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massachusetts, virginia, florida, new mexico. your guess, please, ashley. >> my extensive knowledge of religious architecture i will to with number three to be different. stuart: i would go with massachusetts but i'm wrong. it is new mexico. the mission was built in sante fe, 1610. roman catholic church holds has masses every sunday. neil, my time is up. neil: i wouldn't know that. valuable piece of information i can tuck into my head, promptly forget it. thank you very, very much, stuart. we're following a couple of developments in the airline front. they're racing ahead with the mask requirements being dropped. we do wonder what happens if this appealed, another judge decided, you know what the florida judge decided we will go the opposite way, will they reimpose the restrictions.
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even for car services lyft, uber, racing ahead on the fact maybe this will improve traffic flow, more traffic period, good for their business, good for their stocks. let's get the read how people are digesting all this news at the nation's airports beginning at chicago's o'hare international airport, we find the very busy, well-traveled grady trimble. how are they taking it all in there? reporter: neil a big change from when i was here two days ago. you can now get into a lyft or uber, go through security, get on your plane to final destination airport all without having a mask on. so a big change but if you look at some video we shot this morning, a lot of people are keeping masks on. sort of a mixed bag but the people we talked to without masks on they are very happy to have them off. if you take a look at the travel numbers for this easter monday, yesterday, about 2.3 million
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people went through tsa checkpoints across the country. that is 300,000 people short on easter monday before the pandemic. we're almost catching up to the pre-pandemic travel numbers. some of people i talk to o'hare here, now that masks are off, they're more inclined to book united states for leisure travel this summer. take a listen. >> i thought this is pretty cool. we'll see what happens. i kind of had to see it to believe it. >> i will travel more, yes, now that isp opened up. >> the gap between driving and flying is closing with gas prices going up. probablily now more of an incentive to fly than drive. reporter: whether airlines are ready for summer travel is completely different question. one expert put it this way. there will be an absolute circus, nothing but absolute wall-to-wall jam. that is the airlines of course
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they already struggled to deal with the increased passenger numbers this year because of staffing issues, mass delays, cancellations at airports across the country this has caused some confusion, neil, how abruptly the mask mandate was done away with. mere at o'hare this morning, folks on twitter at other airports as well, they're still making pa announcements under federal law you have to have your mask on which we know for now at least is not the case and they are not enforcing that. neil: you know, i think the first time in a long time i've seen you without a mask. i thought it was attached to you. no. last week you were here not wearing a mask. it is weird right -- reporter: just in case. neil: just in case, grady trimble. reporter: so bizarre. neil: handsome young man, grady trimble in chicago. lydia been following this, planes, trains automobiles part of the story, more the automobiles because lyfts and
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ubers lifted the requirement as well, right? reporter: now you landed at airport, do you need to put a mask on with uber and lyft? no you don't. both companies dropped requirement for both drivers and the passengers. lyft actually made the announcement just couple hours ago this morning, saying quote, we know everyone has different comfort levels. everyone who wants to continue to wearing a mask is encouraged to do so. as always drivers or riders can decline or accept or can sell any ride they don't wish to take. uber published a similar statement to the website asking people to remain respectful of each other's preferences. the idea up to each individual person, you don't have to not wear a mask. it is just not required anymore but both companies also eliminated this other requirement that passengers only ride in the back seats. now you can ride in the front, if you have enough people in the party, you need the extra seat in the front you can do that as well. as we've seen through the
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pandemic, neil, as we're navigating through rules, new rules, elimination of rules, reinstatement of rules there is some confusion from time toe time. we're seeing this morning as well, some people questioning the morning uber drive. still asked to affirm wearing a mask even though that is no longer a requirement. neil: really? reporter: yeah. uber is working on updates to the app. that will be going away. one other thing i found the uber feature that allows a rider to report a driver for not wearing a mask, as a safety issue, it is still there, on the app. so that is available to riders. i reached out to uber to ask, what does this mean? will it go away? will it take on a new form somewhere or new meaning? haven't heard back. neil: but the driver to your point is not required to wear a mask? reporter: that's right. neil: if he or she passengers want to that's fine. reporter: right. neil: i think i understood that. lydia, thank you very much. i want to go to james, on the
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legal aspect, former law partner, prosecutor. jim this took one judge in florida making this ruling to wipe out mask requirements pretty much across all these industries. i'm just wondering what would happen if a judge, you know, about this is appealed, ruling just the opposite? the masks go back on and requirements go back on? >> yeah, maybe. when i sure hope not. i'm thrilled to start traveling without a mask. i don't have to bring a one pound bag of twizzlers to keep active eating going to avoid the mask. look this is a nationwide injunction. she issued that somewhat reluctantly. she said i can't think after practical way to not call that vacate tore, which means nationwide injunction against the acts of the cdc. will take another challenge. if somebody decides, the starting point is the administration. they announced they were disappointed in the ruling which is remarkably tin-eared
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political view of things. i think hopefully wiser heads this is a well-reasoned decision how the cdc violated the administrative procedures act. how they didn't have notice and comment. it is just beyond the reach. it is reminder, neil, that state and local officials are the ones that can control individual conduct, not federal agencies like cdc. hopefully we're in a position where this thing will become the law of the land. neil: i was talking to someone very nervous about this new mandate you don't have a mandate on masks and she was quite worried she is going to expose herself to problems while flying. she is very vulnerable, all that, to this sort of thing. do they have legal recourse? >> yeah. it is interesting, i mean the plaintiffs in this case were essentially people tied into a group that opposes government regulation but the plaintiffs actually had a complaint of injury to be part of the lawsuit. they said the mask mandates were
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causing anxiety, panic attacks, things like that. i suppose you can dredge up somebody in this great country of ours that i really miss mask masks. anonymity, comfort after worthless piece of cloth across my fight. conceivable somebody can dredge up a plaintiff. whether doj civil will seek a stay. they haven't so far, relatively a good sign. they have a time to seek a stay from the district court judge in tampa or the 11th circuit. that would be the first sign they intend to fight this thing. i hope it remains quiet. neil: only thing i could read into the response, jen psaki said she regretted that decision but beyond that they haven't had any sort of follow-up measures. maybe they figure in this midterm election year it is not a popular thing, the mask thing. so maybe it just sort of dies on the vine but i was wondering knowing you were coming on, jim, a spike of cases like anything we've seen in china or some
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other countries whether that might change? i thought who would make the move? would it be the cdc? another recognized entity that could make that call? because in this case the judge thought the cdc had gone beyond its jurisdiction. so what government body if any could make a call if we go back to masks? >> yeah. i think state or local. actually that is what the constitution talks about. how they have the primary police power, not federal bureaucrats and federal agencies. would you have to see some uptick localized, airport, train station, maybe a union of workers from there decide they want to be the next ones to take up the cause. so we'll see. then you have the feds on the other side of it, you're affecting us because you're talking about interstate commerce. it gets murky. it gets confusing. if there is opportunity here for the administration to send the right sign, which this is over by not challenging the findings
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of this judge. by the way this judge was determined by the the aba to be unqualified when president trump put her in office. i think a whole lot of people would disagree with that notion right now. neil: i remember reading that. if she is just turned that upside down. jim trusty, thank you very much. good seeing you, my friend. let's go to dr. marty makary what he thinks about this. he had his reservations put it mildly about the mask requirement, noted kids and others were not wearing them properly to begin with. doctor, what do you think of this judge's ruling? >> nice to see you, neil. air flow is good. we have not seen outbreaks of covid from air flights. there is mental health cost when everybody has their faces covered. frustration runs high. people wear cloth masks, cloth masks don't really work and government has not done randomized control trial that there is evidence they work. people already had masks removed
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during meals and drinking. one-way masking is an effective strategy, if somebody has a concern they can wear a high quality mask to protect them. the worst thing you can do in public health keep a law or rule in place when it is not necessary. to be blaring hundreds of times a day in a loud intercom system that it's a violation of federal law, you will be subject to penalty the under federal law. that is not the right message in public health. it is unfortunate this saga is ending with public health officials sort of clutching to this policy with a tight grip. this is not good. if we need people to mask up in the future, we lost a lot of credibility. neil: do you think in the early days when this was in its full throes, doctor, that masking did help, it did mitigate things or much ado, fuss, and pain about nothing? >> look i think an indoor congregate settings high quality masks reduce transmission that is well-studied, well-observed.
