mcdonnell at 9:00 p.m. eastern here on "fox business tonight." the"the evening edit" starts rit now. ♪ elizabeth: the backstory to why president biden finally admitted on camera today that yes the border is not under control. now he contradicted himself, his vice president, his press secretary his homeland security secretary. they all claim it is under control. look at this though, new reports coming in, anywhere from 24.5000, 24,500 people or 30,000 illegals now potentially heading to the border. that news just now coming in. big government liberalism is erupting in multiple foreign and

domestic crises. it is doing a gravitational pull south on the president's poll numbers. this is the backstory to the president's address today. at the united nations, a day that also had understand republicans tearing into biden and his team on capitol hill for weakening national security. joining me tonight, congresswoman mariannette miller-meeks, senator roger marshall, ford o'connell, congresswoman beth van duyne, deroy murdoch, texas attorney general ken paxton. we have a whole lot of show for you tonight. this coming in, the far left new flip-flop on evictions. they're against evict shuns and want the government to stop them but not when it comes to the unvaccinated. a new senate gop fight against the white house for going full metal bureaucrat, a thicket of new rationing rules on the states on vital antibody treatments. and this, will the durham criminal probe lead to hillary clinton and her campaign team? we have a new media focus on

biden national security advisor jake sullivan. he is a former top advisor to hillary's campaign who hyped that false trump russia story that was cooked up, bought and paid for by hillary's campaign and democrats, then put inside of the fbi. now watch this story, hold on to your wallets, we have the new update on gas prices set to rise even more due to a new white house crackdown. and we've got the latest in the tedious orgy of self-rightousness from the media, the vice president, the press secretary criticized for mischaracterizing of images of a border official on horseback. they're upset about that. they got it wrong, saying nothing, silent on newborn babies and toddlers abandoned at the border, dropped over border walls. women and children killed, sexually assaulted on the way to the border, killing people with fentanyl. exponential increase in border crime since biden took office. we have the new numbers. they are pretty stunning.

thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: let's start with your money, the dow, the s&p and nasdaq ending mixed today. little changed in choppy trading. dropped more than 800 points yesterday. there was a retracement today. president biden made his first speech at the u.n., pressing quote, relentless diplomacy instead of military power. he faces domestic and foreign policy fights, including with france a botched withdrawal from afghanistan a drone strike that killed 10 civilians in afghanistan including seven children. his domestic agenda is in trouble. details on the show later. looming shutdown facing congress, infighting with democrats and more. edward lawrence at the white house. good to see you. reporter: good to see you, liz. president joe biden making a very forceful speech to try the change the image that the u.s. could possibly undermine some of his allies. he spoke to the same world

leaders, some of them in many cases to move the deadline for afghanistan so they could get their own people out. some of the same world leaders where the biden administration undermined an agreement between australia and french undermining "the five" years of negotiations. critics are saying his actions are not matching his words. >> all the major powers of the world have a duty in my view to carefully manage their relationships. so they do not tip from responsible competition to conflict. the united states will compete and we'll compete vigorously and lead with our values and our strength. reporter: so as the president struggles with foreign policy he is facing inflation concerns. the number one issue on the mind of voters according to a new "fox news poll." it ranks above the border crisis where images from the rio grande valley in texas keep getting worse each day. the president is also pushing congress to raise the debt ceiling now as well as pass his

spending packages. he want as total of $5.4 trillion in the bipartisan infrastructure bill as well as the reconciliation package. and liz, this is just tuesday. back to you. >> edward lawrence thank you so much. good to have you back on. joining us now iowa congresswoman dr. mariannette miller-meeks of house homeland security. congresswoman, terrific to have you back on. let's first watch the president today finally admit for the first time the border is not under control. watch this. reporter: mr. president, what's your reaction to the images from the southern border? >> get it under control. reporter: get it under control or you have it under control? >> we will get it under control. elizabeth: there you go, he said it twice. congresswoman, numbers quickly, new reports coming in, 24,500 more migrants heading to the border. those reports coming in. year-to-date about the equivalent wyoming and montana combined tried to cross the

