doing it. yeah, i'd love him to step down and actually somebody get in that place who's going to secure our border. elizabeth: but they take the orderses from the white house. congressman murphy, thank you for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, have a good evening and and join us again tomorrow night. ♪ muck. ♪ kennedy: guess -- the far left calling elon musk's twitter takeover everything from worse than cancer to the end of the world as we know it. and i feel fine. but they're truly afraid of free speech, why don't hay just move to north korea? it's been a little more than a day since the real life iron man dropped 44 billion on the table for the social media giant. it is important to note this is not yet a done deal, there are still some regulatory hoops to jump through, but everything

liberals don't like or understand is automaticallyville. you need -- evil. you need a little proof? if watch this. >> it is about free speech of straight white men. and so let 'em have it. let them just go at it. i enjoy the block button on twitter. >> elon musk calls himself a free speech absolutist. well, first of all, that's b.s.. elon musk buying twitter says a lot about the priorities of people at the highest levels making decisions that could affect the fate of the planet. >> if you own all of twitter or facebook or what have you, you don't have to explain yourself. you could secretly ban one party's candidate or all of its candidates. the rest of us might not even find out about it until after the election. [laughter] kennedy: that part is is so laughable. did he take a tour under a boulder in 2020 the? eye roll epoy. egg eggplant emoji crying.

democrats are also a acting like the gates of hell have just opened. watch. >> on elon musk, i would say, look, in many ways twitter has been a dark, dark place. i hope it doesn't get any darker. >> when a billionaire amasses this much power, he plays by a different can set of rules than everyone else. and that means one person can literally turn upside down -- [inaudible] kennedy: okay. if liz warren doesn't approve, you know it's probably a great idea. this afternoon the main lord himself weighed in on all the hyperventilation tweeting, quote: the extreme reaction from those who fear free speech says it all. so where is this severe allergy to free speech coming from? let's talk about it tonight with our party panel. independent women's forum senior policy analyst annette. stephanie: fan is back. former aide to senator chuck schumer, host of the aggressive

progressive podcast, the always demure christopher hahn, and the president of the -- institute, jeff geist, is back. this is all anyone can talk about, certainly, on twitter. ines, i thought the sky is falling reaction might have calmed down a little bit today, but it's only gotten worse. it's as though their hysteria is feeding itself. [laughter] >> yeah, and it's not just on twitter, right? it's inside the company. 98.7% of twitter employees, to the extent that they have donated to either party, donated to the democratic party. so elon musk has his a hands -- his work cut out for him as he comes in. a lot of the changes he's going to want to implement are not going to be received well by the employees at the company. of course, donald trump had a similar problem with the federal bureaucracy, but elon musk has one very important tool that donald trump did not, and that is the fact that he can actually

fire people, and that is a great motivator: i definitely think he's going to have a battle on his head if the ftc approves the trade. or the buy. kennedy: they hate elon musk in twitter, and on twitter users are very, very worried, at least left-leaning users, that donald trump is going to come back to twitter. i think the it's fantastic. i haven't heard must have from him. in fact, i'm a little bit worried. christopher hahn, i think you might have a surprising perspective on this. you think that former president donald trump should be able to come back to twitter. >> yes, i do! because, quite frankly, i think we've forgotten how bad he is, and having him on twitter, let him say whatever he wants. look, i believe in free speech. i think -- i don't like misinformation. i think people can correct things on twitter. obviously a had a bigger megaphone there. i am not afraid of elon musk. i actually think he did a lot of good things with the electric

car, and he's an innovate iser, and i think twitter could use some innovation like an edit button. the former president is a major political figure who's really only existing in conservative circles and building up his support among those conservatives, and i think progressives need to understand what a threat he is to come back into politics. and they should be ready to combat him. and if now that he's been banned from social media, he's not really discussed outside of right-wing circles on a regular basis. so i think having him back in the conversation would actually be bad for donald trump and good for democrats. kennedy: i think it's good for everybody. i think it's just fine. i think journalists truly miss him. but it's not just, it's not just democrats who are worried about donald trump and some of the things that we're seeing follow from elon musk. it's other not the companies in silicon valley that have suffered from this hubris, jeff. they've all operated under the assumption that that if they work together, they can cur

