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want to be. how many for terrorists? liz: thank you for joining us, merry christmas and thank you for your service to our country. i'm elizabeth mcdonald, merry christmas to you all. you have been watching the evening edit on foxbusiness, we hope you have a good evening and join us again tomorrow night. ♪♪ >> president biden's speech on public agent like a bottle of milk in the sun, he claimed yesterday his administration did not see omicron coming but they had almost a year to plan for this. how do they botch it so badly? good evening, i am guy benson in for kennedy. the president has long claimed the administration is all over the covid piece, like flies in a barbecue but he also claims omicron came completely out of left field. watch. >> covid is spreading so
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rapidly, it just happened almost overnight in the last month. [laughter] but the alarm bell went off, i don't think anybody anticipated this would be as rapidly spreading as it did. liz: >> here's the thing though, is not true. his own cdc director says so. >> we anticipated this, this is what we have in preparing for, there are doubling times of the virus and other countries that have had the virus before us in the one and a half to three day range so this is what we anticipated. ben: now we have americans coast-to-coast especially in major cities waiting among plans for testing days before christmas so what to make of all of this? what comes next? let's get straight to the party panel tonight, starting with the host of the jason ranger -- there he is. former state department fox news
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conservator, marie and her christmas read and anthony fisher. jason, you heard the back to back soundbites president saint no one anticipated this and defend his cdc director saying we did anticipate this, we've been planning for it, not great. >> they are just totally inconsistent in the messaging and leads people to question whether or not they have this under control and it feels like they are simply not pivoting with the new information we are learning about the omicron virus in particular. all studies so far it could shift change but so far, it indicates relatively mild illness, slightly elevated as a cold and we know it's highly transmissible but not leading to numbers of deaths, we are not seen a huge increase in hospitalizations across the country, we are seeing some, we expect some but you have to make sure you keep up with the data and constantly tell the american
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people were actually says and why it matters, we're just not getting that from the biden administration. ben: marie, we've seen experts coming out saying some of the steps announced yesterday by the president are welcomed but probably a bit too little, too late. on the messaging front, there are some challenges and the policy side, what you make of this? >> obviously no one wanted this to happen right before christmas, this is a mess and walkways, i think president biden announced yesterday was good, he's taking the right steps and i do think doctor fauci and rochelle walensky and the experts, medical experts in the white house and the country have been preparing for this but i agree rapid test ramping up production is coming a little late, people feel it's coming too late. experts have been wanting this for almost two years so i'm glad
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it's coming now but a lot of people are still waiting in lines. part of it is urgency, we know we will keep seeing variance, we don't know when they will pop up but we know they are going to keep happening and i wish yesterday he talked a little more not just about the importance of vaccines but upgrading your masks, wearing better masks, we know it's necessary. pills and treatments coming online that are promising, we have to look at this holistically, vaccines are necessary but not awake to protect ourselves. ben: i think that's exactly right and on testing, this is where i start getting frustrated because a lot of this is beyond human control, you can't blame it on any politician for that donald trump or joe biden or randy santos or whoever you want to pin something on, a lot of it is out of their control, some things are within the government's control and one testing capacity.