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not the cloth masks. we're giving people a false sense of security. the air flow has been long discounted. air flow is so good essentially circumvents the need for a mask because we haven't seen those outbreaks. that is what the data shows. you just have -- neil: the fact you weren't seeing it on planes, doctor, indicated air flow, whatever, wouldn't have been a factor with or without masks? >> that's right, exactly. neil: what about state environments, talking about broadway shows, new york, still will have the mask requirement at least until mid next month? i believe that was the last call. philadelphia area restaurants with indoor locations still requiring it what do you think of those measures? >> look, 95% of the population, neil, of adults have circulating anti-bodies. everybody had a chance to get a good strong healthy immune system against covid with the vaccine or multiple boosters and if you have chosen not to have any immunity, natural or vaccinated, you do so at your
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own individual risk f we continue to have restrictions now, we may have them in perpetuity. neil: so let's sort of figure out where we're going here. another judge might come along and overrule this judge. i don't know how that goes. i was talking to a good lawyer beforehand, technically you would have to honor that judge's wishes but you are in the camp that says queer past the point of needing them. so these spikes in cases, subvariants seem to be popping up elsewhere, that do make their way here, ba.2 comes to mind, you, you don't feel that is worrisome enough to tighten restrictions at all, at this point? >> that's my perspective and i talk to doctors around the country and the hospitals are virtually empty of covid ill patients right now. people who want masks to continue and are frustrated that the judge removed mask mandate in planes, cite the fact 14,000 people are hospitalized with covid in the united states now today, but that number is highly
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inflated because roughly 55 to 62% of hospitalizations are for incident a.m. covid positive findings. we normally have respiratory path owe against circulate. i think we're pretty much at the endemic phase we'll have long term. neil: when we long at reluctance on part of many americans to return to in office jobs, depends where you are in the country, i think in the new york metropolitan area more has to do with crime than covid, leaving that aside, is there any risk to a population that could well in these cities and urban areas, work places, that will now be much more crowded? >> yeah, there is some risk but we're talking about, now with high population immunity, risk that is very small, significantly diminished, downgraded significantly. we should almost rename the virus to give it a different name because covid has the stigma of higher infection fatality rate. it is now documented to be lower than that of now now on
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case-by-case basis. people need to be in communities, there is powerful aspect of being connection with facial cues, reading one another. i think that is an important part of society. neil: dr. marty makary, great seeing you again, my friend. johns hopkins professor of public health, fox news contributor, best-selling author, so much more. corner of wall and broad we're racing ahead here. what it could mean for business and the economy helping matters as well as early read on earnings coming in a tad better than expected. i say 6% better than expected. again it is early, that is and encouraging sign despite the big backup in interest rates, right now a 10-year note fetching you over 2.9%. very, very close to 3%, whether it holds at and you these levels, it doesn't seem like like equities guys really care. we'll have more after this.
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♪. neil: you know i've seen that graphic before, but it's cheerful music if you think about it on the twitter thing and it's getting to be a very nasty fight so i think we need nastier or more urgent or deadlier type music here to go with this because it is turning into a real nasty battle. twitter employees themselves aren't too keen on elon musk n a survey they made it overwhelmingly obvious, not keen on him taking over the company. jack dorsey, founder, big cheese there, you know what? the twitter board is dysfunctional. keeping track of all these developments kelly o'grady in los angeles. looks like this is a big battle going on. reporter: oh, it definitely is. reports are surfacing that twitter is expected to rebuff elon musk's offer. there is internal battle raging, new employee survey that the billionaire should face strong
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opposition should his takeover should be successful. 78% don't think musk has the best interests of shareholders in mind. many accused him having no compassion, calling the entrepreneur a dangerously insane oligarch. despite the furry towards musk, 69% believe the ceo and board have poor job handling the saga. that apfierce to be shared by former leader jack dorsey, threw shade about tweets of board's dramatic early days, calling it the dysfunction of the company. not everyone is fearful of elon's vision. twitter polls, majority of respondents expressed approval of his views on free speech and to take the decision directly to shareholder. frequent target of cancellation events joe rogan expressed his approval as well. >> me included, everyone is excited elon musk is trying to buy twitter, yes the great one. freedom of speech is someone you don't like saying something you
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don't want to hear. they have to have that right. that is essential to democracy. reporter: i don't know why he chose that wig. we have no timeline when twitter will respond to the takeover. on 28th, likely address it by then. he ace he has a plan b if the bid is rejected. neil: you read my mind. i saw him in the wig, i didn't understand. it is such a distraction. reporter: it is. neil: it is what it is kelly thank you very much for that. get's go to susan lee, where this stands, ray wang, everyone wants to rule the world. that does seem to be the case with the social media world. i would be curious what you make, i found a significant development, pat dorsey weighing on out of nowhere on the board itself, that is little bit dysfunctional. that is particular diatribe against twitter for some time now, maybe, maybe, this is his way of saying dorsey, changeses
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are needed. what did you make of that? >> definitely. i think the board has been dysfunctional for a while. it has been trying to find its meaning. everybody has a different opinion how twitter will grow, what is required, how features are needed and how they handle elections, involvement, community, social issues. that has been a challenge. when you look at the board composition, the largest shareholders don't have a vote or active stake in terms of board ownership. look at vanguard, look at morgan stanley, you look at blackrock. they're on the board, they have got these proxies there. what would be interesting is what elon is suggesting, having twitter shareholders vote for a board that is actually a shareholder, actually has enough percentage ever stake to actually do something. that is what he hinting at. this board is dysfunctional. we need to fix it. neil: one of his ideas, elon musk, susan, was, maybe not pay board members anything at all. where do you think that goes?
