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inflation, is wiping out their wage gains. it's a white-knuckle ride on the stock market. hold on, we've got you covered. joining us which have congressman mike gallagher. brian fitzpatrick, phil wegmann, labor secretary nominee andy puzder. former national security advisor kt mcfarland, former nypd commissioner howard safir and texas attorney general ken paxton. we have top court striking down the new york's mandate. government emails showing that scientists did warn dr. fauci from the get-go that the pandemic possibly leaked from a lab. he hotly denied it. those scientists censored themselves after consulting with dr. fauci. we've been digging into the nih documents from the very beginning. we were on it early on in 2020. we're finding how the nih did

support dangerous supervirus research in the early 2000s, despite dr. fauci's heated denials. this problem we're finding more and more. it is deeper than realized. we're on the stick. outrage growing, 25 police officers now dead. a cop buying every day so far this year. the white house press secretary finally cites defunding the police as part of the problem. this story tonight, manhunt continues for the killer of an officer in houston. we'll bring you the very latest. bipartisan group of lawmakers, demanding speaker pelosi, congressman mccarthy schedule a vote banning members trading stocks while in office. we have more information that these conflicts are potentially worse than realized. top democrat lawmaker planning to hold hearings featureing transportation secretary pete

buttigieg on railcars ransacked by thieves. border patrol cut 14 terrorist on the doj watch list last fiscal year. why did homeland security only disclose four? where is the white house securing our southern border? thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. we begin with news coming in. reports that homeland security is warning of a imminent cyberattack against american companies, government agencies and critical infrastructure by russia. remember they did it with the colonial pipeline, that was the accusation. a check of your money, stocks on a slip 'n slide ride, finishing down bouncing off session lows after veering into correction territory for the s&p 500. russia, ukraine, mixed earnings, rate hikes, goldman sachs warns possibly more than four rate

hikes this year. it was expected only going to be three. this is adding to investor fears mounting about inflation, again the third rail for presidencies. it has been wiping out wage gains. average hourly wages down more than 2% after inflation. look who is here with us. back with us former labor secretary nominee, author of capitalist comeback, andy puzder, "realclearpolitics" white house reporter we welcome to the show for the first time phil wegmann. great to have you on. good to see you both. andy, can the white house do the reset with president biden speaking to americans after yelling at reporters like fox news peter doocy and phil wegmann? he called doocy, a stupid son of a bitch. i hate saying that word but i have to. what do you think? >> the best thing that could happen for the republican party from 2022 and 2024 joe biden

getting out to talk to the american people more. they will realize he is not the guy that they voted for. this is not the guy that should be sitting in the white house. inflation is out of control. foreign policy is a disaster. border is porous. this is hidden by the media giants and big tech who he was. elizabeth: this was into the a hot mic moment with peter doocy. the president knew the microphone was sitting in frond of him. what is it like to be yelled at the by the president? >> nothing anyone goes into the press conferences expected or hoping for. peter doocy was a complete pro. he laughed it off and he moved on but it does seem like president biden is increasingly prickly. there was the eruption at the press conference. he sort of took that swipe at fox news's jacqui heinrich, what we saw with peter. peter he did the right thing. he moved on. one thing is being overlooked

here, you have mentioned it several times, the third rail of politics, despite the president's sarcasm peter did get a response from the president which he realizes that inflation going into these midterm elections is going to cabinet negative. elizabeth: yeah. peter doocy, he is a smart guy. what he was doing to try to get the president on the record with that question. by the way peter doocy takes no offense. he said the president called him to say it was nothing personal. and i did, to phil wegmann's point it is about policies. let's watch the president attack peter doocy, attack phil wegmann, and other reporters around remember voters on the campaign trail? the president is hit with more than bad polls, harvard "harris poll." his rating fell to 39%. watch this. >> president biden: i'm not joking when i say this, if you ever working with me and i hear you treat another colleague with disrespect, talk down to someone, i promise you i will fire you on the spot.

