david: former president donald trump telling fox news in an exclusive interview that he will probably wait until after the 2022 midterms to announce whether he will run again for president. former president going on to say, quote, i think lot of people will be very happy frankly, with the decision. that is it for us tonight. we'll see you back here tomorrow >> president biden is insisting that the supply chain crisis is quote, confusing to americans, claiming that virus related factory closures are to blame. he may be confused but most americans are not and his claims are false, folks but what is the president to do here? his approval rating continues to plummet down to just 38% in the latest poll. now he has to scramble. the infrastructure bill was passed but the massive social spending package the dems wanted to pass with it. that is hang in the balance. joining us tonight congressman

john katko, consumer energy alliance date holt, dr. marty makary, creditcard.com senior industry analyst ted rothman. mission roll call director cole lyle, former top official chad wolf. let's get to the pain at the pump. americans are shelling out more money to fuelp up their cars and trucks. heating your home is expected to cost a lot more. what is the biden administration doing about it. it is studying the possibility of another pipe line shut down which will only make matters worse. the covid vaccine mandates, the battle is heating up with the federal appeals court temporarily blocking the biden administration rules for private employers. the fight is far from over. more lawsuits continue to be filed. the holidays are just around the corner. for many, shopping has begun already. we'll look at a new study that was just released. it talks about how many americans are willing to two into debt this holiday season

and how of people will spend this year as prices rise and supply chain issues impact inventory. the border crisis. the biden administration still looking to give massive payouts to illegal immigrant separated from their families at the border. the president said those reports of $450,000, they were garbage. hear what he is saying about it now. plus florida's governor border officials secretly sent 70 planes of migrants to the sunshine state. i'm jackie deangelis in for liz macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. jackie: good evening everybody. president biden accuses after ran american don't understand the problems. that is the problem. biden says factory related

closures are behind them. americans are feeling supply chain backlog from empty chefs to higher prices. edward lawrence at the white house with more for us. hi, edward. reporter: jackie the administration is trying to solve the problems with the supply chains. at the moment they have an agreement for the port of long beach and los angeles to go to 24/7. they have the last mile, fedex, ups agreeing to increase operations there but the problem still exists. when asked about it the president insinuated the situation is too complex for americans to understand. >> if we were all going out to have lunch together and i said let's ask, whoever is in the next table, no matter how, what restaurant we're in, have them explain the supply chain to us, think they would understand what we're talking about? you can understand why people are upset. whether you have a phd or you're working in a restaurant, it is confusing. reporter: when you look at the data the problem continues to

seep into prices with no end in sight. cpi inflation hit 5.4% in september year-over-year. the price of a shipping container from china to los angeles was under $2,000 on august 19th. today it is about 8500. some of that cost gets passed on to the stuff we by. as for solutions the administration has not taken any direct actions as some call for regulations around trucking to be relaxed. >> we want as many people to be qualified drivers as possible but never at the expense of safety. we'll always look at other steps we can take but let me mention, we've got to just make truck driving a better job. truck drivers, there is reason the turnover is so high and the way they're compensated they're often not compensated for their time. reporter: again more studying of the problem, waiting for the issue to sort itself out. back to you, jackie. jackie: thank you so much for that, edward lawrence. joining us house transportation and infrastructure committee member john cat go.

good even congressman, wonderful to see you. you watched the sound bite of the president. he is talking about americans, essentially they're stupid. they don't understand what they're going on. if you ask the person next to you can't explain the supply chain. my experience is different. i'm not talking about journalists and people in the business community. people know what is going on out there. they know that joe biden is not doing anything about it. >> they sure do. that comment is symptomatic this is larger problem for the administration that they have to make the decisions for the american people and do it for the american people because they're not capable of understanding it. that top-down arrogance is what is going on in this country, it is really a shocking attitude to have as a leader. we have major supply chain issues. i'm head of the republican, republican side of the homeland security committee and we know that the supply chain is a national security threat. it is not just an economic