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he is obviously trying to sow some discontent certainly among shareholders and the board, that he is also pointed out are members, own just a small amount of stock. so they don't really have the shareholders interest at heart because they're not shareholders themselves? >> yeah. i was looking through this. you know, elon musk with the tweet saying would save $3 million a year right there if they didn't pay the 11 member twitter board, 250, to 300,000-dollar salary for what they call a part-time job. have you looked at the makeup of twitter board? these people don't need 250,000 or 300,000 doll wars a year. ceo makes $20 million, most of that in stock options each year. the silver lake founder, ray fair, even robert zoellick i would bet doesn't need that type of money. i found interesting, jack dorsey, particularly talking
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about the founders and the back-stabbing, all the drama behind the scenes amongst not just the board but also the founders of twitter. he himself is more eseparatetive and probably more supportive of twitter being taken private because he says to him that is how you operate a functioning town square. neil: the pain notwithstanding -- pay not with standing, ray, i think it would be a company's interest going to more board members with stock, so they have at least a little bit more inclination to wonder about whether this is something that is good for shareholders? >> they definitely need more skin in the game. that is part of it. a lot of board members as susan was saying. they don't necessarily need the job for that income. but the real question is why is it taking so long for new features to come out, right? the edit button, group folks, mention, those are things people wanted to do for some time. why are they still the 7th
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largest social media company, they could be much bigger. they would be at a billion users instead of 300 million users. questions, good governance in the boardroom would have asked the questions and head the management team more accountable earlier. neil: susan, the idea of so many members, workers at twitter, not looking favorably on elon musk, i don't know with politics, he seems more libertarian to me. >> right. neil: what is so bad about having that point of view expressed amid allegations that you know you guys are very insular crowd, will not entertain opposing points of view? >> yeah. ray, i'm sure could talk about this living in silicon valley himself. always baffles me everybody in silicon valley love teslas, buys elon musk's cars, when it comes to the politics, what he does in the markets, then they have something to say. they start objecting to calling
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him a super villain instead of savior of climate. the world he has been called. let me ask you this, with now financing being put up by apollo and also morgan stanley do you think he takes his ball walks away tomorrow, 4/20 he highlighted? marijuana cannabis day? the number wall street anticipates, at this point, twitter, if you don't have a better offer you have to accept at that point, you're at least pressured too even if you're on the board? neil: i will punt, ray. that could be his plan b, right. >> plan b. neil: i will go a little bit higher. these companies like apollo and others would line up financing, perhaps line it up via collateral he would give of tesla holdings in that event, so what do you think? >> you know might be possible, right? 4/20 is a special day for elon. i think that may be plan b. we might see something around
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that. you know, but look who is behind it, right? got morgan stanley, you got apollo, bravo in the back end. other folks want to be part of taking that twitter. >> silver lake. >> silver lake is the company that wanted to help elon go private. all the forces are gathering together. neil: would he ever raise the money himself? >> he put up, what, $3 billion of his own money, bout 9% of twitter, right? oracle has been floated as well. larry ellison sits on the board of tesla. elon musk has a lot of options. does he want the headache? i think that is the question right now. neil: thank you, guys, very which. we'll watch it closely t could go any which way. we want to pick your brains a little bit later, the push to raise the minimum wage. the lowest wage at verizon will be 20 bucks. the lowest. average is much higher. when we talk about inflation, not only inflation in stock prices here, particularly social media companies, which seem to be near and dear for the
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time-being. then we'll take you to what is going on halfway across the globe right now, that new battle, that new war, what some people are calling putin 2.0 is on in the eastern portion of ukraine and this could be a very, very different war and a much more violent one, if you can imagine that, after this. make thinkorswim® even better, we listen. like jack. he wanted a streamlined version he could access anywhere, no download necessary. and kim. she wanted to execute a pre-set trade strategy in seconds. so we gave 'em thinkorswim® web. because platforms this innovative aren't just made for traders -they're made by them. thinkorswim® by td ameritrade
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neil: all right. what some are calling vladmir putin 2.0, the new war, the ground war, largely to protect putin positions, russian soldiers positions on eastern part of ukraine, that is on right now. we're told up to 2/3 of all the soldiers vladmir putin has are descending on the region, if not already there. let's get the latest from trey yingst in kyiv. trey? reporter: neil, good afternoon. both the russians and the ukrainians have acknowledged a
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new phase of this war started overnight in the eastern part of the country. it comes as communities outside of the capital of kyiv start to survey the damage left in the wake of the russian occupation. yuri walks through a gate leading to his vegetable garden. a few weeks ago he buried his neighbor here after the man was shot dead by russian troops. we covered the grieve with roofing panels because the dogs were digging it up, he says. next to a pile of dirt topped with a wooden cross. yuri explained the russians used machine guns to kill the man next door who was trying to fix a broken gas line on their street. i heard the gunfire. yuri jumped into my backyard and fell over dead. most of borodyanka is in ruins. most residents remain under piles of rubble. recovery efforts slowed as crews
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find unexploded shells amid the debris. the destruction is widespread. russian tanks and artillery units wiped off the map residential blocks where people were living at the time. trying to survive the russian occupation outside of the ukrainian capital of kyiv. you can see here one apartment building that was completely destroyed. he lived on the fourth floor of the complex for nearly 40 years. this is where he raised his family. all that is left of the home now is memories. we had a good life here. our children were born in this apartment. our grandchildren stayed here he says. now we don't know how to go on and where to live. borodyanka was last occupied by nazi germany in 1943. 79 years later the russians did the same, inflicting their own terror on to a innocent population. the collective trauma the
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ukrainians are experiencing will stay with them long after this war ends. you see it in their eyes, hear it in their voices. like this 67-year-old has questions how mankind could be so cruel. i want to speak to the mothers and sisters of russian soldiers and to all the relatives of those criminals, she exclaims. why did you do this to us? for what? are you not even human beings? the words of that woman underscore what the russians did to the ukrainian people. they took away their humanity. borodyanka is just a fraction what happened to the population since the invasion began. neil. neil: thank you, trey. trey yingst in kyiv. go to the general. cliche inhumanity of all of this. obviously now for vladmir putin, this ground campaign this war on the eastern portion of the is be
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all, end all. is this where he is staking the entire war? >> thanks, neil, for have being me. you're absolutely right. this is the culminating event. he lost the first flight around kyiv. his top unit got mauled up there, had to withdraw, refit and reform. he actually lost a second fight. that was the fight in odesa in the black sea when they lost the moskva, which was the black sea flagship of the russian navy. that was hit with two neptune low skimming missiles that were anti-ship mills sills that sunk that ship. now we're in the third fight. this is the culminating fight. he will stake everything on this. he will use conventional tactics that they used to use. a lost art tillry, a lot of infantry. you mentioned earlier 3/4 of the units he got there. i think he committed whole
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russian army there. if he loses this fight this is existential loss for them. nobody will look at russia the same way. nobody will look at the russian army the same way. zelenskyy sees that. my frustration we should have seen this 40 days ago, we're in day 55. giving them the weapons to fight this fight. he doesn't really have the right equipment, zelenskyy doesn't, to fight this fight effectively. what i mean by that, he needs long-range artillery. we gave him 18, 155-millimeter howitzers. we need to give him the rocket launch systems which doubles the range of the artillery. this will be conventional fight. if zelenskyy win this is one, the war is over. neil: what, general, happens, if it is neither a win or, it's a draw but dragged out? wouldn't that be to the detriment of vladmir putin? he would have to find some face-saving gesture to pull out but he has to take with him or
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ownership of the land his troops have already run, won, and zelenskyy will not let him do that. so where is this going? >> well where there is going to go, i think putin is hoping for 9 may, that is the victory in europe day for him, kind of a very important date for him but i don't think zelenskyy will quit anymore. what you're backed into a fight to the death by both parties. zelenskyy is not going to give in and he shouldn't. we should support that. we should support him with every bit of materiel and artillery, aircraft, anything he needs to have a conventional fight. there is an unconventional fight as well. if you look on the maps, he is actually counterattacking in south is important. i got a feeling he is trying to cut off the ukraine. he fighting donbas and fighting in the south ace well. if putin keeps focusing in on donbas he can't be stronger where. he may have, zelenskyy may have an opportune to cut his forces off. it will be interesting to watch over the next 14 days because i
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think the fight is just now joined. we'll see where it goes unfortunately the equipment we give him will not show up for a while. takes a weeks to get in the fight. hopefully they have the equipment to fight the current fight they have got. neil: general, we'll watch it closely. thank you very much, and for your service for this country, sir. we'll be keeping an eye on that, reports we're getting of huge casualties found, civilian victims, not only outside of kyiv but some of these other areas where fighting had gone on. the evidence of brutality is rampant. we'll have more after this.
