going to go the life rated. elizabeth: is going to have you on, come back again soon it's good to see you. elizabeth mcdonald and you have been watching evening at it on foxbusiness and thank you so much for watching and join us again tomorrow night. >> breaking news tonight gabby petito was in fact murder, the sad reality revealed an autopsy report which in the manner of death, to be homicide and also but a huge surprise, her fiancé brian laundrie still nowhere to be found, so what do the police to now and as you know it best interest and gabby petito bobby and body deep in the national park and missing on a mentor with her financing early this month and brian laundrie drove back alone pretty in last week, he managed a reportedly went for

a hike in nature reserve printed because that's a totally normal thing to do when your fiancé is missing. and the police resume their search because get this, is infested with gators and snakes. watch pretty. >> the train is very difficult and essentially any 5 percent of it is underwater. in other areas are dry, we are trying to clear so were expecting to get by the end of the day to check the entire area where brian laundrie is printed. .kennedy: it's unclear what they were looking for but today, families attorneys cancel the press conference let's get back to gabby petito her families released a statement asking for privacy until ronnie is returned to them on your long island it and this is video of the corners office in jackson, wyoming. after the autopsy what was the initial report means for the

case and for the hearing in the coming days. breakdown more certified pathologist, welcome to the show. guest: thank you for having me. so obviously, the two things we've learned today most tragically which some had to anticipate event you know i don't think there's not much hope, we learned that it in fact gabby petito in the manner of death was homicide how can they determine that so quickly. what are so many factors the point homicides. guest: i just want to say, one of the most important things today was formerly identify her. i think we are all assuming it is really i think important forclosure from the family to know this truly is her. and given their probably decompensation another changes after she died in given that it's been a length of time, the probably was not the easiest thing to do just by looking at her, he could not tell. and over the course of the

autopsy, evaluating injuries and the findings, i'm sure that them to make a determination of homicide. now i want to specify that this is a medical legal term, the paulette and pathologist use pretty the legal ramifications of that are separate so murder is a legal term if you will not homicide is death at the hands of another. and so i'm sure they found injuries to substantiate that predict. kennedy: so obviously there are place that she could have passed and would not have been so obvious to make it clear after her autopsy, that it was in fact, side and what are some of the more clear indicators. guest: i don't have any special information, and distorted giving you my approach to a case like this and given that this case they saw homicide and

evaluating for all sorts of injuries whether it is gunshots, stab wounds, regulations, a blunt force over the head, any or all of those in combination need to be considered. so i think they do the detailed evaluation are looking for any abnormalities super because otherwise she's young healthy 21 -year-old is so. kennedy: obviously because of decomposition and the like, may take time and other experts including entomologists. in forensic anthropologist in order to determine bone damage and things like that so what can we expect in the coming days in terms of specifics. guest: so that is exactly right, these are not straightforward cases by any means and obviously homicide has to be handled with the utmost care and then the decomposition and changes at a

level of complexity to the entirety and we have resources such as expert at the anthropologist who we work closely with. if we suspect like bone, whether it be that neck bone or the high bone which is sometimes damaged and strangulation rib fractures are one of their trauma there may be as well as determining time of death is challenging indeed. their extreme weather conditions, mountainous and tried not a lot of shady and also a variety of animals out there that can enough. the body even after death. and that can change appearances of the tissues in the bones prayed so that's when entomologists would come in collecting the box and helping analyze and to see if we can backtrack to a better sense of time of death is not going to be

very specific but maybe narrow the window or days that we are talking about. if that's all in context when she was excommunicated with which gives us an idea of activity as well. kennedy: and thank you so much for your time and obviously, our thoughts go out to her family because this is so incredibly difficult and also because there's so much interest in the story and you know obviously as people more invested in it, they want answers but her family as you said once closure and hopefully they will receive that when they get word of more of those findings in the eight autopsy. guest: thank you and bye-bye printed. kennedy: flesh more focused on the final days of gabby petito and brian laundrie the trip and is a glaring red flag in their relationship. we know from police body cam footage and that 911 call, the couple was physically fighting and now we know from a witness

and from the same day told police that i heard her say, what he have to be so mean pretty is as if the guy was trying to leave her and maybe take her phone. a park ranger on the scene said that she told gabby relationship seemed toxic pretty meanwhile according to a newly search warrant, the final text message event gabby sent her mother set off more alarm bells in the tech she referred to her grandpa by his first name and she had never done that in the same day, her phone was turned off. summa can detectives learn from this kind of information. psychology expert and former agent, doctor mary beth, welcome to the show. so think one of the more interesting aspects of this case is this abusive relationship and it to be between two people on how to simply into the investigation of brian laundrie. guest: first of all, you and i

