people across the border unvaccinated, untested coming in to our society yet joe biden is going to say if you don't get vaccinated, you will lose your job. that is ridiculous. i with joe biden was as angry with the taliban as he is with the meghan citizens. maybe we could get something done in afghanistan and the american standard over there back home where they belong. liz: yes instead of blaming them. it's infuriating because talk about virtual signaling, you see

politicians with masks on when the tv cameras are on and when they think no one is looking, cap practically french kissing. half an inch apart, none of them have masks on, 800 years old and hobnobbing and they don't believe the science, they don't believe masks are necessary, they don't wear them or believe any of it. they violate their own super stupid rules and if you violate your own rules than they are arbitrary. >> it's all about them having control over you and that's exactly what they want. you saw the pictures and videos, shouldn't have amassed long. you see pictures of nancy pelosi and other aquatic leaders at mass gatherings without masks on but that's what they want. they want to control you and that is exactly what they are after end of the chain and americans are going to tolerate dust from appear smarter than this. liz: the vaccine, go ahead and

get the vaccine. you don't want to get? get the vaccine. that's fine, there are a lot of things people do but i disagree with and i think are unhealthy but i don't think the federal government needs to intervene with forests and make them adjust their lives to fulfill the whims of politicians. i hope you are more on the liberty side. >> whether you get vaccinated or not is a decision you should make with your position. we are pharmacist or family members, packed who should make the decisions, it's between you and your doctor and your pharmacist and family member, not between you and the government. liz: the government can stay out of all business and every job i might or might not take. thank you so much. coming up, what will be the fate of general markley? our panel discusses next.

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welcome back, president biden says complete confidence in general mark milley. the general himself said he did something wrong but explosive allegations that he went behind then-president comes back and had secret communication with china setting washington d.c. on fire. general milley a hero or trader is critics allege? a new book claims after the 2020 election milley became alarmed by trump's erratic behavior and reportedly was worried the former president start a war with china and the story goes, milley became even more content article january 6 rights. the book claims milley called chinese counterparts, tries to reassure them to u.s. government was stable and he notify china in the event of an attack. any military person will tell you that's not up the chain of

command. the president is commander-in-chief and gets to make the final call when and if to push the button and that's why many people call for milley to resign or be fired but today john kirby, said milley did everything by the book. >> i see nothing in what i've read that would cause any concern. it's not only common, it's expected that chairman of the joint chiefs of staff would continue to have counterpart conversations. liz: it's not the conversations with the conversation, it's the content of the conversations. u.s. senators call for milley to be asked, rand paul said it has to be dealt with immediately. >> investigated immediately today, he should be questioned under oath if not with the polygraph test even if he should

be relieved of his duty and court-martial. this is room and propaganda perhaps but if it is true, absolutely it immediately needs to be removed. we have elections, we can have generals overturn elections, but the size and authoritarian regimes when the military takes over. this is very, very dangerous. liz: he does have some defenders including tom cotton, an army veteran so standing by milley. >> this book raises serious concerns, some of the allegations seem far-fetched to me but they are going to be testifying in front of congress in a few days and will address the concerns, don't want to jump to conclusions yet but we will certainly affect them and see what happened. liz: yes, what happened? was a blatant violation of the law and what should happen next? let's meet tonight's panel,

presidential writer in america majority ceo ryan, host of the part of the problem podcast always has a solution. democrat strategist radio host and fox news contributor, leslie marshall. next, i will start with you. usually not a good idea, an adversary which we do have conversations with adversaries u.s. foreign policy but about idea to telegraph when we are about to attack them. am i missing something? >> after the afghanistan debacle, you would have thought he would resign after total complete shape but here we are talking about this phone call which we hear reports today the acting secretary of defense christopher miller at the time said milley was not authorized to have this conversation and now we see from the chief of staff of the department of defense also saying it's not

authorized and highly unusual to have these conversations with an enemy about operational capabilities and it was even said that in his mind it rises to treason, not authorized by the white house or acting secretary of defense so i want to know under oath what milley did, what the conversation was about an september 28 we will have the opportunity to hopefully get to the bottom of the issue but if this is true and he went rogue and had these conversations, he should be fired and make even be draw up on charges of treason. liz: is a treason what you have heard so far and is he a traitor? >> yes, he's a traitor. is it treason? it was conspiracy to commit treason. if he said if donald trump were to attack china in his ridiculous scenario and yes,

that would be the literal definition of treason giving the information in the middle of a war. it's the question whether we have civilian control over the military or not. in this case manager is now in his a long pattern of this. i don't think he was a good president but the reality is that he was framed for treason by his own deep state and like to about a number of troops in syria and constantly had unelected bureaucrats working against him and it might be part of the reason liberals and left-wing people, maybe this is why trump supporters don't think the election was legitimate or they don't believe any of you anymore. this might have something to do with that so there are much more profound questions here in the idea it's like trump inspired so much hatred among liberals and batteries that they are willing to give up the idea of civilian control of the military. it is really something. liz: it definitely gives you

cause for concern because you have allegedly -- bob woodward isn't exactly a republican mouthpiece. he sang milley contacted the cia and people at the nsa and they were directly him to spy on the president and reinforce this paranoia he had.donald trump would push the button and nuke china but there's no evidence he would do that so all of it is problematic. >> we don't even have any evidence this took place. what country are we and? are we in the u.s. or china? liz: do you think -- >> i am a liberal and i'm not lying to you but here's the thing, we think you're making it up? liz: no -- you think bob woodward is making this happen? >> i'm saint i agree with tom

cotton, we have to have a testimony and after testimony, then you say okay somebody should be fired and i would say that once they are democrat or republican but you don't just say hang up. you have to have trial, if the evidence and if these things are true. all of the other people . liz: you're right -- >> if we are not provoked there were to have a nuclear tax, numerous journals including general john who said to the national security to assure them and our allies the if a president were to go rogue, he and others would say illegal, i can't do that. liz: is china an ally?