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crimes and violent crimes increased disproportionately the victims are now black. now analysts say you can connect these case to what is called the ferguson effect, that police are reluctant to get involved. the year mike brown was killed in ferguson, missouri, murders of black people increased by 15%. the following year, freddy gray died in the back after prison transport in baltimore. riots followed. murders of black men followed 12%. george floyd was murdered under the knee after minneapolis police officer. murders of black people jumped 43% over the 10-year average. hannah myers, defund movement backed by city leaders caused police to pull back and criminals to run wild. >> certainly after these large viral incidents, there is a tangible, measurable, police pullback. i think that is not even controversial at this point where police, maybe
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unconsciously are reticent to step in. they know there is big blowback for their involvement in crime. reporter: however jonathan simon of the berkeley school of law says the pandemic was a greater contributor to the rise in violent crime. >> i think given that this was a nationwide phenomenon, we've seen this rise in homicide in every city in the country, not just those with the biggest demonstrations after george floyd. i do think we have to put the pandemic at the center. reporter: you also had criminals with more idle time and police officers out sick. so less manpower. it's a complex problem. laid out in detail today on foxnews.com, neil? >> thank you very much. mike tobin reporting on that. it is a big deal to say we want to push the minimum wage up to 20 bucks an hour. verizon, that is the new floor, that is the minimum wage. there is a new push to say why not this? why not $30 an hour?
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♪. neil: remember when it was such a big deal, the push for $20 an hour? a lot of people said, that's not going to happen. now almost standard fare. verizon, that is the new starting salary, $20 an hour minimum. goes significantly higher than that they're setting sites high every among apple store workers looking for $30 an hour wage. susan li on that, ray wang on that. susan, the 30-dollar push, you know this company very well. you talked to cook a number of times. i'm wondering what is the reception for that? >> you have to remember apple pays their workers pretty well, they make $300 billion in sales each year. 100 billion of that in cold hard profit for the company. i think in this case, in this grand central terminal store here that we're talking about, they're saying they have external factors they need to be compensated for whether it is
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extra missions, you're close to the train station, et cetera. this is something obviously apple is looking at. they told me they are willing to pay the workers more given how much they're making as a company themselves. neil: you know what is interesting too, because it comes with a backdrop, ray, amazon workers voting to unionize at a staten island facility where they were generously compensated at starbucks, which has seen a number of shops go union, where they're really generously compensated. there might be some fire behind this. what do you think of it? >> there definitely is but this wouldn't have happened if we didn't have the inflation that we have today. when you were making 15 bucks an hour before, 31,200. you could save $100 a month, that is 1200 bucks. you owe the credit card 1600 because prices have upon up, right? this will continue a vicious cycle of wage inflation which is really the challenge. at what point does that stop? when you start putting kiosks
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in. start putting automation in. because the human factor is costing more. that is really the scary part behind this. neil: it does spill over to the price of products, right? restaurants will have to pass that along to customers on their menus. i'm sure there is a little bit more of wiggle room for apple, obviously, susan. >> yeah. neil: their prices are already premium level. >> yes. neil: i'm wondering if they feel that if they had to go this route, not that they're looking to, they could absorb it? >> well look, profit margins are 40% at a company like apple, which is extraordinary by the way for a 3 trillion-dollar company. the fact that you know, we have market that is rewarding companies like the big technology players, like apple, microsoft, facebook, are able to raise prices in high inflationary environment and consumers will continue to stick with them. if apple raises prices they will sell 200 million handsets each and every year.
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we're talking about one store here in new york city pushing for unionization. we're not talking across the entire country where they have hundreds of stores. i think we need to put this into context as well. neil: they said that about the one amazon shop at staten island too though. you don't know. it could catch on but you're quite right to put it in perspective. guys, i wanted to real quickly before we go to break get your take quickly with the 10-year note in and out of 3.90%, 2.90%, getting close to that the way we're going here. i'm curious for technology stocks in general, if you think about it, ray, feeling higher rates go worse for them. rates going higher, not bad for them today. what do you make of that? >> well it's true. those are factors in terms how we look at valuations and pes but the metana stocks, microsoft, apple, tesla, nvidia, amazon, those are stocks susan talking about.
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they have scale and margins are huge. if the entire economy is hurting with inflation and interest rates these companies will still do better than everyone else. neil: what do you think, susan? >> inflation hedge we call them. sounds counterintuitive with higher rates, money shifting into government bonds. you point in the volcker years and '70s, '80s, do you know the s&p outperformed inflation? the s&p went up 169% during the time, despite 150% growth in higher prices an inflationary pressures. wall street is betting these companies will do well in this environment. neil: i want to thank you guys very, very much. good perspective what is going on here. wall street we're worried about the backup in interest rates, 10-year note is closing in on 3%, funny way of showing it. nasdaq racing ahead. maybe they're beginning to adjust. dad, we got this.
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muck on the road again -- ♪♪ going places that i've never been. ♪ seeing things that i i may never see again -- neil: all right, i do think when it comes to new hampshire, president biden has seen that before, and he is going to see it again, and he's going there again today he's touting infrastructure spending which some might find ill-timed given the inflation problem we have and that more federal spending certainly will not help that.