are sort of monday morning quarterbacking. we are trying to guess based on the little bit we know now. but from what we are hearing, sounds me like there might've been a pattern in their relationship that may or may not qualify for we call insert or we call it lots of things domestic abuse intimate violence and there is that pattern of behavior that is meant to create a system of power and control over the persons and in this case it would be brian laundrie over gabby petito and is not typically one time occurrence. and power and control, it may be the key. kennedy: the park ranger is a first responder who passed to assess what is going on in people quickly and been trying to do that and when she is following gabby as i think this is a toxic relationship, get out of here and she doesn't know gabby and all that she is giving her some pretty clear-cut

advice. so is obvious to her that something was amiss and this was someone to avoid. guest: yeah, so what indicators while the little that i thought i didn't hear about that until you show candidate but i had heard of their evidence that has come out, you sort of look at a lot of different pieces of how could he gain that power and control over her and what was at park ranger concerned about. gabby seem to be very emotional and maybe confused and maybe she showed signs of being afraid of brian and that's a possibility and intimidated by him. we don't know what got into our they are but again, this is not something that happens in the bubble. it's not a one-time event that all of a sudden gabby was very upset and brian murdered her. kennedy: so let's say that he's a narcissistic and abusive boyfriend who maybe did

something very bad to his girlfriend. two people like that, when they are in fact guilty of a horrific crime blessing that he is, only a judge and jury can determine the outcome there. but, the people at that typically take their own lives or do narcissistic people tend to avoid suicide. guest: yeah, that's also a complicated question of course because chris's back to durham and the personality disorders coming of the raging very streamed narcissistic you know, is the person really irritated and arrogant in their very i know the best people and go to the best restaurant and i know so-and-so. but then you have people of all the lower spectrum and then depending on who you're talking to you can bring narcissistic down two different types right so in the traditional narcissist, not typically because they see themselves as powerful and fair year and like

any certain place in the world. like there may be not going to catch me. because i am awesome partied so it's really hard to see because everybody is different pretty. kennedy: pearlescent he said type, is the probability that he would harm himself. it is lower because of that feeling of. guest: but he has to know unless he's completely keeping in touch with what is going on in the world, he feels people coming closer and closer to him so he's feeling the pressure of the walls are closing and so we don't know and may be, could be the ultimate thing to say, to have for the world, i'm going to take my life and you wanting to know what happened to me or to gabby. so it's really hard to predict. people are unpredictable and we don't know what is going through brian laundrie said whether he has any communication with anybody else. see the hearts of hard.

izzy kicking back and having a bear city on a recliner watching tv right now watching us, we don't know partied. kennedy: one of her friends but on the record and sent them for the first said the brian was hearing voices and episodes of sleeplessness. he would hear voices and gabby would sometimes leave the house, does that give you pause. guest: it does give me pause. sleep disorders again very complex. there are a lot of things and some people take medication for them and it can also have really scary side effects of marketing and i don't want to name a drug because i don't want to badmouth but there's a particular sleeping pill the people, there have been murders committed and then people claimed they couldn't remember partied they had done anything that they were sleepwalking and they hurt somebody night they killed somebody the sleeping disorders

and hearing voices is concerning because you know i don't hear voices. that's a delusion or psychotic break from reality when you know a lot more seriously than of your average psychiatric disorder. kennedy: thank you so much. guest: you're welcome and thank you for having me. kennedy: coming up the biden enchanted, and of canada atkinson coven in the border and spinning plans to democrats should they be worried about disastrous 2022 or 24. whole 6 feet apart covid-19 policy and former fda official said nobody knows the reason behind it. why is nobody following this science. what the heck is science. stay with us.

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much dead. afghanistan in the southern borders chaos and only a thin majority of democrats and house and senate are getting nervous. so the president's first term about to blood credos means tonight person to talk all about it. alexander. i haven't and also former state department spokesperson, fox news contributor, here and liberty and chief of staff, rated r18, let us go predict so alexander, the president is trying to make case to the un that everything is great. nothing to see here printed what is most problematic in the president biden right now pretty. guest: i think the afghanistan situation was a point for this administration because it laid there all the deficiencies, we

saw for the administration. but they didn't adequately cover solo, when americans are saying that level of an effort to other television screens are seeing a leader the doesn't look very confident or purpose driven speaking to them in the images on the television screen come all of a sudden these domestic agenda items, i think really come to sharper focus. in a way they would not have if we didn't have afghan center in afghanistan have been ready for the very eyes. kennedy: that's a good point is nothing we were watching fell apart in real time. with very tragic consequences. and marie, another a lot of democrats who want the paint a rosy picture here and i respect to coming want to be optimistic and support your president and your party. my only question is if this is great, i want to know what bad looks like. guest:

