olberman for the hour hosted by the fired chris cuomo. >> how did they come up with these two. what is yule logbook. put on the yule log, you will get ratings. it's a real fire instead after dumpster fire of the network they have. dagen: that is an insult to dumpster fires. i would sit next to a dumpster fire before watching that. "the evening edit" -- elizabeth: breaking right now, president biden claims he knows nothing about his son hunter's business deals. that gross weaker by the day. fox reported that the hunter biden's business partner visited the white house way more than realized, at least 27 times. joe biden hired an employee from hunter's own investment firm to work with us. james cat greg murphy, james comer, ken starr, gop strategist ford o'connell, fox news

contributor for bore, vice president of the national border patrol council, art del cueto. court losses piling up. he blocked biden from ending title 42. but even the white house admits would trigger the size of sacramento trying to cross each month. biden could also face another court loss at the supreme court for breaking a border policy he voted for as a senator. battle over elon musk's twitter take over is just beginning. the media is in melt down mode. they're contradicting themselves on censorship. special counsel john durham slams hillary clinton's team for trying to block in court hundreds of their leaks to the media to get the media to report hillary's unverified debunked trump-russia collusion. they're claiming, stretching attorney/client privilege here. we have a big fight at the supreme court. it could hit all sports. is it not okay to kneel in prayer at a high school football

game, but okay to kneel against the flag during the national anthem? a new alarming development in biden's border collapse that undercuts the white house narrative. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. start with your money, stocks in the red. down more than 2%. nasdaq down nearly 4%. it is on track for the worst month since 2008. russia, let's turn to russia-ukraine, lashing out at west. the pentagon denying it is engaging in a proxy war arming ukraine. we have more than 100,000 u.s. troops in europe. also this, russia rattles the world t shot missiles at low altitude over europe's largest nuke cheer power plant. this is the zaporizhzhia plant in southern ukraine. we brought you the story over a month ago that russia was doing this to rattle the world.

it is still doing it, threatening nuclear power plants. now this the white house is holding a phone call with dhs secretary mayorkas and senators about the border. this happened today. the white house hit with another major court loss over biden's border policies. now mark meredith is at the white house with more. mark? reporter: good evening, lists beth. the white house says it expect as large number of people to try to cross into the united states once title 42 is lifted but the administration says it has a plan. it is outlining through a memo released today what it plans to do once people try to cross into the country. includes increasing number of personnel resources dispatched to the border. trying to speed up the time for customs and border patrol processing. imposing consequences for unlawful entry. charities are set up to help non-citizens getting through customs and border protection. white house press secretary jen psaki however this is only one step the administration is taking. title 42 as a health policy not as an immigration measure.

>> cdc health experts of course do have the authority to make a decision about. they made the decision that the conditions no longer exist to keep title 42 in place. reporter: but it is still unclear how fast title 42 may be lifted. a federal judge in louisiana issued a temporary retraining order on monday that could delay plans to end the policy in late may. meantime don't expect to vice president kamala harris at the white house for the next several days. because her office said she tested positive for covid-19. the vice president not considered a close contact of president biden because the two have not interacted in the last couple days. harris spent the last couple days out in california. elizabeth. elizabeth: mark, great reporting. thanks for joining us. back with us ranking member of house homeland security, congressman john katko with, national border patrol council vice president, art del cueto. thanks for joining us. what is the reaction to the court loss for biden? his court losses are piling up.

they tossed his masks for public transit. what did you think when you heard the story? >> good news title 42 may not be revoked but make no mistake about it this administration is trying to do everything they can to revoke title 42 and hide behind the cloak centers for disease control is behind it, that is bunch of bull. the centers for disease control can be influenced by the president of the united states. they already said that they want title 42 dom into and it is at a high and dangerous level. elizabeth: to the congressman's point, art, by the way biden is hitting the role to sell a midterm message. democrats are expected to lose congress. border officials i think they use title 42 to turn away migrants 1.7 million times. art, you and i talked about this, even with title 42, 2 1/2 million tried to cross. nearly 840,000 got-aways. bide, the white house is saying they would hit be illegal