border have been apprehended. your reaction to this? >> you hit the nail on the head when you think about the number of illegal immigrants that have come into our country alone, it exceeds the population of the state of montana. we know the border is not under control. we know the border is defacto open. many of us have been criticized saying the border is open. the border is open. the images are horrifying when you see what is happening at the border. earlier this year i made the first border trip i asked about covid-19 testing. they are not doing covid-19 testing. secretary may josh cast said they would not do the facilitying at facility. they're not doing covid-19 testing or covid-19 vaccinations. the lambda variant is in south america. we don't know what it will unfold in the united states. we already are trying to get through the delta variant. it's a mess. it is ai don't see at the border -- chaos at the border. the border patrol is

overwhelmed. they're not being supported by this administration and the border is not secure. elizabeth: we have the border patrol under contract. he has a split rein. there should be investigation into his using a appeared to be used as a whip but it wasn't. so the vice president is in charge of the border. first time she spoke out but to attack the border patrol here, congresswoman. after she is saying we're going to try to get at root causes. there is a whole lot of other problems at the border. your reaction to this? >> well, first of all the crisis at the border is the fault of the person who resides at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. i think it is atrocious. people have not been around horses or never been on horseback. obvious when you look at the video, look at photographs they're trying to manage the reins so in fact the horse get skiddish among a lot of people, so the horse doesn't do anything. i think they are looking for ways to criticize this, the

progressives and the left want to defund the police. they want to get rid of i.c.e. they want open borders. they think if they portray this narrative and they denigrate and demean the border patrol, they will be able to further their narrative. it is just atrocious. it is obvious what this border patrol agent is doing, owe is trying to protect those people on the ground, prevent the horse from going forward. elizabeth: with have to move on. top coupler terrorism official, christine abizad, intelligence agencies are reas segging rapidly developing of terrorist groups in the afghanistan. your reaction to christine abizaid's comments. what is your reaction to that? >> i said this for four months. i've done interviews on this, and have said very openly because of the botched withdrawal, lack of intelligence on the ground, giving up bagram airbase we can't conduct over the horizon counterterrorism. we've seen that in the drone

strike you mentioned earlier which ended up killing 10 civilians, seven of which were children. we're looking on the booth. we're looking intelligence information and we're less safe now than we were before 9/11. so yes, maybe our intelligence age ses have less silos but the ability to gather information, to conduct counterintelligence missions to send drones or to act upon information we don't have that any longer and it's no surprise there would be those who wish harm to the united states and other western countries and our allies. no surprise. elizabeth: we've got senate republicans on homeland security really going after homeland security secretary mayorkas and fbi director wray on this on the president's weak national security policies. watch what happens. >> the catastrophic way the biden administration withdrew from afghanistan surprising our nato allies and abandoning our afghan allies has left us without eyes and ears on the ground. it is also signaled to the world

that the united states is an unreliable partner. >> how many people have been returned? how many people are being detained? how many people have been dispersed to all points around america? >> senator, i would be pleased to provide you with that data. >> i want them now. why don't you have that information now? >> start i do not have that data before me. >> why not? why don't you have that basic information. >> senator i want to be accurate. >> do you bear responsibility for the crisis in del rio, yes or no? >> senator, the, the smuggling organizations -- >> yes or no, mr. secretary, do you bear responsibility for the humanitarian crisis in del rio, yes or no? >> senator, it is my responsibility to address the human tragedy in del rio, to address that and we are doing so. that is my responsibility. and we are executing it as a department of homeland security. >> you don't think you played any role in your policies have played any role in fostering and fomenting this crisis that ensnared so many thousands of

people? >> senator, what we're learning from interviews from individuals, they're receiving false information, misinformation from the smuggling organizations that traffic in the exploitation of vulnerable individuals. >> in other words, it is someone else's fault. elizabeth: congresswoman, let's break this down. homeland security secretary admitted this is quote unsustainable. that yes this is a crisis. said it in private recorded messages. he keeps calling it a challenge. it is not a tennis match. it is not a chess game. it is not a challenge. it is much more than that, right? i mean so when you weaken the border, you have chaotic crimes and much, much more. your final word on this? >> they weakened the border, they opened the border. they sent out a message for people to come over because we weren't deporting haitians. this is the fault that originates with the policies of this administration. it is their crisis. we don't have border security here. we have betrayed our allies in

