>> a little news from the hill, they have been told to leave their cell phones outside, we have a picture of it, that doesn't press, have a wonderful weekend, "the evening edit" start right now. elizabeth: it looks like democrats are backing down, they will cut the price tag for the big social spending this is after progressive celebrated taking the infrastructure vote that vote has yet to be held, the d.c. back story we have for you tonight, how the democrats ignited their own civil war we have more on the tolerant democrats and their bullying tolerant name-calling against each other, president biden ran on uniting america but now he

can't get his own party to sit at the same table, the future of the white house and democrat-controlled congress in jeopardy. joining me tonight tim burgess, mitch rochelle, texas attorney general ken paxton, deputy national security adviser kt mcfarland, doctor marc siegel, braden arnold from the taxpayers union and ralph norman, it is a jampacked our the democrats buckling realizing the reality check bounced. they don't have a mandate that means the slimmest majority in a century that justify spending not seen since wartime, were catching more weight as every tax bracket will see their tax bills go up plus mexico and panama say they warned the white house to stop the border crisis, criminal cartel control the border, new caravans of 60000 potentially coming in the

majority fentanyl network involving mexico and china broke it up. the news we brought you last night panama caught 100 terrorists trying to get to the u.s. border in the last two years and were digging into the new subpoenas from john durham, more details on what hillary clinton's campaign was allegedly doing inside the government to bring down trauma. the fight to stop the pandemic and new promising pill taking orally from drugmaker, california the first in the nation to mandate vaccines from k - 12 schoolchildren. the new fico go to the supreme court two dozen states plan to battle but under president biden's plan to pay for the massive spending by letting the irs snooping everyone's bank accounts assuming right off the bat you are a financial criminal, we have the roadmap to how this is unconstitutional. thank you for joining us i'm elizabeth macdonough, "the evening edit" start right now.

♪ we began with stocks, they were up to kickoff october the dow s&p 500 in the nasdaq, u.s. markets slide over 4% in september, no vote on infrastructure this is a hit to the white house of the democrat party both sides in a crisis mode, they went to capitol hill trying to seal a deal. hillary vaughn has more. >> house democrats grumbled that the president was not more involved in this process. he showed up on their doorstep the question was he going to rally support for the bipartisan infrastructure bill that you people the oc promised a vote on today. but instead of doing that he did not ask them to vote for but instead focus on reconciliation first. progressives walked away from the meeting taking a victory lap and moderates feeling defeated. >> it does not matter when it

doesn't matter six minutes, six days or six weeks. were gonna get it done. >> the president made clear he did not have a timetable and he also said he doesn't want to focus on the price tag but ultimately it would have to go down from 3.5 trillion to 2 trillion to meet something that senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema can stomach. he spent hours negotiating with them but far away from a deal. >> he was very clear were gonna have to get -- he said i support entirely and if i thought i could do it right now i would. the president said we will get them both done and in order we have to get this agreement on the reconciliation. >> as you heard the president say it could be six weeks before any of this goes up for a vote. that is leaving a lot of republicans and moderates on uncertain ground, they thought they were at least getting a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill by today.

it's clearly not going to happen. elizabeth: thank you for the great reported. joining is now tennessee congressman tim burchard from house infrastructure and macro trends advisor, wall street pro the founding partner of mitch rochelle. it looks like they get a move on a smaller highway transportation bill tonight, the democrats civil war is getting nastier it appears speaker pelosi may not have the votes to pass either bill, are they to blame for their own civil war. >> yes, ma'am, they are they given away to the far left democrat socialist wing of the party and when they continue to do that they marginalize those caught in the middle 50 or 75 democrats that you would consider moderate and what they're doing sacrificing them on the altar of the upcoming election where we will take the majority and they know it and they have to push through their left-wing agenda before they could do anything and to call

this a train wreck is like saying the titanic was a 12-foot vote that hit an ice cube. this is out of control the democrats are frustrated, i've talked to several they know this will cost them the next election if they vote for another just hoping for some time. elizabeth: nancy pelosi told abc news she did have the votes, you're good at watching how wall street accepts signals from washington let's talk about things like this. watch. >> she said you have 95% of democrats the problem meeting 98, 99% to pass the bills. >> let's not talk about numbers and dollars let's talk about values. elizabeth: no, you have to talk about those numbers because they only have a net three vote margin they need every vote. if the messaging has been criticized as terrible, first