>> you think inflation is political liability in the midterms. president biden: that is great asset. more inflation. what a stupid [bleep]. >> are you -- [inaudible]. president biden: president at that is interesting reading of english. i assume you got into journalism because you like to write. >> mr. president, can i ask you a question. >> no you can't. unless you get in front of a car an step on it. i'm only teasing. >> why are you so confident he will change his behavior, mr. president. >> president biden: i'm not confident he will change his behavior. what do you do all the time. >> health care? president biden: [inaudible] >> do you think might incentivize more people to come over illegally. president biden: if you guys keep sending that garrage out, yeah. you're a dam liar, man, that is not true. elizabeth: him yelling at a voter. why isn't yelling about crime

and the border crisis? >> because he doesn't have policy solutions for those issues. i will go after the press. once again out there saying he shouldn't be president. you treat people with disrespect i will fire you. he should be fired just like with president trump when he presided over 280,000 covid deaths, that he didn't deserve to be president. biden presided over many more thousands than that. this is someone shouldn't be in the white house by his own standards. as phil said he has gotten awfully prickly here, the question on inflation, the questions the press are presenting to him are absolutely legitimate. inflation is a big issue for the american people. it looks like it will continue to go a up because the administration has no policies that could possibly bring it down. obviously he will be prickly about it. he has no answers. >> we hear you. to andy's point, phil, want your perspective where you sit reporting from the white house.

is inflation the one thing that really gets the president going? even obama officials, larry summers, jason furman, steve rattner warn it is getting white hot, it is entrenched. it is not transitory as the white house repeatedly claimanted. >> the early hopes inflation would work its way out when the supply chain rebounded from the pandemic those hopes have been dashed there is expectations we could see the inflation into the next year but i think if you look at some of the recent eruptions from the president it is no coincidence that those have been directed at jackie and peter of fox news. in fact we even saw some in biden world sort of cheering this. perhaps this is indicative of the president letting loose a little bit more. he knows this is not going to hurt him with a liberal base. maybe the expectation is that you play up some of that conflict in order to get them out in the coming midterms. idea inside of the white house.

not that he has violated his pledge to be civil, instead this is blue-collar joe biden letting his hair down. elizabeth: but he no, andy, calling out the meat, tech, pharmaceutical drug industries for raising prices, right? that they dominate the entire market but pouring government money and fed money printing into an economy facing severe labor shortages is a recipe for historic inflation at a 40-year high. where do you come down on that? i can only guess. i know where you come down. go ahead. >> he says there is no competition in the beef sector because four companies control the, control output, control production. don't you think those four companies compete with each other? almost like in his own sentence, in his own statement he is contradicting himself. look, democrats, particularly joe biden aren't used to being challenged by the press. they're not like republicans. not like donald trump where every press conference is attack after attack. elizabeth: got it. >> this guy is used to being

treated with silk gloves. the way he reacts is reflection of the fact he is not used to being attacked. elizabeth: got it. he has been around since the nixon administration. you would think you would know how to deal with reporters. andy puzder, great writer. phil wegmann thanks for coming on the show. you're a great writer. big fan of your work. great to have andy on. up next, former national deputy security advisor kt mcfarland. emails show scientists warned dr. fauci in january of 2020 about a pandemic leak possibility. dr. fauci hotly denied it. but then they censored themselves after talking to dr. fauci. we've been digging into this growing controversy as you've been watching since 2020. we're looking at the government documents this, controversy about dr. fauci is deeper than realized. stay right there. >> this is really been like a partisan move by fauci to help the democrats defeat donald trump. he keeps changing his tune. i think that americans are

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faster. era of mandates look like its over. new york state supreme court knocks out the new york state mask mandate. there is appeal. osha pulling back the biden vax mandate for federal workers after the supreme court ruled it you unconstitutional. kt, i want to talk about this, now focus will be about origins of the pandemic. you've been on the show. we've been digging into this since 2020. house republicans, emails dr. fauci warned by scientists in late 2020. this pandemic likely leaked from a lab. then he consulted with them. then they censored themselves, right no what is your reaction to this? kevin hassett is saying this guy big footed everything. >> look there were two coverups going on. one is the chinese government, they wanted to coverup what was going on at the wuhan lab. they wanted to cover up the lab leak because they didn't want to get blamed for it. there was a second coverup, fauci and the national institute

of health. they were told they could not do gain of function, frankenstein research, create killer viruses, they were told they couldn't do that. they did a workaround. instead of funding research in american labs, they gave funding to another consulting company, to another consulting company which ultimately ended up in the chinese military biological weapons lab in wuhan. once the leak happened, that is why fauci had to cover his tracks as fast as he could and that is why they big footed anybody who said anything about anything coming from that lab, as preposterous, wet market theory was. elizabeth: so you know, you've been inside with dr. fauci. kevin hassett said dr. fauci big footed him in a meeting. he said, effectively i'm the guy in charge. so when you look what went on. >> right. elizabeth: we'll go through the research that details we're getting out of government