threat. it's a national security threat. we saw during the pandemic, every american saw during the pandemic how bad it was just to get personal protective equipment and those supply chain issues. it permeates everything we do. going to buy a car now, you know there is a supply chain issue because there is not enough computer chips out there. we're trying to fix that. we understand fully what is going on here and this administration thinks this top down dictating of policy is what we need. we just don't need that right now. >> i want to get to the spending bills in just one moment. first sort of lay out what the issues really are when it comes to the supply chain, they're pretty basic. labor shortages is one problem. we can move containers to ports that have space, for example, in florida, that is one thing would help. less oil supply because of administration policies. more regulations driving up the cost of fuel creating problems. these are some of the issues contributing to the supply chain problem which leads to the inflation, which leads to the higher prices on the shelves.

so then i will pivot to talk about these spending bills, infrastructure paths, we've still pot the other bill, the social spending package the democrats want to push through. that will make all of this worse. they sit there to tell the american public, no, no, you're wrong you must be confused about that too. that will make everything better. >> you're spot on. that is exactly my concern. the infrastructure bill was bipartisan bill came out of -- got subject to a little bit of the political winds in the house but in the end it was a bipartisan package. most powerful republican in washington right now, mitch mcconnell voted along with it and 19 other republicans in the senate. that was a good birpartisan package it will be good for the american people. it is all infrastructure. the monstrosity is the reconciliation bill called build back better. i was talking about earlier with respect to the president biden. they think the government has to do things for you. that that is the essence of that

bill. what is also in the bill which is really frightening substantial tax increases. if you want to talk about something that would affect the supply chain, taxes on individuals and businesses that create jobs. when they can't afford to do business here they go across the pond or overseas. several years ago in 2017 we did tax reform. when we lowered the taxes for businesses they came back. the economy was booming. now they're talking about in addition to everything else you said raising taxes which would further exacerbate the supply chain problem because businesses are going back overseas. >> they sure are and we were trying to get jobs to come back home during the last administration making progress there we're sort of undoing that. what is interesting to me how nancy pelosi chose to go about this. she chose to couple the two packages together, instead of voting on the bipartisan bill first, she should have done it weeks ago, focusing on the human infrastructure which those how fragmented the party is right now, how much pressure there is from the extreme sides, it is

rare that i would agree with tim kaine but i want you to listen to this sound bite. he talks about it on "face the nation," why is was so important to structure the timing a little differently. >> i think congressional democrats blew the timing. we should have passed these bills in early october. if we had, it would have helped terry mcauliffe probably win the governor's race. it would have been good for president biden but we are going to get these bills done. they're great for every zip code in this country and i'm really excited to be working on them. jackie: his overall point they will still keep pushing. what do you think the chances are that human infrastructure bill will pass with a 2 trillion-dollar price tag? >> to reiterate my point again, the arrogance of the democratic leadership is incredible because they got the clock cleaned in virginia and in new jersey it was a huge scare for them. the american people sent a resounding message that they don't want this, this type of governor nance and if you look

at president's polling it is in the toilet, right? that is not because he is not a nice guy. it is just because they don't want what they're selling. we don't want to pick up what they're laying down. so i think he is wrong on that. i think this bill, reconciliation bill is in big trouble, especially now moderates see, moderate democrats get the infrastructure package done, that gives us cover to vote against reconciliation. i wouldn't be shocked to see reconciliation fall by the wayside going forward. jackie: in the last poll 38% approval rating that number has dropped. 46% of people said he is not doing the job they thought he was going to do. john katko, good to see you too. jackie: still to come this hour, the border crisis, the biden administration looking to give massive payouts to illegal immigrants separated from their families at the border. listen to what the president has to say about it now after denying the initial reports of

450,000-dollar payouts. florida's governor says border officials secretly sent 70 planes of migrants to the sunshine state. david holtz about pain at pump. americans are shelling out more money to fuel their cars and trucks and heating their home this winter. what is the administration doing? now they're talking about shutting down another pipeline. we look at the impact of this, how big it could hit your wallet, taking us into the winter. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. a throwback? you got it. ♪ liberty, liberty - liberty, liberty ♪ uh, i'll settle for something i can dance to. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪

