it is garfield. then congressman from ohio, mr. garfield he gave the speech may 30th, 1868 before a crowd of 5000 people. he went on to become president in 1881. now you know. my time is up. i will pitch it over to neil with the dow up a near 39 points. neil, it is all yours. neil: stuart, thank you very much for that. we're keeping track of the markets, getting more details what the president plans to say to address the rising crime wave in this country and addressing police reform. what captivated nation yesterday, continues to captivate it today, the tragic shooting in texas. that is where -- >> stand by. get closer. >> we can't get anything, they're okay, not okay. we're still waiting. no information has been released

to any of the parents here. >> [inaudible] >> there are kids possibly held at the funeral home and that is what brought me over here to find out what is going on. it is confusing, weird, trying to find out where my baby is at. >> are you okay? we're right here. it's okay. >> she didn't want to go to school. >> didn't want to go to school. >> what are you hoping right now, sir? i know you love your granddaughter. hoping for the best? >> that she is alive. ♪. neil: so much we still don't know, nearly 24 hours after a tragic shooting. the third worst in this country's history, amid growing indications that there were signs as there always are, what we knew and were unable to connect the dots. it happens every time, in every tragedy, in every shooting, in every incident. the shooter, who was described as loaner, unusual, weird,

antisocial, picked on in school. a consistent theme that now produced this, 19 dead kids, two dead adults, three others are clinging to life in area hospitals. first to edward lawrence. the white house responding to this last night, with the president coming back from asia, planning a separate event today to sign on to police reform with this as the backdrop for it. edward? reporter: before we get into that. one more point be the shooter we saw dropped out of school during covid, reports are starting to surface related to that. some things the white house could look into there. now before we get to that the executive order signed today, the president will sign an executive order today designed to hold police officers accountable for their actions. now the white house says this executive order will add accountability and transparency,

bring trust back to communities related to police officers actions. this executive order will do these things. it will create a national database of misconduct. the executive order directs best practices for independent investigations into police officers. it mandates body cameras, bans use of chokeholds. update recruitment to insure diversity in police hires. as the executive order is being signed today, it goes after officers, those trained officers shot and killed that 18-year-old in uvalde texas, that murdered elementary schoolkids and adults. the he offered sympathy and made it political, pushing the gun lobby for gun control. listen. president biden: i spent my career as a senator, vice president, working to pass common sense gun laws. we can't or will prevent every tragedy but we know they work have positive impact. when we passed the assault

weapons ban mass shootings went down. reporter: senator james lankford responded to those comments today. listen. >> challenge is how you deal with a needle in a haystack at this point. there are millions and millions of gun owners, to be able to say this one 18-year-old will wipe out gun ownership across the country is not acceptable for the responsible gun owners out there. reporter: he thinks more need to be done who are mentally unstable to stop, maybe prevent some of these shootings. neil? neil: edward lawrence, thank you. it's a divide among the political parties as it always is on these tragedies on capitol hill with more on that, chad? reporter: neil, lots of words but very few solutions on capitol hill forced to talk about another shooting but don't expect a legislative response anytime soon. >> most of all the entire nation's hearts are broken for the victims and for their families. words simply fail.

reporter: senate chaplain barry black opened the session with prayer. >> lord, sometimes prayers seem so useless yet in first these -- thesloinan s5:17. you told us to pray without ceasing. reporter: shooting comes as the senate holds a hearing for steve dettleback to head dettelbach supports reinstatemented assault weapons ban. senator chuck schumer railed gop senators blocking debate on gun policy. democrats will push to a vote on gun legislation. >> could you ever forgive yourself for not supporting a simple law that would make the mass shootings less likely?

please, please, please, damn it, put yourself in the shoes of these parents for once! reporter: schumer has prepped two bills on background checks. hopes to add those provisions to a bill to fight domestic terrorism but that bill face as filibuster tomorrow. democratic new jersey senator cory booker said it is easier to get a gun than a license for a pet. neil? neil: chad pergram, thank you very much. my next guest knows very well what happens at a school shooting. he lost his beautiful daughter meadow back in 2018 in the parkland, florida, attack on the marjory stoneman douglas high school. 17 people were killed in that at act. as i said andrew pollack's daughter among them. andrew, thank you for joining me. i always feel bad it is under these circumstances and you and have chatted updated conversations back to the time you lost your beautiful daughter, because these things

keep happening. you say we're firsting something far simpler here. guards at schools, more to the point? >> yes. so sick of what happened in texas. it is even simpler than that neil. how about a fence around the school with a single point of entry. most schools like that in this country have learned their lesson in the past from columbine, sandy hook. there were protocols in place. for every school to have a single point of entry it was supposed to be implemented at my daughter's school where the killer just walked through an open gate. similar situation in texas. you know parents need to know after they drop their child off, go back to the school and see how easy it is to get into the school. it could be as simple as that. neil: you know if memory serves me right, andrew, there was an armed guard on your daughter's campus that day. what happened?

>> well his fate is coming up in september. he has been arrested on felony child endangerment. he hid behind a wall for 40 minutes while he let children get killed inside of the school. since that day we changed a lot in florida. i worked on getting legislation passed. now in the school there's one police officer for 500 students in the state of florida. every school has a single point of entry. most with per perimeter fencing. parents responsibility, they have to get involved, neil, to make sure schools are safe. i'm listening before, i'm listening to your sentiment, you have got a president signing an executive order going after police officers. which is ridiculous. how about an executive order for these mental health facilities

that don't put backgrounds on these people, on mentally sick people that are evil? how about they don't give them a background so any gun law in the country, it will never show up when they go to purchase? okay? that's the problem. you will find out more as this plays out that this kid didn't just wake up one mo morning to decide to kill his grandma and 19 people. look at the buffalo shooting, neil. the kid threatened to shoot the school up. he was not arrested. similar what happened to park land with my beautiful daughter. threatened to shoot the school up, not arrested. let's hold mental health counselors accountable for letting these people out back into society without a background. neil: you know what is unusual here too, you talk about the timing of the president's announcement today on almost the two-year anniversary of the george floyd killing, to call for police officer reform. he is talking about limiting the use of force, banning