curtail and shape speech and thinking. and i think that it is something that has infected so much of society and people arer iffied -- terrified of being banned or kicked off that a lot of times people are compliant with this. >> well, it's certainly a subculture. something like 10% of people even in western countries like the u.s. even use twitter. i know that 10%, it's about 3-2f the tweets. mt. real world, it doesn't really matter -- in the real world, it doesn't really matter all that much. the fact that elon musk would spend $44 billion on a company that doesn't make money, that only grosses -- not profits, grosses -- about $5 billion a year tells you, i think, what curtis yarvin wrote, i think today. you're not buying in this company to make money, you're buying it to have influence. like when a rich guy buys a

sports team, for example. you're buying this because it's a tool for people to influence change, for political activism, propaganda, whatever it is. but nonetheless, of course trump should be on it, and really i think what whole debacle has shown is that it's time for the left to drop their pretenses. and some of the things that our friends on the left hold near and dear to their hearts are just not that popular. and i think that's something that they can't come to terms with psychologically. kennedy: i do believe that, and i think jeff is right, they believe that. that's the problem. but there is a great deal of power concentrated in a small number of people who are now terrified that their narrow world view is going to be challenged if not shattered. and that's why there's a great sigh of relief for people who do not wish to be compliant with that world view or who at least want to be able to openly question it. and they haven't been.

so it's not a huge surprise that they, a lot of liberty-minded and conservative twitter users, woke up with more followers. and, you know, people on the left woke up with fewer. so, you know, they're obviously tinkering with their algorithm right now already in anticipation of elon musk's arrival. well, at least he's arrived in the conversation. we're going to have more with the panel in just a little wit. we've got a number of topics to tackle tonight. but let's also talk about an important point. we've got to talk about free speech and the fight for it and how it cut cuts both ways. my next guest says conservatives have been recently playing the victim too. i agree with that. members of the right cheered musk's decision, one that was said to be rooted in musk's worry -- were increasingly hostile to free speech.

conservatives in particular have protested. for one, they've spoken to a growing embrace of victimhood on the right. john says the right shouldn't whine about big tech, they should focus on free market solutions. and he's here right now, real clear markets' editor and director of the center for economic freedom at freedomworks, john tamny is here. hey, john. >> great to be here. kennedy: look at the grilling people have taken from google, twitter and particularly facebook, and josh hawley and the like were just as outraged as elizabeth warren, you know in and there was a sense that the federal government needs to do something. i've always disagreed with that. >> it's utterly nonsensical, and it's embarrassing when it comes from the right that the government's got to step in and tamp down these powerful businesses. let's go back to the early part of the 21st century. what were the most powerful internet companies? aol and yahoo!.

have you heard about them lately? in 2006 myspace was visited more than google was. how's myspace doing today? you move forward to the present, this notion that all this excitement on the left that elon musk buying twitter means that he's going to have the most powerful megaphone in the world,st it's ignorance if on steroids. this presumption that what is powerful today is going to matter in the future and that what twitter is today the represents the frontier of communications which is just not a serious point of view. kennedy: no, it's great. and i've said this before, i see teenage girls, all you have to do is sit in a room with teenage girls and ask them about social media. they don't talk about facebook and twitter at all. it's pretty hilarious. and they're constant9ly moving on and looking forward which lawmakers are not, you know? the law and congress are pretty much static institutions. social media is not, and that's what they've always banked upon, is that they will be able to outrun the new regulations with

the next big thing. but this conversation at least takes regulations out of it. and to your point, it offers a capitalist solution to an issue that many people have been fighting on social media. >> yeah. this is the way it should be. i like the the old conservatives. i like the old right that said is if we're not -- if a business isn't treating us well, we're not going to go to the government, we're going to come up with an alternative. we are on a fox program right now. rupert murdoch long ago had the courage to start up a network that everyone thought was going to fail because he saw an unmet need in the marketplace. so if, in fact, it's true that these social media companies hate conservatives, which i think is overstated in the first place, but if it's true, there there's the market of opportunity. so at least with elon musk, rather thanking with a victim -- than being a victim, my guess is he's got a vision that no one on the left or right can possibly