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having said that, there is pressure on the president right now if certainly coming from a number of democrats, including a key senator in new hampshire, they've all been telling him title 42 thing, you might want to dial that back or reverse the decision to phase it out in may. nate foy following it all with more. hey, nate. >> reporter: hey, neil. thanks for having me. yeah, in about an hour and 45 minutes, president biden welcome speaking at podium over my shoulder talking about the bipartisan infrastructure law signed back in november. he'll specifically be talking about investing in ports and waterways and how that should ease the supply chain and, hopefully, lower the prices for a variety of goods for americans. one of products that moves in and out of the port here is home heating oil. a big deal here in new hampshire. 40% of households use it to heat their homes during the winter which is ten times the national average. that's according to the 20 the 21 u.s. energy information
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administration report. and as you mentioned, neil, in attendance today is democratic senator maggie hassan who is running for re-election in what is expected to be a very, very competitive race. she's been critical of the biden administration for planning to end title 42 next month which is a trump era pandemic border policy that allows for migrants to be expelled over covid-19 concerns. she wrote on twitter, quote: i just spent two days at our southern border, and it's clear we need to make more investments in personnel, technology and physical infrastructure. of course, fentanyl is a big concern. >> we just found that fentanyl is now the number one cause of death for americans between the ages of 18 and 45. and it's not because americans are taking more drugs, they're actually taking less. it's more dangerous of what's coming across this border. >> reporter: neil, american medical response tells fox news today the two largest cities here in new hampshire,
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manchester and gnash withdraw, have returned to pre-pandemic levels when it comes to opioid overdoses, so certainly a big concern here. neil: nate, thank you very much for that following the president in new hampshireed today where he'll be making these pitches. bill melugin has been talking about some of the things that have been happening including, you know, wave after wave of migrants and now some numbers that that put, finally, a staggering figure to this. about 1 million border arrests in just the past 6 months. and, bill, i would imagine likely to go still higher. >> reporter: yeah, neil. good afternoon to you. those numbers are staggering, and you're exactly right, we are expecting those numbers to shoot up like a rocket shipp. but just here in del rio, this sector had more than 2,300 illegal crossings over the weekend including 57 unaccompanied minors who showed up, and the activity's been busy today. take a look at this video we
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shot earlier this morning in eagle pass, texas. we saw groups of migrants running and jogging down the river bank on the mexican side, apparently afraid of mexican authorities possibly trying to stop them. they run down, eventually they get into the water, and they start crossing illegally into eagle pass. family units,,s some bringing little kids on their shoulders across the water, but this sector alone has seen more than 220,000 illegal crossings just since october 1st. numbers are up 170% over the same time last year. border patrol facilities are overcontrolledded, and for -- overcrowded. take a look at this video we shot here in eagle pass yesterday of some of these mass releases. we were told more than 500 migrants were released at this ngo in eagle pass yesterday. most of them single adults. we saw busload after busload after busload, more than seven in total, and this sort of thing is happening frequently not just here in del rio sector, but also
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down in the rio grande sector. we've shown those images in brownsville. then take a look at this photo out of the el paso sector. a 3-year-old girl was found completely abandoned on the u.s. side of the border. apparently, a cartel smuggler or a guide had brought the little girl over and just left her there, no parents, no guardians whatsoever, and that is not an isolated incident. it happens more and more often at the border. take a listen to what the vp of the border patrol union has to say about these unaccompanied children. >> it's continuing to happen because, again, there is no consequences for individuals coming across our borders. in america where you can't even leave a dog inside a car with the windows rolled up, yet individuals are allowed to turn over their children to drug smugglers, human smugglers, sex traffickers, and at the end are facing zero consequences for it. >> reporter: and, neil, just to put it into perspective how
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bad it is when it comes to the unaccompanied children, in march alone cbp reports they found more than 14,000 unaccompanied kids here at our southern border. that is an 18% increase over the month of february. we'll send it back to you. neil: thank you, bill. and, you know, you were the only reporter reporting on these numbers. even now it's an uphill climb just to put it into perspective. bill melugin. meanwhile, why does a senator from north dakota -- what is a senator from north dakota doing at a board right now? because he's darned worried about what will be happening next month if title 42 goes away. senator john hoeven with us right now. senator, good to have you. you're thered today. why? >> neil, it's really to call attention to what's going on on at the wood -- border. we have our national guard down here. they're doing a tremendous job, but they're already overwhelmed. and if the administration ends public if health order 42,
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that's just going to increase. and they'll lose operational control of the border. we're here in the del rio sector. i've been in the rio grande sector. the del rio sector now is overtaking the rio grande sector the having more encounters with illegals, not to mention gotaways. it's a huge problem only made worse without public if health order 42 if that doesn't continue to be in place. neil: you know, senator, a number of your democratic colleagues are feeling the heat as well. this is a very powerful election year issue. including senator hassan who's going to possibly be with the president in new hampshire today to express her displeasure about him and this title 42 decision. do you think he changes his mind? >> well, we're working very hard to make him change his mind. we have legislation in the senate right now, we have 8
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democrats that have gotten onboard with all the republicans. we need 2 more and we'll have 60 to pass it, so we're trying to put pressure on not only through the legislative process, through congress, but also in the courts we're pressing it as well. and then being down here and calling attention to the problem so9 that the public pushes the administration too. and i'm, you know, obviously i believe we have to push through all these measures because it's not just public health order 42, neil, it's also the remain in mexico policy and the -- [inaudible] those three things would really stop this flow and get it back under control. neil: if i could switch gears despite where you right now are standing, senator, the president will also be pushing more infrastructure spend anding today in new hampshire and that that is the ticket to help the economy and even deal with inflation. what do you think of that? >> well, a big part of the problem with inflation is too much spending. we need to get the democrats to stop spending. and the other thing is energy
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policy, neil. you know this, but with energy pervades every product we produce. and his, the biden energy policy is exactly the wrong policy. we need to take the handcuffs off our energy producers. we can produce a lot more energy, a lot more oil and gas, and that'll have a huge impact on inflation. neil: so what did you think when the president opened some federal land, just a tiny percentage, to oil lease activity but took away 80 of all other lands -- 80% of all other lands that the industry was seeking? >> exactly. again, he puts band-aids on the problem rather than solving the problem. that's a perfect example. so he puts a moratorium on leasing both onshore and off on federal lands because look at the price of gasoline at the pump. it's more than doubled. look at the cost of energy in every single product. then he says, oh, okay, fine. we better take the moratorium off. well, he does it, but it only
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affects 20%, so you're restricting 80% of the land that's available, and then he raises the royalty rates, he raises the leasing costs, so he increases the costs. so, again, his approach is the problem. we need to get him to change it. neil: all right, senator, very good seeing you. and good seeing you at the border. senator john hoeven of north dakota -- >> thanks, neil. neil: -- a long way from the border but coming at a time when those in both parties are saying something has got to be done, because it's going to explode on us if it isn't already exploding. we've got a lot more coming up including new elements to this drama that involves elon musk maybe getting some help to take over twitter. the former big ceo and founder of the company saying, you know what? musk is right about having a dysfunctional board. after this. ♪ ♪ if you change your mind, i'm the first in line. ♪ honey, i'm still free, take a chance on me.