democrats and the white house tried to sell it as a human infrastructure than the five and half trillion cost 0. what do you say. >> it certainly doesn't cost 0 cost every single taxpayer regardless of the income level there is taxes on consumption like cigarettes and tobacco, they will be tax on gasoline there is a lot of regressive taxes. the thing that concerns me and should concern the electorate. everything most is concerned about the economy most and certainly inflation that affects everybody. ember talk about runaway spending that will create more inflation. value is one thing the value of america is to have a strong economy and the speaker seems not to care about the economy she cares about an agenda. elizabeth: to mitch's point, were finding more democrat oddities and waste in here, 20 billion for rent support for victims of stocking or dating violence. $50 million for human versus

wildlife encounters and national parks. hundreds of billions of dollars for green vehicles and buildings. 1.4 trillion more for government run healthcare, rashida tlaib state of over infrastructure is a betrayal, the poll numbers we have a new went from the associated press, half the country disapproves. >> you leaving out the 400 billion in debt and the new irs agents the multimillion dollar aspect of that. it is a complete whitewash it has nothing to do the infrastructure it's a complete social engineering from the far left and in the middle-of-the-road the folks get it and far left get it as well the have one bite at the apple and they have to have at this time if speaker pelosi had the votes she would've passed yesterday, she was supposed to pass it on monday and then she

said thursday is the deadline and as we said it's friday and as long as thursday in the history of the world she doesn't have her votes clearly doesn't have them and in the middle-of-the-road folks are struggling in the far left there cheering because what she's saying, clearly she has abandoned mainstream america. elizabeth: let's watch the democrats do nasty name-calling of each other. i would like you to take notice of the adult in the room tacking about inflation which is running at the hottest since 1991 at more than 4% annualized. >> most of the legislators for a long period of time and a lot of them are activist, my car is older than quite a few of the progressives. >> what would senator mention say two months ago. and the question that we have which senator are we negotiating with, is this june, august, will this be a different senator. >> the other thing that they have is record voting they need to look at that, i'm still

concerned about inflation, i'm still concerned. elizabeth: joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have told democrats and the white house that 1.5 cents trillion the summer, your reaction to what you just are? >> inflation is the number one issue and were about to hit the holiday season and there's some reports that regular gifts for the holidays can be up 20% year-over-year with supply chain shortages around the world. i think inflation is a huge issue in the way that the biden administration says this will cost nothing is to the crazy notion of dynamic scoring where they think the economy will go through and have% through 2031 the economy has not grown anything like that we have runaway inflation that will be here for a while. the math does not work and i think joe manchin is the adult in the room. elizabeth: heb bernie sanders

and elizabeth warren now is pushing the far left agenda the tax hikes on everyone as much as point out will not cover the spending. we had the democrat chair house budget congressman john your myth of kentucky state during half trillion inconsequential and disable cancel out the debt that we owe to china and. money, that would crash the dollar in a geopolitical crisis. listen to john kennedy they want to tax the unrealized gain saying when you inherit your parents house, even if you don't sell it you will have a tax bill. >> this is going to affect millions and millions of middle-class americans, it's going to the mall the real estate market in the market for other long-term assets. and i guess the moral of the story this is what happens, this is what happens when you have a president and the treasury secretary. who are on a mission from god to

please pink haired walkers that carry around the blog backs. this is what happens when you have a president and the secretary who attacks spend and regulate socialist. elizabeth: i wonder how long kale will last in zip lock bags. >> i don't eat kale but i'll tell you this my friend alexandria ocasio-cortez who is educated economics and public education is there a under economic advisor. these folks have never heard the gun go off you have a president that is not with it cognitively and were reaping the benefit of all of that and that's what's happening. until we ride this course and get control the economic condition in our country it will continue to go downhill and inflation is exactly right our inflation is at an all-time high

and it will continue that way and will continue to devalue our dollar by the runaway spending. elizabeth: thank you for joining us, it is good to see you. still to come more subpoenas the latest probe in the russian investigation were looking into what the clinton campaign was a allegedly up to where this could had. texas attorney general ken paxton on the national security risk, both mexico and panama warning the white house stop the border crisis, criminal cartel control the border, new caravans of 60000 heading to the border former top border official told us last night panama caught 100 terrorist trying to get to the border in the last three years. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. ♪