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♪. jackie: welcome back, everybody. new reports are coming in that the biden administration is studying the possibility of shutting down yet another pipeline despite rising gas prices and spiking energy bills. ashley webster has more for us on what this decision could mean for your wallet. ashley, not good news here. ashley: it is not, jackie, the biden administration is pushing back, okay we can confirm the study the feasibility replacing so-called 5 pipeline stretches across michigan carrying half a million barrels of crude oil every day from western canada. the administration says this, it is not currently considering shutting down the existing pipeline. that decision has not been made

they say. they are simply looking at possible safer alternatives. here is the administration's response when pressed by fox news's peter doocy earlier today. take a listen. >> why is the administration now considering shutting down the line 5 people line from canada to michigan. >> so peter, that is inaccurate -- >> it is not inaccurate. >> the reporting about us wanting to shut down -- >> i didn't say wanting. is it, studied right now, is the administration studying the impact of shutting down the line 5? >> yes, we are. the army corps of engineers is preparing a environmental impact to look through this. ashley: that study says the administration is on a replacement line. the critics of biden's energy policy quick to hint to any change of a pipeline, it would only drive energy higher especially for propane that many families rely on for heat in the winter. energy secretary, governor

jennifer granholm told msnbc that u.s. oil and gas companies have already plenty of scope to expand oil production claiming that more than 7,000 land leases are not even being drilled. take a listen. >> we need to make sure that we are telling the truth about where the supply needs to come from. there is nothing that the biden administration is doing that is preventing oil and gas companies in the united states from doing additional extraction. ashley: but they have shut down the pipeline and also leases to drill in many other cases. the pipeline in question though is being operated by canadian energy company embridge which is already involved in a legal battle with the state of michigan that tried to shut line 5 down in may. on top of all of this canada triggered a 44-year-old pipeline treaty dispute mechanism which means any changes to the pipeline must be approved by negotiators from both canada and

the u.s. so the biden administration says not so quick. we're not going to close this pipeline down. we haven't made the decision yet. we're merely studying alternatives but boy, did it trigger a hornet's nest. jackie. jackie: it sure did. thank you so much for that breakdown, ashley webster, good to see you. joining us is the president of the consumer energy alliance david holt. good evening to you. that was a great report from ashley, laying it out for us. start with a sound bite from jennifer granholm talking about the biden administration doing nothing to restrict drilling in this country. well here what happens. when you implement all of these regulations and it becomes impossible for oil companies to profitably drill, sure they're going to scale back, so i mean, right or wrong? >> listen, it is exactly the wrong policy. we need to be expanding our energy production here at home. we need to open up the gulf of mexico. we need to look at more development here onshore. pipelines are absolutely

essential to meeting our energy needs. if you look at it from an environmental perspective pipelines are the most environmentally friendly way to deliver energy. every barrel of oil and natural gas produced here at home is among the cleanest barrels in the world. so we can achieve our environmental goals of this administration and meet our energy needs and consumers are already looking at $13.6 billion more for gasoline plus energy this winter alone according to the consumer energy alliance latest study that looked at doe, department of energy statistics. >> right. >> we need to do all of these, affordable, reliable, environmentally responsible energy and shutting down a pipeline, delaying leasing in the united states is not the way to do it. jackie: i will break down how it will impact americans who are looking to spend a significant amount more on electricity, propane, natural gas. in some cases 54% higher than what they spent last year. look at the full screen.