afghanistan. they don't know where we are. we have no eyes and ears on iran, russia or china. we're in a precarious position. thank you for bringing attention to this. if i may i want to wish my husband happy birthday. happy birthday kurt. elizabeth: happy birthday kurt, thank you for that little touch there. congresswoman mariannette miller-meeks. thank you for joining us. okay, the next debate. this is a hot one. the during ram probe continues but will it lead to hillary clinton and her campaign team? we'll investigate later this hour. up next covid confusion, senator and doctor roger marshall facing problems now in booster messaging after the biden administration prematurely said yes boosters are coming but the fda parnell said no. there is this, be republicans accusing the white house rationing antibody drugs, inies also including southern states. the white house says it is not doing that. we'll break it down. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. >> by the way i said

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progressive group that has been behind all the demands for the government to stop evictions. at the same time they support evicting the unvaccinated. hillary vaughn with the details. hillary? reporter: liz, a new bill pushed by progressives today would give the cdc power are to decide if an eviction would lead to the spread of covid-19 and if it would, they could ban the eviction from happening. >> as a result of eviction many families are forced to move into crowded hotels or shelters. it led to 433,000 preventable cases of covid-19. reporter: but i asked if that same logic applies to migrants at the southern border? >> ultimately support unvaccinated migrants being sent back to their homes so they are being stuck in hotels and shelters to stop the spread of covid-19 to save lives? >> this bill is about making sure that the authorities given

to hhs to make the decision. reporter: progressives lawmakers sidestepping that issue. also not piping up from a new push from a florida landlord, if you don't get vaxed you get evicted? the florida landlord, santiago alvarez has 1200 rental units in florida. so far one of his tenants have been turned out. instead of outrage from progressives, some like occupy group, supporting landlord. elizabeth: hard to keep up with it. hillary vaughn, great reporting. good to have you on. kansas senator, and dr. roger marshall. senator, great to have you on. we have this fight, politicization of antibody treatments. senator tommy tuberville sent a letter to the hhs secretary haw area becerra, what standards are you use to ration monoclonal

antibody treatments to the states? what is your take on this story? >> liz, they're trying to prioritize moving antibody treatment away from red states to blue states. i don't understand where they're coming from. the system was not broken. it was working well. this is the first time the administration has ever mentioned anything except vaccine as an alternative to taking care of this virus. so one more, one more crisis being created by this president. elizabeth: so what happens now is the states have to go, you have to get their state health department to turn to hhs and ask them for doses and then hhs doles it out. we have seven states including alabama, florida, texas, notably republican states. we're told these new protocols would cut their supply. the white house press secretary saying this is about equitable distribution. how do we know more supply is going to the blue states? does the blue states need them? >> you know, liz, i'm not sure what they're doing, when they

mention equity, you have to look really closely to what they're doing. so i ant follow their math at all. certainly we had a much worse outbreak in the southern part of the united states a month ago. and now as this delta variant spreads across the nation, they're going to need more of them further north. this is the way this virus has acted from day one. it attacks little areas and starts spreading. those are the ones that need these antibodies. >> you know, senator, senator tommy tuberville's office talked to drug suppliers. they say there is no supply shortages there. he is worried about political bias and lack of clarity. we have to note taxpayers are funding all of these treatments too. when you look at this where is your concern that this could turn political? >> i think it already has turned political. when there is basically the president's taking on governors and hhs getting involved in the distribution of this drug. again this was a solution in search of a problem. everything was working fine.