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i've had dr. after doctor on my radio show for a year saying we need a lot more a rush on those slots and it feels like how are we not ready for this especially at this stage of the pandemic? i think it's a fair critique of the administration with the guy who's leading campaigning and one brinkley pricing i'm going to shut down the bars, obviously it does not feel that way. >> i think that is correct, president biden promised a return to competency among other things after the trump administration and is a lot of
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failures on that regard. the vaccine rollout originally by the federal government wasn't fantastic, it was left to the states and took a while to catch up. boosters could have been approved weeks, even months ago, prospect of a third shot was being discussed and fda panels were dragging their feet, it could have been rolled out quicker. rapid tests, at-home test, greater capacity for testing highly anticipated. in germany you can get an at-home test for 3-year-old and they've had just as many spikes and shutdowns as we have. ben: it's much more expensive here and more scarce as part of the problem. there is another element to this problem, one thing we've learned is sometimes the media too often i would argue, hurts more than it helps instead of clear analysis that actually falls the signs, we get hysteria, fear mongering. by most accounts, omicron is significantly milder than past variance but you might not know any of that if you watch nbc nightly news. listen to the way lester holt
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asks a question, apparently to get an answer he wants. >> as a health professional, someone committed to protecting health of the america people, would you recommend we self lockdown, begin to change our lifestyle and dial back on all fronts? >> self lockdown. the gas answer was use common sense but according to hysterics out there, we have to rewind everything back to march 2020 and use the same lay book. as if nothing has changed. we should be safe, smart, yes the common sense but it december 2021, we know the risks and we have a lot more weapons to fight this right now. whether panic ever end? anthony, i kind of want to make it personal a little bit to put you on the spot, i didn't tell you you are going to do this but if you are someone who agrees
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let's be personally responsible for our decisions, but be smart and use common sense, what does that mean to you at this stage of the pandemic? >> it's situational. i'm in new york city clear omicron is everywhere from a people who have been boosted in the last month or getting it, schools, some schools have shut down including my own kids. i think there is a space for that maybe a couple of weeks as everyone is about to congregate and people are traveling but personally i think by the second we thought january unless there, hospitals are overrun, who got to get back to at least where we were two weeks ago if not more, at a certain time covid will be endemic, we are all going to get it, even those who are multiply vaccinated. ben: i think we are all probably going to get this. i've met your parents, you love your parents very much, us making decisions at our age what we want to do and risks we want to take, that calculus makeshift
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if you are going to be with a labyrinth at the holidays who might be in a higher risk category, how are you muddling through this this year? >> that's right and because i've seen my parents for christmas, i've been really careful i'm testing quite a bit when i'm able too and . ben: how do you get them? i'm jealous. [laughter] >> these huge case numbers are shocking, they are shocking to see, we are breaking records every day and it's important to put into context what it means because we haven't seen a spike in death. i've been careful the whole pandemic, i've only even endorse a couple of times, i know that's shocking. my husband and i are supposed to fly and we are debating whether or not to do that next week. airports feel a little murky and i think the challenge is in a lot of parts of the country, people aren't being safe, we don't see widespread masking or people taking it as seriously as
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they should on something that's killed 800,000 americans so i've been cautious, as i said i'm going to wear a mask every time i fly the rest of my life and i think i was on with you and you are like no way. it's very personal, i think your question indicates it's very personal what people are comfortable with. ben: and i don't think i should take care and criticize you make fun of your decisions were making in your life, i also think when it comes to the government mandating things, it's a different debate. jason, the media piece of this, cases have exploded in a lot of places, omicron is super contagious we know that but as marie alluded to, hospitalizations have not come anywhere near their previous spikes even if south africa, death numbers are way down, these are good signs, it's a mild variant think god.
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i wonder, are the crucial pieces of information crowded out by the headlines and breaking news graphics about case numbers? >> right now we need to look at different ways to look at the seriousness of covid, it shouldn't just be about case numbers. your call early on when covid just hit we were focused on something that matter, we didn't want to overrun hospitals and we didn't want that's and then we started to shift into cases, that doesn't make sense. if media was covering the amount of people who got the flu or a cold pre-pandemic, people would be freaking out and unfortunately in some cases, they are purposely freaking people out because it's going to get them? and heirs and ice. ben: metrics matters. >> they are changing normal behaviors of how we might respond so if you tell me the omicron variant is extremely mild at the end of the day in
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all of the studies show that, there is a study today assess if you're vaccinated and get omicron, you have a super immunity. that's one study and you need to see more but if we get back on with our lives, i think we have to have a bigger conversation about natural immunity. ben: it's common sense and normalcy and what normalcy looks like and we are sitting here playing doctor on tv, panel, stick around because i want to get to a doctor, who will get to her right now, there is good news to report tonight, fda approved pfizer's antiviral pill to treat covid, and emergency authorization they've done so far, we help for full authorization if the date of bears that out plus on a separate track but related, the u.s. army reports that if scientists developed a vaccine that can reportedly fight the covid variance, omicron, delta