[laughter] think president biden today actually did not painted overly optimistic optimistic picture. i do think that he gave a very strong speech today at the un that i thought it was one of his best he has given betty sent confronting some really big challenges in the world we can't leave any of them alone and never of us can go alone here in this way market is going to work with other countries and change with the last four years look like simple, i'm not going to paint a rosy picture but what will happen if democrats in congress cannot get some of this legislation aspirated joe biden printed doing this and members of congress rented doing this i think there's a compromise to be out here. until think it will be 3.5 trillion at the end of the day but i do think that you're going to hear nancy pelosi particularly, making the case to her carcass that they need to deliver for the american people and a lot of but in this bill, is quite popular it's a democrats have to perform and show american voters why they should keep the majority pretty. kennedy: but you know it's not

popular, too much spending that the country can afford which then in turn checks up everybody's taxes even though making under $400,000 a year. sick of it couldn't more kennedy, jan democrats and configuring about having trillions of dollars we are going to spend and 70 better tell them, we are broken don't have the money. they reported this week the u.s. treasuries taking in 1 dollar for every $2 and spending and americans are going bankrupt and they just want to keep talking about spending money for here's the thing kennedy, nothing to care. america is becoming a flip-flop from opposite, son about response full management of the budget, is for working americans doing of the money the special interest groups pretty for the next election pretty. kennedy: to the canyons in the big corporations who are immune to the laws which punished small businesses and individuals and families and unacceptable predict because we are awesome

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that is the defund the police programs, while this seems to be backfiring predict seeking an additional $200 million a year for the ball and chicago cubs cops in 2022 budget and after suing gang members in civil court as a way to clean up the cratering metropolis. have all the police departments have been or are likely to be cut so officers are retiring in droves in seattle, 287 officers have resided since last year in portland so far behind with 145 vacancies in oakland and at their walking patrols in places like chinatown and older asian women had to pay the price. targets for assault another hate crimes and don't get me started on my hometown since last year, or menacing and 82 percent spike in homicides and a staggering 7d mayors in places like these areas are pretty unpopular with

the populist achievement does not or even if there's no correlation between defendant departments in the shooting spree, when people feel unsafe, they want to be governor different people. the slogan, who march enchanted it, defund the police, the policy acting so they require informed scalpels and these one-size-fits-all chance for slaughter or republicans are happy to capitalize on this clumsy miscalculation. hiring more cops does nothing to keep the balance ones off the streets and what could've been a solid moment for meaningful reform, has been squandered by hacks but were willing to throw good cops on the bus for bad policies will only hurt the ones most in need of protection. and speaking of man's, san francisco mayhem went out partying without a mask this week and you seen this video needs being accused of breaking

their own covid-19 rules but in her defense, she was feeling the spirit you guys. >> the fun police are telling us what we should or should be doing, we know what we need to do to protect ourselves pregnant i started to dance because i was feeling the spirit and i was thinking about a mask. kennedy: gaba no one else is allowed to do it because she is the fun police, literally, locally and federal government have become the fun police even if you are vaccinated. you still have to wear a mask in places like san francisco and chicago so which mayor is more fluid in the arctic palace is back. shaun, you can go ahead and take this, who would you like to tackle. guest: this talk about london. whether it is the enemies or the dinner parties which i'm still not god in the invite by the

way, but terrifying to break their own mask borders, just as long as they can enforce them on who they deem the other class, working americans with living paycheck to paycheck and they claim to support in creating a cap system taste on safety theater and hysteria, let's call it for what it is but years ago i think about this. if we can go up, we can use it in the next time someone says, haywire to complying to the latest covid-19 mandate give up your liberties, we just take about i was feeling the spirit man targeted so yeah, what you know. kennedy: what are you marie, the fun police pretty. guest: i thought that was my nickname from you. i think will look, i think politicians they should follow rules that they put in place i think our explanation it was ridiculous but i will say they have a very low covid-19 right now so a lot of hypocrisies from other people living in other

states. who criticized her when their states are literally on fire. you'll hear people talk about freedom when it comes to winter have wearing mass indoors and there's also rising rumor want the freedom to live their lives without being put at risk because of the unvaccinated. i think that is the conversation going to have to keep having kennedy pretty. kennedy: in there the vaccines they don't if they don't, then the risk, get vaccinated and if do work on the unvaccinated should be able to vaccine rather should be able to do whatever they wanted the unvaccinated at this point, true pretty. guest: she said everybody is vaccinated, and you feel the spirit, take the mask off. kennedy: what would you like to say alexander. guest: how many times we going to do this.