i was not hearing of any complaints from doctors or emergency rooms having access to this until the president and hhs got in the middle of this one. elizabeth: okay, so you know, the senators, senator tuberville is saying, he is worried about undue political pressure put on states to comply with whatever additional covid related mandates the white house deems appropriate. when you look forward to this, when you see more bureaucracy inside of antibody monoclonal treatments, when texas and florida are trying to ramp it up, there is also this push by the white house saying get vaccinated. there is a lot of unvaccinated people in the south. is there anything you're hearing about this when it comes to rationing of these antibody monoclonal drug treatments, saying we'll not give it to you, we'll ask to get your people vaccinated? >> liz, i think whenever there is mandates coming out especially a vaccine mandate, you will get lots of pushback.

we did a couple town halls this weekend. i never heard more people upset and more determined. on the other hand we have the opportunity for a booster shot with seniors which would save more lives than grade schools, high schoolkids wearing seven masks at the same time. the booster vaccine would be very helpful. the antibody treatments are very helpful. this administration never talked about natural immunity. they never talked about building up your own immunity. they never talk about the treatments out there that work as well. we made great progress on this. right now the white house should be focusing on getting those booster shots for seniors and drive down the mortality. elizabeth: senator roger marshall, good to see you. come back soon. coming up later this hour the border crisis. illegal alien criminal convictions more than quadrupling last year. we've got the numbers. texas governor saying biden opened the floodgates. now the lone star state is taking matters into its own hands. a record new budget to build its

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>> welcome to the show gop strategist, ford o'connell. the durham probe, could it lead to hillary clinton and her team? >> the durham indictment of perkins couey, that the trump story was paid for by the hillary clinton campaign. can it lead to other people? absolutely. my concern is because republicans aren't in power in washington, d.c., right now, i have a feeling the democrats in congress will not release the necessary documents needed to the durham probe. elizabeth: take it back to the beginning. president biden's national security advisor jake sullivan is in focus. he was a top advisor to the hillary campaign in 2016. he touted in a press statement as if it was the work of independent expert as false story cooked up, bought and paid for by hillary's campaign that is russian bank, alfa bank was

talking to trump business computers. this was a gotcha moment. it wasn't true. he called this quote, the most direct link between trump and russia. the fbi found it was another outside server that trump businesses were using to send trump hotel and golf club marketing emails. that is like saying gmail is your server. about emails here. so this is, this is the first thing, first step in this process. your reaction to this? >> well jake sullivan knew when he was pushing that lie it was indeed a lie. in fact many people throughout the federal government knew that including cia director john brennan who two days before the clinton team decided to concoct this trump russia scandal, they essentially told president obama that it was fake and then it was meant as political dirt to help hillary clinton and hurt one donald john trump. that is the only reason why they did. this they did this because they feared that donald trump was going to win the election fair and square.

they had to find a way to hurt him in the public eye. elizabeth: well former cia director john brennan declassified notes with obama indicate what they were talking about. show the tweet from hillary clinton. she tweeted the allegations as if they were the product of independent news but when her campaign paid for it. the fbi debunked it as false. the mueller report didn't touch it. the hillary campaign and dnc was funding christopher steele trump research and doj watchdog said was phony too. talk about the 2016 meeting in july. it is former cia director john brennan. he declassified notes, ford. he is saying that hillary's senior foreign policy advisor proposed stirring up a scandal to vilify trump, claiming russian interference. that is thought to be jake sullivan. and jake sullivan in 2017 he admitted in testimony, yeah i talked to cnn, abc, nbc, fox about my suspicions.

so he is is at nsa right now. your reaction? >> that is exactly right because we need to get to the bottom of this. political parties shouldn't matter. i am concerned that the mainstream media outside of your show, emac, doesn't care because it involves donald trump and republicans. let me tell you something, i had several friend who were caught up in this scandal who lost the livelihood because of the fact that the hillary clinton campaign made up a whole story out of cloth to essentially hurt the trump campaign. it didn't stop when donald trump was elected. they continued this farce for three years beyond that and they weaponized the deep state and federal government against their own political opponent. we need to get to the bottom of this, because we have to make sure this never happens again. elizabeth: yes. >> unfortunately i don't believe there is an appetite in washington to find out exactly what happened. elizabeth: not right now. this is about sabotaging a presidency by sparking limitless federal investigations, year's long media frenzy when they were