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neil: all right, we're getting a lot of news about some drama
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building around other players sniffing around twitter, willing to help elon musk. elon musk himself open to big push to take the company private, maybe sort of tipping his hand on what that plan b might be. so the guy who has a lot of other muse to report, but i did want to get, real quickly, your thoughts on where this is going. >> "the wall street journal" couldn't wear my -- neil: oh, boy. >> -- finish the sentence. they did steal my story. i reported that private equity was involved. i know, i said that the last time. it didn't stop me -- [laughter] neil: wonderful -- [inaudible] >> i didn't say it. i reported it was private equity, and the names i mentioned were blackstone and and apollo, are crunching numbers because they may want to provide the debt financing for musk. here's the thing, the interesting thing is you still haven't heard anybody saying, hey, i'll go in equity wise with
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him. but what i understand that that at a i a i poll -- apollo in particular, blackstone too, they're out there crunching numbers on this. they would like the senior secured debt. what does that mean? if elon blows this things up, he takes it private, whatever he pays for it, they're out -- neil: well, that's the expectation, that it's going to go up to that. and apollo, that's what they do. >> what they would want to do, blackstone would want to do -- and, by the way, it's not just them, a lot of private equity firms, that was my story, that they rip off -- that's the big problem. so they would take a senior secured position in the lending meaning they have the first lien on the assets if elon fails. so that's where they go on this. and it's particularly attractive for private equity. they like doing this. almost a no-lose because if it blows up -- neil: if it blows up, is it blowing up because he doesn't pursue it -- >> or he just can't turn it
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around. neil: what if he throws in $10, 15, a billion or more -- >> his 56 -- neil: 54.20. >> it's a $43 billion -- neil: a little bit more than 41. >> i heard 43 -- . neil: i read it in the journal, it's 41. >> they get this from me, stop it. [laughter] in any event, you know, he's probably going to have some debt in there too. neil: yeah. >> and you can -- neil: is it gonna happen? >> i, if he writes a real check, if he gets the real debt financing, how do they say no? i've been covering this from day one, since they became, they ipo'd. it ipo'd at, like, $29 was the insider price. don't go by that. the number that it settled that first day was something like 46. 43, 46. it's there now. this thing has not grown.
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so if he's going to offer you close to 60, and you can't -- and, by the way, players have passed on this, how do you say no? it's dereliction of couth by -- duty by twitter to say no. i guess they could come up with something. you know what's funny is how, the lack of business acumen among millennials that cover business now. they're writing about elon musk hike he's some sort of bad guy who can take over twitter, but they have no clue i that twitter is screwing over poor pension fund people, teachers, firemen, working chat people who own the stock -- can class people who own the stock via their pension funds who want the buyout to, essentially, get some value out of this thing which has shown no ability to value under management -- neil: this thing had crashed into the teens for a while. >> it did. that's why this is not a bad deal. and, by the way, don't go by the $73 print in the summer -- neil: the year high. the year low was, what, 33?
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>> something like that. but that's when the fed was printing -- neil: okay. >> you have to ask me about something else, someone told me. >> the yahoo! owner -- >> yeah. neil: they're involved with how far deep does their involvement really go? >> i mean, who knows? i mean, i guess that's an interesting point. if they own the senior secured debt and elon blows up and fails, they could theoretically merger with yahoo!, i could see that, because then they'd take over the business if they got that senior lien on the debt. neil: anything else you want to talk about? >> you wanted to talk about cnn+, i thought -- neil: oh, yes, i did. sorry. trying to keep the family all happy here. cnn+, now some cutbacks that you telegraphed, very, very likely. where's this going? right. >> i mean, i don't think it was a personal if cf if o -- you would expect the cfo to go in a merger. neil: right. but are they dumping it?
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they're not dumping it? >> i can't imagine. hay don't have to dump it. listen, here's the thing, again, millennials don't know this, don't realize that shareholders have rights -- neil: you know, we try to get a younger viewer, but when you say stuff like in this -- >> they don't understand that shareholders have righted. neil: do you think there are older reporters who don't know this? >> some of them who want to be like millennials, and that's not me definitely. here's the thing, neil, they don't understand if you do a merger, you have to get cost savings because shareholders demand that. neil: and zaslav has intimated he needs 3 billion -- >> 3-4. and by the way, malone has it as high as 4 billion. neil: oh, okay. >> what's the lowest hanging fruit if you're going to whack out some savings? >> unless -- neil: unless investments, right? >> yeah, you know, but it's hard. so much else going on, it's hard to justify. and they spent so much money. it was like a really capital intensive effort -- neil: right. >> -- and they're not getting
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much out of it. by the way, streaming is still a rough business. neil: it is. >> it's even rougher for news. no one knows if news can really sell streaming wise, you know? it's more of an entertainment vehicle. so this you go -- neil: we're pretty good at it. >> we hit cnn+, zaslav, zucker, elon musk and jock strap ises. neil: no, no, never said -- [laughter] >> oh, that's right! i didn't until now. neil: i always check my phone to see if legal -- [laughter] but thank you, my friend. great job, as always. charlie gasparino making his final appearance here. [laughter] want to go to -- who can rescue us because pierre follows the housing industry, and he was talking about the interest rates and how that could play into maybe a rush for people looking to buy homes to do so now while the times are, you know, are looking good. that does seem to be the case, the latest housing starts numbers coming in stronger than
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expected and continuing to advance to multi-year highs. so, pierre, what's going on there? do you buy this? is this just a rush to take advantage of rates before they go still higher? what? >> neil, i mean, the first quarter of this year is indicative of the fact that there was a huge rush of demand for everybody wanting to get into the housing market given the fear of rates going up significantly and us potentially never seeing the 2%, 3% range ever again in our lives. and that high anxiety has driven a tremendous amount of demand which has kept up pricing, albeit rates have gone up 1-200 basis points9 in the last 39 months. so what you said -- 9 months. so what you said is completely spot on. the question is what's the second quarter going to look like begin the fact that all these rate losses are coming up and we're now seeing 5 plus percent to- 30-year fixed rate.