understand to improve it. so good for him. that's how it should happen. unfortunately, it's not. more and more are going to the government for help. kennedy: yeah, you're absolutely right. and he also, you know, one of the things that gives me hope is he use withs and understands twitter, and he think abouts about it x. that -- thinks about it. that also means he is looking forward. how are we going to communicate differently? he's got plenty the of money, and i'm sure he wants twitter to be profitable, but it's much more than that. and you know it's more than that based on the reaction, you know? the relief of some of the liberty-minded and the terror within progressives. you know, this is clearly about ideological control, and most of that control has come from the left, and it's time for a challenge. last word. >> yeah, no, i think so. and i think it's great that he's doing this, but i think it's got to be stressed that elon musk isn't spending $44 million to give me a platform to say what i

believe. i think he's doing it because he's got a vision for twitter and its potential that no one left or right has ever imagined. that's why he's so rich, that's why he's making the investment. the twitter of tomorrow is in no way going to resemble twitter of today. kennedy: no. hopefully, it involves a lot of party buses throughout every city in america. those are fun. john tamny, you have a great academic mind. a thank you. >> thanks for having me. kennedy: coming up, russia's top diplomat warning of a, quote, real serious danger of a nuclear showdown. that's great. are we doomed? retired army captain jesse jensen, he's here to break it down and talk strategy, next. ♪ as the storm goes on, out of control. ♪ deep in her heart, the thunder rolls ♪♪

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quote, should not be underestimated. so are we prepared for what putin might do when backed further into a corner in joining we me now, retired army a ranger special forces captain, afghanistan veteran and washington republican congressional candidate jesse jensen. i also almost screwed up your name. he's back. hi, jesse, welcome back. >> thanks for having me. kennedy: thank you very much. let's discuss this targeting of strategic weapons warehouses that russia now says that the west is sending weapons, we will find them x we will destroy them. have hay been successful? >> yeah. so i think that there's two purposes for their attacks on the rail lines. one is a legitimate attack to try and prevent those heavy artillery, the howitzers, weapons systems from getting to the front lines, the other is a more terrorist approach to, you know, terrorize the population,

to make it evident that that ukrainians don't feel safe to evacuate and, you know, again, it's just another example of the tyranny of the russian regime. kennedy: they are very tyrannical and, you know, they talk about nuclear war so frequently. is it a threat or is it a deterrent? >> yeah, i think it's both, you know? this is a unique situation in which, you know, russia needed no provocation to invade, so we need to provide the heavy artillery. the next 2-3 weeks are going to be crucial for the future of ukraine, and i think russia knows that aha, and they're trying to saber rattle or sausage rattle as you with so eloquent he dried it to prevent nato from -- described it to prevent nato from stand ising strong. kennedy: leading from strength at some point gets us into the conflict which isn't a good idea. i know germany if has been

sitting on the sidelines. heavy got a new chancellor, olaf schultz, and he has been pretty dead set against handing weapons or selling weapons to ukraine. but germany has softened. what's behind the change? are they getting a lot of external pressure from some of their allies and the united states? are they no longer afraid of russia? are they finding other energy sources? is that emboldening the transfer in. >> yeah, i think germany's finding a backbone, to be honest with you. they started this by sending helmets to the ukrainians. they realize the ukrainians are fight fighting for the freedom of all of europe, and finally they're serving tanks. you know, congress has been very, you know, vociferous in their pushing of the administration to make sure that we are supplying, you know, the right material, and that's one of the reasons i'm running for congress. jesse jensen for congress.com is where we have a lot of our issues and kind of what we're talking about. and, you know, we argue there that we would not have been into

that conflict had biden led with strength. the disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan is another reason that we're in this conflict. kennedy: but what is this jesse jensen leading with strength, what if it gets us into a nuclear conflict? >> yeah. i don't think we need strong rhetoric. in fact, i think we need to be talking about ukraine winning, and former general, secretary of defense austin talking about sort of a proxy war with russia is another example of this administrations' rhetorical missteps, you know? biden talking about a minor incursion into ukraine would be met with a measured response. you know, we need to be talking about insuring that ukraine wins and insuring that, you know, russia, you know, respects the sovereignty of its neighbors. and, of course, we don't want to enforce a no-fly zone, we don't want to put u.s. troops on the ground, we don't want to, you know, can create world war iii, but at the same time the, we need to make sure the ukrainians have the supplies and support that they need to be vick tour yous. kennedy: but both of those options are pretty bad.