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and future strains that haven't been discovered yet, therapy and earthquake if true, is it too good to be true? bring us now, fox news medical contributor and author of panic attack doctor nicole safire, great to see you again, thanks for being here. >> happy to be with you. ben: the pfizer pill and emergency authorization, your thoughts on that what is the significance there? >> big news out of the fda today, an oral medication given on an outpatient basis received emergency use authorization, long-awaited, the fda has had the data on this for almost a month now and people have been calling for them to expedite this but it finally came today and this is great news in the sense that it's a massive tool for our arsenal to get us through this pandemic, it's going to help us get the virus to where it is and endemic and
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you heard that from your panel. that means the virus is with us to say, zero covid is not realistic anymore, we have vaccines and boosters but we will still have breakthrough infections as we continue to see that and what does the medication give us? a tool to keep the high-risk and those out of the hospital. clinical trials about 2200 people demonstrated 89% ability to reduce hospitalization and death in high-risk individuals. when it was given to those of low risk individuals, still 70% ability to reduce hospitalization, amazing news. ben: what about this military development where they think they got perhaps a vaccine that works for all the variance including teacher once from a how is that possible and what you make of that? >> i was reading through today and there is new technology, is not mrna or the viruses we've seen with other vaccines so using nanoparticles attached, a
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normal protein that circulates through the blood, safe put different spike proteins on various coronavirus and the theory is it's going to emit a universal response and hopefully when you have future variance or even past variance and strains the body can recognize that not just immune response but more long-term robust innate and adaptive immune response to the vaccine. maybe it's going to help decrease common cold we deal with every winter and summer, i don't know. it's interesting and i'm looking forward to hearing more. ben: is sounds exciting, half of what you said right over my head but for positive sounding things so i'm excited about that, because you seem excited. i believe we have your tweet you put up yesterday, your christmas list as a doctor on covid, all i
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want for christmas is this, your version of being mariah carey, give us more number one or two in the few moments we have left together, people can see bullet points, one of the most important in your mind, of those? >> big thing is to start natural immunity as a form of protection, it's widely overlooked and it causes skepticism and it's a form of protection continue to target high-risk when it comes to boosters from a encourage the high-risk not vaccinated to get vaccinated remove cough masks from our children and get away from lengthy quarantines and isolation and people who have been exposed and infected with covid. we have data that shows they transmit shorter times than originally before so when you see cap people back to work because 8% of nypd were out yesterday because of isolations and pointing and it's not just nypd, it's all over.
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we need the whole shortage is government made because of these recommendations and mandates. ben: you are saying so many things, scribbling down this list as fast as possible. follow you on twitter, it's all fair. great to see you, thank you. >> thanks for having me. ben: present biden extended the freeze on student loan payments again but the economy is so strong, why can't americans make those payments? is reality as rosy as the white house claims? scott martin is here to set the record straight straight ahead. ♪♪
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president biden today announcing extended pause on federal loan payments until may of 22. claiming the covid pandemic is the cause. our decision concerning the administration is like promoting the idea inflation and supply chain concerns are blown out of proportion and despite multiple job openings all over the country a new poll shows 67% of americans believe economic conditions are getting worse. number not seen since the beginning of the pandemic so what is the true state of our economy? here to discuss, fox news ventriloquist scott martin is
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phil wealth management. we need to talk about this sweater, was this you purchased or lost that or what happened? basically everything to be honest, my mom dresses me because i knew that kind of help and she picked it so that is it but it's a mixture from an ugly sweater, is it even a sweater? but it's on tonight. ben: it appears to be a sweater i will leave it to others to decide whether it is ugly. let's talk about something many people believe is ugly, the economy, how is that for transition? talking points have come down and they say we are better off as a country on all of these tricks and we were a year ago, clearly public opinion does not agree, why? >> the economy is ugly, maybe that will sweep the you're here
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because the more you drink, the better the economy looks and that's not a good thing because if you look at the data since we've had resurgence in the omicron. or newest variant omicron or follow-up from the resurgence we had when we were growing double digits of gdp and now get back to single digits and they are creating couple hundred dollars a month in wage growth is slowing and inflation growing, a lot of folks are feeling what we all do, inflation is way higher than people's wage growth so you look at how much people are making versus how much they can spend and how it affects summer confidence, its way outpacing we are taking home so we are losing the gap against what things are costing and when you have the stock market as volatile as it is from the market is up or down a couple of percent, up ten down 15 from it's a tough environment to operate at the end of the year here.