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neil: something i like at is home builders and how confident they are to see the good times keep rolling x. and that's been dipping in the latest month yet again. and i'm wondering, not that it's always an accurate reflection of what ultimately occurs, but that they're sort of pulling in their shingles, so to speak. what do you think? >> you know, i think that with pricing high is a lack of supply. if -- so you would think that home building would be something people would be rushing to do given the opportunity and the continued strong demand for housing, but i i think more so than, you know, maybe developers being bearish in terms of the future of the housing market it's the supply chain labor issues that we've encountered. i think it's become extraordinarily difficult to create housing supply given the program parameters that we're -- parameters that that we're living in. any if industry is struggling to find people in the labor market. imagine developers with the9
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income level, you know, with unemployment benefits for a significant period of time, and now we're stuck in a labor shortage across the board. so i think that's really why you're seeing a dip in permits for single-family homes not given a negative outlook on the future of the housing market. neil: then what do you see happening in the hot housing markets? florida comes to mind where they've within seeing double- been seeing double-double jilt increases, the latest -- double-digit increases. i don't seic -- see it like the housing boom we had a couple of years ago. i don't see that, but how do you see it? >> yeah. i mean, we definitely don't have the reckless behavior we add had 14 years ago. that's without question. the demand in areas like florida, you would imagine, would have to show down. florida and texas had the highest growth of new residents into their states in 2020, 2021.
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and largely due to the fact that there's no state income tax, and you can make the argument how they handled pandemic and remaining open during a time where other states had severe lockdowns. so you would imagine that demand in those areas would slow down as time goes on. but, you know, that's to be seen in terms of how long the ruckus that was caused by covid and created the pandemonium in the market continues for. i'll tell you, neil, one thing i'm seeing is the ripple effect on rental market. you know, multi-family development and demand for rentals is at an all-time high. so you had not only the highest appreciation of housing in any given year take place last year, but you're also having historic levels of rental increases given the fact that people can't afford to buy. and that trend is going to continue, and as that trend continues pushing people to hoeg them the idea that they can relocate given the fact that they're priced out of the
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housing market, we'll see. neil: all right. pierre d can ebbas, great catching up with you. uncanny read of what's happening in housing right now. have any of you ever been to walt disney world? did you know that it has its own fire department, police department, it operates as a separate government within the sunshine state. it's true. well, the governor of florida has had enough of that sort of, you know, lone behavior there and right that exists for a company unlike any other in the sunshine state. the lieutenant governor on what the governor wants to do and the impact on the mouse house, after this. ♪ ♪ hi, ho, hi-ho, it's off to work we go ♪♪
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neil: all right, the ground war, especially in eastern ukraine, is on as russian forces triple in some areas. we're told that upwards of two-thirds of all available russian systemed soldiers have been flanked out to these regions of the country, that they already have a lock on as we speak, and now they want a soll lock on it. but -- solid lock on it. all of this escalation has prompted the international monetary fund to announce it's cutting global growth, all because of the escalating war in ukraine, to about 3.6% this year. that is down sharply from the 4.5% growth the imf was looking at a little more than a but months ago. and the 6.1% it was predicting last year at this time. so it's all but been cut in half. let's go to the former uss cole commander who telegraphed a lot of what we're seeing right now, and it's going to get pretty ugly, i guess, isn't it, commander? >> neil, it is.
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what you're actually seeing reit now is the fight for the -- right now is the fight for the soul of ukraine. when you look at that industrial area in the donbas region, and president certificate hen sky rightly -- zelenskyy rightly referred to it as the battle of donbas, you're going to see russia i throw everything they have to solidly take it and then begin that drive down that eastern corridor trying to create that land bridge to crimea. and then they will begin to swing westward again along the coast, cutting ukraine off completely from the sea of azov and the black sea. taking that entire area isolates ukraine which is going to be one of the last things that we want to see happen because it is critical for them to be able to keep some goods coming in and out of that maritime corridor to the south. neil: what if the goals of vladimir putin are a lot more subdued than that in that that he already has control of this region, for the most part, commander?
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he could lock it down now and then go back to president zelenskyy and say i've added this country, but i'm keeping what i want just like i kept crimea more than a dozen years ago, i keep these lands on the eastern portion of the country, i leave with more of ukraine than i came in with? >> neil, i think that's one of the greatest fears that the united states, nato and countries around the world should have. vladimir putin should not be rewarded, especially given the ruthless nature with which he has disregarded international law and any vestige of humanitarian concern. he should not be given 1 inch of ukrainian territory, much less gain more. and as a matter of fact, i think he should be completely cut back and pushed out of ukraine. the sanctions that are in place today regardless of where russia ends up should remain in place until they are completely out. pleasure this was a whole country -- this was a whole country, and for him to invade
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without provocation -- and, yes, some people say look at it from russia's side is, there is no excuse efficient vegas, he -- invasion. we need to give ukraine the lethality, the weapons and the standoff distances necessary so that they can take the fight to the russians and push them all the way to the border but not 1 inch into russia proper. neil: we'll have to see how it all pans out. kirk lip bold, former uss cold commander, who's seen a lot of this before anyone the did, way before 9/11 with the attack on his ship and the great men and women on it. in the meantime, this battle of words and much more wean the florida governor, ron desantis, and the folks at disney world. disney world, of course, is the single biggest employer in the state of of florida. it's so successful that it has complete autonomy to the point right now it has its own, you know, prison force, its own fire force -- police force. it is essentially its own
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because the entertainment powerhouse has opposed legislation in the state, what some call the don't say gay law, it has incited the wrath of the governor of florida because he claims that this is not nearly what it's been presented to be, certainly, by disney which has now threatened to withhold political campaign contributions in florida, and this is the law that the governor says really is meant to teach issues on sexual identity and all of that. but not when you're many in kindergarten to the third grade, you're way too young to be getting this type of education, and therein lies the back and forth. let's get the read from the lieutenant governor of florida, jeanette nunez, kind enough to join us right now. governor, this is a battle of gargantuan mares. obviously, disney a major employer in your state. but what if they decide to play hardball?