documents. therm told this virus genome could not have happened in nature. it did not evolve in nature. dr. fauci said in 2012 the benefits outweigh the risk as pandemic could leak from a lab. there is gigantic gain of function bureaucracy inside the u.s. government, they're reporting on it. it you is about making vaccines and viruses. dr. fauci has been walking an stonewalling probes by "the washington post" into this. if he is so transparent as he claims, why he is blocking reporters asking questions about it? >> he is guilty as could be. you know, liz, as deputy national security advisor in the trump administration, one of my jobs would have been to find out what kind of money we were sending to china, what kind of research programs we were doing. i never heard anything about this gain of function research. i checked with the people on the national security council staff. they had never heard anything about this. so fauci took it upon himself to make this decision. and to do this kind of research.

who knows what his motivations were. maybe they were personally financial. maybe because he wanted scientific bragging rights. let's just assume he thought the risks might be worth it because if we have another terrible outbreak but what they were not counting on what was going on at the wuhan lab. so for all the money they gave the wuhan lab they didn't get oversight capability. they didn't know what the chinese military was doing there or what their own scientists were doing. elizabeth: that is the point. let me back up. when senator kennedy asked dr. fauci about that he admitted there wasn't oversight of what the u.s. funding was used for in china. there was little tracking of that u.s. taxpayer money and how it is used for supervirus research. dr. fauci admitted that in testimony. his agency, the niaid also towed "the wall street journal" last year, we, it is impossible for us to track how china uses the money. in other words he is hotly denying to senator rand paul in

testimony saying we did not fund gain of function research but, but they have. we've seen the patents. we've seen the government grant money, kt. we're looking at it. there have been 11 lab experiments where supercharged pathogens were created since 1992. so it has been out there. it has been out there. why does he continue to deny what government documents show? >> i don't think they ever expected the government documents to see the light of day. they expected reporters to go away. you doggedly have been on this. one thing i looked at, liz, how fauci answered the questions with senator kennedy and senator rand paul. he was carefully lawyered. he did not say we're not doing gain of function research. we're not doing gain of function research at that laboratory in china. well, really? who is doing that gain of function research? the whole thing stinks and here's what i think is going to be the only good news that comes

out of this. when republicans take the house and the senate as they are expected to do one year from now, general, the entire national institute of health, dr. fauci, all the people involved, they will be subpoenaed, they will be called up to congress and they will have to answer for what they did and there will be plenty of proof showing that they lied. elizabeth: kt, you make a good point about the parsing and dissembling. the parsing of words in testimony, right? because, listen, so he hit with the aids crisis. he was accused by the gay community pushing out drugs that were poisoning gay people. after going through that, we understand he is trying to do the right thing, right? he is trying to develop drugs and vaccines, trying to be a good guy. then he goes flying down this highway about gain of function research and vaccines and drugs made off of that. he runs a massive 12 billion-dollar bureaucracy that gives out grant money. a lot of these scientists get

royalties off the patent discoveries. there is a lot of power there. he is the highest paid worker in the federal government. >> right. elizabeth: you can see the crisis unfolding psychologically with dr. fauci. your final word. >> look there were two coverups and to me the most damning was the american coverup. the chinese kept saying early on, well it wasn't from our lab. that was an american thing. i wonder if we need to get to the bottom of it. elizabeth: got it. kt mcfarland. great to have you back on. you will come back again soon. coming up next, we have a hot show for you. up next, former nypd police commissioner howard safe iris growing. 25 cops dying this year. a cop dying every day of covid, of shotguns or gunshots or assaults. officer line of killing during duty on track to surpass 2021.

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houston police are still searching for the man who gunned down a harris count officer during a traffic stop this weekend. caseys stiegel has the very latest. reporter: elizabeth, cops putting the squeeze on their suspect by arresting two of his relatives yesterday and charging them with tampering with evidence. investigators say they have also recovered the getaway car. once more, houston police say they have video evidence of a 51-year-old oscar rosales jumping out of the white toyota vehicle, opening fire around then killing the constable. investigators believe he is hiding out in the houston area. they're also digging more into his past. adding that he could be living under an alias. >> oscar rosales is the name he is known by now. it is not known under that name where his true citizenship is, what his true criminal history is but this photograph tells you who we're looking for. you can't run from your own photo. >> he is a very dangerous

