what they did in afghanistan, they failed miserably and will fail again. liz: for to steal, i'm elizabeth mcdonald, you have been watching the evening at on foxbusiness from about does it for us, thank you so much for watching, we hope you have a good evening and during as against demonic. ♪♪ kennedy: is world war iii underway according to one of the most influential hedge funders in the world? is the answer, how do we prevent nuclear holocaust or has that been putin's plan all along? russian military invasion of ukraine continues to get worse. 1.7 million refugees have fled, many more state department the situation continues to deteriorate. russians reportedly now fire roughly 700 cruise missiles into ukraine from impossible to know many civilians there have died

but i will tell you the ukrainians are fighting back thing not be to artillery firing rounds at russian invaders, ukrainians claim to kill more than 11000 russians shoulders soldiers planes and helicopters, we are told this is ukrainians shooting down a russian chopper over the weekend. russian tanks continue to roll in. this is video of the outskirts of kyiv and because it seems like ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy is still begging for more help. >> react decisively and fast. we are saying let us, give us the ukrainian fighter jets which we can used to protect ourselves, our children. give ukraine self-defense to govern the nuclear power plant

in your appearing in europe so it will be destroyed. kennedy: should think sent for or with this be a world where we might not recover from? the brand-new book came out last week, go get it now, rob o'neill. he is the guy who shot and killed osama bin laden, thank you for that forever. >> thank you for having me, a pleasure to be here. kennedy: great to have you, horrible times. i'm curious what you see when you look at what russia doing, are we in the middle of world war iii? >> our people will say the beginning of world war iii because this is how it happens and it started before this the russians invaded georgia, one of the provinces when i annexed crimea and they are starting to roll up on ukraine, i personally didn't think there would invade ukraine because i like to think of myself as rational decisions and vladimir putin, i think he

assumed it roll in and let them keep the flag and put in a puppet government until the but now that there's resistance, putin is arrogant and psychotic and a narcissist probably won't stop there comes down to what we do and when. the problem is what we are doing is giving them anti- take muscles other countries but once they realize they are losing nine planes a day, it will stop flying and just to artillery and that's the thing, they go wherever they go and shooting into the city, explosions everywhere. kennedy: it does seem indiscriminate so they are where they watching them from? >> there's land base and some from planes but cruise missiles are except expensive and it comes to a drag out fight in war of attrition which occurred from russians plan to because russia has always been the type of place where there are two soldiers from across, one gun, don't turn away because they'll kill you. they thought they were going because we were told kyiv was

overrun by white supremacist and nazis. kennedy: there was a russian commander who said that he was like we thought it was taken by nazis, that's a propaganda therapy that apparently. >> vladimir putin even said that to us, almost like a double take like wait a minute, is not real? nazis are back, no, wait a minute, they're the ones in the border they are trying to invade us. there were telling people they were trying to invade us. nowadays everyone calls everyone a if you disagree. worse than hitler. we are finding out now it could potentially be worse than hitler vladimir putin takes ukraine and then they move. if you get into poland, i love poland, you don't mess with poland from immigration, facing and dealt with us in the 30s and that was enough for them and

i've fought with poland's on the ground from special forces, yeah. kennedy: so tell me, what is the situation with the planes in poland? our secretary of state said they've got the green light to go ahead and give ukraine planes and we'll just backfill a very complicated needle. >> especially when you consider was given to the poland by the soviet union on site novel, old-school and pilots know how to find them it's one thing say if you give them weapons, eventually they will get mad and when you put a national aircraft or when russia nato soil, it's on. if we have nato pilots shooting down russia and killing him from vladimir putin won't like it and not escalate. none of us want that but with back down and showed this, we stopped routine missile exercise just because but we don't want to make vladimir putin mad, he