border-crossers the size of atlanta, georgia, even without title 42. even they are say this. what are they doing? >> when they need to be doing to figure out what worked before. the policies that were in place before they took over the had our borders secure. border patrol agents had the opportunity to go in the borders to stop the flow of illegal drugs. now here they are, concentrating once again on just title 42. so they're making sure that people do not focus on the amount of drugs that are entering the country. they need to stop playing word gapes. they need to start doing something that actually works. what worked was under the last administration. elizabeth: we're just a generation from 9/11, right, corning man? you've got dhs secretary will testify this week before your committee. we already had more than four dozen house republicans sending him a letter saying he is not fit for the job. what do you want to ask him? >> i will ask him about a

budget. supposed to be about the budget. clearly the two most significant threats to our country are cybersecurity and the southern border. i'm quite certain that the southern border will dominate the discussion and rightfully so. 23 members from the terror watch list were seized at the border last year. stands to reason an equal number got there. this border is on fire. they have created this. they want these people to come across and all they're saying about how many people they will put down on the border is a drop in the buck the can. nowhere near will equal the surge. they expect as many as 18,000 people coming across the border to lose operational control. that is why border security for america act which i introduced, which the border patrol council strongly backs is going to be a solution. when we get into power next year, that bill will be front and center and we'll be ready to role roll with it. elizabeth: what the congressman is saying the gop is ready to roll. supreme court majority is skeptical of the white house.

the majority, here are the arguments, biden broke the law when he ended trump's remain in mexico. senator biden, senator biden voted for that in 96. the justices are saying the white house is rubberstamping illegals to cross. this is breaking administrative law. this is catch-and-release on steroids. the white house message something bad. show how the white house is misleading accusing twitter and elon musk censoring information. white house doing topspin here. what is your take that the supreme court majority is now saying? they're skeptical of the white house. >> i have spoken down here with the chief when he was down here on patrol. they said their concern wasn't got-aways right now. they're trying to do something humanitarian but reality is part of being humanitarian is making sure that the numbers of gotaways are looked at. that the individuals that are claiming asylum are looked at. the way you do that, you bring

asylum judges, immigration judges down at the border. you stop creating that magnet and telling people all you have to do is did for asylum and you will be relessed that needs to stop. doesn't matter how many more individuals they put down there to process. you need agents to work in between the borders to start arresting individuals, sending them back, prosecuting those breaking our nation's laws. elizabeth: congressman, what art just said, can you take this on? because the pushback against strengthening the border, hispanic caucus, other caucuses saying this is humanitarian issue but border patrol officials like art repeatedly told us it is not humanitarian the way they're conducting border security now. thousands of migrants are getting killed trying to cross illegally. they're getting dragooned by human and drug traffickers to do criminal and illegal activities to put themselves in danger. we see images, they're graphic, what is going on at the border,

what the drug cartels are doing to illegal immigrants. it is not humanitarian. what do you say? >> mr. del cueto is absolutely right. the biden administration created the magnet for people to come across. they talk about the humanitarian aspect of that. when they refer to that individuals from the non triangle and mexico but the fact of the matter is, people from over 160 countries, 160 countries have come across the border in the last year. this isn't a humanitarian crisis. bad people and people from all across the world are exploiting our southern border, biden sent out the open sign. that is what is going on. before we wrap i want to say bishop evans is a great example of the chaos at the border. he was a texas national guardsmen there at the border because the border is out of control and texas had to send more people there. he died trying to rescue two people coming across. turns out the two people coming across and lived were drug traffickers carrying drugs across the border carrying our children in the united states. how bizarre is that situation?

how wrong is this administration. elizabeth: thank you for your time you spent with us congressman katko. art del cueto. thanks for joining us. we'll have you back on soon. this battle, this fight is ramping up. elon musk's takeover is just beginning the fight. the media far left meltdown is in over drive. they're contradicts themselves on censorship. we have the story. following breaking news. hunter biden's business partner visited the obama white house and vice president bide was there more than realized. the white house raising fears of twitter censorship after musk buys twitter. critics say they were okay censoring the hunter laptop scandal. the latest is next on "the evening edit." >> it is indeed a win for spree speech. jack dorsey figured out from the hearings he held he had to testify that the days of letting twitter run amok and censor people, those are over.