connecting the dots, not looking at the facts. meanwhile innocent people, their families were hurt, purely for politics. you wonder if durham's investigation is going to result in process crimes just as mueller ensnared several trump associates in process crimes. again no trump-russia collusion found in the mueller report. your final word? >> well look sussman is definitely a process crime. he had to be brought forward because of the statute of limitation. i think durham's 27 page indictment tells where you wants to go. i hope when republicans take back the house in 2022, they pick up where the indictment left off because there is a lot here. elizabeth: i don't think the country ever seen the intelligence services, the fbi used in such a way for a political campaign. it is pretty striking. ford o'connell. thanks for joining us. we're coming out of the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. up next, have you checked out what is going on at the gas pump?

congresswoman beth van duyne with gas prices set to rise. why the president's policies could be to blame. european union, other allies warning about inflation and rising costs. what it could mean for your wallet. president biden admitting the border is not under control. illegal alien convictions more than quadrupled from last year. texas governor is really taking on the white house. we've got it all. stay there. >> the biden administration needs to step in to do something about the crisis. it is out of control. we've been talking day in, day out, and for years and there is no action from them. oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? so you only pay for what you need. sorry? limu, you're an animal!

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they're the future the push by the biden administration towards green energy has not done anything to help restore the nation's refining capacity and that's a problem. look behind me. maybe you see what used to be the philadelphia energy solutions refinery. the sun is setting on it both literally and figuratively today. it is shut down permanently. once the largest refinery on the east coast. it is one of six that have shut in the past year-and-a-half or so since the biden administration took office. you know, it's tough when your focus is on green energy and electrification to get refineries to do their thing. if you look at the top three refineries shut in the last year. the philadelphia refinery, 300,000 plus barrels a day of product coming out of that. a shell refinery in louisiana, another 200,000. a tesoro refinery shut in california, another 160,000. the problem is, liz, if electrification doesn't come

quickly as some hope there will be a need for gasoline that goes out a little farther than some people think. it is awfully hard to get anybody to finance a new refinery. one has not been built in the u.s. since the 1970s. so hopefully those electric cars get here soon because if they don't, the squeeze will be on for gasoline that can only mean higher prices. liz? elizabeth: jeff flock, great journalism. great to have you back on, my friend. >> good to see you. elizabeth: joining, let's bring in congresswoman beth van duyne. what are they doing? you need gas to power electricity and electric cars. they're putting the cart before the horse here. they're upside down in their poll at this again. what is wrong with them? >> it's a great question. unfortunately i'm not in a position to defend any of their answering or their reasoning. it seems exactly counter intuitive for what this country needs right now. we had been energy independent the first time in a years. that gaves all sorts of power.

it gave us all sorts of control over costs we were experiencing in our own country. what you're seeing first thing this president did was shut down the keystone pipeline. now we're dependent on opec for our energy needs. we're no longer able to provide other countries access to additional energy, leaving them dependent on hostile foreign nations for their energy at a time in this country when we are, we are starving. you're seeing inflation going up. and you're seeing 74% in some areas, increased prices at the pump. it is affecting all of us. elizabeth: your point is well-taken that low oil prices from the oil boom, it is like sanctions on steroids against our foreign bad actors who want to hurt us because when oil prices drop they have to scramble because their budgets are built on this. the point is this, nothing

drives people to distraction of insanity than high gas prices. oil and gas gets the lights put on. it gets people to work. they're going upside down when they don't have the capacity to do green energy charging of cars. this is nothing, if not mind mindlessly breathtakingly idiotic. >> i agree with you. elizabeth: now he wants the ftc -- where is the proof of racketeering by the way with gas stations? he wants the ftc to crack down on them? this is like the irs going after the little guy with 600-dollar pang accounts. that is the middle class taxpayers. that is the small businessman. that is the small businesswoman. you know what? they don't have the tax attorneys that the big guys can afford to pay. when you have them going after the oil and gas sector which by the way kept us out of recession in 2008 after the collapse, i got to say this is mindlessly idiotic. >> i could not agree with you more. you're looking at the administration doing exactly the