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ben: you outlined a lot of reasons for pessimism, that's shared by most americans obviously based on the data, what is one or two points on optimism, not pessimism as you look forward to 2022? >> the fact that there is probably going to be as you talked about with your panel, maybe less of a devastating impact from the latest variance and the fact that the problem the psychological damage i think the lockdowns and regulations and curtailing of a lot of business activity, the damage is pretty high so the fact that we are going to be further away when we get past this latest deal with omicron god willing as we will have hopefully a chance to get this psychological part of us rebuilt and i think it will take some time but once we realize we can't win against the variant and we can't win against the virus and hopefully people will be able to make their own choice as far as their health, if you want to get a vaccine or not, and find.
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if people don't want to, that's fine but the fact that the government feels they need to take care of everybody, hopefully allows people to make their own decisions and feel comfortable going out into the world and doing what they want as far as economic activity. ben: you have the president as i mentioned at the top with this extension on the moratorium, loan payments, at some time you can't keep using covid and emergency as an excuse and the term moral hazard comes to mind, a policy we will be watching. great to see you and your sweater. >> thank you. ben: chicago mayor once again proving she's not quite sure how to stop crime in that city. wait until you hear what happened to santa when he stopped in the windy city. it's depressing and it next. ♪♪
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breaking news, the u.s. supreme court announcing they will take two separate cases, challenging the biden administration's vaccine mandates, the arguments will take place early january and fox will be all over those departments as they play out. no one can escape crime in chicago. not even santa. saturday in chicago, a man dressed as santa was spreading holiday cheer on the street corner when he was assaulted by a group of masked men. police have not brought any of his attackers to justice get. the mayor of that city blamed the city's crime surge on judges implement think they are reforms from her own party. >> we are in a crisis and state law explicitly requires judges to consider community safety and making individualized decisions. the cumulative effect of having almost 2300 dangerous offenders
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on the street reached the tip many neighborhoods are up for grabs now asking for help is after turning down help from the patient on crimes to start thinking about walking back easy on crime policy or is this just more empty talk for politics? bring back the panel, jason, marie, anthony fisher and jason, if we follow the timeline here in chicago, she said no, hell no and their administration on crime cuts and proposed budget cuts from the chicago help from the feds in washington, is she hoping people won't notice her role in this? >> i'm sure she does hope that because she's in part to blame. you can draw direct line for
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policy that went light on crime to the crime surge you are seeing not just in chicago but across the country and the reason they happen in these highly democrat run areas because it's the same policy from one thing after another after another instead of feeding 20 people in jail for much with put them into restorative justice programs thinking again weber gang bangor is going to do fingerprinting to get back on the right track and set up punishing them and teaching them for this kind of behavior will not be tolerated and when you tolerate it and don't punish this behavior, it continues to happen more and more even santa becomes a victim. ben: not just santa, this is pretty shocking because is a joke about people getting mugged by reality from we are now seen democratic lawmakers the last 24 hours getting carjacked, there
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was a report last night but the majority leader of the senate in illinois was carjacked at gunpoint, she's fine, thank god along with her husband, that is frightening and a member of congress, democrat bill w whose project this afternoon, no matter who you want to be pointing fingers at, there's obviously a problem and it's hitting pump for members of the political ruling class. >> i think it's concerning no matter where. we've seen huge spikes and violent crime in d.c. as well and i think what's challenging his cities across the country they've had spikes in crime including cities where they increase police funding so it's not one-to-one correlation or doesn't appears to be because according police funding is the only thing that led to this so we need more about what is causing that but president biden