because if you're talking about a proxy war with russia, we did that in afghanistan. and then we were in afghanistan for a long, long time. if you're talking about nuclear war, yeah, i don't know what that looks like, but i'm pretty sure the end offing the book is a -- ending of the book is a downer. >> yeah. yeah, yeah, i think it -- the yeah. there's lots of horror movie ises written about it, right? again, we need to have a robust national security, and we need to have energy independence, you know -- kennedy: i'm there with you on that. >> yeah. and nord stream 2, right, like if you're the biden administration, why do you shut down keystone xl pipeline but support nord stream 2? which is exactly the opposite of what president trump was advocating for. and, you know or to your earlier point, i think germany does have now a little bit more will to fight because, you know, we've upped our exports, and we will continue to up our exports of energy to that country which is so crucial.

kennedy: yeah. let germany kick them in the schnitzel. the u.s. can talk about diplomacy maybe a little bit more than we are, i support that. jesse, good luck in your race. thanks for coming back. >> thanks, kennedy, appreciate it. kennedy: coming up. pollsters say it's do or die for democrats, so why are they letting president biden out of the basement and onto the campaign trail? haven't they seen his poll numbers? the panel returns to discuss whether or not it's a bad idea or a horrible idea to get joe stumping, next. ♪ ♪ centrum multigummies aren't just great tasting... they're power-packed vitamins... that help unleash your energy. loaded with b vitamins... ...and other key essential nutrients... ...it's a tasty way to conquer your day. try centrum multi gummies. now with a new look. ♪ we could walk forever ♪ ( ♪♪ ) ♪ walking on ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪

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muck. kennedy: could president biden soon be sleeping in a city near you? the president's been crisscrossing the country for two weeks now, stopping in districts of vulnerable democrats to give them his mush mouth encouragement. pollsters say it could be backfiring because approval ratings are in the toilet. and the fear is that he could

drag the whole party down with him. looks like it. how long before 2022 democrat candidates tell president thanks but no thanks? the party panel is back. so, inez, is it helping or hurting, having president biden stump for you if you're in a tight race? >> well, that's definitely not a question you want to be asking about the president who's the leader of your party. but personally, i'm more worried about joe biden's health going around stumping, that's kind of a yuling exercise. but, yeah, you know, he won his last election by staying in the basement and not talking to anyone. it's not clear to me why the democratic party believes that at trotting him out to talk to people and perhaps call them dog-faced pony soldiers again is actually going to improve hair chances in the midterms especially if they're facing issue after issue where heir underwater starting with education which was so important in virginia as well as the runaway inflation now, biden's

weakness abroad. i mean, none of these things are good for democrats, and i'm not sure exactly what ws he's going to be talking about on the campaign trail that are going to help him. kennedy: yes. because, you know, independents, when faced with the decision, they're very interested in seeing someone who is not affiliated with his party run. 58 president of independents said they would absolutely pull the lever for someone who is not joe biden or donald trump the. chris, to inez's point, what are the ws? >> well, look, heavy got an infrastructure bill out will there -- they've got an infrastructure bill out there that's going to bring much-needed repairs. they had all this covid relief. there are more jobs than when he took over -- kennedy: just because everyone had their job taken away. that's not the same thing. that's not job creation. [inaudible conversations] >> buy the donald trump economy, those jobs were taken away.

the joe biden economy's returned those jobs. let's keep it where it is. point out -- kennedy: that's very dishonest. >> -- these numbers are very soft, quite frankly, and most of the erosion are from democrats and left-leaning moderates who are not happy with the economy right now x. particularly among women over the anal of 40 who get -- age of 40 who yet most of their news locally. it's actually very good to try to help those numbers in those areas. kennedy: i think that's kind of a stretch. so, jeff, what do you make of -- >> that's true. kennedy: well, it is. you're trying to shellac a turd, and i appreciate it, because that's kind of your job, but, you know, i appreciate the glimpses of honesty isment -- honesty. jeff, it just dose to show that people are really sick of politicians who are elect was they say they're nice and they're likable and they're going to restore dignity. it's like i don't want dignity, i want you the hell out of my life. and that's why you're seeing poll numbers move in this

direction. your thoughts. >> kennedy, most politics today is about being against something. people didn't vote for bind, they voted against trump -- biden. biden's obviously a disaster, an anchor, an albatross for democrats in the midterms. he won't be out are there much. he's not physically capable of it. it's a sad fact that the old, roguish charm of the irish joe biden -- he should have been president 30 years ago. i mean, this is absurd. i would put betting odds, and i'm actually backed up on in the betting states, that he's not the '24 nominee. kennedy: i've already bet $1,000 on this show that you're right. i can't take your bet because i'd be betting against myself. >> they don't have any good governors or senators, i expect the '24 nominee is hillary clinton. [laughter] kennedy: oh, god, that's amazing. please, let it be so. chris, are you down with that? you love hillary. >> no, it's not going to be hillary clinton. it might be joe biden.