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been doing. they were showing no transparency with their censorship of conservatives. that is will change. elizabeth: they booted off doctors, zionists they disagree with. got rid of babylon buy. brought up trump russia and hunter biden laptop. jeff bezos is getting mocked for trying to troll musk, asking if china may use leverage over musk when bezos amazon censored negative reviews by a book by communist leader xi xinping. amazon is trying to for a decade to get into china for its business. democrats like elizabeth warren going crazy. jack dorsey, twitter cofounder say elon musk is the fix here. what do you think? >> agree with dorsey and appreciate him saying that. we had this discussion many times over the last 12 months. i don't know if you could fix

the problems facebook and twitter have legislatively. as republicans and conservatives we should have less government regulation and less compliance. we had a company clearly censoring conservatives. the solution, the company wasn't making money. shareholders were not happy. along comes a conservative businessman who wants to protect free speech and do that in a transparent manner. that i think is the ultimate solution to the problems with twitter. that is ultimate solution to the frustration conservatives have. now i hope something like this happens with facebook. elizabeth: congressman, we're hearing from sources at cnn and msnbc, workers who work there, that cnn and msnbc literally used twitter to shape their news content, to shape what they're going to report during the day, they go to twitter. that means they have been an echo chamber of hysteria a feedback loop of hysteria. that is how msnbc and cnn run tear business model. it is not news.

writing to the headline. it is not journalism. watch this. watch what is going on. >> it is not enough for the richest man in the world to try to replace agencies like nasa and send people to near space. he also wants to control what he calls the town square. >> i don't think anyone disagrees it should be a free open debate and platform but should it be necessarily a font for misinformation? >> elon musk buying twitter says a lot about the priorities of people at the highest levels making decisions that could affect the fate of the planet. >> if you own all of twitter or facebook, what have you, you don't have to explain yourself. you don't even have to be transparent. you could secretly ban one party's candidate or all of its candidates, all of its nominees or you could secretly turn down the reach of their stuff and turn up the reach of something else. the rest of us might not even find out about it until after the election. elizabeth: well, wake-up call is ringing off the hook for ari member, the rest of them. what is going on with they're

reporting at msnbc and cnn? media and far left, they want to monopolize speech, we get that debate. they hate elon musk. they can't control him. nothing about twitter swaying elections, hunter biden stories, ramping up russia. msnbc has only regular folk to fact check, tell the truth? did msnbc talk to elon musk, did musk tell them he will push back efforts to moderate content or is this my opinion is facts, my thoughts are facts anything i say is true, even if i didn't call the fact check, what i tell thousands of viewers. it is such nonsense and absurd the poison msnbc and cnn is pouring into the national conversation and how torqued and twisted they made it. >> the hypocrisy of the left never cease to amaze me. this is another example of their hypocrisy. they will not have twitter to get their backs anymore. to go along conspire with the left-wing propraganda. this is a good thing they were fine with censoring

conservatives. now they're scared to death of free speech. they don't want a level playing field. they dominated the media for a long time. things are changing. seeing that with cnn with the hemorrhaging of viewers. it's a new day. msnbc and cnn will have to change their business model. elizabeth: here's the thing, let me back up, twitter and facebook exist on emotion. they want to keep you emotionally engaged. they keep you emotionally engaged with hysteria and fear, yes, misinformation. that has got to stop. the way people are engaged to have thoughtful, nuanced reporting and facts, journalism. not the hysteria you see on networks, not hysteria you see on twitter. maybe musk will clean that up. maybe it will level the playing field before the next election. that is what it is about. congressman comer. good to have you on. come back. another fight at the supreme court. this one might hit all sports. we're talking the nfl, basketball, women's soccer. is it not okay to neil in prayer at a high school sports game but

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elizabeth: look who is back with us, former independent counsel ken starr. ken, we love having you back on.