natural gas prices 30% more. electricity, 7% more. heating oil 43% more. that 54% number on propane. part of the problem you're right is with transportation of oil and gas, right? moving it by pipeline is very, very effective and one of the cheaper ways to do it, when you move these products, petroleum products by rail and by truck, not only are releasing more co2 emissions it is more dangerous and costly. that is also increasing the prices we're seeing. >> absolutely right. more trucks on the road is what you're saying, either by pipeline, we have the keystone pipeline which is shut down earlier in the year. now we're considering studying line 5? we need more pipelines, not less. we need fewer trucks on the road, not more. we need to look at our energy environmental policy holistically. to come up with a plan to achieve our goals. we can achieve the goals of net zero. we can achieve environmental

folks we all share but we can do it with fossil energy. this zero-sum game that we have to ban fossil energy or delay fossil energy in order to achieve the environmental goals. we don't agree with that. we think there is middle ground to achieve them both. jackie: considering shutting down the pipeline, considering studying the pipeline, that is semantics. they're looking at it. thinking about it. reviewing it. whatever synonym you want to use is the conversation on the table. final point on gas prices. 3.42 is the national average right now. every state over the 3-dollar mark. some states, $4, five dollars. it is getting crazy when it was $2.11 one year ago. jennifer granholm says we have done nothing to impact, blame it on covid or something else, that is not true, because we're looking at prices heading up to $4 a gallon. when it comes to the raw price per barrel for oil, we're talking 100, possibly higher.

>> yeah. we're at a seven-year high for gasoline prices. so when gasoline prices are high, diesel fuel prices are high. that means commodities are higher. you're paying more for toys. you're paying more for food. you're paying more for life sustaining things that we all need in our daily lives. so it is inflation. it is taking money out of peoples pocketbooks. jackie: absolutely. david holt, good to see you tonight. thank you for explaining that to us. still to come this hour the holidays just around the corner for many. shopping has begun already. we'll look at the new study released that reveals how many americans are actually willing to go into debt for their holiday spending. how of people are willing to spend this year as we watch the prices rise. supply chain issues impact what is even on the shelves to purchase. up next, dr. marty makary on the covid mandate battle. that is heating up. a federal appeals court temporarily blocking the biden administration rules for private employers but the fight is far from over as more lawsuits continue to be filed.

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jackie: the biden administration is facing an onslaught of legal battles because of its sweeping mandate that would require businesses with at least 100 employees to have all staff vaccinated against or tested for covid-19 regularly. the mandate is set to go into effect on january 4th. over the weekend a u.s. federal appeals court issued a stay that throw this is requirement.

the court cited grave statutory and constitutional issues with the rule. even with the legal challenges, the white house said that they are confident and prepared to defend the mandate. for some insight into all of this, let's bring in fox news contributor dr. marty makary, from johns hopkins university. dr. makary, great to see you. i will pause for a moment. we'll play a montage, there was a time a period, when the administration said it wasn't for mandates at all. >> mandatory? >> no, i don't think it should be mandatory. i wouldn't demand it would be mandatory but i would do everything in my power because i don't think masks have to be mandatory nationwide. >> that is not the role of the federal government. that is the real of institutions, private sector entities others may take. >> here's the thing, we cannot require someone to be vaccinated. that is just not what we can do. it is a matter of privacy to know who is or who isn't.

>> you don't want to mandate and try to force anyone to take a vaccine. we've never done that. you can mandate the certain groups of people like health workers but for the general population you can't but we don't want to be mandating from the federal government to the general population. it would be unenforceable and not appropriate. jackie: all right. dr. makary, i know you will not comment on that. i couldn't help to play the sound bites to remind everybody what they're saying. we're into the pandemic. more people are vaccinated. there are more treatments on covid. they're flip-flopping so they're saying we need vaccine mandates. i am trying to understand where the logic is coming from? >> nice to see you, jackie. this represented a broken promise. when we had mandates were promised we would never move to it hurts credibility and public trust. people are hungry for honesty. all we needed for the mandates was a little bit flexibility, accounting for natural immunity