doesn't seem to care if he makes us mad. it's a position of . kennedy: they've given him the olympics and world cup between bill clinton and barack obama, they gave him an entrée to do exactly what he is doing and i don't trust this administration to clean up the mess of past administrations. frankly, and i shared your rational belief he wasn't going to go into ukraine, i really thought because on paper, it didn't add up for a person who wants to engage in capitalism and enrich himself and his country. having said that, maybe we are wrong about the idea that he doesn't want nuclear annihilation, we are assuming it still holds. >> the thing is when you've got a guy like putin talking about letting joseph stalin, he's a must 70 and worried about legacy, his legacy could be the

greatest russian rule who destroyed the world, he might be crazy enough to want to live with that and it's a scary thought he also might be narcissistic enough to say if i'm going down sanctions are the entrée, i'm going to take everyone with. >> that is a huge concern, it's very scary. if it's nuclear, which allows our politicians like to say that, the polar ice caps will get hotter than mobile warming if we start nuking each other. we are going to kill ourselves with climate change regulations long before climate change and that is a huge part of the issue. kennedy: i wish -- i'm going to get into energy and in the next block because we are being held hostage by people who claim that our death is imminent because of global climate change but there are people dying right now because of energy and bad energy policy in this country.

can you give me some good news? is there some good news? >> we have the most oil reserves in the world, we just have to get the. kennedy: why don't we tap back? >> when was the last time a logical decision was made here? kennedy: it's not, that's why you go to the middle of the country in high five people and share a casserole and come back tell everyone on the coast they are dumb bombs. greatest living american, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. kennedy: third round of talks between russia and ukraine ended without any real rectors. shopper. putin has told kyiv he quickly called military operations if certain demands were met including ukraine stopping all military action, rejecting any intention to enter nato a constitution and acknowledged crimea as russian territory and recognize the regions and ukraine as independent states. yeah, that will stop there should ukraine case or continue

fighting for their freedom? tonight party panel, townhall.com editor and fox news contributor, katie pavlich is back on the shelf along with a host of the richard fowler show, richard fowler, fox news printer but also in foundation for economic education writer and liberty activist, olivia rondeau, welcome one and all, olivia representing team usa always. katie, what is going to happen, if anything, with these talks, is it just a giant charade? >> yes, the russians want to have discussions about these fire while at the same time bombing civilians trying to get out of the cities and country to avoid putin slaughtering them in the streets of their city they call home. vladimir putin doesn't ask -- has been asked directly by zelenskyy to have a discussion

about some kind of cease-fire and agreement, vladimir putin has not responded to that request. the russians at the beginning have been lying about their intentions, they've not been trustworthy in terms of cease-fire and continuing to bomb civilian targets, humanitarian outlets set up that they continue to go after despite being told the ukrainians should leave and humanitarian supply chains that up so they can't be trusted at all when it comes to cease-fire so the ukrainians go on as the western alliances try to continue feeding them weapons. kennedy: i don't blame them for being distrustful of the international community. ukraine was told by the united states and russia and broke what the deal if you give up your nukes, you will be safe and we will protect you. why would they trust russia or anyone else right now when that

trust has been grossly violated in the past? >> i think that's right there is lack of trust when it comes to how we get the negotiations done to bring cease-fire and peace and i appreciate your segment previously because to understand what's happening in ukraine, you have to put yourself in the mind of mr. putin here and he somebody who literally set a couple of weeks ago he doesn't believe ukraine is a country which is antithetical because cape was created far before moscow so the ukrainian people and their cultural identity is far before the russians identity is a very interesting -- almost off his rocker. i think he's using this to regain land he believes was his before hand what is military to believe the same thing. what is interesting is to watch how the people of russia are responding, the fact that you seek open protests to him and russia almost every single night

sort of says to me that there is something happening in his own country causing him pause. if you know anything about this from their narcissist afraid of their own shadow which i think means petersburg and moscow, they are making him very nervous right now. kennedy: rightly so because you can't squash everything especially when these things keep going. olivia, younger people are sharing the images and videos on tik tok and to them it's not propaganda from these are first-hand accounts that they are taking video of and trying to get out and show the world and yes putin is trying to shut down access to information but it will find a way to the people so what richard said, you got protests do one thing and russia but also you've got russian billionaires who have enriched themselves because of the policies by putin but a lot of