again, i wouldn't bet that it would be either. we've had this conversation here. i think the democrats need to get a gen-xer or a millennial in there for the next -- i'm tired of baby boomers. kennedy: i can coit! let's spend trillions and trillions of dollars. k? yeah, this is -- >> it's hillary. kennedy: it is hillary. wouldn't that be great? >> we'll see about that. kennedy: -- the baby jesus and his tiny gold diaper that it is hillary clinton. democrats are panicking trying to fix their party's problems and one that still ruffles some feathers? schools. case in point, a former washington state high school football coach taking his battle for religious free come all the way to the supreme court. seven years ago school officials fired coach joe kennedy for quietly praying on the 50-yard line after a football game. it spiraled into a larger free speech and first amendment issue, and guess who's filed briefs against the coach? the country's two largest

teachers unions. will government ever get out of schools? inez? >> well, i think that that a huge distinction between public education investment and letting the government run a no knoply on schools, right?? -- monopoly on schools. this is what cool choice is all about, it's about delivering the public funds that we're all investing in. i cobelieve thomas jefferson believed as well if you are in a republic where people are going to vote, you do need some form of universal education. but that doesn't mean that the government has to run a series of schools. in fact, it was not always that way in the united states, and i'd much rather give that money to the middle class, the working class, the moms and dads who are turning out to school board meetings all over the country. they are protesting the content whether it's critical race herely or whether it's gender ideology or whether it's this general ideological perspective

in the schools. they are coming out to protest that, and they're finding it very, very difficult particularly because a lot of the school board elections are low turnout elections that are controlled by, as you said, kennedy, unions. so i think school choice is a great solution for them. but i do want to make one additional note and distinction here. in this case they're talking about this coach privately praying on side, and that's somehow unacceptable even though there is plenty of supreme court precedents about the distinction between a government employee's private time and his time on the job. meanwhile, you know, we have people on the left and even some people on on the right saying that the state legislature has no ability to crop control the content that it's somehow illiberal for the state legislate canture to control the content in schools while teachers are on the job. >> oh, my. >> courts make a complete distinction between that, in the 7th circuit and in the supreme court in the past. there is a longstanding precedent that teachers do not

have first amendment privileges while they're in the classroom teaching on the public dollar. so i think this case is going to turn on that private and public capacity, and i think it's a distinction that a lot of people are confused about especially when it comes to content in schools. kennedy: chris? >> well, brett kavanaugh asked the appropriate question in the hearing before the supreme court. he said what if the students see him praying during -- it was right after game on the field. and they feel pressured to join that prayer or they may not be playing in the next game? freedom of religion also means freedom from religion and not having to join in when you don't want to -- kennedy: but they also have to prove there was ostracization or retaliation and, you know -- >> no, no, they don't. they have to prove that, they have to prove -- kennedy: you can't just say what if. >> -- a violation of the separation between church and state. and brett kavanaugh is with the one who asked the poignant

question, and he is experienced as a coach himself. he thought of that while this case is going on, so i think this is on very shaky ground. you can't in a high school situation have a coach after a game require his students to prayer. there's no evidence that he required them to pray, but if you were a student on that team who wanted to get into the game, you might want to be kneeling next to that coach so he puts you in the game, and that's not how it's supposed to work. kennedy: no, and he also wasn't directing students to pray with him. i think this thing is going to go in his favor, but when i said on "outnumbered" yesterday, jeff, perhaps the government shouldn't be in schools, you know, people who love torching strawmen, they said that i was saying that there shouldn't be schools, which is absolute nonsense. but i do think this raises a question. maybe we shouldn't have public schools, you know? when you have failing schools is and bad teachers who can't be fired, that does the greatest