[laughter] >> sadly they may not be an ally. we need them to assembly about the fact problem every administration -- he. liz: there's a big difference reassuring allies versus giving intelligence -- our country that's arguably an enemy. the panel will stick around so while general milley is breaking protocol, there are questions about whether his actions endanger u.s. national security. i'm no military expert as you know but you would think telling the chinese about our plans might put troops in harm's way. could that be? here with me now some dark secret place.com every show. what you make of this news. >> cell phone call to the

director general chief general sassy, i am more concerned with the speaker of the lodgment branch she can form a coup and insurrection by calling the chief -- chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and convince him to somehow intercede in the nuclear chain of receive but he's not been. to me, he was encouraging him to suffer constitutional authority because january 8, 2001, donald j trump was still the president and he would be for 12 more days until now. that's a bigger issue. if milley doesn't resign by friday, i will cut my hair off and bake into he should be under

investigation without, i'll stay in my lane and you stay indoors that is far more disturbing than calling the which apparently from everything i've read, it did happen or bob. reporter: is going to get sued and he doesn't like being sued and it was not authorized so there's how many layers of milley should resign? he could leave his eyebrows but he needs to resign. liz: how serious is it calling china say tears the guys? if we are going to attack you, i'm totally going to tell you? >> it's suborning treason, it's like the scene an airplane when ted striker says i've got to get up early because we are getting storage tanks for coming into the north. it's just like that.

-- [laughter] we have a guy from washington before we deploy, fbi arrested him because he thought he was medicating with al qaeda saying i'm in and one a one, was in m1. at the fbi hadn't arrested him and found he would have hung the foxtrot -- if that's true and said there will be a surprise attack, don't worry i'll tell you -- no, milley should resign in absolute disgrace. liz: it's interesting watching kirby and starkey defendant and i don't know how long they can go on with this but the level of propaganda out of the administration -- >> i am with tom cotton, there is a process. i get.

i took open investment in years later also commission. i know what they said and i know milley violated them because he was talking from the legislative branch about male chicken blocking, united states authority and not this -- he talked to the chief of staff saying if the president calls and a specific, people don't know this but the joint chiefs of you don't necessarily call the communist chinese. thank you so much. coming up, nikki ménage and read trading over vaccines.

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meanwhile, nikki ménage right here right now with msnbc commentator started as nikki tweeted they want you to get vaccinated for the gala if i get vaccinated, it won't be for the mets, it's once i get enough research, i'm working on it now. in response, troy read acute surfeit of been responsible with her platform and encouraging followers not to take the vaccine. she didn't appreciate that. this is what happens when you are so thirsty to down another black woman by the request of the white man but you didn't

bother to read all of my tweet. my god, sister. you better. imagine your dumb -- on tv. one minute after tweet reading a false narrative about a black woman. it gets even better. there were terms and their that i love repeating, irrefutable terms, i can't do it. comedian and host on fox news radio. [laughter] my favorite part about this obviously as nikki ménage claim the reason she talking to vaccine, her cousin, his friend got the vaccine at his testicles swelled up so much he cannot father children and his fiancée broke off their wedding. >> she's well within her rights, i can't verify this but nikki ménage did not say don't get the vaccine. you know who did? write read tweeted last year who in their right mind is going to trust the cdc fda approved

vaccine? for some reason sticking think to delete that now that she changed reality? that's the previous part right now, these people change their own reality. every other day then call you crazy if you don't agree but it really was the twitter equivalent of house at the house. they wanted to go and then he came up. picking up fight. >> gangster rapper is a good idea, she's fantastic and will never back down. liz: she called her a homophobic seaward. [laughter] is a different word. >> these are not terms anyone on your staff is oblivious to and i'm just saying in general it was still dicey even by our standards that i love she call out homophobia because she never had to on that. she was like i got hacked, people looking into my machine.

liz: screenshot in her blog where she made -- >> spot on. they are so desperate for moral superiority and that's why they call her out because i constantly search for people to say we are intellectual and better but her emotion didn't have enough self-awareness to say reacting, the person under facebook threat are you are like my dogs to birthday and dislike yeah but trouble. we weren't talking about trump and that's what she did. i'll check on commercial. liz: before you go, legendary comic north mcdonald lost a loan previously undisclosed battle with cancer, he was only 61. a truly irreplaceable place spending his life bringing joy to millions of people. remember him on the weekend

update, he will be missed by all of us. my favorite moment other than ferguson on jeopardy which was amazing was his roast of bob saget where he memorized old jokes and then people realized what he was doing and it was amazing. >> the best of the best. he doesn't care about social pressure although he was a guy probably chased off s&l because he was hearing him and didn't want him on their. when oj got found guilty, he says murder is not illegal in the state of california. a great joke, his last which i believe was in 2016, his talk about how we evolved as a society and back in the day got one picture of your great-grandfather. now you have 35000 pictures of

her grandfather. i love this and i have to say . liz: i'm going to go into a deep dive. i love julie's comedy, to.

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