chokeholds, restrict no-knock entries, require body cameras, all of that, i think the timing is a bit odd if not almost insulting? >> well, look who stopped that shooting f it wasn't for i think border patrol or police went in and stopped it. we want to give police the right tools to do the right job in schools and mass shootings. we don't want to tie the hands of the police. i support law enforcement. look, i had the worst thing ever happen to me, imagine a police officer coward hit behind a wall and didn't go in and my daughter was killed. i don't hold him responsible for all the other great men and women out there, put the uniform on and sacrifice their lives every day. we need to support the police. we need to hold these kids, mass shooters accountable for their

actions. at an early age it starts. when you don't hold the kids accountable, they grow up, commit more crimes. same thing with criminals. criminals need accountability to keep society in check and when that doesn't happen this is what we got. we have a mass shooting every other week and he talks about more gun laws. you hear schumer i'm listening. schumer will put more gun laws in effect, there are already background checks. don't they get it through their head? if you don't arrest kids or mentally ill people put them in a situation where they have the background, it doesn't show up. you can put all the gun laws in the world. if you don't put it on the background it won't show up. neil: so looking at what's happened here, as you said there have been so many school shootings since what you had to deal with, that we go through this. it's a national obsession to sort of get to the bottom of this. maybe you know, reinforce

entrances to schools so that not all doors are open. there is a way of policing that, even with armed policemen, volunteers. nothing seems to go much further than that. if you could recommend anything right now, andrew, after what you've been through, after what you've seen since i know you devoted your life to this, seen no parent go through what you went through what would it be? >> thanks for asking, neil. because why i'm doing this with you right now. it's the parents responsibility to get involved, know what is going on locally. i have a website --.com, bryna.com, for lard slash -- [inaudible] parents need to put matters into their own hands. you can't count on mental health counselors. they dropped the ball. i put it on the parents.

there is nothing more precious than our lovely children. get involved locally. go on my website. i lay it out for your school, your child's school, get involved. one thing that is going on positive in this country, you turn the news on. everything is so negative. inflation, fuel prices, ukraine, one thing that's positive, neil, is parents are getting involved locally in their school boards. so don't forget, okay, gets involved with critical race theory, that's great. now you got to focus, you got to step it up get involved with school safety at your child's school. unless the right politicians that will put school safety at the top. that is what i tell parents right now. it is happening, neil. parents are getting involved locally with the local school board elections. neil: andrew, i was reading a little bit of the background they're having, what they're able to learn about salvadore

ramos, the 18-year-old behind this shooting. a troubled kid, a loner. he was sort of ostracized alienated, had a list, kids made fun of them. i go back to the guy that killed your beautiful daughter, 16 others, ostracized, loner, making compensating classes and programs to have him fit in. wasn't working. this plays out again and again in shooting after shooting. are we just wasting our time going through that? because not all who are loners or socially inept go on to shoot people? >> well, that's a problem you know. with my daughter's murderer, a lot of these kids, they're held accountable. there are policies put in place they think they're helping these kids but if you don't show kids accountability at an early age, you're going to set them up for

failure. they will commit more crimes. they think they will get away with it. you know, you give them, when they're young, hey, have somewhat of a chance when they're younger but they need accountability. everybody. adults need accountability. first of all you get arrested. you threaten to shoot a schooled up, you get arrested. you threaten children, threaten rape, you need consequences. that is what is lacking. it is multitiered what needs to be done, neil but one thing is, hold the kids accountable at earlier age. make them spend night in jail for threatening to kill people. maybe it hits him, say i never want to do this ever again. he doesn't commit another crime. we'll never know like my daughter's murderer, who trespassed at school, wasn't arrested. threatened to shoot the school up, wasn't arrested. the kid in buffalo threatened to shoot the schooled up. wasn't arrested. kids need accountability, neil,

just like adults do. neil: finally i know in the case of your daughter around others the shooter wasn't targeting them per se, didn't know them in a lot of cases just shot them. in this case we're learning especially here that was the case. these were just seven, eight, nine-year-olds, same thing. that isn't always the case. columbine there were some exceptions where the two shooters targeted some of them, not all of them. what do you make of that? what lessons we can learn from that, that it is indiscriminate? >> well, it's just the lesson is, you got to get involved, neil, when you have children. you got to get involved locally like i said. go to my website. get involved with your school district. you know, i had people write me all the time and i tell them, you got, it is more important who is sitting on that school board than who is sitting at the white house, if you have children in that school system.

and there are options in different states. you can homeschool. you can do private school. you know, there is a lot -- there is charter schools. if your school is not safe, i got parents, i ask them when i see them, do you have an armed guard at your school? is there single port of entry? it is amazing, 50, 60% don't know if there is armed security at the school or a single point of entry. i say to those parents, you got to get involved, like rolling the dice every day that you send your kids to school. you never know, you know, everyone thinks, neil, like i did, it could never happen to me, it could never happen but go ask those families in texas how they're feeling today. neil: that is well-said. andrew, i cannot fathom what you've been through but i can fathom what you've done to make sure others don't go through the same thing. i have a feeling that meadow is

looking down at you, thanking you for that. i thank you for that. thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. neil: stay with us.

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georgia, not entirely, where donald trump picks for governor and certainly secretary of state position didn't go his way, but, but he did get herschel walker nominated in a pretty easy nomination process for the race there. charles watson in atlanta where things handicap right now as we get ready for the general election. charles? >> good afternoon, neil. turned out to be early night for trump backed senator former senator david perdue who conceded the gubernatorial primary less than two hours after results started coming in. incumbent governor brian kemp won the contest handily, bringing north of 70% of the vote. it is interesting neil, perdue tried to make the race about republican electoral meltdown in 2020. kemp on the other hand wanted no parts of rehashing the 2020 election, stuck to talking about his record as a conservative.