disservice to kids who are stuck in areas tata don't have any -- that that don't have any school choice. your thoughts, jeff. >> yeah. i saw the clip of you on the "outnumbered" show. i thought that was well said. but, look, it's too late. public schools are too far gone. parents, you don't have time to wait for the supreme court, you don't have time to wait for vouchers or school choice. just get your kids out. it's too late. by the time any of this gets fixed, your kids are going to be 18. it really is something where, you know, imagine -- here's the lgbt analogy. imagine if a young kid came into his teacher, second grade kid, and said, you know, my parents aren't religious, but i'm interested. i'm curious about religion, and the teacher took them aside and said let me talk to you about some bible verses. those parents would probably be pretty angry about it. i know it's a tired analogy, but, yes, lgbt teaching in school is every bit as much an article of religious faith as

this coach having the prayer after a football game for god's sakings, who -- sakes, who cares? >> no, it's not. >> it absolutely is. kennedy: why is it so wrong -- like, let's pretend i'm an atheist who loves math. i'm not an atheist, i'm a believer, but what 23 i really love math and i want my kids to learn math? why is that so egregious? i don't understand that. all these things that parents are upset about at school board meetings, it boils down to our kids have fallen behind on the world stage because you dingbats are more concerned about -- >> no. kennedy: -- your form of religion which is that aggressive secularism. >> yeah. kennedy: yeah, it is. >> yeah, i don't think our kids have fallen behind on the world stage. it's an overstatement by people on the right wanting to stoke fear and get people down to school board meetings. and as for the -- kennedy: chris, look at the --

[inaudible] [inaudible conversations] >> -- comes in and has a weekend with his parents who happen to be both of the same sex he can't talk about it, that's what's going on in florida. that's your free speech -- >> that's not what the bill says. that that's completely dishonest. kennedy: give me school choice. yes, give me school choice. if i want to send my -- >> give me a break. kennedy: stop talking. i will cut your microphone. permanently. >> oh! kennedy: but, yeah? how you like me now, chris? >> i like ya. kennedy: give me school choice. if i want to send my kid to a religious school, which a lot of parents do, give me my tax money so i can today -- pay for it. if i want to send my kids to a purely s.t.e.m. school where my daughter doesn't have to listen to a lecture about people who have money are evil, and she did receive that lecture -- >> i'm sorry, kennedy, kennedy --

kennedy: no, you're done. >> it's not a menu. it's not a menu. >> imagine in 2022 -- kennedy: it should be, chris. [inaudible conversations] >> -- his choice is unpopular. what he's terrified is that on that menu, his choice is unpopular. working class parents -- [inaudible conversations] and you are terrified, you are -- no. not just -- [inaudible conversations] kennedy: you're right. it's not on the menu. actually, the culture war is a big tent. there are tons of people in the middle and each on the left who are federal if frustrated with the ideological content in schools. keep denying that's true -- >> oh, please. you don't even know -- [laughter] come on. kennedy: chris, you're -- >> i have kids in the public schools. kennedy: i have kids in public schools. >> there isn't a culture war -- kennedy: guess what? i had kids in public schools the entire time, and i'll tell you what, there is. it is remarkable. it's also going on in the private schools in new york, and they are no better.

and the anti-racism and the pledges they make parents sign, it's awful. and it is such a huge distraction from learning which is along with our kids' mental health, that is the ultimate sacrifice. and you know what? i'm going to be loud about it, i'm not going to stop talking about it. government needs to get the hell out of schools in this country, and we have to go, sorry. but thanks so much for being here. great to see youal. >> thanks. kennedy: pandemic has been rough on kids, obviously. now all the lockdowns could be causing hepatitis and liver transplants. dr. siegel's next. ♪ if (other money manager) different how? you sell high commission investment products, right? (fisher investments) nope. fisher avoids them. (other money manager) well, you must earn commissions on trades. (fisher investments) never at fisher investments. (other money manager) ok, then you probably sneak in some hidden and layered fees. (fisher investments) no. we structure our fees so we do better when clients do better.