individual. we'll move his butt off the streets as soon as we can. reporter: eyewitnesses report that the shooter used an assault-style weapon. you see from the aerial pictures of the constables vehicle, aim was clearly taken at one spot, the drivers side, 47-year-old corporal charles galloway was. he pulled the car over for a traffic stop but didn't get a chance to get out of his car. he had 12 years of seniority with the department, the constable volunteered to work the overnight shift in order to help train new recruits. liz? elizabeth: case cysteine gel, thanks for the reporting there, really appreciate it. we'll stay on the story. welcome to the show former new york city police commissioner howard safir. howard, we'll show the procession carrying slain police officer jason rivera shot in

harlem friday night. now his partner is dead, will burt mora. he passed away. now your thoughts? >> i'm angry. this is direct and anticipated result of the defund the police movement, the black lives matter movement, the riots after george floyd, the message progressive leftist prosecuting attorneys, you can carry a gun, won't worry about bail. criminals are not afraid of police. that is why we're seeing the horrible shootings. my heart goes out to the families of these officers. elizabeth: let's watch patrick lynch. he is the head of the police benevolent association in new york. he said cops feel like they are totally alone. watch this. >> our hearts are broken. we're in shock. our knees are buckling. and we're angry because we have been here before. we're angry because we saw it

coming. we're angry because we said it was going to happen and it happened again. elizabeth: he warned it was going to happen and it happened again. 51 officers killed in the line of duty last year. we have ambush assaults on cops doubling. 314 police officers shot in the line of duty. 119 of those shootings occurring in the midst of 95 separate style ambush attacks. we have footage what the cops endured in the seattle portland riots. they had hammers thrown at them hit with hammers. lasers to blind them. soup cans thrown at them, frozen water bottles and more. we understand the police brutality and need to investigate that. do you feel there has been enough media coverage of the aftermath? >> absolutely not. the media tends to cover the people who are the loudest and the people who are way to the left. the fact is we have been voices in the wilderness since the

floyd murder. that this would happen if you defunded police, if you loored bail, if you rushed to judgment as they have in releasing felons from jails and prisons all over this country. this is a perfect storm for criminals. if we don't turn it around and turn it around right away, by empowering the police to do what they know how to do we'll have chaos in this country. elizabeth: the white house is saying they do black police officers. the president repeatedly says that. seven gop senators led by chuck grassley and senator marsha blackburn sending a letter to the president, do not put hamstrings, purse strings and conditions with your executive order because about police reform could you effectively defund state and local police departments. let's watch the white house press secretary saying that yes, defund police has been farther of the problem behind the u.s. crime wave. watch this. >> gun violence is a huge reason for the surge in crime.

underfunding of some police departments and their need for additional resources, something the president advocated for consistently through the course of his career. that is something we know we need to take action on. elizabeth: your reaction? >> this president has not been supportive of police. he has rushed to judgment on a number of incidents before the facts were known. he is not a pro-police president and now that he is seeing that chaos is beginning to reign in this country and the voters are going to rise up and put those people out of office he suddenly walking that back and chuanging his -- elizabeth: got it. howard safir, thanks for joining us. come back soon. we're coming out of the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. still to come we have a top democrat lawmaker threatening hearings featuring transportation secretary pete buttigieg as supply chain cargo trains are increasingly looted and ransacked by thieves in

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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome to the show congressman brian fitzpatrick. let's first deal with this news. house speaker pelosi is not retiring. reports coming in she will seek re-election. congressman, you've been in on this group of more than two dozen house lawmakers saying speaker pelosi, kevin mccarthy immediately schedule a vote on bipartisan push to stop stock trading by sitting lawmakers while in office. is this a serious thing? is this going to happen, this

vote? >> thanks for having me, elizabeth. it better happen. elizabeth, as you're aware before serving in congress i was an fbi agent, starting in new york city where i worked in the white-collar crime unit. if american public is investigated for insider trading why shouldn't members of congress not be subject to the same rules? the reality, elizabeth, as members of committees we have closed-door briefings, often time with corporate ceos, corporate executives, board members, and members of congress in the course of legislating and course of policy making learn information that they should not be permitted to trade stocks on. there are two bills out there, the bill that passed in 2012, essentially called the stock act, it is toothless. it has been around for a long time. it has not worked. so there are a couple of pieces of legislation out there, they're all bipartisan. one requires blind trusts and outright ban on a members of spouses and children from trading stocks up until 180 days