that was a message that apparently won voters over. the incumbent governor is poised to face democratic gubernatorial nominee stacey abrams in the general election. a rematch from their first bout in 2018. this race could sew up any divisions within the gop. >> brian kemp was true, here is other thing i said was true, he is a much better choice than stacey abrams. so we're going get behind our governor. >> tonight the fight is all over the state to make sure stacey abrams will not be our governor or the next president. reporter: former president trump's political power did prove to be beneficial for football great herschel walker who cruised to vix very in the six-way republican primary in the u.s. senate. he walks into a general election race with questions from within his own party about his lack of political experience and past controversies include allegations of abuse from his

ex-wife. it led to some concerns about walker's electability against democratic senator rafael warnock who already amassed a 23 million-dollar war chest ahead of the fall showdown. walker says he is ready. >> their american dream is becoming a nightmare and this nightmare started when the radical left came up with a bunch of lies to divide us. reporter: secretary of state brad after fence berger fended off a primary challenger jody hice. after raffensperger took a lot of from trump after refusing to certify the election loss. social media platform, celebrated wins in other states, texas, downplayed what happened here in georgia, neil. neil: do we know whether former

president trump would campaign for brian kemp in georgia at this point? his candidate lost but would he campaign for him. reporter: we haven't heard anything directly from the former president in terms of campaigning for governor brian kemp. we did hear from david perdue last night and a few weeks ago, who said, look everything i said about brian kemp is true but, he believes that brian kemp is a much better choice than stacey abrams. so he says he is going to lick their wounds, get out there, campaign for the governor. no word yet on president trump feeling that way, neil. neil: got it, my friend. charles watson in atlanta. "the hill" editor-in-chief. discussing with charles watson whether the former president will indeed campaign for brian kemp or rally around him as the nominee of his party again. he beat stacey abrams four years ago. the thinking is he can do so again. what i asked john barrasso

wyoming senator suggested he would do that, he suggested it would be a good idea. i don't see that happening. what about you? >> i think it's a great question, neil. i don't see it happening, i do see the former president campaigning with herschel walker he led the republican endorsements on walker and then the establishment did follow suit, mitch mcconnell is on board now. but with kemp i don't see it. in normal times you would have kemp and walker and trump all campaigning for one republican ticket. everyone vote republican. i just don't see it because, as you know, neil, the 2020 election was very personal, to the former president. neil: i understand something about that. that is the story you were telling me. bob, i'm curious now, say what you will with the latest trump bump effect, he still had a lot more victories than defeats and a pretty high batting average here, even in cases where his candidates might have lost, the message, the underlying message

of trumpism is thriving. i'm just wondering how that sorts out this election year and even beyond 2022 as we set our sites on 2024? >> well, trump is certainly looking at running again. there is i think very little doubt of that. i do think he is going to run, i think he is going to take credit for wins. now he has been padding his record a little bit by endorsing people who are not in tough contests but at the same time the trump endorsement does mean something. it doesn't mean everything as we saw senator perdue said, he said over the weekend, i may not win i won't lose by 30. last time i checked he lost by more than that. this was something a blow to trump but in other contests that you mentioned trump is winning and that endorsement does mean something. obviously in the pennsylvania senate primary, dr. oz has a slight lead and trump is basically already claiming victory but that is a long way to go. neil: i wanted to get your

thoughts in post this tragic shooting in texas whether we can get any bipartisan project on even background checks, the kind that were envisioned by joe manchin, republican senator, pat toomey, that would at least provide stronger back ground checks on those who maybe shouldn't have guns. it went nowhere. i know at the time they were battling whole filibuster thing, even a few years later, in an equally difference traded senate, it similarly went nowhere. so where is any of this going? >> well, neil, that was one of the biggest showdowns i've seen in washington was the nra versus president obama on that background check bill. nra did win. i do think that members are going to want to talk at least, maybe having a big bill, want to talk about school safety from the right? sure, let's put that in. let's put in some background checks. let's put in mental health

issues have a big bill, realistically neil, there will be talks but i don't see it getting anywhere because you need 10 republicans in the senate, they have a very different viewpoint of the solutions but it is disheartening that our politicians who come to washington to solve problems have not solved this problem, really they're not even close. neil: thank you, my friend, very, very much. you're quite right history repeats itself of tragedies and inability of anyone to do anything about it even at the edge. speaking about the shooting, i want to bring you up to date, senator schumer is meeting a bipartisan group of senators planned for later on with new zealand's prime minister. she was leading new zealand at a time couple years back when 50 people were killed and dozens injured at attacks in mosque by the assailant, it was recorded on social media.

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neil: welcome back, everybody, holding their own, not like drama big swings up and down, but a lot still going on in the technology sector, right now the battle back and forth that we've been seeing over twitter with elon musk right now, in the middle of that, trying to sort out exactly what twitter is saying and exactly what it is telling the truth. let's get latest from susan li. susan? reporter: we're expecting twitter shareholder meeting to take place later on. you can imagine the headlines

will around elon musk, takeover bid, maybe forward guidance on sales of user growth in shareholder's meeting, as he does with social media, musk musk is front and center. there is question whether he joins the meeting. it will probably be virtual. what do you say about the meeting on hold right now? do we get clarity on number of bot accounts which musk says at least 20% of the 229 million daily active users. twitter says it is 5% or less. wall street doesn't really think the deal will go through not at 54.20, the offerer price. we're looking at the widest gap between how twitter stock trades and musk offer. he is putting up $20 billion of his own tesla stock depending on margin loans. the tesla usually trades up but not since the deal. tesla is lowest since august last year and concerns over in

china and shanghai plant here. twitter analyst dan ives of wedbush, he continues to believe the twitter deal is 100, 150-dollar overhang tesla stock due to musk's leverage. wrong deal, wrong time. if he walks away, pays the billion dollar breakup fee it will be challenged in court by twitter board and management. the twitter deal expects it to go through 54.20. twitter got a whole lot cheaper in the social media selloff, snap's warning, missing guidance for the year. meta, google, everybody else seemed to drop in the session. $135 billion market cap wiped out by snap's 40% drop. ad sales, ad sales are not growing like they used to, because of a slowing global economy and ukraine. now twitter, neil, depends mostly on ad revenues so a lot of people think that 54.20 looking pretty pricey here. neil: a long way from that as we speak.