and allowing for exemptions we would be in a much better place. we wouldn't have higher response times for 911 calls, all these people walking off the job. instead the administration in response to this request to be a little flexible with the mandate they have dug in. they have gone hard and they're very rigid right now. final point is, they should figure the calculus of these new drugs, when they cut covid deaths to zero. that does change the outlook, that should have an impact on the mandate? jackie: i think the advances we've made have been a game-changer. at a certain point you have to step back to reexamine the situation. the federal appeals court says it doesn't seem appropriate. we'll put a stay on this right now. we'll not allow the mandate to move forward. there will be a lot of back and forth until they come to a final decision. that will certainly prolong it for a while. >> here is what i would tell the biden administration, we've got 98.2% of seniors vaccinated. we've got 90% of people over 50

vaccinated. the risk of covid-19 is not equally distributed in the population. look at professional athletes. we're having all this debate about professional athletes. has a professional athlete in any sport in any country died of covid? no. peel people have a different risk level. we have not accounted for that but instead we have a blanket vaccine policy. jackie: you penned a op-ed in the journal with dr. nicole saphier, should you vaccinate your five-year-old? you made the case on both sides, weighed out the risks, to answer the question simply, should we, doctor? >> here is the bottom line with vaccinating young kids. if the kid has a comorbidity, they have not had covid in the past, yes, those are the kids who have died. remember it has been about 94 out of 28 million. so the risk is very low either way. if a kid had natural immunity, no. by the way the cdc said it was 42% of kids back in june.

it is north of 50% of kids today. that is a lot of kids with natural immunity. so it is small sliver of kids who have no immunity and are not, don't have comorbidities. that is healthy. it is an individual choice. we don't have good data to guide whether or not those benefit outweigh the risk for boys. it is probably even. i myself would never recommend a second vaccine dose in that population given the little data we have. jackie: dr. makary you and i gone back and forth about this one particular issue a lot, natural immunity how it adds to the population that essentially has been immunized if you want to use that word overall. at what point do we get to the point we're living with covid, we understand what the perils are, people at risk-taking care of themselves and we move on with our lives? when does that happen? >> i think people are eager for that day. for some folks it will never come. some people want the pandemic to go forever. if you look at the south, southeast united states right

now, we're talking numbers of covid of 1 to 5 her 100,000. most of cases are asymptomatic or mild. they should get back to normal life. we should have select live masking policy for those in viral seasons with influenza comes around. we don't want people in public areas coughing and hacking. they can wear a mask. in terms of the restrictions we have, most of the country is there right now. we have to let the infection burn through the northeast population right now before we get back to normal but we're very close to those areas as well. jackie: dr. makary, nice to sue. your insight is always valuable thank you. >> thank you. jackie: the biden administration still looking to give massive payouts from illegal immigrants separated from their families at the border. here is what the president is saying about it now after denying the initial reports of 450,000-dollar payouts. he called them garbage. florida's governor says a border

official secretly sent 70 planes of migrants to the sunshine state. someone has to pay for that. up next, ted rothman of creditcard.com. he is talking about the holidays. they are around the corner. for many shopping has begun. we'll look at how many americans are planning or willing to go into debt on holiday spending. how of people are spending this year at all as prices are rising and supply chain impact what is is available to purchase. keep it here on "the evening edit".

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i was optimistic during the pandemic americans are saving more. four out of 10 is not the majority but the fact folks are willing to go into debt this season when prices are higher it starts to make me nervous. >> i agree. this may end up being a turning point. we've seen so far credit card debt is way down from q4 of 2019 to the middle of this year, total credit card debt fell 15% according to the new york fed. we will start to see it drift back upwards. we have seen it in past recessions and aftermath. this holiday season may be the perfect storm for debt. we have the supply chain disruptions. we have inflation running at the highest in three decade according to one key measure that the federal reserve looks at. things are costing more. there is this pent-up demand. i think a lot of stimulus has waned at this point. i do think credit card balances will start ticking back up.