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i believe deeply thinks it's a problem, he's talked about, he's proposing funding for police and has taken steps to help cities from the federal government. joe biden knows it's both a crime problem in a political problem. as do the leaders in congress so while there's outspoken progressive folks in the party who may not think it's a problem, i think the democratic leadership does colleagues in the city and i think they thought that for a while and biden they talk about this more in the new year, we'll see. ben: it's pretty low to mugged and assault santa. to me, that's the only thing from a qc it may be in sporting events in philadelphia, no one else, outrageous. >> i was going to say, outside of an eagles game this probably shouldn't be the kind of thing in civilized society but it's a bummer and not just a black and white issue of increasing
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funding or decreasing funding for police mama a big part of the problem is particularly new york spike in murder rates, police not going into heavily violent crime areas where there is reciprocal shootings, gang a. ben: when they feel not supported by leadership, that contribute to the danger. on that note, people are chicago on the only ones having a rough year end a new survey, 53% of americans say a majority of americans say it's the worst year of their lives so far. 70% said they expect next year 22 to be better so i want to go around the horn here and make an
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argument to me like specifically why was 2020 worse or 2021 worse? >> 2020 for me was way worse because my kids were out of school for the entire year, 2021 was on the 12th after year. 2020 i didn't go to concerts or ballgames or any trips, gun all that in 2021 so there is improvement in 2021 at least in my life. ben: majority of americans say 2021 was the worst in their whole lives, do you agree or not? >> i don't agree but i think some people, ups and downs and uncertainty was harder than knowing, it was july we thought we could do whatever we wanted if we were vaccinated but 2021 was unbalanced, vaccines were this here article, i got to see my parents more, we got our first house this year, my husband and i did so 2021 was
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better. ben: jason, is it three for three? 2021 was better? >> no, 2021 was definitely worse. 2021 -- we understood a lot of uncertainty, a brand-new bias we've never seen before and everyone kind of expected there were going to be lockdowns and it would be rough but then we were told 2021 we go back to normal if we get the vaccine, take off your mask only thing to be told put your mask on and you will have to get more vaccines and by the way, we are going to return to a place where we were in 2020, the light at the end of the tunnel and all of a sudden. ben: a lot of people died this year. i am with you jason, 2021 was worse because 2020 were in this together, what is happening? once in a generation but next year will be better and next year arrived, now this year and a lot of the expectations were not met and that was hard for a
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lot of people to process unless you are summer that's our free state and you got your shots and your natural immunity and moved on, just as a country our psyche was tested again and that was tough consecutive years. very good stuff, you think 22, will it be better? >> if my i issue clears up and yes, if it doesn't, i'm going to be a downer the rest of the year. i hadn't even noticed until you pointed it out, onward to be optimistic. ben: it's so gross. >> thank you for sharing. marie, are you feeling more optimistic into 2022? >> i am. part of it is the way we can treat coronavirus, drugs and it's promising. >> the arsenal is growing. panel, great to see you. merry christmas, appreciate it.
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jason, marie, anthony. president biden says he thinks he's got a plan to get joe manchin back to the bargaining table but has that ship already sailed? katie pavlich here in ways in next. ♪♪
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is the blowback better plan truly dead and buried? according to the white house, no why exactly do they believe this multitrillion dollar turkey can be revisited? west virginia democrat joe manchin is most visible obstacle in the way of the piece. the problem is, it's insanely expensive and while democrats claim is fully paid for, many economists say that's not true. they want it could stop rebounding economy moose tracks.