them have family and ukraine and they know when you are a rich person and want more money, you know war is not the answer so when does that make a difference? >> i think we will see it making a difference shortly as protests get stronger in russia and more and more people are arrested and as it continues splendor between people who want the war and people who have relatives in ukraine to people with friends and ukraine and the people were just empathetic to russia bombing and killing innocent civilians and the younger generation sharing videos on social media, i've seen so many on tik tok and twitter, it's amazing to see a war play out in real time on social media. one thing i would do is recommend caution to people because there is so much propaganda videos circulated that are not even from this conflict or this year so it's important to look at sources when you're seen videos especially on tik tok where anything can go viral.

kennedy: and it does, sometimes people take that as truth, it is a double edged sword in that respect for the voiceless, this is the first time they are able rally people and tell their story in real time. panel is going to stick around, much more to talk about it if you would like to donate money to help refugees and victims, go to the american cross international website red cross.org where you will find direction on how to donate and there are a lot of people would use it. good intentions put into action. coming up, price of gas mark out of gas hit a record. president biden reportedly reaching out oil-rich dictators. what you get when you cross a and a petito? a dictator. an awful cycle, that's next. ♪♪

the average price of gas in the u.s. hit a record hi, $4.10 a gallon. los angeles one station charging

$7 for premium. better feed your horse. now to help her get on, biden administration.dictators across the globe, this past week and white house officials landed in venezuela with representatives from madero government, that's right. the oil deal was on the agenda in a new report claims the president is considering saudi arabia to produce more oil. why won't the president just let u.s. companies produce oil here? instead of getting our energy from foreign tyrants? here to discuss, national security director of international affairs at the university of new haven, doctor matthew schmidt is here, welcome to the show. >> my pleasure. kennedy: why does energy attract the worst people on the planet? >> money, it doesn't like us.

anyway, power to because all sorts of money but a little nutty, by and large they are not killing people. >> there's nothing like that black goal, oil is king in these places started making money off oil long before silicon valley. kennedy: and still using oil which i understand, the thing that concerns me is as we move toward energy independence, which would be wonderful but also alternative energy. >> we have already. kennedy: well, we don't, not to the degree we should otherwise we wouldn't go to venezuela and iran hang on, when i pointed venezuela to make more oil, we're going to venezuela to get out of putin's pocket, nobody thinks will keep our gas prices down there, not venezuela. kennedy: but they are all bad people essentially, the

government in venezuela completely corrupt, saudi arabia using our planes to bomb civilians killed them in yemen, don't get me started on iran, we are going to talk about jc poa in a little bit but we do need more energy independence, it's not just a single mission trying to keep people from talking to russia so what can we do to not be dependent on these people now in the next eight months or so before winter is upon us again because winter is coming. >> we can get more oil faster, facing answer. we won't get from our own production would buy it from saudi arabia, put on the market in venezuela has nothing to do with. that is the answer long-term answer is saudi arabia knows oil will not be king from a in its diversifying its economy and we have to be on the leading edge of china and go to clean energy,

sleep gas and oil now but that day is coming when i will be a detriment to us. kennedy: i had in surfacing conversation somebody who used to work at nasa emphasis clean and abundant energy course, why isn't the united states investing enough? >> we are investing in other options here and we've had amazing advances in the last year, every time i pick up my phone there's something telling me risk here or france or china so there are different routes to get back and you can have disagreements about that technology but we are headed in that representative. gas prices are going down, maybe eight months we get summer but people need to decide, are they going to support a country that's a textbook case for malicious right to bear arms

every time they fill their tank with gas or not. ukraine's war of independence it will cost us to support my friends supported us against britain, it won't be without cost and it doesn't matter what we do in the end, there will be significant energy crisis eat and corn and wheat. kennedy: but what should we be doing to change russia's behavior and are our sanctions enough? >> no, people misunderstand this and use the term oligarch. the oligarchs in the 1990s are the ones they think are there today and they are not because putin came to power by crushing back and said you can have money or political power but not both and put people in jail in exile people out of the country and the oligarchs, so called oligarchs today are rich guys with no political power and they believe in his vision of a