good to see you. this supreme court fight, right? it is now hearing arguments about this public high school teacher, a former high school teachers right? he is from washington state. he is suing for the right to kneel and pray at mid field an, on the field after his high school football games. where do you come down on this? this is really, it's a free speech fight and runs right up against the separation of church and state. >> right. yeah. very important case, matching the free exercise of religion and free speech as you say. prayer is a form of speech, obviously it is the free exercise of religion. and that needs to be protected. i think the supreme court is very likely to protect coach kennedy's right to engage in private prayer as long as there is no coercion. that is the key. no coercion of anyone, certainly of the players involved. and while there are different factual iterations got a little complex and messy as cases sometimes do, the real court

issue is, did the state, did the school district need to step in and say, coach, stop this after the game prayer or else we will be accused of embracing and endorsing your prayer. we will become violators of the constitution and i don't think the court is going to accept that at all. as long as there is no coercion. elizabeth: a are game as forum for religious beliefs? the bremerton school district say the coaches prayers are technically optional but they're pressuring students to join. that could be considered school endorsement of the school for religion, against constitution and supreme court cases. >> it would be but the way the case comes to the court, there was no coercion cited by the school district in firing or not renewing coach kennedy's contract. i know there has been a lot of noise about coercion. we all agree if there is coercion there is serious

problem in terms of infringing the rights of others but that is not what the school district said. the school district said if we don't put a stop to this we're endorsing or embracing this practice. we will be seen as essentially supporting christianity or your religious faith. that is what i think the supreme court justices, clear majority are saying, no. you don't have to censor everything, you don't want to embrace in order to avoid the constitution. this is a private action by an individual -- elizabeth: doing it on the field. he is doing it on the field. that is what justice sotomayor is saying. >> there is no question. elizabeth: you know what i mean? so it is on school property. that is where the conflict is? >> but he is doing that again in a private capacity that, is it him or is it the government that is leading the prayer? there is no microphone. there is no use of the public address system and the like. so can he speak in that context after the game is over. there are no coaching

activities. >> can you square this with the nfl anthem protests where players were kneeling and womens soccer they were kneeling during the anthem? how do you square that? >> well, first of all those are of course private teams and we're here talking about a public school. so that is the clear distinction. it is really up to the team owners, coaches and so forth as opposed to here we're talking about government use of government power, either to support or to suppress. and here i think that the goal of the government should be neutrality. we're not encouraging coach kennedy to do this but we're not not stepping in to say coach, you cannot do this to live out your faith in the way you want to do. elizabeth: ken starr, thanks for joining us. good to see you. come back soon, okay? >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: we're coming into the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. we have new alarming developments that undercut the biden white house narrative about the border claiming that it is about being humanitarian. the fbi says illegal

border-crossers are increasingly targeted for kidnapping, extortion and other major crimes and abuses. that's ahead. but first, special counsel john durham slams hillary clinton's team for trying to block in court hundreds of their leaks to the media to sell and push the media to report hillary's now debunked unverified trump russia. what this means for a trial less than a month away. we dig in next on "the evening edit". the right mo. get decision tech. for insights on when to buy and sell. and proactive alerts on market events. that's decision tech. only from fidelity.

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♪. elizabeth: joining us now, gop strategist, ford owe connell. ford, always great to have you back on. more and more we read through special counsel john durham's motions and court filings, the more the trump russia story is less about trump than hillary's lust for power. there is a new court motion. how is it attorney/client privilege energies is what clinton team is saying, they're trying to block in court, block

away from john durham, hundreds of their leaks to the media but, when hillary was trying to push, and her team were pushing now debunked russia, they're claiming this was legal advice protected under attorney/client work privileges. how is that? >> that is exactly john durham's argument, it isn't. what john durham is saying this is bogus claim of attorney/client privilege and if you look how the fusion gps stories were pedaled to the media about false trump russia narrative, they didn't have any lawyers cc'd on the emails. they were haphazardly mails. if this was truly client privilege they would take a step using more care disseminating e-mails to the media. if john durham wins this will be a watershed moment in the investigation. elizabeth: fusion gps were releasing, they were not selling