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them as they take their first steps into the river and a few splashes and a helping hand later the migrants are in the land of the free. tatiana and the group made the trek from cuba. >> my family, my mother, my brother coming with us. >> a bag in a few personal items to start a new life in a new country. depending on their situation many of these migrants are headed to border patrol, they loaded up and processed and they'd given a notice to appear for a later date and released into the u.s. but after the last massive migrant surge border towns like del rio are bracing for what could be up the road. the biden administration has softened of who should be arrested and deported, they can still families and individuals due to covid under title 42. elizabeth: thank you so much, texas attorney general ken paxton, give me what you just

heard given the nbc is reporting homeland security for a worst-case scenario of up to 400,000 coming to the border, crossing illegally is a crime, are we at that stage with the enforcement in place? >> you and i have been talking about this since biden came into office. it's gotten worse and worse every month new stories and new problems in different groups coming across the border. it seems like were making no progress, other then we went some of these lawsuits but as we win and get the court orders telling them to follow in telling the biden demonstration they have to follow federal law it doesn't seemed like there listening to court orders or federal law. were on our way back to federal court to get more information of whether there following the law which it doesn't seemed like they are. elizabeth: panama is warning 60000 is on the way, 30000 showed up at del rio, 12000 released into the united states, tom homan warned that panama

caught numerous terrorist trying to come into panama, watch tom homan last night. >> we have arrested numerous and panama in order to deport them from the area, that's a major route for that many people coming to panama that's a huge national security concern. elizabeth: how many were stopped in panama or central america that you know of. >> well over a hundred. elizabeth: is a isis, al-qaeda, who. >> various organizations. elizabeth: 100, what do you say over the last three years? >> i'm not surprised at all this is another thing we talked about on top of the crime and the drug importation, on top of covid and the spread of covid one of the concerns we had because it's so easy to cross the board and there invited in, if you're a terrorist this is your perfect opportunity to get embedded in this country we may not know for

years the impact of the biden administrations illegal policies as it relates to immigration when we start seeing this years from now there's more terrorism and not would be surprised in them really worried about it. elizabeth: we have the white house in the administration out with new rules of ice on cracking no criminal illegal aliens, your stay is already in a court fight, can you break this down. >> they have been very vague were not sure what they're doing they are required by law when people are released from prison whether state or federal prison the required to get a detainer and send them back to their country, they have not been doing that they have been allowing convicted felons and other criminals to stay in the country and complete violation of federal law we have really won that flight they are supposed to have new regulations that push forward and they have to deport these people. elizabeth: the weaker rules already let go of criminal illegal aliens accused of sexual assault, aggravated assault of a police officer, domestic

violence, drug crimes, the prior rules said ice can only go after an aggravated felony organelle gang member or terrorist. the new rules are weak ice cannot arrest an illegal if they had a lengthy presence in the u.s., mental condition that may contribute to the criminal conduct at hand or physical or mental condition requiring care or treatment and if they say they're a victim of a crime or witness to a crime they will not be held by ice, your reaction? >> my reaction, this is not following federal law and we will be back in court to deal with this they keep trying to skirt federal law and orders from courts to follow federal law apparently they don't think the federal law applies to them and they don't think the court system has any say on what federal law is. they're avoiding it and we will keep trying to stop them if we have to do that and spend the next four years in court pushing it we will do it. elizabeth: are you going to go

to the supreme court. i know they already reported texas. >> clearly one on the state in mexico and for a month we don't think they follow the court orders so were going back to say put deadlines on them let's have some discovery so we know what's happening so we can find out if there following court orders it does not appear that they have any regard for any law whether it's coming from congress or an interpretation by court. elizabeth: thank you ken paxton, it's good to see you. later this hour two dozen states plan to fight the president's plan to let the irs snoop on everyone's bank accounts looking on any transaction over $600 with the constitutional fight against it. more on john durham new subpoenas in the criminal probe of the trump russian investigation we will look more into the clinton campaign allegedly doing and where this could all be heading former national security official kt mcfarland is with us next. keep here on "the evening edit".