whether it is hairdresser or the mayor or a wedding or we go through this and feels like every single week predict and i just have a very hard time feeling bad from san francisco because they have chosen to elect one party rule and every single level and allows this kind of behavior to exist. in absolute power corruption absolutely and this is why the mayor can give an answer like that and get away with it because the people of her city keep voting that kind of hypocrisy. kennedy: but she's feeling the spirit you guys pretty much out of the school doesn't want to wear a mask, she feels the spirit, hallelujah meanwhile to feel like that covid-19 goat printed guide lines have been arbitrary and random will sort his former commissioner scott who now said is sick and u.s.

senate foot social distancing recommendation came out of thin air pretty. >> is arbitrary and seven nobody knows when he came from initial detonation the cdc brought the white house was 10 feet and a political appointee in the white house and we can't recommend to be nobody can measure 10 feet is inoperable society was shut down so it was wrong six and 10 feet was no more right than 6 feet and ultimately 3 feet printed. kennedy: might've been come 1 foot and a half right nobody knows where it came from yet it is forced on us for over a year and a half. tv commercials repeated it at the coliseum and the floor stickers are every where and other dumb rules has the government just been making up printed. guest: i am flabbergasted kennedy that people in dc do not know the answer. for sending our best and brightest to the washington #i guess i was wrong.

politicians enforcing these and then nobody takes them up. and just following this science, and if you call them out, you get sensor for unit and just tweeted the other day lack of accountability leads to endless journey we need to set up to it. what about you marie, do you really think that there is someone with a tape measure and some sort of a geiger counter is assessing drop drop to came up with that brilliant metric. guest: i think there are a lot of doctors looking at droplets versus aerosols and what they all agree on is that further apart is better and outside is better. so this is a disease in two years ago, none of us ever heard of and so as the science becomes clearer throughout the month, have updated the guidance pablo, there was never anything special about 60, it was an effort by scientists and doctors to say,

saying further apart is better is also become clear the mask is really important came inside there still yes of people fighting against that piece of science so as evolved as we sort of mark and should use an evolutionary process and somehow we undermine it. kennedy: so are all mass created equal. guest: no. you're asking me, they are not, they are not created equal pretty. kennedy: but they are supposed to be magical. alexandria, i don't think that anyone knows the answer to most executive still have things that we know don't work predict like partitions, we know they don't work pretty. >> in war, plexiglass predict. guest: if we were truly following the signs we would be testing the efficacy of these measures in hindsight to understand it if they work and things like mass and social distancing and we would be

trying to see if they actually did stop the spread and mitigate the effects of covid-19. instead, what you have is this doubling down a on these measures that make no sense and for example, the government now wants to mask my toddler read and you now have this doubling down which equates to performative science, and people who hang onto the mask like a religion, they are not interested and not intellectually curious and anything else that challenges that orthodox pretty. guest: they just found people that they wanted put the mask on because there's no longer the science to say to wear the mask targeted. kennedy: okay thank you so much for having a wonderful conversation tonight. the white house working on the border crisis trying to take the heat off of the president and

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flip flopping and whether the border agents are using windsor chains of god knows what else are rated by knows watch this. >> there would think people in my question to you. [inaudible]. >> your assuming that if i may say respectfully, your assuming the fact that not yet been determined pretty to ensure control, of the force, long rains are used. we're going to investigate the facts to ensure that this situation it is as we understand to be and if it's anything different, we will respond accordingly. any mistreatment work under or abusive of margaret is unacceptable, and against border patrol policy and training in our department spell is we are very troubled by what we have seen it i was horrified by what i saw. kennedy: for mechanics and really howie is healing for unit one question, you have your fax

targeted he says i'm discussing going to barf all over myself party and the secretary alejandro mayorkas is saying what is happening at the border joining me to discuss and post a fox news radio. so which is it. it this is very common for the administration like one day, you have no idea what you're talking about the next, i'm appleabsolutely disgusted targeted. guest: is a gas lighter and often wrong about everything at the border but his instinct was correct when he was asked about the whips because that is not true, then did not happen it, border patrol agents do not have whips, these were rains to control the horses and so in the fog of it with all of this outrage at being whipped out yesterday, in the border patrol teams, hold your horses, that is happening. his ally lie and i did that for you kennedy. wordplay but .