susan, thank you very much, great reporting my friend. ray wang, constellation research, ceo, great author. ray, i wonder whether this twitter thing will ever happen with musk. what do you think? you know i think it is a negotiating tactic right now. valuations susan was talking about, they're really low. we've seen p-e ratios come down. ad sales are dropping. as we enter into recession, i think he is stalling to get the negotiation deal, drive that down is price to 34.20, instead of 54.20. probably target that he ask looking at. neil: wow. >> breakup fees, has to figure out what is going on with the breakup fees, more importantly what features are going out. this is important, right? this ad cycle is being marked by the social media medium? is it a consumer sentiment issue? gaining average users, that is what people are asking right now. neil: what do you make, forget twitter, but the whole tech sector just getting bludgeoned

from their highs, facebook is down 53%. amazon 44%. netflix 75%. tesla, the currency for twitter deal with musk close to 50%. you could make the argument, all right, that is a bear market. nasdaq is in a bear market. these are uber bear markets for these individual stocks, overkill or more killing to come? >> we think there is still more killing to come, until we get interest rates down right. $7.3 trillion market cap since november of 2021. it has never been like this before, we saw in the headlines as well, the worst 100 day start since 1970. this will continue until we get a floor. we still don't have a floor. we need to know what the interest rate, what the ceiling will be as well? neil: i talked to ken fisher noted investor fame. he like warren buffett, earned all their fortune investing, he

is not nearly as depressed about these markets as a lot of other folks are, that the underpinnings are good. when i asked about some of these same technology names, he still has them. he really didn't indicate he added to his position but he hasn't sold them. he sees something that others don't. what do you think? >> he is right. here at davos people are psyching themselves into recession. fundamentals of tech stocks are still good, 20 or 30% year-over-year, they're not losing money. the dot-com crash, they're going to settle. some stocks like microsoft will do well. amazon will do well. google will do well. nvidia, tesla, alphabet. these are all stocks i think, and apple. these are all stocks that are solid stocks in your portfolio. if you have a three-to-five year horizon you will be fine. if you're trying to figure out how to guy the dip, you have no idea where the dip is. neil: got it. you're important enough to be in davos. first i thought you were coming

from the poconos. no, you're in davos. you're getting it done. not that you're not getting it done if you're in the poconos. that is a beautiful place too. thank you, my friend, very much. backdrop for this is relatively stable interest rates. 10 year note still around 2.75%. remember it was zooming up close to 3 1/2%. that was what, two weeks ago? more after this. ♪.

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searching for infant formula proved to be a herculean task. the administration is trying to work with the europeans to get more of that here but good luck. lydia hu, with all the developments with more. lydia? reporter: neil, we're following a hearing, series of hearings happening on capitol hill today, fda commissioner robert kalich is testifying before house commerce committee. lawmakers warning him this will not be a easy hearing for him. they're searching for answers from him where is the supply on baby formula? neil. that breaks out into two buckets. first area of inquiry they're going to be exploring why are there so few manufacturers of baby formula in this country? second surrounds the investigation into the sturgis, michigan, plant operated by abbott. it shut down voluntarily in february but the fda is facing scrutiny right now for its handling, and why it took so long when the whistle-blower

complaint was filed back in october. neil, watch this. >> fda's timeliness of interviewing the whistle-blower, getting into the facility for a for cause inspection were too slow and some decisions in retrospect could have been more optimal. you're right to be concerned, the public should be concerned as i said already, it was too slow and decisions that were suboptimal along the way. reporter: neil, we now know the sure sturgis plant will be opened june 4th t will take six to eight weeks to produce formula at full speed. there is long way to go ahead. neil. neil: expert on this, lydia hu, a mom, mom to be pretty soon. casey mcdonald kind you have enough to join us as well. "mansion global" host joins us as well. ladies, thank you both for

coming. casey, you heard lydia's report what is going on. he hope to get more formula here but having a devil of a time doing that i'm just wondering, do you worry about that? >> oh, my god, absolutely, neil. i think absolutely worrying is an understatement for how i feel right now. my baby is due at the end of september. i'm crossing everything, hoping that this is more resolved by then. but you guys had the graphic up and it said those four companies responsible for 90% of the supply in the united states and that is shocking. then you hear of these new companies by heart, for example, they just few weeks ago got fda approval. got a plant in pennsylvania, but so many start-ups are goebeled up by the bigger companies. i don't know what i know. i accept between my two aunts, grandma, my mom. 12 kids this is like the darkness i'm walking into. it scares me.

my husband and my brother could only do soy. i was colic. some can only do soy not dairy. there are things to keep moms up all night. neil: what is the time frame on this? they want to correct, get things up to speed but sounds like it will be many months at a minimum. what are you hearing? reporter: we're really getting mixed messages. depends what you ask. just over the weekend we heard from the secretary of the department of agriculture it will be a matter of couple weeks before the formula importing overseas will reach retailers shelves. meanwhile you hear from white house press secretary karine jean-pierre that it is actually, she doesn't have a timeline. she doesn't know when this formula is growing to going to e available for consumers. then you hear abbott, country's largest manufacturer of formula, they say it will be as they said before six to eight weeks. really seems like anyone's best guess. i guess if we're looking for a silver lining here, positive news, they do have a date to

restart the major facility in michigan, in sturgis. this is the largest manufacturing facility. they say the formula produced here at sturgis is responsible for feeding, i think one in six infants taking similac which is a major formula in this country. one in six infants taking sim lack coming from the sturgis, michigan, facility. this is big deal it is being brought back online. neil, we have to brace for at least a few more weeks, maybe months of shortages, not optimal supply on our shelves. neil: lydia, when are due? reporter: i'm due at end of august with my second baby. congratulations, casey on first one, such an exciting time. i remember the time with me first one, going to the store to buy formula. i had the luxury now being able to buy what i needed when i needed it. i can't imagine what moms and dads, families are going throughout there, trying to beg,

borrow, barter to get the formula for little ones now. it is just awful. neil: casey yours comes along month later than lydia? >> well that is if we go full term. i was nine 1/2 pounds. we'll see, neil. neil: that would be a virgo baby. >> yes, yes. neil: maybe both. i have highest authority that is the best astro logical sign because it's mine. be well, stay strong, be healthy. scary times nevertheless. we'll have a lot more after this. dow down 40 points right now. the fact they seem to be making some progress on these kind of things even though not making progress on a lot of other things, there is that. after this. ♪.