greater russia, a eurasia to build this russian future out there so they will not go against him primarily because they believe in his vision and they are afraid of getting killed as long as putin has security services, you have a long way until somebody takes a risk to go at him. kennedy: go at putin. what you're saying, lindsey graham is telling i think you responsibly within russia to try assassinate a world leader and although i despise him, a poor him, i think it's a bad idea. >> lindsey graham or putin? kennedy: a bad idea for lindsey graham to say those things. >> i do want to but to be honest as a political scientist, there's a history of these things and it's a high probability of how this ends. kennedy: as a political scientist, how does it end? >> in moscow what happens is either the public besides to

overthrow the food regime or the regime cracks down but ukraine's war of independence and ukraine will win because i've been there and have worked there and i know ukrainians and they are absolutely committed to this right and they will bog the russians down and beat them slowly but it doesn't end until vladimir putin is kicked out of power one way or another and that has to happen ukraine's war of independence, moscow. that is a long time coming, 30 years of coming in russia. kennedy: like i said, winter is coming. doctor, i'm sorry i didn't have time to ask you about the pain in my shoulder when i'm swimming. next time, thank you for your time. >> are not my kind of doctor but you know. kennedy: can't win them all i guess. antony blinken says u.s. closing in on a potential nuclear deal with iran but now russia is getting in the mix. why are we negotiating with a

dirty rotten scoundrel? party panel returns to discuss in a moment. ♪♪

♪♪ kennedy: get it? iran. i ran so far away. remember the iran nuclear deal? the biden administration wants to bring it back from but that from a potential deal kind of in the works but look at this, russia entered the conversation. that's great. there demanding guaranty sanctions related to the ukrainian invasion won't impact trade with iran. antony blinken said that argument is garbage without moving his lips. watch.

>> the sanctions being put in place and have been put in place on russia have nothing to do with iran nuclear deal and prospects of getting back into the agreement. these things are totally different are not in any way together so i think that's irrelevant. kennedy: it's not a relevant, all of this is relevant. the russians are looking for relief. if you can't have it one way and not the other so why are we even negotiating? what are we doing? party panel is back from katie pavlich, olivia rondeau, richard fowler. is this what we need right now? russia thing the intermediary tween iran into west? >> no but the problem is the biden administration, envoy, robert malley had a number of people quit over that their negotiations about this so-called iran nuclear agreement because it's gone so poorly and there's so much appeasement from the united states to iran on this issue, russia being one of

them and you have russians saying they don't want any sanctions that have to do with ukraine to affect the nuclear agreement and based on what the administration has done, it's obvious that is what they are doing and when you look at the details we have of this which are very few, all are negotiated, it's clear this isn't just getting back into horrible iran nuclear deal, it's a new deal that has far more appeasement and implications for the united states, they are going to take sanctions off the mastermind behind the 1980 marine bombing in 1983 or sanctions off the terrace behind the argentina bombing so they are going to allow them to fund terrorism and ultimately iran is going to be able to get nuclear weapon, nothing to stop them from doing so. kennedy: that time has gone by now that we are closer to the

date where iran will be freed from any of the confines of the details and if they resuscitated in 2031 so what do you do here? >> this is a tough situation for the biden administration as well as european partners in the iran deal. the moment usa left the deal whether you like it or not, iran began to redevelop their requests getting a nuclear weapons. it's why the united states came back to the table. katie is right working on new deal and we are trying to figure out ways we use sanctions donald trump put in place to say look, if you want these sanctions under the table, let's have a conversation. the russians, because we talked about last segment run via crazy person and their standing in the way, potentially creating a world in which we might have a nuclear free iran in which they want all around the world.