after they leave congress. elizabeth: got it. polls show americans don't like this at all. you know, we've got reports showing that 105 congressman trading nearly $290 million worth of stock. that is according to a report from the wall street stock like unusual whales. they do an options alert about this. that congress beat the s&p 500. nancy pelosi's husband beat the s&p 500 as well. you look at the timing of the pelosi family stock trades. she is one of the top traders in congress. her husband rather is, her husband rather is. u.s. army, contract with microsoft, 22 billion contract. high-tech headsets, virtual reality, right? the husband trades, exercises call options two weeks prior. you know what i mean? he doubled their position overnight on that. >> yeah, elizabeth, it's a problem on two front. number one you don't want members of congress trading proactively based on information they learned. second you don't want them polly

making, legislating to protect their existing portfolio. this should be a no-brainer this, is bisawn push. stock act of 2012 is not working. we know that. so why not do this? at a time we're so desperate in need, elizabeth, restoring faith in our institutions including congress, this should be a no-brainer. we can't have rules apply to thee not for me. elizabeth: that's right. this is is the swamp in overdrive. americans are cynical. congressional approval ratings are down in the low double digits. across twitter and tiktok their entire followings dedicated to trades of members of congress. buying what they're buying as in ininvesting strategy. that is not a good look. you're right about military contracts, covid spending, cryptocurrency. do you see it, are people in congress talking about this? are they worried they're being

seen as taken advantage of their elected office? what do you hear? >> they should be. you should not be trading stocks. elizabeth: are they worried about it? are they talking about it? >> we'll find out and we'll find out if we get 290 cosponsors on either one of these pieces of legislation, under the rules it puts on something called consensus calendar. circumvents house leadership, forces full vote on u.s. house of representatives. we should see. everybody should be forced to vote on the issue, go back home to the explain the vote to to their constituents. reach out to members of congress to cosponsor these bills. elizabeth: congressman fitzpatrick, great to have you on. come back again, see you soon. thanks for the great conversation. still to come, we have congressman mike gallagher. he is fired up. a top democrat lawmaker threatening hearings featuring transportation secretary pete buttigieg over supply chain

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♪. elizabeth: joining us now, congressman mike gallagher from house transportation and infrastructure. congressman, great to have you on. democrat congresswoman eleanor r holmes norton said she may call transportation secretary pete buttigieg to testify at congressional hearings about supply cargo, supply chain cargo trains looted in l.a. by thieves. is this a serious push? is that going to happen? >> we'll see, you know things are bad even the democrats are calling on the secretary of transportation to even show up. secretary pete may still be on

paternity leave. he has been absent most of the crisis. the crisis continues to get worse. it is intersecting with another crisis which is the crime wave sweeping the nation. this isn't just amazon prime boxes being robbed off of trains in a script out of the 1hundred's, we have cops and kids getting killed across the country. california may be the worse this, is happening in my home state of wisconsin. we had record number of homicide in milwaukee last year with 197. six people were killed yesterday. from chicago to new york, organized retail theft and violence against cops is getting worse. americans don't feel safe and it is a direct result of the defund the police policies we've seen, the push on the front from the democrats and soft on crime d.a.s particularly in liberal parts of this country. elizabeth: stay on that for a second because by the way, the transportation secretary by the way has been criticized for being awol on this after being in l.a. at the port there saying the white house saved christmas

but you know, so they go soft on crime in california while hyper regulating truckers. you know what i mean? union pacific is blaming to your point weak on crime l.a. d.a. george gascon. no judicial deterrents or consequences. citing 100 arrests, half are booked, some released in 24 hours. >> it is an absolute disaster. quickly on the weak d.a. piece, we had a similar story play out in wisconsin, someone let out on bail by weak on a crime d.a., mode people down on a holiday parade. absolute tragedy as a result of these terrible policies. on trucking issue, trucking industry in my district is seeing a major workforce shortage. when we see empty shelves in stores we need everything to do to insure drivers get to the stores as soon as possible. not impose vaccine mandates for non-u.s. truck drivers that go back and forth across the

canadian border which the biden administration has done. we should stop. make the flow of goods as seamless as possible. the answer is opposite of california hyperregulation. we need more people getting involved in trucking which fixes k-12 education system to get kids right into the workforce. elizabeth: we hear you. do you think california is ground zero of the supply chain crisis? >> i do. i think obviously we saw crazy counterproductive policies at the port facilities there, not allowing certain boxes to be stopped but honestly if you take a step back i think the bigger issue for the supply chain crisis you have to go further west all the way to china, which is our hyper dependency of china. we've been integrating china in to the global economy for better part of three decades. it makes us increasingly dependent on a hostile foreign power. we need to bring the critical manufacturing back to the united states. especially things like semiconductors, chips, rare