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neil: we're learning a little bit more how salvadore ramos, the 18-year-old behind the shootings yesterday in texas got into the school, whether he encounterd a police officer. he did. and he got the better of him, managed to get into the school and of course hit one class, apparently did all the shooting in that class. a lot of details are still missing. i want to go to james gagliano

fbi supervisory special agent. a good read on these things. i didn't give you much to go there, i apologize from that. apparently there was engagement with an officer there, didn't stop salvadore ramos from getting into the school. whether used a side entrance, shot through to get into the side entrance but he did. what do you make of these early reports? >> well it is good to join you, neil. it is a sombering sobering day today, as law enforcement will piece this together, will put together a timeline, obviously the deceased subject who did he talk to, who was he possibly conspiring with, where he got weapons, that is that piece of investigation got to be followed through on. in regards to the timeline at the school, look, you know, post-columbine, that is going all the way back to 1999, that is 23 years ago a lot of schools addressed issues of mass shootings on school property, by

hardening the property. single point entry, armed fences, single resource officer. criminals follow the path of least resistance f they're willing to die in the process, attempting to wreak havoc like in this situation, murder snit 19 children and two adults not much you can do to stop it. this is deterrence. mass shooter looks into a school, they might have too robust after security system there. in the wake of this i said this after columbine, i said this after parkland, said this after sante fe and i said this after new town, in the wake of this we'll have to come type of security overlay for all school systems in our country. we have to do better than this, neil. this was an unforced error here. there should have been better security and this could have been prevented. neil: you're right about that. james, wish we had more time. the kind of stuff he looked into, you have been reporting

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reports about whether there was a school police officer on campus or nearby at the time. salvador ramos the 18-year-old behind the attacks came to the school to launch these attacks at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. apparently, there was. a school police officer did exchange gunfire with the shooter. the officer was injured with the gun fire. that's when he ran inside the school, barricaded himself in a single classroom and began shooting everyone in that classroom. just terrific. we will keep you posted on that. ahead of that, keeping you posted of abroad. a tepid response to trading today. some retailers like nordstrom on the how you doing quite well. nordstrom, target, best buy, not doing that well. a bit of a bifurcation going on

as there is real estate. high-end real estate doing quite well and at the lower and not quite so well. let's get the reed on this with larry glaser and kenny. kenny, what do you make of what the markets are telling us? you are getting a different read on the consumer, i think. on the high-end to come up very different than the pain at the low end. >> i don't think the consumer at the high end is affected the same way. it is hitting the lower end consumer much harder which is why you see the luxury goods that they are doing better because people are getting ready, they are making up for lost time. people not affected by inflation can continue doing that.

it's the lower end feeling the real crunch. that is what certainly the action is telling you. this bifurcation of who is suffering into is not. >> the nasdaq today, larry, you get a sense that there is no traction there. i talked with a very successful billionaire investor about this phenomenon, particularly with bank stocks that used to be all that which are now not all that. >> what do you tell investors who join the run up when the bank stocks were just storing it now just want to lock in whatever they can because it fast and furious. >> people need to get in their bones the notion that stocks are

volatile at any time. they are up-and-down. this is a time where i think it is hard for people to understand what is going on because we are having something going on that we do not normally have. normally in the correction or early time phase there are one or two scary stories. this time i can count seven scary stories all at once. is it a whole lot of bees stinging us that we have to run away from or is it potentially fatal? the pessimism, the disbelief. whatever it is you say. >> having said all about, he is not letting go of his technology stocks. he is not selling much of anything in this.

he is confident of the turnaround here. i think that is what he was getting out. >> we knew the lowest interest rates and free money was not sustainable. it did boost after prices. all risk assets went up in this environment. as the money and liquidity pulled away, we are seeing the asset prices come back down. particularly those that are vulnerable. what is particularly painful for 401(k) plans, pension funds, most people have a lot more exposure to big taxpayer may realize. apple, netflix, google's, they are everywhere. the broad economy is not as bad. the good news is, all that pain is doing the feds job for it. it is creating an environment where we are we pricing rich

assets, deflating the bubble where there is a bubble, we are taking that wind out and making it better for the next generation. as long as we do not destroy their confidence in the process. >> at scaring people and it's scaring the markets. i know they aren't necessarily supposed to be glued to every market, but since it started we been in a freefall. >> it'll be interesting to see what happens today. >> the early may meeting. >> right. i think they will continue with the increases. what is interesting, maybe it is time to pause come september after they get through june and

july. they want to put it out there that may be they are going to consider pausing. they were talking about go, go, go, go. >> they had lost their resolve. >> i think it's a mistake if they pause. that is what they are going after. i think if they pause they start losing all credibility. after that may meeting they use the word financial conditions. if things start to get pretty bad, like new home sales that we just saw today, when that starts to come out, the feds will blink because they don't want to be political ahead of midterm elections. they don't want to cause a recession. even if they do, they don't want to be seen as causing it. they blinked before they will blink again and if they think

they are part of the problem not the solution, they will back away and we have a lot of damage this summer in financial aspects listen to how the market reacts to the statement. >> that is interesting. that is what we are doing. thank you. in the meantime, another worry to add to the worries that are constant reminders of the markets. fears of food shortages across the globe because of what is first going on in ukraine. the breadbasket of much of europe. o'grady calling miss from switzerland. kelly. >> hi, neil. worried that the civilized world will have to act soon to prevent it from becoming a and even larger humanitarian crisis. food prices on a global level have risen by one third period the number of severely food insecure people has doubled

since a peak pandemic began. blaming russia for that acceleration with over 20 million tons of wheat stuck in ukraine, food shipments cannot get from odessa to struggling regions like somalia and russia is using hunger and grain to solve power. >> his own form of blackmail, holding back supplies to increase global prices are trading wheat for political support. >> while some are trying to strike a deal, many believe asking for mercy is a fool. a coalition export offered avoiding putin in the nato obligation. the outlook is dire if the solution is not found soon. >> you could be talking about a pricing problem the next few months. next you will be food

availability and that will be hell on earth. >> many of the conversations are saying global cooperation is the only way to prevent blackmail. my conversation much more pessimistic when a band on russian energy is being discussed. neil: thank you very much. want to go to hilary vaughn now on the fallout in ukraine. the truth of the matter is, the bulk of higher prices started way before the ukraine war. up 35% since the president touted the effort to reduce the gas prices. what happened? on capitol hill. what happened? >> everything the administration has tried has not done much to

bring down prices. a lot of the blame on putin and his invasion of ukraine even though it's really clear that americans need relief today and the administration cannot wait for putin to back away or pull out of ukraine. the president has talked a lot about this incredible transition when talking about gas prices, saying americans need to hold on they need to suffer a little pain at the pump so they can make the transition away from fossil you will. apart from his ambitious agenda to promote climate friendly policies. >> signal after signal that fossil fuel investment is to be strongly discouraged. without capital investment, you will not have those new drills well. even when they make other leases available, hermits have been held up.

or they have been put in a disadvantageous way. >> some in the oil and gas industry say it was president biden's action from day one that has inflicted these cuts on the industry. killing keystone has added more red tape strangling the oil industry. making it more expensive to build new energy infrastructure. last november they rolled out new regulations on emissions from oil and gas production making it more expensive to produce u.s. energy. the information is discouraging wall street from investing in u.s. oil and gas. president biden says releasing oil from the fpr would be a quick fix. even that has failed to bring prices down for the first time in november.