kennedy: i'm worried about the horses brain. guest: i'm also worried about everybody involved the now, i think he's either going to be forced order from god in a memo that he is supposed now pronounce himself horrified because that's with the white house did and that's what progressive twitter did. and when i saw this trending yesterday, there were videos and i was nervous to press play because i was told that we would see people being whipped. in this what happened and so alejandro mayorkas told the truth inadvertently before the white house lied was established on the line is we are horrified and notice, if anyone were mistreated or abused the most holy and. there's no evidence that happened, there was an interview earlier on "fox news" channel the senior official border patrol called sandra smith, they were doing exactly what they were trained to do which is what alejandro mayorkas was basically saying yesterday, they had to backtrack because they decided that this is our new narrative

and were mad at and both are of the border agents on the bus. kennedy: the estimate that to be a bigger story who are huddled under an overpass or now because there's a massive storm coming in and whatever encampments that is been put up charlie is going to wash away and put these people in even it later carol and then they are going to end up deporting all of them back to haiti. guest: that's likely outcome here but that's exactly has party to give you gotta get that off the front page predict. guest: the distraction here is this is an opportunity to be mad about something that is more comfortable printed because that's what i think the bothers me the most about the stories much of the press and left activist and all of people members of congress who work blending their garments under far less severe situations under president trump when he came to illegal immigrants in the border crisis. and they've been slumbering for months as this problem has been

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kennedy: this very date benedict arnold committed treason against american army which explains why he was honored rose garden this morning by president biden. as a leader on the wrong side of history. and here's a tropical storm that we are. topic number one. getting been here anything. two men arrested new zealand to attended to smuggle kfc into a

lockdowns of the notes up to the forced to decide if this has a kernel of truth predict happened on the outskirts in new zealand were lockdowns with an forbidden travel predict new zealand, they been making the taliban to come liberate them and police all over with a say was a suspicious call they can buckets of chicken. and slaw and at the reports, it was a kardashian mother junk in the trunk targeted smugglers also met about 70 grams in cash which the most anyone is information selling bread. chicken smuggling is no joke, they will face up to six months in prison making gives the most unlawful chicken since brian laundrie prayed topic number two predict a group of german scientists, trying to potty train cal's radiocarbon,

drinking and driving, and something covid-19 and streets friends, this is the movement, designated locales have been trained to do their business for unit when i first heard that cows were being potty trained, i feared there was a bunch of bull crap, the scientist train cal's rewarding them with treats and this is also why they give joe biden so much ice cream. good tinkle mr. president ironically this company like a race horse and research teams and is available to train 16 calves, to use the potty pan and enter five are failures. in the greenhouse gas emission to protect the soil from nitrates found in cow urine and if it doesn't work, will they can always move these pens in new york city mark in the spacious studio coffins pretty look at that, there's only to mr., topic number three. it is now time for tropical storm conspiracy theories.

president, what did i say. vice president, harris and a quantize howard university football game and she was blaming with a roar of tents in the tens of of adoring fans some viewers notice the stadium appeared almost entirely empty pretty that's given rise to the conspiracy theory that the noise is being pumped into the stadium you be the judge. [applause] >> were four people there, good board printed the noise of the crowd biscuits and in a can't say for sure where it came from but i think i hear some of them chanting, build the wall pretty to build the wall. there is a massive crowd who wants to cheer for kamala

harris, currently living in or a bridge along the texas border and the college football games are normally better attendance. they saw, coming and they didn't want to get started prison from we departed and sadly now the coin toss and toss the players said the rest of the game fighting over who got to keep the coin. the truth is, i don't know if kamala used this but if she did it would be as that is nancy pelosi mentee runs on the botox brady and coming up, and lifestream, topic number four oriented volcanic eruption on the canary islands vice president if you ask me, they should know that was coming when all of the canary slow way. [laughter] thank you. yep, this is the island in the aftermath of volcanic eruptions and i assumed it was none other

joe biden drone strike. towns have been evacuated as lava. too bad there's nothing to cool enough but unfortunately the rain in spain falls daily on the plane, and that is the mountains. and sunday, this expected to continue for weeks and months and it all depends on him an emergency town has to throw into sacrifice to it printed don't worry, the animals are being rescued and the sheep just a few minutes away from becoming blevins when he was saved from a fiery death by a brave worker and thank goodness, decadent been really bad. before we go, to jokes, yes on twitter #, don't look enough, here we go. why do these compare, the answer next. and a couple of years later, my mother passed away.

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