legal advice to hillary clinton, they were like hitman doing the work for the clinton team. hillary's hired help at fusion gdp push this raw, unverified, debunked hillary trump-russia collusion to "the new york times," abc, "the wall street journal," "the washington post," "slate" magazine, and then they claimed here's the rub, ford, hillary's team was telling these reporters that the government was investigating trump russia, that they cooked up as they were trying to get the fbi and cia an doj to go after trump. do you see that there, what they were doing? this is conspiracy, feels like. >> this is conspiracy but to your point, clinton campaign basically sent the fbi and cia on a wild goose chase knowing full well the data they were proffering as evidence was completely manufactured out of thin air but they had the gall to go do this, entire time we realize there was no trump-russia collusion and it was completely debunked.

in fact it was a motion. they're circling the wagons to cover up the tracks on the travesty they tried to pull on the media and the american people. elizabeth: durham, john durham, special counsel is basically saying michael sussman, hillary campaign outside lawyer entrapped himself. that hillary's team is entrapping themselves. they claim attorney/client privilege but they're they're correcting themselves. this undercuts sussman's claim telling fbi he was not working for anyone, meaning he was not working for hillary's campaign, when sussman denied to the fbi he was representing anyone. now they're claiming attorney/client privilege. they're entrapping themselves. >> that is exactly right. sussman misrepresented himself in effort to push the trash russia hoax narrative, didn't forget, intentionally didn't tell people who he was working for. now he is trying to cover his tracks, hide behind attorney/client privilege for something that didn't require

attorney klein privilege. they will continue to play the game. if durham breaks through, this will be a huge moment. he have will be able to bring in additional evidence and move his way up the food chain which i think eventually will point to one hillary clinton. elizabeth: if blows through this, if durham blows through this, right, if he pushes back and wins here, then you're going to see this conspiracy with hillary clinton and her team did. durham is basically saying that clinton lawyer mark elias, he can't be taken seriously either. that they hired fusion gps for only legal advice when fusion and hillary clinton team was pushing to the fbi, cia, the media to go after trump. the other thing is, when fusion and the hillary team is leaking this to the media doesn't that waive their right to claim attorney/client privilege? >> it seems that would indeed to be the case. or they never intended it to the first place or sent it out to the general media they would waive it. remember the clinton campaign,

dnc already being fined by it. c claiming certain things are legal work product when in fact they were not. they're trying to bastardize attorney/client privilege to hide themselves to short-circuit this investigation. elizabeth: i'm telling you cnn and other networks don't cover this, this is national tragedy. take out the words hillary clinton, obama, trump, biden, take out all those names and you look at the facts of what unfolded, what happened in the runup to the election it's a national disgrace that our fbi, doj was politicized and cia was almost roped into it to go do the work of a political team to go after a political rival. we've got fbi sources consistently saying to us, ford, i want your final word on this, they are disgusted and shocked at what happened with the fbi d.c. office under james comey. it should been in the new york office, the trump tower is here in new york. and it was politicized the

second it went to d.c. they are disgusted and shocked. it is a disgrace and should never happen again. your final word. >> this is one of the biggest critical tragedies in modern political history, the fact that the government was weaponized against a candidate for president who was lawfully to be there but they didn't want him to win and now the media doesn't care because their preferred candidate lost. that is it what happened here. elizabeth: ford, good to see you. come back soon. we're following breaking news, hunter biden's business partner fox news is reporting visited the white house more than realized when joe biden was vice president. fears of censorship after elon musk buys twitter. twitter says they were okay completely fine with censoring the hunter biden laptop story. we're digging in next on "the evening edit." >> musk's decision to buy twitter should be welcome to everyone far left voices who are hell didn't on censoring

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elizabeth: stay on the news with fox news contributor, deneen borelli. deneen, president biden claims he knows nothing about his son hunter's business deals. he is reporting that hunter biden business parter eric schwerin visited the white house when biden was vice president 27 times? that was eight more than we knew about. biden hired away from hunter's rosemont seneca investment firm, to work at white house, ann pierson. a personal assistant. this is kind of falling apart over there, no? >> well, you would think it's falling apart. i hope more and more information comes out about all of the misdoings alleged to have happened. but look, look at the laptop, for example, that should be all in the headline news all day long with hunter biden. yes, he is being investigated over the laptop. but it shouldn't, but it should also be joe biden investigated as well.