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the questions where the money would go. the president seems to think he can get manchin back and but why would he do that? he's holding royal flush, she president has a pair of trees and rocky his legacy evaporate in real time. he with me tonight, on half.com editor and fox news promoter, fantastic katie pavlich, great is the. over the last couple of days when it comes to the white house and the messaging on manchin, sapphic without the nasty statement going after his integrity basically calling him a liar sunday. if they say no, don't worry about that, we are going to mend fences and get something done in the new year and the president comes out yesterday, takes a few questions and completely invent a quote basically saying manchin admitted to being a liar even
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though he did not in the white house had to clarify that's not what he said within a few hours, mopping up with the president did, it keystone cop stuff. >> it's a disaster so the white house continues to say joe biden says i'm going to get something done with my friend, joe manchin. manchin made it clear he will not vote for to trillion dollar bill that will make everything them economy worse. joe manchin has a habit of saying things and coming back around to negotiations, he might not vote for to trillion dollar bill, maybe you can come back and vote for something smaller but he did say on go back better specifically he's done negotiating, he's tired of and made the statement after saying white house did things completely you redeemable, unforgivable in terms of their behavior, the white house is being careful not revealing which staffers he's repairing to but the white house on one hand
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says we want to bring joe manchin back to the table and on the other hand they are saying we don't regret negotiating with him, whatever tactics they were using calling him a liar and they continue to beat him to the ground to try to pull him voting for the bill lying about the fact that it's paid for so we'll see what happens in the new year but the to trillion dollar bill is dead and one last thing, joe manchin is a punching bag right now but the white house is using him to do that but he's not the only democrat in the senate who had a problem with this and now chuck schumer to say i'm going to hold a vote on it anyway, okay, i'm sure republicans would love for you to hold it, democrats to walk the plank in the election-year we want my next question was on that exact. closer to 5 trillion when you look at the real numbers and that's what manchin does courtesy of the democrats being
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mad about that. schumer is this peak, angry left-wing twitter was angry and he said screw it, let's have a vote to put everyone on the record like it's something to make manchin shaken his boots, the people happiest about that i saw were republicans, what do a vote, a failed vote on the 5 trillion-dollar think get everyone on the record. >> joe manchin knows what his voters want, he knows trump voters, he's a democrat in a very red state. schumer is putting other democrat who don't have that reliability factor in west virginia on the chopping block so kelly in arizona up for reelection, nevada is up for grabs suffer him to do that, new hampshire is up for grabs so the idea chuck schumer is going to placate to the far left of the party instead of telling saw in the house things work differently in the senate and maybe sit down with joe biden insane need to pivot in terms of
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your economic plan, they are tripling, quadrupling down on attacking joe manchin so it will be interesting to see if joe biden is a lame-duck going into the midterms or if they continue to push this unpopular agenda before people go to the polls. ben: i think it was a we are flexed from schumer and i think he might wake up christmas morning or the day after saying you consider because it doesn't make any sense for them politically great to see you, thank you. tropical storm is next. ♪♪
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the head coach of the new york jets positive for covid-19 making him the first to catch anything all year. the team is a capitol crime. topic one, scientists discovered you're perfectly preserved embryo inside fossilized dorner's dinosaur eggs, it's widely considered one of the main since little guy, it's a bear upon which he has birdlike features an estimated 60 -- 70
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million years old was democrats call it presidential material scientists are studying embryos has to they make themselves comfortable inside tiny eggs. it will help new yorkers live inside their apartments. this story is just a part of jurassic park so far sweet dreams on that. topic two. mcdonald added exercise bikes to some of its restaurants in china so now when you feel the burn at mcdonald's, it's not just in your heart. let's go to the tape, this is why they call it fast food. >> congratulations china, you discovered a way to get a new demographic to exercise and if this guy keeps it up, one day he can see his own make ribs. this is mcdonald's attempt to associate its brand with good help unfortunately, these were installed before sex and the city taught us be biking can be
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as bad for your heart as a double quarter pounder with cheese. i prefer to lift at mcdonald's, that's how you get supersized. simple routine, byes, tribes and fries, wednesday sick chest, back and big. >> and fridays is buns of steel and sesame seeds. not to be outdone, arby's replacing tables and porta potty. topic three. small town in illinois outraged upper convicted arsonist has been named their new fire chief. likely to the new chief, he's no stranger to causing firestorms. the town 13 fire fighters resigned and fought protest about their new chief, in addition to buildings, clearly he's learned how to burn bridges in this town. jeremy simmons is the new chief, 41 years old but at 18 he pleaded guilty to arson after lighting a vacant home on fire and starting another fire at a school which is why he's also nominated to lead the local
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teachers union. fiscal fire was a big misunderstanding, he thought the sign outside said kindle garden. he's looking forward to lighting up the town with new i guess. instead of water, he wants to fight fire with fire. the townspeople are not so sure, many say they are worried for public safety and i have to agree putting in arsonist in charge of a fire department is almost as nuts as putting a guy who funded enhanced coronavirus was in charge of finding enhanced coronavirus us. we never be dumb enough for that. topic number four. finally tonight, would you like a free vacation in italy? perhaps on the coast. sounds nice. kfc has a better idea, chicken magnet offering a chance to win a free stay at a kfc themed log cabin in kentucky. it's the perfect setting for your next chainsaw massacre. one-of-a-kind getaway including
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