kennedy: therapy lovely but doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon -- >> not with russia at the table. kennedy: absolutely not with russia at the table and russia in the meantime, they are like will take your uranium from we are good, you will be in compliance, don't worry about that, we'll take anything bad out of the country. is that you we want to be gotten? [laughter] >> no, absolutely not. the fact that russia is trying to stand in the way of this or in between us is horrible. i'm not sure what else to say besides the fact that we have to pay closer attention to what's going on. within the year, unfortunately we will see iran nuclear capabilities possibly in the next two years so i think it may even be too late so we have to pay closer attention. kennedy: too late and that we will be in a nuclear conflict with russia or too late and thay

have it. i don't trust that. with my bad swimming shoulder, i should be chewing on anyone. china staying largely silent about the russians invasion of ukraine but they have harsh words for the last chinese foreign minister tonight once the biden administration not to form nato like body in their neighborhood, china ashley planning a takeover of taiwan with the benefit of having learned from russia's recent mistakes and reaction from the last so is this warning a sign of an invasion to come? katie, if you're china, you're looking at this instability and you might just jump through the open window. >> china is kind of looking at reaction to what happened in russia to see how they can navigate the quinces should they decide to invade taiwan but the u.s. former secretary of state mike pompeo last week said we

need to recognize taiwan as legitimate country with its own sovereignty because right now like ukraine we don't do that, we tiptoe around not calling them their own country because china will get upset but the reality is in taiwan relined the goods and services they provide in terms of herbs and microchips and technology produced there and china has every interest taiwan over especially given russia has not slowed down despite sanctions so there is bipartisan agreement on recognizing taiwan as a partner to the u.s. trying to form coalition should they be attacked. china getting the time which is why you see them quiet despite knowing russia would invade ukraine and asked putin specifically to wait until after the olympics so beautiful despite in beijing would not be distracted away. kennedy: you would want to take away from that propaganda pageant.

would hate to do that. but it's not surprising, they released a statement at the beginning of the games thank we are tweedledee and tweedledee is nuts. we are inseparable, best friends, we can't do one without the other. as the world is trying to cancel russia, china is swooping in like a codependent parent. >> definitely are, the announcement around visa and mastercard with companies saying they will but what's interesting with chinese while they are right, you don't have a nato like structure on our specific board but we do have elements of it, we know japan is part of the united states nuclear umbrella as well as south korea, the philippines we sold nuclear submarines to australia, we do have strong alliances in the pacific that world in which china got too aggressive in the

pacific, america would have allies in military bases and alliances in countries that would provide counterbalance to any chinese aggression, it's interesting to make a statement like that when based on history status quo we have military presence on the pacific. kennedy: we need another treaty organization like that and is nato outdated? should we have learned our lesson or should we gather everyone up have our version of the pacific? >> the concept of nato is not only outdated but very out needed. it's come correct, i don't want to see that with the pacific version, i understand what richard is saying the elements are there, the elements should be kept but not buildup more so i don't want to see an overarching organization similar or same as nato built in the pacific and in addition, i think china, it would be china's best

interest to look at sanctions and u.s. response to russia trying to take over ukraine saying we should maybe backup taiwan of the right, i'm hopeful that will happen, not sure if it will but i believe it would be in their best interest so hopefully we don't need to come to where we have to make another nato structure because of how much of a failure current nato is. kennedy: and also -- >> i don't nato has been a failure so. kennedy: we are about to learn how successful nato is because we are going to get into a full scale war. katie, richard -- >> hopefully not, the whole idea of nato is to make sure we don't have another war. kennedy: i'm with olivia on this one and again, i don't trust anybody and it sucks to be in opposition but also sucks to have tyrants gobbling up parts of the world just to indulge their stupid wins.