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inflation and things of that nature. gas prices all relevant and worthy. they are looking beyond that. a lot of investment bankers and managers are saying right now, we probably will have peak inflation now. it will subside at some point this year. what they are looking at is a trait that involves not inflation, but recession. lately, you see some dipping of yields. i don't know what they are doing today, but recently they have come down over the 30 year. people picking up municipal debt i am just telling you what people are telling me. they are buying at the bottom, but they think bonds will do okay going forward because inflation is not the real problem here in the long term, in the immediate term, i should say, neil. it will be a recession in a bear market. what are your trades if you are

worried about that? municipal debt is not bad. obviously, budget deficits for municipalities and states could pose a problem. usually states our money good for their bonds. there has not been a state that went bankrupt ever. the states that have full faith and credit in their bonds, their bond guarantees, that is stuff people like. the other thing i keep hearing with the implosion of crypto is look at miami real estate in the next six months. if you've been down to miami recently, that was crypto paradise. crypto billionaires and millionaires bought up everything in sight. now their portfolios are getting crushed. the real estate market down in miami could take a big hit because of that. people are looking strategically

there. the trade now it's always in the future. yes, we will have more fed tightening, we will have some inflation going forward, but they are looking beyond that. they are looking at a bear market and they recession and for trades you have to put on in those instances, neil. back to you. >> you are a young guy to be endorsing municipal bonds. >> you know, if you hate paying taxes municipal bonds are the way to go. [laughter] bond prices are going to go up. not a bad place to put your money. >> that is absolutely happening. thank you, my friend. the push on capitol hill to rush through some gun-control legislation, it will not come with dropping the filibuster. joe mansion says at least not with him. >> the filibuster should not be needed. we have been talking about the

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>> it is my responsibility to keep new yorkers safe. my heart goes out to the family. i am sorry they lost their loved ones. i thank god i am the mayor right now and not those that don't understand the urgency of this moment. neil: i think people understand the urgency of the moment was spiking crime and incidents including shootings on subways that are indiscriminate and attacks in midtown manhattan, stuff of legends, urban legends that have people avoiding the big apple altogether. the former new york city mayoral candidate guardian angels founder kind enough to join us

now. curtis, i think he is taking a bit of a premature bow here. what did you think of that? >> do i blame god for him being mayor now? could it be any worse? bill de blasio mayor for eight years he single-handedly destroyed the city here that we love. in the first four months of eric adams administration we have had more crime. my opponent who is now the mayor declared himself to be the law and order mayor. this swagger man never had a plan. i was with you many times before the actual vote in november and i said to everybody, this swagger man has no plan. former police captain, he will know what to do, maybe the next time for you and he never had a plan. we just keep getting worse and worse and worse because eric

adams has not prioritized dealing with crime. more people have left new york city they had even last year for florida. it has been an increase in the exodus. it is not about covid-19 any longer. as you can see, neil, only 8% of the actual office space is occupied every work day in new york city. the workers are not coming back and it's not because of covid-19. it's because of the crime and eric adams inability to get control of the situation. >> the crime was the number one issue which you campaigned on. people were, are leery of that right now. all the more so when you get these reports of subway cars half filled and filled at all because people fear for their lives. i am just wondering, mayor, obviously, gets a little annoyed when people get annoyed at him over this, but he is not

following up with this. he is now pushing more police on trades. he's not pushing a stronger police presence. i am not saying he is unaware, he has talked about black crime, he has talked about the kinds of things you would hope would be an encouraging change and tone in city hall, but outside of that the underlying problem itself is not getting better. >> no. let's face it, neil. he has been a bit distracted. the only plan the swagger man had was to work his way to pennsylvania avenue in the white house. now everybody realizes, stop thinking about being president. you won't even get to first base unless you deal with the number one issue, crime. it is a plaguing most urban areas across america. you sold us a false state of goods. it's time to dig in and get real. i patrolled the city subways

every day. you need to have a transit cop in uniform going up and down the moving trains. 6200 cars. you need to have cameras in these strains. there are no cameras in these trades. the cameras and the platform as we found out in the aftermath of the subway shooter 10 weeks ago, they don't work. we have to get back to basics. the mayor cannot be going out tonight tonight raising the roof hanging out with the tiktok girls and trying to keep up with the card. on that level he is not very well. providing public safety, it's hard to say he is even doing the worst job on the block. >> do we have to go beyond and even above ground and start really monitoring in and out. many democrats are afraid of doing that and targeting people based on their demeanor or their

conduct. we have to do something because some of these bazaar incidents are people with serious mental issues. >> there is an expert on the subject. i sat down with him this weekend. rudy giuliani. the only mayor that took this city from being the murder capital of america, 5000 unsolved shootings and eight years into the safest big city of america. he's got a plan. he's done it before. eric adams refuses to meet with him. it would behoove the man. just keep the focus on crime and rudy is more than prepared to share with him the plan that worked before. eric adams is pretentious. when it comes to public safety and protecting the citizens of new york and the touristy wants to come back he's got a miserable job in the exodus continues.

people every day are moving to florida, georgia, tennessee, texas, virginia, north carolina, south carolina. nobody is coming back. he has billboards in florida saying come back to new york. >> they are not coming back. he refuses to do stop and frisk. most of these crimes are committed by gang bangers and teenage thugs. >> very good talking with you again. former city marrow candidate. helping out when we can on trades and everywhere else to keep us safe. one person cannot do it all. crime is a big issue in this country. yesterday's attack in texas. it claimed sadly 19 kids lives into adults. texas governor is speaking right now. >> they are filled with laughter, innocence and joy.