because there are allegations that hunter exploited then vice president biden for financial gain. and we all know that joe biden was a fraud and a liar before he got to washington d.c. and his son hunter has learned from the best, liz. elizabeth: so the press secretary is going after elon musk for buying twitter, the white house, but they're not taking questions about hunter biden's business deals and president's involvement in that. watch what is going on. watch this. >> the president has long been concerned about the power of large social media platforms, power they have over our everyday lives. long argued tech platforms must be held accountable for the harm they cause. >> "new york post," visitors log, 19 visits by the hunter biden's business partners, including one with the vice president. can you understand why that business partner had access, what the meetings were about? >> i don't have any information on that. i will check to see if anymore

comments. >> coronavirus? china and terrorists potentially, speak about anything that president biden has done to determine the source of the coronavirus with china? elizabeth: so i guess now the mo, walk out if you don't like the questions. media research center, deneen, found 646 times where big tech censored negative stories about biden. 140 were about the "new york post" hunter biden laptop story. >> yes, saki looked like joe biden when he leaves the podium. all you see is the back of his head, right? the media has done a disservice for americans and there are polls out there that say that voters may not have supported joe biden had they been aware of all of the allegations that happened within biden, inc., within the biden family. so you have the white house playing upon peoples fears, just flat-out lying. will we ever really get to the bottom, the truth of anything that has happened with this

family? i don't know if that's the case because the democrats protect their own. elizabeth: we've got that grand jury, justice department probe into hunter biden in delaware about potential tax evasion, money laundering and more. that is still ongoing. watch attorney attorney merrick garland talking about this today in washington. watch this. >> do we need a special prosecutor to look into that? >> so, as you know the investigation is being run and supervised by the united states attorney in delaware who is an appointee from the previous administration, continues on as the united states attorney. the question of whether to have a special counsel is one that internal decision making in the department. so i don't want to make any judgments one way or the other but i'm quite comfortable with the united states attorney, for that district continuing in the role that he is playing.

>> look likes they will not stop the doj probe into hunter biden. your final word on that? >> well, look, i do hope they get to the bottom of this, liz, but you know, hunter is the precious with joe biden. who knows how much the prosecutor is being leaned on and by who. there should be a special counsel put on to this case because we need answers and hunter, with these allegations need to be held accountable. that were you, me, anyone else, we would be held accountable for sure. elizabeth: all right, deneen borelli, thanks for joining us. it is good to have you on. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: come back soon. we've got new and disturbing developments in biden's border collapse that undercuts the white house narrative. it's a new fbi report that reveals border-crossers are being abused and targeted by criminal border cartels. we've got the story next on "the evening edit." >> we've got to stop the drugs and the human trafficking flowing into this country

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the fbi is now if warning trans-national criminal cartels and gangs are increasingly targeting and kidnapping illegal immigrants to extort ransom money. basically, they beat them, they physically abuse them at these stash houses. there are thousands of them in the border states. they get them to call back home to central america or wherever they're coming from for ransom money. this is also an awful story. what do you say? >> you know, liz, it's just unconscionable the way president biden -- who hasn't visited the border, by the way -- has led this mission in a humanitarian crisis, it's a security crisis and a health chi sis. and the fact that drug car sellt cartels do, terrorize people as they're trying to get into this country because we've opened the door to them, it's really unconscionable. we've talked about this several times before, where he's complicit, whether he doesn't understand, but joe biden is

ruining our southern border and making this place really a laughing stock of the world because we have no security at our southern border. and the fact that it's run by drug cartels who, as i said, terrorize individual, is just unbelievable. it's unconscionable. elizabeth: so it basically undercuts the white house narrative that they're being humanitarian, right? because if you use criminal gangs and cartels going after illegal immigrants in texas the, arizona and and new mexico, targeting each other's stash houses to force these recently arrived border crossers to call home, call their relatives for ransom money so they can send the money to their captives, then that undercuts the white house narrative that their do-gooders. you're not allowed to ma recalled and bully yourself across any if border in any other country in the world. that's the thing. the prime minister's not the president of -- the president's not the president of a caucus, he's president of america, and there are crimes going on here. >> yeah. and what he's doing, liz, is