jackie: your report says, 76% of people celebrating the holidays will look to cut back on spending by clipping coupons or limiting sales, or people they will buy gifts for. all those things sound like good ideas. i won't lie i will clip a coupon or two if i can save a few bucks. >> a good decision for consumers. most people will make purchases online this year. i definitely think it is important to start shopping early. have a good budget. you don't want the holiday debt hangover. the average credit card charges over 16%. jackie: yeah. >> if you have credit card debt, half of americans do, look at 0% balance transfer card as well. jackie: that is great advice. credit cart debt traps people and logses them so they can't move forward with their lives. i seen it happen many times. some people are shopping already. they're worried they will not

get goods they need to get. i do that. if i see something, i grab it right now because i worry in six weeks it won't be there. >> everybody is panicking about the supply chain disruptions and shortages. we're feeling them the most in certain categories. electronics would be one that comes top of mind for the holidays. it is hard to get a playstation five right now or the latest xbox. certain cell phones are in short supply. especially for electronics. hot toys and clothing items makes sense to start early. deals have already starting. retailers are unveiling black friday prices. they started in october. i don't think things will get better f they sell out i think it will be hard to restock before the holidays. i think starting now is a good idea. jackie: interesting that the parents will spend $276 for average child under 18, men

spending 55% more for way or significant other. >> that is big spending men out there. the average gift for their spouse is $308. women said 199. yeah, i thought that was interesting. the point is though these costs can definitely snowball. you think about how many people you're buying for. thank fully it seems like holiday travel and entertaining are much more back in play this year than they were last year so i think it is great we're making progress so we can do these things but we also need to be mindful of the cost especially with inflation running so hot, i really think more than many years i think it is a good year to start early, make a budget. stick to it. jackie: this is a tougher year than we've seen in a long time. ted rothman, thanks very much. great tips, great advice. >> thank you. jackie: still to come this hour the border crisis, the biden administration still looking giving massive payouts to illegal immigrants separated from their families at the border. president is saying something different about it now after he do i intoing the initial reports

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>> absolutely. so mission roll call is an organization dedicated to one thing, unifying the voice of american veterans across the united states. traditional veteran service organizations require veterans sometimes go through layers of bureaucracy at the local, state and national level. we want to speak directly to the veterans. every veteran has an individual unique story. we want to listen the stories, help understand veteran issues nationally better. so we can take the stories to national policymakers to affect positive national change for veterans in the united states. jackie: i'm sorry to interrupt you. i want to get to this. this is a sad stat. i want you to sort of walk me through what is being done about this specifically. according to the department of veterans affairs there were over 95,000 veteran suicide deaths between 2005 and 2019. i don't think people realize the magnitude or scale of that number. with the number of veteran suicides exceeding 6,000 per year during this time.

how are you guys working to bring that number down? >> well it is a great question. first and foremost our number one priority is stopping the veteran suicide epidemic. our second priority is insuring timely access to effective care to include mental health care. we have access to a team of caseworkers for veterans in crisis or veterans in need of general help that we can refer them to. we encourage veterans to utilize the veterans crisis line and the vets in crisis line if they are in fact in crisis. but more so than that, we take again all of these stories, these unfortunate stories. we published a video not too long ago, leslie main, a white star mother who lost her son in 2009. we tell the stories to policy-makers to make it real. jackie, less than 1% of the eligible population in the united states serves on active duty at any one time and of that

1%, 80% of those have an immediate family member that served. so military service is becoming kind of a family business. the american public is becoming more and more disconnected and detached from the issues that these veterans are dealing with. let's be clear, the mental health issues that veterans deal with as a result of their service in the military, it is not weakness. it is just a sign of them being human. jackie: oh, absolutely. i was not implying in any way that was the case. i mean it is very difficult to endure the challenges that they face when they're overseas and fighting for this country. i can't even imagine it. you certainly, sir, are doing a lot. but i want to ask you, do you feel the white house is doing enough? >> well you know i think they could definitely do more but i think that you know, suicide, veteran suicide is a community problem. it is a, it is a national problem right? but that being said, you know, the secretary of the va earliert

for the va, for this upcoming year, suicide prevention was on a list of one through i forget what it ended at. it was 4-b. we definitely agree that the va needs to make suicide prevention the number one priority because this is an urgent problem. the veterans that are dealing with these issues don't have the time to wait. you know, the after the withdrawal in afghanistan, the veteran crisis line saw increase of 7% in the same time period from last year of calls into the veteran crisis line. jackie: that is significant. >> yeah. it was above -- yeah the shocking statistic, it was above 90% for the text and chat function which is the director of the veteran crisis line has come out and said the younger generation of veterans, i.e., the global war on terror veteran are ones more likely to utilize