their love is a gift that parent get to unwrap every single day. parents in uvalde had that gift taken away from them. stolen by a demented person. days before, days before yesterday when these children were at school, some were receiving awards for perfect attendance. these kids will never attend school again. to say the least, uvalde has

been shaken to its core. families are broken apart. hearts are forever shattered. all texans are grieving with the people of uvalde and people are rightfully angry about what has happened. events like this tear in the fabric of the community. our job is to ensure that the community is not going to be ripped apart. all texans must come together and support the families that have been affected by this horrific tragedy. what they need now more than ever is our love. what they need is uplifting from all of our fellow texans.

all of our fellow americans. and let me emphasize something that i know you all know, but the reality is, as horrible as what happens, it could have been worse. the reason it was not worse is because law enforcement officials did what they do. they showed amazing courage by running towards gunfire for the singular purpose of trying to save lives. and it is a fact that because of their quick response getting on the scene, being able to respond to the gunmen and eliminate the gunmen, they were able to save

lives. unfortunately, not enough. but i want to make sure that everybody knows, all the law enforcement agencies and groups that are involved in were involved in this process, the texas rangers are leading the investigation and they are supported by the highway patrol, criminal investigative division, dps aircraft, dps intelligence counterterrorism division, dps crime and victim support. they are also supported by the texas division of emergency management. the fbi as well as multiple providers including the dpa, hsi and border patrol. and then, of course, the valiant local officials.

the uvalde chairs department, the uvalde sheriff's department, police, mayor, county judge, district attorney's office, local public works and surrounding police department and san antonio police and fire department also. let me walk you through some of the facts that have happened. a lot of things that have been said. some are correct, some are incorrect. let me tell you the best information understanding very importantly that this is an ongoing investigation and ongoing investigations often reveal new information as those investigations progress. the first thing that happened was that the gunmen shot his grandmother in the face.

she then contacted police. the gunmen fled and as he was fleeing had an accident just outside the elementary school and he ran into the school. officers with the school district approached the gunmen and engaged with the gunmen at that time. he then entered a backdoor and went down to short hallways and into a classroom on the left-hand side. the gunmen entered into the classroom and the classroom was connected internally to another classroom. border patrol consolidated officers, police, sheriff said dps officers converged on that classroom. a border patrol officer killed the gunmen. as i said, texas rangers are leading the investigation joined by federal, state and local law enforcement officials.

at this time, we know that 19 children night teen children have lost their lives. two faculty members lost their lives. in addition to that, there are 17 people who are injured, but their injuries are not life-threatening. all family members of all of the students and faculty members have been contacted and informed about the circumstances. officials are working with parents to ensure that parents will be able to see their children did parents should

contact victim services at the county fair plex. we know that their parents still striving to make a connection. all parents are welcome to and urged to contact victim services at the county fair plex. the gunmen was 18 years old and reportedly a high school dropout reportedly, there is been no criminal history identified yet. he may have had a juvenile record, but that is yet to be determined. there was no known mental history of the gunmen. he is an ar-15 using 223 rounds. there was no meaningful

forewarning of this crime other than what i'm about to tell you. the only information known in advance was posted by the gunmen 30 minutes before reaching the school. he said, i am sorry, i'm going to shoot my grandmother. the second post was i shot my grandmother. the third post, maybe 15 minutes less, i am going to shoot an elementary school. i mentioned that during the shoot out that took place at the school, in addition to the

students and the faculty, three officers injured all in good condition. one deputy sheriff lost a daughter in that school. before coming out here, we had a long discussion with law enforcement at all levels. a discussion with community leaders, elected officials. and i asked the sheriff and others and open ended question i got the same answer from the sheriff as well as from the mayor of uvalde. the question was, what is the problem here? they were straightforward and emphatic. they said, we have a problem with mental health, illness in

this community. and then they elaborated on the magnitude of the mental health challenges they are facing in the community and the need for more mental health support in this region. i want to make sure that everyone understands the mental health services available at this time. me making one clarifying point in advance and then i will double out in the aftermath. whenever anything as shocking and extraordinary and disturbing as this event is occurs, there is an urgent need for everybody affected to access mental health i cannot be more emphatic than saying with great urgency,

everybody in this community. i mean everybody. the victims, their families, family member, friends, the law enforcement involved, the entire community is in utter shock about this. some physical wounds that were sustained by the officers, they will heal in the coming days. the mental and emotional wounds are far harder to see and they last far longer. working with federal and local officials, we will be here for a long, long time. one key point that we will focus on is making sure that everybody in this community has the access

that they need for as long as they needed to address the mental and emotional health care needs that they have. i want to list the various agencies and make sure these are made available to the public. the mental health services are from victim services across the area from federal, state and local levels. including a family resource center at the uvalde county fair plex. have to uvalde civic center. they provide wraparound services for families who are affected. the texas child mental health consortium, created by the state legislature in 2019 is available to assist. the bluebonnet children advocates are available to

provide services for children. the texas health and human services commission is on-site and will be available for the ongoing provision of services. the texas education agency providing supplemental counsel services. the texas department is providing counseling services for law enforcement. the fbi is also bringing in mental health services for law enforcement. law enforcement officers, all of them seeking out and obtaining this mental health counseling. a phone number available for all victims. i was provided their number to give out to you, publicly. the number for the district

attorney's office. 830-278-2916. at this time, i will pass the microphone to lieutenant governor dan patrick. >> excuse me. excuse me. >> sit down. you are out of line and an embarrassment. [inaudible] >> this is not a place to talk this over. sir, you are out of line. sir, you are out of line. please leave this auditorium. >> i cannot believe you are a sick son of a [bleep] that would

come here and do that. it is [bleep] like you. why don't you get out of here. [inaudible] >> we are going to stay on that but it looked like challenging the governors job. a critic at the governor has not done enough to address guns. they do little to monitor the safety are provided enough background checks. we will go back to see how they are dealing with this.