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russian pro? >> that's what it looks like the way he setting this up, his reputation in the justice department here's a guy who gets his man he's building a detailed case and he starting at the bottom because the way that this works he gets somebody, and they basically have to point to somebody about them and then they get to that guy and then he points to somebody about him and will see how high it goes, it's really tough to get your way through all of the verbiage in these documents but there's three issues, number one the clinton campaign inspired with trump's collusion to win the election, the clinton people to get to the fbi and they said to the fbi, there is a collusion between trump and the russians, the fbi took it and they knew it

was probably false but they ran with it and once trump was elected when he was making good on his promise to drain the swamp that's what the justice department got involved and that's when they came after people president trump, myself, they came after me and they basically wanted me too plead guilty to a crime i did not commit or to imply that president trump committed crimes, it was all made up from the very beginning. elizabeth: and the law firm, the hillary campaign hired it he helped funnel democrat money to the anti-trump opposition research, the steele dossier there's a bigger story inside the durham indictment. he's saying the clinton campaign hired computer researchers, the researchers were already working with the pentagon computer research firm arm dirt but to stop foreign attacks on the u.s.

government in these researchers access data in the government powerful executive branch to pick up internet traffic to make the case that trumps business computers were talking to russia's alphabet, fbi debunked it and said hotel marketing spam e-mail and bowler did not touch it. it's the issue of accessing, we don't know if they did this, it seems like the cyber researchers were working with darpa by july 2016 they had this information and gave it to the clinton campaign possibly the perkins qe law firm this is about exploiting and accessing government data in the work to do a political attack on trump. your reaction. >> if this turns out to be true the cyber researchers working

for the product enter project agency one of the most secret groups of the united states government they would require people to have high security clearances, if the contractor had very high security clearances and turning around and abusing the information he was getting while working for the united states government and then turning it over to hillary clinton and her people that's a serious crime and that does not go away, that is not political it may have started politically but that's a real crime of abusing power and taking classified information in turn needed over literally to political opposition. if that's the case that the defense department is in a real problem. we don't know but that's where it goes. elizabeth: the durham indictment has the levels of detail in their and it looks like this may have happened, they had this information by july 2016. john brennan reef president obama and says the hillary

campaign was advised by the foreign policy advisor then jake sullivan, bidens nsa to link trump colluding to russia then i sussman took the information over to the fbi in september 2016, it's coming together as a fact pattern in the timeline, your final work, we gotta go soon. >> if i'm jake sullivan i'm a nervous guy because they screwed up afghanistan and now i may be implicated in a big and different crime i kinda wonder how long that guy will stay in his job. elizabeth: it's great to see you, thank you for joining us. later this hour how much power should the irs get to snoop into your financial transactions everything you make as little as $600 that's what the democrats want to pay for the big spending we have the constitutional roadmap to fight this, two dozen states may take it on nebraska is saying no we have more on the

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elizabeth: supreme court justice brett kavanaugh has tested positive for covid-19 he's recuperating. an experimental pill that will cut in half the risks of hospitalization or death from covid-19, it's an clinical trial the drug is considered the first effective oral treatment let's bring in fox medical contributor doctor marc siegel, this feels like a game changer. >> good to see you this is a game changer it is been around for a while but it's entering later stage trials 775 people studied 50% decreased risk of hospitalization and death, very dramatic even more important if you give it earlier than that

right when you first know that you have it this is where rapid testing comes in if i knew you had it before he got symptoms and i give you this pill it's going to be more effective. this will be a game changer pfizer has another drug slightly different that is very effective as well were gonna see in early 2022, if not before, maybe even next month this will be available. elizabeth: we also have this california is the first day in the country to mandate covid vaccine through k-12 students we have the supreme court justice saying new york city school workers and teachers, she is supporting and saying yes to vaccine mandates for that and we have fox business grady trimble saying that vaccine mandates are important for holiday travel that it could up and holiday travel and diane feinstein is saying you're good and need to