opposite what common sense would tell you, what a freshman in econ 101 would know. you're killing economy. crushing working families. for an administration that claims they will not affect, increase any taxes or increase the amount that people are paying, that aren't, quote, rich, making less than 400,000, that is exactly what you are doing. you are crushing working families. not only are they paying more at the gas tank but they're now paying more everywhere because let's face it, if you're trying to get food, how do you think food gets to the grocery store? you have having trucks paying more for that gas. why we're experiencing 5% more at the grocery store. more than 24% more to buy clothes. you're looking at more than 56% more to buy a used car if you can find one. these are crushing our working families, crushing the working class. all because these are ridiculous policies that are causing nothing more than grief. it is all about control, control, control.

elizabeth: sorry i got a little head up there. i worry about the little guy out there. >> absolutely. i couldn't agree more. elizabeth: congresswoman beth van duyne, good to see you. you will come back on. coming up later this hour, illegal alien criminal convictions nobody is talking about ha but we have been the last five years. they quadrupled the in the last year. texas governor said you opened up the floodgates. we'll take our own hands. historic budget with the state of texas. the president finally admitting the crisis is not under control. deroy murdoch, black lives matter protests erupting outside of a restaurant over covid vaccine card fights. you're watching "the evening edit." this is fox business.

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elizabeth: look who is back with us, fox news contributor deroy murdoch. he is such a great writer. deroy, black lives matter protested at carmine's

restaurant in new york city. accused the host test of racism. they had a huge fight between the hostess and three black female tourists from texas on covid vaccine cards. >> i've been to carmine's. serve great food with very large portions. very sad that black lives matter got involved in this particular case. robberies are going up. rapes, assaults, certainly homicides. black people getting killed by other black people. blm doesn't get involved. in this instance, words are exchanged, something like that, the black patrons attacked the white hostess. because black white opportunity to increase tensions and increase antagonism in this country. here comes blm to stir the racial pot. basically interracial arson. that is what they do. that is highly unfortunate. i wish they stay away from the situations. not make them any worse. create new opportunities for black and white folks to hate each other anymore.

elizabeth: three patrons allegedly assaulted the 24-year-old hostess when she asked for a vaccine card. black lives matter protesters, the three were arrested reportedly after the incident. the attorney said there was a racial slur involved. that is being investigated. but these blm demonstrators are demonstrating against the use of covid vaccine cards as well. they feel they're disproportionately affect black people. your reaction? >> well, that is a very interesting point they raise. this has come up a little bit, probably not as much as it should, the population demographic segment apparently least vaccinated happen to be black people. to the degree you require people to show proof of vaccination, that means a lot of folks can't get into restaurants, bars, concert facilities, happen to be black. people on the left usually call this disparate impact. if you're black, have to show i.d., it is racist. it is not racist to have black

people show vaccine cards. elizabeth: deroy, why protest at the restaurant? protest in city hall. protest in washington, d.c.? why go after a restaurant? it is so offer the wall, mindless thinking who is to blame for things like mandates, right? go ahead. >> well, this, look this is what is so easy about issuing mandates they have, city hall under mayor bolshevik as i call him, it is not up to the nypd, anybody he controls to enforce this particular edict. it is up to the restauranttures, waiters, hosts, hoe tests, et cetera. they are the ones on the front lines who deal with angry customers or diners who don't want to show cards, get upset about it. they have essentially privatized enforcement of this particular fiat. you get the blow back like you saw here at carmine's. another example after sort of a almost, you know, mandate that

is issued with the clause of having to be taken care of by the private sector. >> i want to get to this. fbi director christopher wray said they have seen disturbing up tick of violence against police officers. watch this. >> in just the first eight months of this year, 52 law enforcement officers have been feloniously killed on the job. elizabeth: 52. your reaction? >> you know that is a huge number. we hear from black lives matter and other people, if you listen to them, means a black man i can't walk down the street without aiming their guns at me, sort of like target practice. in fact you have many, many more police officers killed by perpetrators, some of them black, many of them black unfortunately more than black folks unarmed attacked by the police. so much these days, upside down land. story here is one thing. reality is exactly 180 degrees opposite. elizabeth: you're terrific. we'll have you back on again soon.