>> their family members whose hearts are broken. that is not going to do anything to heal the broken hearts. every texan, every american has a responsibility where we need to focus not on ourselves and our agendas, we need to focus on the healing and hope that we can provide to those that have suffered unconscionable damage to their lives and loss of lives we need all texans. in this one moment in time to think of somebody other than ourselves, think of the people that are hurt and help those that are heard.

and this time the lieutenant governor will speak. >> i was just about to say that there will be plenty of time to discuss and analyze what happened yesterday and do everything that we can within our power to hopefully prevent it from happening again. now is the time, people watching around the world in this country and in the state to focus on these families, as the governor just said. right now we need to put our arms around the families of these victims. the student and the teachers. this is not a partisan issue, this is not a political issue. this is an unimaginable moment that will impact the lives of

those who lost their children and those who survived. the adults, the teachers, the men and women of law enforcement that were there. we are better than this, as a country. we are better than this. these types of crimes when you see children killed go to the very core of all of us to have children or grandchildren. we saw it four years ago in santa fe. so, can we not be a nation that can stand to gather for at least a day or a week or a month? my gosh. to put these families first and everything else second. my gosh. we live in a time, i said this

yesterday, when people are at each other's throats everywhere we turn. on the internet or an oscar stage are two coaches arguing or in the political war world or the media world, who are we? who are we? we all have to do our part. we all have to do our part to make us a better people and a better nation. evil will always walk among us. it's times like this i've seen up unit everyone has seen it. these other shootings, sutherland springs, it is god that brings a community together. it is god that heals a community. it is god that heals a shattered and broken hearts.

if we don't turn back as a nation what we were taught by her parents and what we believe in, then these situations will only get worse. and happen more often. no matter what your thoughts are today, pray for these families. pray for this community. give us wisdom. give us wisdom, but right now, let's focus on the families. they deserve that. they need our love, they need our prayers. >> thank you, governor. now the speaker of the house. >> thank you, governor. i appreciate it. mayor, i'm sorry you had to witness that outburst. now was not the time to politicize pain-and-suffering. >> we are still following this. that does appear to have been that o'rourke, a democratic

candidate for governor for texas challenging the governor right now. an unforeseen development here. the republican powers. the speaker of the house all of been saying they are rallying around families who have lost loved ones. the 19 children, two adults killed in yesterday's attacks. saying that this is something that is happened across the country. critics in the state government saying they have not done enough here to police this sort of thing and it is so easy to get a weapon in texas. this led to this sort of thing. many on both sides that will argue this. we do know the nra convention is planned for houston later this week. on friday, president trump will address this convention. he is not changing his plans to

do so. governor abbott will be at that scene. as will be ted cruz. the senator from texas as well. this exposed sort of the raw nerve after this latest shooting to put it into perspective, the 27th school shooting just this year. the third deadliest after virginia tech which claim some 32 lives. sandy hook some years before that that took 26 lives. seventy-five people have been killed in mass shootings and just taxes in the last five years. it is a record that the governor should be ashamed of. hope and prayers are not enough. let's go to fox news contributor jonathan, it's very good to have you. i appreciate it. this exposes the raw nerve and

anger and anxiety of the moment. these are extremely volatile and extreme times in temperament. i'm just wondering how you make of how it just played out. >> nobody better than you, neil, to be on the air right now. binary thinking, either this or that. right? in our political world it is either this side or that side. that is the answer. it is simply not. complex solutions. complex illnesses require multiple medications. can i tell you, the world, yes it is upside down right now and we all feel it. what we are talking about right now, how we got to this point in texas is they are too young

people whose minds are messed up and who's hearts are empty. >> to that point, i am glad that you mentioned it as well. trying to piece together what was going on. salvador ramos legally purchased these weapons and indiscriminately killed all these people. no apparent arrest record that we know of. no criminal record that we know of. more might become obvious. kids picked on him and teased him. he sort of hung out by himself. did not have any friends. no one has vouched for him. it's a familiar pattern we often see in these cases here. it is sad in which we keep seeing it. >> yeah, we do. minds that are messed up and hearts that are empty. then, of course, there is easy

access to violent behavior. able to killed many people. the binary thinking i was referring to, oh no this is entirely mental health issue or the other hand all we have to do is get more gun control. we are smarter than that. yes there is mental health, these messed up minds in these empty hearts, of course there might be mental health issues here, but how did that happen? yes, some of it might be families in which kids are not able to experience unconditional love? i'm not saying everybody has to have two parents in their life or are perfect but the experience of unconditional love? if you don't have that, your mind will be messed up, your heart will be empty, neil this is a time for us as a country to say, stop thinking in a republican or democratic way

alone in a binary way of thinking. start thinking in a complex, human way. neil: i think that is very profound. you know, jonathan, as a former priest yourself, still a man of god, trying to do the right thing, i often think that in times like these where re offer thoughts and prayers, i take nothing away from that. >> yeah. neil: but it has got to seem empty for those who lost loved ones, especially children. what do you say to them what do you tell them about the senselessness about all of this whether god even cares about them? >> i would say it is not on god. it is on us. it is not on god. it is on us. neil, most of the work when i'm not on fox with you or others i do executive coaching. so i'm coaching ceos and their senior leadership teams how to lead their organization, organizations better, how to

lead people better. i think actually comes into play when something like this happens in our country. we have a terrible, terrible tragedy. life is an integral, related reality. when we go to work and we find a boss who doesn't treat us well, when we find a ceo who doesn't care about his people but only cares about the bottom line, when we go to work environment and we find disrespect for the human dignity of every human person that has an affect back home. it has an affect on how we treat our teenagers, our children. in the end, life is pretty simple. it's about meaning and purpose. you remember the great author, the jewish author of man's search for meaning, victor frankel, he talked about his experience in the terrible situation of auschwitz. he said people who survived that

were ones who had meaning and purpose in life. neil: well-said. well-said. >> we have to find people in our lives who need meaning and purpose, reach out and make a difference. neil: well-said, jonathan, wish we had more time. want to get to our mutual colleague and friend charles payne. you make people think in these times, a little less yelling, a little less screaming. a little more so you searching. here's charles. charles: neil, perfect guest for this time, absolutely. thank you so much, my friend. neil: thank you. charles: good afternoon, everyone, i'm charles payne. this is "making money." breaking right now the market showing more signs of life. it is still vulnerable. while pessimism runs wild there is says something about resolve. how you can be positioned when the smoke eventually clears. we're hearing from the fed in just a few moments a string of dismal economic data points has the street second-guessing jay powell maybe the piv vote