earth. we can't give the chinese communist party that amount of leverage over us to cheat and undermine the american worker. elizabeth: do you think they're sticking it to us? because we heard late last year this is burgeoning problem in china, china was delaying shipments and hiking fees and costs of the shipments? your final word? >> china would never stick an opportunity to stick it to us. their goal to kick us out of the europacific. during the early stage of the pandemic they threatened to cut off the flow of life-saving drugs in order to plunge the united states into sea of coronavirus as one of their diplomats put it. absolutely they like to weaponize supply chains against us. elizabeth: got it. congressman mike gallagher, scary stuff. we'll stay on the story. that was a great interview. come back soon. coming up texas attorney general ken paxton, former border patrol chief rodney scott revealing

that border patrol caught 14 terrorists on the fbi watch list last year. so why did homeland security only disclose four? where is the white house securing our southern border. our story next. >> in my 35 years working immigration, i know for a fact when you have ask a secure border you save lives. when president trump had the most secure border we ever had, many lives were saved.

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take a look at this footage from fox news, bill melugin showing the single mostly male illegal rents coming into the u.s. starting out a small unmarked office at a parking garage in texas. joining us now, texas attorney general ken paxton, is this how it works? they move people with federally contracted buses by unmarked office buildings and put them in rather u.s.? >> that's exactly how it goes. i've talked to dallas police officers and others who see them come in in the middle of the night and release people and get off the bus they just disappear. they go away and it's been going on for the last year and the

biden administration has done this on purpose with no transparency. liz: retired border patrol chief rodney scott said recently border patrol and law enforcement caught 14 suspected terrorists on the fbi terror watch list at the border with mexico last fiscal year, that's more than triple the homeland security disclosed. they disclosed four. why is homemade security seemingly downplaying the number? >> i think they realize there's a problem if they look terrorists in the country, these are just the ones we've caught coming across the land, that's not all, they are still coming. concerned about terrorism. some day this is going to happen and it's going to be the biden administration's fault that people died because of the terrorists they are allowing to cross the borders. liz: he's saying we've seen

terrorists the database caught at a level we've never seen before, terrorism expert told congress in august and the media that al qaeda and isis try to enter the u.s. illegally by way of the southern border. we are just a generation away from 9/11 but if you talk about it now it's seen as conspiracy stuff, why? >> that's such a good question, one reason they rodney scott at the door, trying to focus, it's a big concern he had talking about publicly now so i'm shocked the biden administration doesn't care about protecting against terrorism, obviously coronavirus is not a big deal for them in the fact that we are hearing having human trafficking this i thought it would get their attention and even this is worth the cost of what they want which is illegal immigration willing to sacrifice the fact that we might have terrorists in our country we want the warnings came from experts in august

after the bosch withdrawal from afghanistan and collapse in afghanistan. the numbers seem to be higher than prior years and we have a story customs and border protection not disclosing these arrests in 21 and that the report and prince evp issued a news release many men were caught at the border on the terror watch list, cvp deleted the news release shortly after. why is border patrol during that? >> i think border patrol, they are great people, going back to the border this coming week, they are trying to do their job, the biden administration is telling them to keep their mouth shut and not let people know the truth. the of administration is hiding the truth from a complete lack of transparency which is a shame and i'm hopeful when congress changes hands and broke it to the bottom of us although it might be too late for some

because a terrace attack but happen. liz: we hope not, that's bad news. we did have house republicans visiting the border in march 2021 reported authorities people on the terror watch list are starting to exploit the southern border prices, talk about how drug cartel and human trafficking cartel searched the border and try to distract patrol away from an area and push contraband and illegal immigrants across, is this something terrorists overseas can see and exploit? it sounds like a dumb question but do they know about this how weak the border is and they are exploiting it? >> absolutely, they are doing their best, half of them have to be involved in logistics so if you are on the cartel side, sent people over and keep the border patrol busy and it's been going on for thousands of years people do this, they distract them in

wrong drugs and terrorists across from of course the terrorists would know it's a easy border to cross. liz: got it, thanks for joining us, come back soon. thanks for watching, i'm elizabeth mcdonnell, you've been watching the evening at a on foxbusiness. we hope you have a good evening and join us again tomorrow night. ♪♪ kennedy: we are not anti- mask, we are anti- mandate, that's a battle cry from conservatives and libertarians in new york state challenging the governor's controversial and unscientific policies but the government is fighting tooth and nail to keep her mandate in place. the appeals court ruled in the governor's favor but the fight is far from over. it's happening in cities and states across this country, bigger citizens standing up demanding an end to restrictions that do little to stop covid and may be doing more harm t