he's allowing one of the bad things that that people say heir running from in mexico to occur on u.s. soil. this is what he's allowing lawlessness, which is happening in other countries, he's allowing it to happen in our own country. and, good lord, with the defund the police movement and and many of the other things that have lawlessness built this in with them, now he's doing it at our own southern border. with the fentanyl crisis that's happening over the border, these actions, this dereliction of duty continues to be offenses which are impeachabling. they're inpeach bl offenses -- elizabeth: why? what laws do they violate? >> well, i mean, look at national security. look how he's opened border of this security, and now we don't have our secure of our own borders x. if he's allowing fentanyl to come across our border in record numbers. i represent eastern north carolina, and i met with a couple of sheriffs, and they

talk about now every single city is a borderty because they're seeing such a spike -- city because they're seeing such a spike in the number of fentanyl recoveries and overdoes that we're seeing. so i'm sorry, this is a dereliction of duty of the united states president. elizabeth: well, he's not upholding article ii of the constitution. if to defend and protect and uphold the laws of this country. >> yeah. elizabeth: these illegal border crossers, if they don't pay the ransom money, they're often dragooned into becoming drug smugglers or human traffickers themselves. and you talk about crimes on this side of the border, san francisco bay area, congressman, they just busted a fentanyl factory. more than 90 pounds of fentanyl going through oakland and hay worth. one kill lo gam is enough to kill half a million people. about seven in ten drug deaths in san francisco is on fentanyl. that's just one example about fentanyl is plowing through the

cities across the nation. >> yeah. and, liz, you know, if you looked at such an overi abundance of fentanyl deaths occurring in our country, and 90 pounds is about 40 kilograms which it's an unbelievable amount which could kill every american in this country. but if you look at what the supply is doing and these crazy lockdowns that were done which leads to depression and suicide and substance abuse, again, complicit in the death of americans. elizabeth: but we also is have this new poll by the national sheriffs' association, it shows both democrats, democrats and republican americans, overwhelmingly say the white house, government, they've got to do more to screen out potentially dangerous illegal immigrants at the border. and they say local communities at the border deserve to have veto power over what's going on. what do you say to that? that's an interesting finding. >> i love that. i love that. they're the ones who are most affected. they're the ones who are on the front line. they're the ones who can't get

into hospitals because of the flow of immigrants who have come into hospitals. and, yes, they should have that type of power. but this president honestly doesn't care. i just, you know, we had the border czar -- well, not the board or czar, but the secretary of homeland come in and say, hey, what is going on? what is the goal here? there is no goal. there is no leadership from the top. and, again, this is a nation in crisis because of what he's done. elizabeth: so dhs homeland security mayorkas is going to testify this week. what would you ask him? >> i'd ask him, what is your goal? why are you doing this to our country? we asked him the other day, and he just danced around it, wouldn't get to it. what they're doing right now, honestly, to this nation's southern border and really every city in the heartland is unconscionable -- elizabeth: should he step down? >> what's that? should he step down? well, you know, it's interesting, he spoke a good game saying i'm really trying to do this, but his actions speak otherwise. but, you know, the problem is it's the guy at the top that's

doing it. it's the guy at the top that's doing it. yeah, i'd love him to step down and actually somebody get in that place who's going to secure our border. elizabeth: but they take the orderses from the white house. congressman murphy, thank you for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, have a good evening and and join us again tomorrow night. ♪ muck. ♪ kennedy: guess -- the far left calling elon musk's twitter takeover everything from worse than cancer to the end of the world as we know it. and i feel fine. but they're truly afraid of free speech, why don't hay just move to north korea? it's been a little more than a day since the real life iron man dropped 44 billion on the table for the social media giant. it is important to note this is not yet a done deal, there are still some regulatory hoops to jump