have proof of covid vaccination to get on airplanes to travel by the holidays. >> i have a lot to say about this issue, first of all california is been really hypocritical, they are allowing the test out strategy for teachers, in other words teachers don't necessarily have to get the vaccine, they have a vaccine mandate but they can allow for testing once a week instead, but for kids, there's an elementary school and up, they're not even allowing testing as an option for kids and five -year-olds are not allowed to have the vaccine yet so they're already getting ahead of themselves. the fda finally announced today after i wrote an article in the hill the fda advisory committee is going to review 5 - 11 -year-olds to see if it's safe let's not get the cart before the horse if it comes out i want kids to get it but if you start mandating it you have an uproar on your hands and you can have a policy which favors teachers over kids and puts kids at risk.

elizabeth: doctor, how would you do it. >> i would find a way to talk to people, not talking down to people not with government mandates, i'm okay with business mandates, i think of a business and they want to say for this business to be safe and function properly we want vaccines because vaccines do decrease spread that's been the case in the private sector in the case in hospitals, when you start having big brother say it and superimposing it without compassion and bullying against problematic. elizabeth: i hear what you're saying that's what the supreme court 1905 case said, that power belongs to the states not the federal government we understand that we've had vaccines for smallpox, measles, mumps and other infectious diseases, how is this different? >> i have to tell you that's where i'm okay with the

mandates. if i want to work in my hospital i have to have hepatitis a, hepatitis b, flu which is not even a great vaccine, i to be tested repeatedly every year, kids go to school have to measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis, there's not even measles around that we need the vaccine and i tell you why. in the middle of the pandemic with covid roaring around if there is a lot of the delta variant around, it makes sense for kids to have this vaccine before they go to school but more importantly to be tested before they go to school so they're not bringing covid into the schools. i'm okay working on the local level even the state level not even the federal level that's where we really went into trouble. elizabeth: it's good to see you, thank you so much. i'm going to get you updated on the border crisis, panama and mexico said they were in the white house the criminal cartels control the border. we have more on the mayor of the border town with us last night explaining the impact of the border towns and breaking for

more chaos a new caravan of 60000 potentially heading to the border. brandon arnold from the taxpayers union how much power should the irs get two dozen states plan to fight the biden plan to let the irs snoop on your bank account and any transaction over $600 the constitutional fight on this, we have the roadmap next. so when something happens that could affect your portfolio, you can act quickly. that's decision tech, only from fidelity. your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire i'll shoot you an estimate as soon as i get back to the office. hey, i can help you do that right now.

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>> god bless the people of nebraska raising the legal challenge and the other states that are doing so. at the core is fundamentally unfair even setting aside the constitutional concerns, people shouldn't be snooped upon they should not be investigated for crimes that they did not commit when there's no evidence in suggestion whatsoever that they did anything wrong except earn a paycheck and pay their bills that's why this proposal is absolutely upside down, it's inherently wrong. elizabeth: were also hearing treasuries and auditors in other states that a letter to the president saying don't do this, let's listen to kevin brady on this. watch. >> the irs has always wanted to get more information to close the tax gap, and privately they've always said we think is the farmers and the small businesses that are evading taxes they wanted to figure out how to do that, this is how they do it by capturing all this

information from families, farmers and small businesses, a family making $900 a month would be triggered into the bank surveillance, they are not going after the wealthy and the big corporations they're going after families and farmers and small businesses. elizabeth: 900 and month is not a lot. they're talking about taxing those families making 30000 and up a year that's the joint committee and taxation. he's talking about being dragged into the little guy, what do you say. >> i think that's right if father talking about his taxi people making $400,000 or more for the large corporations that they talk about all the time then why is the threshold at $600, why is it so low they're bringing in money from small businesses because they pointed out they don't like the tax deduction in 2017 as part of the tax reform that benefit small

business and what really concerns me as other programs have also pointed out have high fraud in error rates like the american opportunity that helps families pay for college tuition and it helps the working poor, these are the programs that have high error rates into me i wonder if that's where the crosshairs are focused if they're going after the working poor. elizabeth: the irs has very been hacked somebody leaked the tax returns for the top bracket, 15 individuals and 15 years worth of tax returns that's been going on so it expose people to potential problems inside the agency, you are always terrific thank you for joining us up next household insecurity member ralph norman, panama, mexico saying they warned the white house terminal cartels do control the border, we have more

on the mayor of the border town with us last night explaining the impact of all of this on border towns are now bracing for more chaos, 60000 heading to the border, you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business.