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you guys keep sending that garbage out, yeah but it's not true. >> you said last week the report about migrant families of the border getting payments was garbage. >> i didn't say that. you coming across the border whether legal or illegal you lost your child, you lost your child, gone. you deserve some kind of compensation no matter what the circumstance. >> the president angrily depending the plan of his department of justice jesuit award hundreds of thousands of dollars to families separated trying to illegal entry united states. he originally called the reports garbage. he sought when peter ducey brought it to his attention past

week. joining us now, dhs secretary and heritage foundation visiting fellow, chad wolf. wonderful to see you. first of all, department of justice considers the payments from at the president problem garbage, we can't get to the bottom of what a never would become a full 50000 but anything about range from anything more than a cold start family would get seems ludicrous by anybody's standards under the circumstances. >> anything at all is ludicrous. these individuals broke u.s. law coming across the border illegally. the idea we are now going to reward them with monetary compensations, it's not what the justice department should be doing. they should be going into court, these are called frivolous lawsuits. the department of homeland security already brought parents back from central america or mexico or other parts of the world back to the united states and have reunited them with their child most cases and then

they parole here in the united states to remain here in the united states so what the aclu is asking the federal government to do is not only bring the individuals back to the country, we come here in the country even though they have no legal right to be here but on top of that, pay them this fee so it's outrageous and the justice department needs to fight this in court instead of talking about settling this import. >> the fee would be for a person from a half families are pretty close to a million dollars if it was for that $59 range. jen psaki is continuing to recover from covid but her press secretary was answering questions in the briefing room today with peter ducey and he asked about this. she referred to the justice department and she said deputy press secretary that this was to write the wrong. >> again, they continue with the

lines whether that line product press secretary or you should -- you showed a clip of children being rocked, there are no children. this is just rhetoric from the other side we continue to care because they have no plan to stop the immigration crisis of the border. it just rhetoric only, the children have been located for extended period of time. again, all of these parents were given the choice taking the child back to the home country with them many chose to leave them here in the united states we are going above and beyond trying to pull you back here to the united states so i don't know at the white house press operation understands what they are talking about. unfortunately, neither does the president democrats to issues you raise. let me ask you about this because governor desantis is claiming border officials secretly 70 planes of migrants full of migrants to florida. we have reports here in new york

the counties are being bombarded by migrants sent here as well flooding fiscal system. this is happening, people wanted to say it wasn't and it wasn't a fly fight/flight secret operation but it real and they are spreading out across the country. >> of course it's real. this is the reality of catch and release reality of allowing hundreds of thousands of folks coming across the border to remain here in the country while they await for immigration court proceedings, it's exactly what we resolved in 2,192,020 and remain in mexico program is about she wouldn't overload communities like we are doing in new york and florida and across the country. they have not planned for this and get the federal government continues to offload migrants whether they are minors or families and the communities they wash their hands of it and then it's individual communities have to deal with the after effects. >> perpetuating the problem and there are so many people who

will tell you, i believe in immigration and illegal immigration in this country but i don't believe in what this administration is allowing and as a taxpayer, i don't want to pay for either. great to see you. all right, i'm in for elizabeth mcdonald, you're watching the evening at on foxbusiness. thanks for watching. have a good night. ♪♪ kennedy: you that your balls we have a case of malaise. president biden's approval rating sinking faster than the titanic, the wreck. the owner of the kansas they realized americans think their policies kind of suck? for further proof 2022 it's going to be a bloodbath for democrats. they be choked has only been in office ten short months but he's squandered any goodwill he had with voters.