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♪ two worlds collided -- ♪ and they can never tear us apart. kennedy: the winner was jeff. if here and abroad children are catching hepatitis at alarming rates, and it's very serious.

health officials say it could be from the lockdowns. overmasking might have weakened children's immune systems making them vulnerable to all sorts of diseases. how serious is this outbreak? joining me now, fox news medical correspondent dr. marc siegel. this is scary stuff. you're talking about a ten transplantations in the u.k. alone, dr. siegel. >> right, kennedy. 17 transplantations. and if anyone thinks we're being conspiracy theory about the lockdowns, this came from the ministry of health in the united kingdom who said, look, young children who have been kept at home and not allowed in school -- kennedy wants them in school, by the way, i don't care what "outnumbered" says -- that they don't get the usual viruses, and one of them is an add know virus. and it usually causes respiratory problems or a stomach ache. but these children are getting severe hepatitis. and it's never been seen with this virus before, in this virus

is the culprit, and it's been found in the majority of cases. over 160, and 17 liver transplants around the world including 2 here in the united states in alabama, 9 kids have gotten it. it's been since late fall, and, you know, it's only in the hundreds, but it's spreading, and the cdc and the world health organization are concerned. we've already seen a death from it. they have to look at the livers directly of the kids that are transplanted to figure out if it's the virus or what about the virus, maybe it mutated. but i also think this issue of exposure is playing a role here. kennedy: so when i was first having kids, you know, the big fad was letting your kid play on the floor and roll around in dirt because, you know, for a long time it's like, oh, let's add hepa filters in our home and make sure everything is completely sterilized, and let's bathe in dial antibacterial soap, and it was having some bad

consequences. should we go back to the hippie days of letting kids chew on hobos' toes? >> you know something, you just said in colorful and beautiful ways, as smart as you usually are, that that's called the hygiene high hypothesis. it's absolutely the case that kids that aren't exposed early enough to the germs that they usually see like by rolling around in the dirt not only develop problems with certain viruses -- and again, this one may have mutated and changed into something more sinister -- but they also get allergies as a forum if you're not exposed early enough, you tend to get allergies. if instead of the food you're supposed to eat we give you too many antibiotics, you get allergies. we need to go back to the days of letting kids do what they're supposed to do, which is play together. not to mention by not playing together, they get stifled and depressed, and they don't learn properly. you stick a mask on their face, they can't learn.

it's delayed as a result. kennedy: yes, you're absolutely right. and it's a critical time. we can still save them from the horrors of statism. dr. siegel, thank you so much. always good to talk to you. >> great to see you, kennedy. thank you. kennedy: topical storm is next. oh, it's a doozy. ♪ ♪ ys, graduations, i'm covered for everything. which reminds me, thank you for driving me to the drugstore. earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours. (all): all hail, caesar! pssst julius! you should really check in with your team on ringcentral. oh hi caesar. we were just talking about you. yeah, you should probably get out of here. ♪ ringcentral ♪

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kennedy: vice president kamala harris has tested positive for covid-19, so for the first time in her life, she finally has an infectious laugh. [laughter] that's a hack with a hacking cough, and this is the topical storm. topic number one. we begin with an incredible video of austin, texas, a wakeboarder getting attacked by a swan. a swan, i say. also known as a waterfowl, party foul. watch this. [background sounds] [laughter] kennedy: real dick move there, swan. that's sean conway taking a swan dive after losing a battle to the physical embodiment of beauty and grace, just like what happened to johnny depp. in fact, after this attack, the swan -- gotta tell the world you're a is victim of swan violence. see how many people believe you.

sean says he considered the attack nature reminding him to respect the environment, and he also decided to stop carrying salmon in his pocket. the worst part is a police report described it as a black swan event. [laughter] topic number two. a three-vehicle stent in missouri resulted -- accident in missouri resulted in 500 pounds of marijuana spilling out of a truck and onto a highway. actually, it was just a roadway, but 500 pounds of weed will make anything high. it happened on 4/20 because that's also the day that marie curie discovered radium, as you know. highway patrol says the pickup truck carrying the drugs swerved into a semi that got smashed into by another semi causing the pickup to tip over and spill the reefer everywhere. many stoner terms, he took two hits and got totally wrecked. no one was seriously injured, but the truck driver and two passengers were arrested for

trafficking because recreational marijuana not yet legal this many missouri. in missouri. which might be what makes living there so miserable. topic number three. a florida police department had sheriff body cam footage of officers chasing a loose boat through an apartment complex. but first, a warning to our viewers, you're about to see the horniest thing in california since matt gaits. let's watch. ♪ bad boys, bad boys, what ya gonna do? ♪♪ kennedy: tallahassee's finest decided to corner the goat inside the apartment building. that's when they lost control, and they all had the same facial hair and smell. after a long chase, police subdued the goat, grabbing it by the horns, holding it to the

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