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joining us ralph norman the mexican criminal court trial doing the boarding that's behind the migrant search human trafficking and migrant members of the caravan paying the cartels to get them across, what do you say. >> they really don't know but we know they have been warned to the fact 60000 coming across the border secretary mayorkas, del rio had 25000 include the amount he made the claim that they put him back to haiti in different spots but he now admitted 12000 came back and admitted to america. this is not an invasion that's only way can describe it, his incompetence as planned and it's a sad day for this country. elizabeth: the mayor of texas new the border don maclachlan talk to us about this.

let's take a listen. >> ranch houses are being broken into, the ranch cars are being trashed, and time people are breaking in cars, stealing whatever they could steal if they can steal the car, they'll steal the car, the breaking in houses, stealing food, money, jewelry, anything that they can pawn and all of this is from foot traffic being carried on by the cartel by their clients everybody crossing the border are paying the cartel to come across the border they're not coming across her walking across without paying a toll to the cartel speed when they're not coming across and lesser paying a toll to the cartel. he thinks everyone is paying a toll, is that true. >> yes you don't get by without the cartels and we heard the making half a billion dollars a month that is probably conservative this administration doesn't know who's coming over and they don't care look at the

strain and will put on the towns in the cities all across america as they bus them out and it takes us on the tip of the sphere to get to these people but it's unacceptable and it's gonna put a strain once they get into america to be hard to get them out in the medical cost and everything that goes with it is a threat plus the military cost we have to be right and terrorism 100% of the time as we found out 9/11 they've gotta be right, it's a sad day for america. elizabeth: the justice department announced the dea seized in a historic amount of fentanyl placed fake pills they broke up a mexican criminal drug network here in the u.s. they seized 1.8 million lethal that no pills as oxycontin, percocet, adderall, xanax the chemicals came from china the criminal drug networks are selling these

pills through pipelines in the u.s., social media, the dark web, distribution networks, nearly 1600 pounds of fentanyl enough to kill 700,000, 810 arrested this is bad news what do you say to that, that's prehistoric. >> it is that's with the border patrol agents told us when we went to the border we had them in as latest today and they said that no, cocaine, heroin is killing our youth and we don't know what's coming and the ones that you mentioned today, that she is who they caught we have an open border prior to this administration, you do go through checkpoints and now america is an open sea, no borders, no checkpoints they can get on airplanes without a photo id and it is simply unacceptable, it should not happen be when we haven't heard that they could get on an airplane without a photo id, will look into that were not sure with what you just said, we

will hear you but to your point they're making a lot of money president biden signaled for two years to come and then weekend trumps border policies like remain in mexico, title 42, the border wall, ice enforcement, do you feel when you talk to democrats in the halls of congress and officials of the white house that they understand and they get when you send a signal that the cartels step in. >> i think they get it but they do not care they're basically puppet uc what they got going on now but if it wasn't for the poll numbers dropping i don't think you would hear about this. but they've got to understand or not complete idiots, they just don't care their own reelection means more to them than life themselves but this is the life of our country and for the drugs and the criminal activity in the tsa agent admitted about the photo id, is on their website, you don't have to have it you can about the reasons but this

is a man-made crisis is an invasion and it looks like it's not going to stop. elizabeth: ralph norman thank you for joining us, come back soon. i am elizabeth macdonald you been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that doesn't for us, have a good weekend and thank you for watching and join us again monday night. ♪ ♪ >> hello everyone welcome back to "kudlow" i'm larry kudlow. the plot thickens in the wee hours of this morning speaker nancy pelosi left the capital just after midnight and when asked about the infrastructure bill, she said, we are not trillions apart she said that at 12:01 a.m. this morning and then she said there will be a vote today. okay let's talk about the first up i'm not sure what she's