all right, very good. katie, richard and olivia, lee said. bidens pics around fcc committee headed to a senate vote. a partisan task has republicans up in arms. his his reputation about to come down? that's next. ♪♪

president biden partisan nominee is one step closer to power. last week the senate commerce committee move forward with bidens nomination the federal communications commission after months of heat hearings. this means something, something for freedom and free speech and republicans i think angry lindsey graham, john thune, dan sullivan, they avoid their concern over partisan comments in the past. ftc have been stalled for months

the two -- two deadlock while critical issues like broadband funding neutrality hang in the balance. this president biden's controversial center chance in a full senate vote? here to discuss, director of the cato institute project on emerging technology, matthew sweeney, visio, it's been so long. how are you? >> very well, good to see you. kennedy: how are we? we are kind of host if a partisan hack like this, i hate fox news, it's the worst, so dangerous for democracy. they are a bunch of hillbillies. that's almost a direct quote. >> well, i don't think it's a surprise that she's not conservative and has forced criticisms of the past especially fox news but i think we should keep in mind anyone biden would nominate would be net neutrality and would come the left but we should keep in mind supporters from the left

you have american news and newsmax them out in support of the nomination suggesting support goes across the political spectrum somewhat. kennedy: wire we split on net neutrality? >> i think there are different competing issues at play when you talk about net neutrality, some have an idea that we should treat the internet like a public utility and others think the market is perhaps better at allocating . kennedy: are you a market person or collectivist? >> more of a market person myself. however, i do think is interesting about this debate is that you see the left and right a green somewhat how to treat the internet and the last couple of years you see more and more conservatives making more or

less sounding arguments how product companies should make speeches that they don't want to. kennedy: elizabeth warren and a bunch of older republicans start to echo the same talking points when they want to break up with tech, take a sledgehammer with my mema and papaw and break it apart with my teeth. also a direct quote from reading hear from elizabeth warren. what does this mean for free speech when you have someone essentially wants to enact fairness? >> looking at the ftc shouldn't worry too much about free speech, first amendment remains quite strong and they are encouraged by the fact that this particular nominee comes from internet world she understands from a section 230, content moderation and its valuable. i don't think it's time to panic

about free speech in america just yet. kennedy: i do, have you been to college? you didn't go to college, video? >> a long, long time ago the tooth that's right and i can tell you with smart nebraska accent. thank you for taking the time, appreciate seeing you. >> thanks for having me. kennedy: absolutely. topical storm is next. ♪♪

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[laughter] on camera swiping scented candles from a shelf and smashing them on the floor. just like every woman, she uses candles to relief stress. good thing she didn't hit the clothing i'll, then she really would have thrown a fit. she could be heard yelling black lives matter and screaming about her genitals. maybe she was screaming back to her genitals because which are not touching any of that with a 10-foot pole for my prom dates pole. topic number two. brand-new champagne recalled in europe because it believed to be spiked with ecstasy. if you have this champagne, do not open it, send it to the kennedy team foxbusiness new york new york. i promise, whatever is in that bottle, you might get to the bottom of it because we love freedom. luxurious bottles happen md and

a. making people bubbly in more ways than one. bottles normally sell for $400 but now with all the ecstasy inside, finally a good deal the problem is, it's a huge problem, authorities say they found 1000 doses of ecstasy about which normally takes at least three glasses to make you take off your shirt and touch someone. reports say the champagne caused serious illness in europe and by that i mean turned several european parties seriously ill. topic number three. royal caribbean launched the world's largest cruise ship five times the size of the titanic 19 swimming pools. then again the titanic has a swimming pool and every single room. luxury. yeah. the wonder of the seas.

eighteen deck, 20 restaurants, its own ice-skating rink so much salmonella, therapy diarrhea forever but i predict that even provide the steroids for the russians. las vegas style casino but the biggest gamble on the boat, still the shrimp cocktail. that's not all, a fake central park with 20000 plants and trees and artificial surfing pool. it generates 12-foot waves and live production of chicago. that's chicago. the musical. we'll have a great time if you're into all that jazz. there's a laser tag arena, what am i reading marketing materials? rockclimbing wall but if you want to climb the wall try the champagne. couple of glasses of this and you might actually enjoy the comedian in more ways than one. i'll be right back. i got to tune up my horn, mouth trumpet monday. ♪♪

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