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sue and back with us now, it is great to see you and first let's deal with homeland security 70 denied media reports that border rebirth agents were using webs on horseback to stop illegals fe rio grande. and today is think it's going to be investigated iran a criticism that the stories been taken out of context what you say. guest: was out there who looked to me like it was just part of what the writer was made up of, was on the weapon i don't know, i don't know if the news is investigating tonight i wasn't there and i didn't see it but it

didn't look like any big deal to me just from watching the video. elizabeth: 's flight rains in order to control the horse as well so that is the issue is well rated so the border patrol ortiz told reporters in texas they saw nothing wrong with us that these low rates the whips to control their horses western to this 20 when your high and illegal border crossings in a migrant camp problem they're going to dial it back down 2000 people moved out. dhs now is monitoring 24500 potential more migrant and into the southern border. when report said they reported 30000 in your comment on that pretty. guest: it just seems to get worse and worse i'm concerned about that more than i am about the sources because this is affecting every texan in the border tremendously as 20 affect the entire nation but with the crime and drugs and the biden administration just cannot seem to get this under control.

not sure they want to really keep inviting people and they came allowing people to stay in the release that there is really nothing good to talk about in the biden administration has done as a relates to the immigration problem pretty. >> sue and illegal alien crimes are ready quadrupled the school year to date versus last year. by the way border patrol is signing at the difficulty in distinguishing the migrants from human smugglers crossing back and forth in the river in the show the viewers the crimes that we are talking about here drugs possession driving under the influence and assaulted robbery and larceny homicides the present date today many for the first time, the border is not under control in your reaction to that news. guest: tend to reality joe biden come is pretty obvious from the numbers that we are three times more crossings than we had just a year ago and i am not surprised the border chief cannot distinguish between

smugglers and those embedding bs shows a chaotic place are so many people crossing, it's very confusing. and as the problem, leading to many people crossing are not able, not able to do their jobs and stopping smugglers and fentanyl this is all going to cost lives along with what were going to see with the spread of covid-19 where that is going to head across the country. elizabeth: you and i, we have been talking about this for five years, the evening at it, we decided to cover this and we saw the economic impact on local border towns and cities that was being underreported we got a lot of pushback for doing this story and the media still not covering the story as we think, as it is observed and now you got, just about triple the thing, border budget for the state of texas to nearly $2 billion. is that true predict. guest: yes and was i appreciate and appreciate you covering this, you're one of the few focus on this issue is one of

the number one interview pulled the texans this would be ranked number one or two because they realize the impact on our state is really costing us a lot of money as we put the money that you talk about, billions of dollars in doing with the federal government should be doing and that they were doing under donald trump at this administration is that no, we don't want to do the things that stopping it, were going to do the things don't work in the things that we saw are done under president obama will void go back to this because we know it didn't work so it looks like, the president trump was try to fix the problem and it looks like the joe biden is doing just the opposite. elizabeth: the numbers that were sing are approaching by the same levels where they were under obama as you just noted, that is interesting because they came down and they can backup pretty final word. guest: we saw one happen under obama and we knew the policies didn't work you really try to stop illegal immigration was on numbers drop dramatically and the president trump the policy stated that no more catch and release, the wall was working

and joe biden said no, we are going to go the life rated. elizabeth: is going to have you on, come back again soon it's good to see you. elizabeth mcdonald and you have been watching evening at it on foxbusiness and thank you so much for watching and join us again tomorrow night. >> breaking news tonight gabby petito was in fact murder, the sad reality revealed an autopsy report which in the manner of death, to be homicide and also but a huge surprise, her fiancé brian laundrie still nowhere to be found, so what do the police to now and as you know it best interest and gabby petito bobby and body deep in the national park and missing on a mentor with her financing early this month and brian laundrie drove back alone pretty in last week,