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what do you think and where do you think this goes? >> well, really, neil, playing hardball isn't the question here. this is about what's doing right for floridians. and so when the governor included the issue of the districts as part of the discussions that they will be having this week during special session, it's about leveling the playing field. no other private corporation has the benefits of ownerring as its own governmental body. imagine the horrors of having to deal with the county's building department, trying to get a permit every time you're going to add to your park. so they've operated under this district with really very special privileges that no other private corporation has. and so the governor and many members of the legislature have questioned why disney has that special privilege compared to say, for example, universal studios. so so this is going to be a policy discussion, and it really is nothing more than that. neil: well, it was in -- it wasn't questioned before the company expressed concerns about this parental rights in
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education bill, the so-called don't say gay law, and if that hadn't come up, none of this would have happened, right? >> when disney decided to engage in what we were trying to accomplish, empowering parents and making sure that kids at a very young age -- we're talking kindergarteners to third gradere indock try indoctrinated, all those things that i think the vast majority of parents believe should not be taught in the classroom, disney obviously reared its ugly head, and and then they doubled down and they said on top of that they were going to work actively to repeal the legislation are. and so many members of the legislature were the first ones to question why is disney allowed to operate without any if consideration for what other companies have to follow in terms of rules, regulations and things of that nature? neil: all right. in your gut, governor, do you think this exemption's going to
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go away? disney could alls come along and say we're going to emphasize disneyland over disney world. you obviously don't think that's going to happen, but where do you see this going? >> well, i think that it'll be a very interesting debate that the legislature will have. i believe that there is an appetite to be able to rescind this district and allow for them to make their case. certainly, there's an opportunity to come back before the legislature, a3r50u6 -- prove why it's necessary, prove why it is important for the benefit of floridians. but, again, i think it ultimately has to come down to what's in the best interests of floridianss, not what's in the best interest withs of corporations. this will clearly have its day. it will be debate, discussed, there'll be all kinds of back and forth, but i think that, ultimately, what the legislature will do, i believe that they will rescind it, and we'll see where it goes from there. neil: so if they, disney world, you know, disney, the parent
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company, were to say, all right, we won't be fighting this. we're not keen on this new law, but we won't be fighting it, will that be enough? because they could turn around and say we generate a great deal of revenue from florida, floridians benefit from our exemptions, what do you say? >> so, clearly, those that are in the decision making process in the legislative body, they'll have to decide what is the right course of a action. but, again, i don't want to put the two issues head to head because i my that there is something to be discussed. -- i think that there is something to be discussed. why should a corporation have special privileges that no other corporation has in this state? neil: well, they, as you know, governor, turn it around and say because no other company generates the interest, the money or revenue that we do. >> well, i think, certainly are, universal studios would like to argue that they are perhaps not
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on par, but pretty close to it. they have a lot of tourism that comes to their parks. whether it's on par or not, i think the important thing is i think floridians should demand to know why is there a special privilege that no other corporation has given to this company in particular, and who's next? when somebody else comes to -- . neil: but resining that privilege would go if they -- resindhinging this privilege would go if they stop fighting that law? do i interpret that correctly? >> no, i don't think so. clearly, they've made their statement as it relates to this law, and one thing, again, the two are not the same. i think that there will be a discussion,s and legislature will agree to adopt or not adopt this particular legislation. and so those conversations, they will probably continue on for a long time. parents rights in education, i think that their silence as it relates to joining the lawsuit is telling. but i also think that there is an appetite to discuss this rescinding of this ticket
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regardless. neil: that's a fascinating development. lieutenant governor of the beautiful state of florida, jeanette nunez. we'll be following this. also following places like florida where they're getting rid of the mask requirements. if traveling certainly by plane, those days are gone thanks to a judge's ruling that the cdc went too far demanding it. the fall fallout from it, after this. ♪ ♪ catching my breath, letting it go -- ♪ turning my cheek for the sake of show. ♪ now that you know this is my life -- ♪ i won't be told if it's supposed to be right ♪♪ you're a one-man stitchwork master. but your staffing plan needs to go up a size.
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there's rooms they're not going to appeal, but -- rumors, but they're simply rumors. we'll have to wait to see what the justice department is going to do. s it is fascinating to me. we talked about the federal mask mandate, but we've heard from from port authority which governs laguardia, jfk, the port authority bus terminal, they say masks are still going to be required. chicago o'hare, they're still keeping them. but hartsfield in atlanta, they're not. if you're traveling, it could be with very confusing. of course, all of this will get sorted out likely in the next few days. it all depends on what the government will do. the latest mask mandate was set to expire in early may. president biden had, tend it multiple times saying it was public health officials that had the right to decide, but the judge strongly disagreeing, writing in her ruling yesterday that the mandate exceeded the cdc's statutory authority, impo-
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and failed to adequately explain its decision. so the white house came out right away yesterday saying it was disappointed, and it's still reviewing the response, as a i mentioned. but passengers appear to be thrilled with all of this. we're hearing from people at airports nationwide. >> i'm for it. i think it's time to edge. -- to en. i think it's time that we just move on. >> i'm thrilled. it's about time. this should have been over a long time ago. >> reporter: but delta admits things could be a little bit confusing. they put out a statement saying you may experience inconsistent enforcement as this news is broadly communicated. remember to show understanding and patience with others. so even the airlines are prepping people, if you're going to be flying today, the rest of this week, odds are there may be some people still confused and maybe with good reason. also want to mention, lyft and
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uber bringing down their mask mandates, but some people are saying the app is still requiring you say you have a mask on when you get in the car. for what it's worth, i didn't water water a mask this morning -- wear a mask this morning, the driver didn't say anything, but maybe he just liked you. neil: well, there is a policeman behind you who's waiting to take you away. [laughter] i'm kidding. >> reporter: you made me look. neil: i did. fox across america host, so much more, e did get a kick, jimmy, the one woman who was relieved to hear the mask mandate went away -- [laughter] >> literally wearing it and sharing it. certain people are still in favor. here many new york at port authority, they're keeping the mandate still in place. a lot of meth fans -- [laughter] stop it. we've all seen this movie, neil. neil: i hear you. what do you think of that? you could say that it was one, you know, judge overturning
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this. that's power. but it could be another judge slaps it right back on, and we're going through this all over again. >>st that's what's so infuriating. scientifically, it doesn't mean to be there. most people would argue, i think the commercial airline ceos testified the hepa filters are so thorough, what you are catching on a plane is a beating. every -- over 700 mask-relate brawls just this year. there have been so many fights, you could make a brad pitt spin-off called flight club -- [laughter] that's what we're live living in. neil: but you have to deal with this even on private jets. >> you stop it. compare me to you? fox flies me stowaway -- [laughter] mr. cavuto needs two seats. neil: oh, listen. >> stop it. neil: you know what's so weird about? obviously, all the airline stocks are running up because
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they think it's going to be a boom for business. i find this a bit of a stretch, but maybe that's why, because it's such a hassle if you have to wear the mask. would it be? >> yes. for two reasons. one, there's just so much anger on a plane because there's already no dignity in coach. you you fly coach, you fly assistant coach -- [laughter] neil: listen to you it's true -- >> neil: you're up there with the pilot. >> would you stop it? there's that level of agitation that exists because there's two things in play. most flight attendants did not sign up to be a hall monitor. at the same time, there are some that'll wake you up. somebody woke my son up in the middle of the night. my kid is 5. [laughter] i can't take him -- you make hi. i think it might help. there's something called a smile. do you remember seeing smiles when you got onto a plane in. neil: yeah. it's not changed for broadway shows, i think you have to wear a mask through, i think, the end
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of next month. that kind of stuff stays. >> that's why there's no consistency, and that's the part i can't get behind. neil: well, hopefully, you can deal with it. [laughter] the crowd that you address, if you all have masks on -- >> the people i hang out with, like, covid could be the best hinge that ever happened to them. [laughter] neil: family hoe here. [laughter] we did that so damn quick. all right, we have a lot more coming up. the dow racing up now 416 points. stay with us. [laughter] ♪ lighten up while you still can. ♪ don't even try to understand. ♪ just find a place to make your stand and take it easy ♪♪ (vo) while you may not be closing on a business deal while taking your mother and daughter on a once-in-a-lifetime adventure —
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charles: thank you very much, neil. good afternoon, everyone. i'm charles payne this is "making money." breaking right now, today's market moves might be counterintuitive, right? if you think of everything going on. the buy signals are there. they have been flashing beneath the surface. then there is this. >> return of the mask mandate -- >> yeah. >> if you choose to you may remove your mask.

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