here ahead of the game. metropolitan police, capitol police in washington, d.c. sean: i wish i was there. i miss it. that airs 8:00 p.m. eastern on fox sports 2. we'll throw it over to "the evening edit." it starts right now. >> happening now president biden denying the u.s. is in a recession. instead he is touting a bill that will generate more government spending and add to the red hot inflation that we already are facing. plus, china's president gives biden a fiery warning on taiwan as troubling new report reveals that china spent billions of dollars on u.s. real estate last year. we've got fox business host larry kudlow on that. plus new details in the hunter biden scandal. turns out the president may know

more about his son's shady business dealings than he first let on. violence on the rise in blue states. new video showing people helping a suspect run away from an attempted arrest in new york city. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. jackie: good evening and welcome everybody. the dow ended up 330 points higher this following today's data from the bureau of economic analysis showing showing that gs domestic product, gdp, fell by .9% on an annual basis from april through june. so this of course marking the fact that the u.s. is now in a recession with our nation's economy contracting for the second straight quarter. edward lawrence is at the white house with the details, edward? reporter: call a duck a duck.

the common definition of a recession is two quarters of negative growth but the president says with the unemployment rate near record low we can't be in a recession. president biden: there will be a lot of chatter today on wall street and among pundits about whether we are in a recession. if you look at our job market, consumer spending, business investment, we see signs of economic progress in the second quarter as well. reporter: the fact is the administration has only added back jobs to the economy on net up until this last jobs report. in the last jobs report the private sector finally reached the amount of jobs lost in the pandemic. only created 140,000 jobs above prepandemic levels. republicans say the pain americans feel that is what a recession looks like. >> the american people know when they get their pay stubs they're making less in real wages. and every day the american people understand the simple truth, we cannot afford democrats failed policies. we are certainly paying for them. reporter: the president still

pushing for more spending to beat a recession as well as inflation. republicans say government spending is what got us here. jackie: edward lawrence thank you for that. meantime for more on all of this welcome ranking member of the house budget committee congressman jason smith, macro trend advisors founding partner mitch roschelle. great to have you both us tonight, congressman, ask you first, get reaction president biden essentially denying u.s. is in recession. all week they have been trying to rewrite the definition and in a statement today i would like to highlight the fact they would like to call this a transition period. your thoughts? >> jackie, the biden administration and washington democrats need to wake up to reality. every american understands what the economy is like right now. for the last 75 years anytime the real gdp has decreased two consistent quarters we're in a recession.

real wages, real wages amongst americans have dropped 1.5% since joe biden took oath of office. guess with? in his first 18 months, every month wages dropped. 105 points prior to him being in the white house, 10out of those 105 months real wages have gone up. inflation is up 13.8% because of joe biden's recless spending policies. we are in a recession. i hope that he will wake up. he also said that inflation was only transitory. jackie: yeah. >> it's not. clearly they need to wake up and see reality? jackie: janet yellen called it transitory, mitch. they were she apologized. did a mea culpa but said she was wrong. she is denying u.s. is currently in recession as well. this is the administration playbook if you will. the markets seen this quite sometime. obviously markets have dropped. investors skiddish about investing in the market. the bond market is forecasting it as well. second gdp report,

second quarter of negative you know, contraction if you will and that's confirming what we already knew, which is that things are really hard out there. gas prices are up. food prices are up. people are really struggling, mitch? >> inflation is insidious. really hurts the lowest wage earners the most and if you look at the gdp report today, it really wasn't very encouraging because inventories fell which dragged down gdp and exports which was perhaps one of the shining lights there, with the very, very strong dollar that we had, i think exports are going to suffer down the road. this slowdown of the economy is not transitional, it is not transitory. it may be with us for a while. it may not be a deep recession but i think it will be a sticky one and bad policy as maria bartiromo likes to say leads to bad outcomes. what did they do today? same day of a bad gdp print,

what did they do? announced more spending. boggles the mind. jackie: this is pretty miraculous. i have to get into it. we have sound bite with president biden's closing remarks about inflation and spending. listen. president biden: this is the strongest rebound in american manufacturing in over three decades creating 613,000, 613,000 manufacturing jobs. passing the chips bill will put another $72 billion for incentives and tax credit to expand semiconductor production and the inflation reduction act will add another $370 billion in clean energy tax credits in reconciliation including incentives to accelerate domestic production of solar panels, wind turbines, batteries and critical materials processing. that doesn't sound like recession to me. jackie: well, actually, congressman, it sounds like a

recession to a lot of different people when you start to break down the spending, right? the chip bill, basically giving big semiconductors a ton of money to make chips in china. with inflation reduction act, put the full screen up, we break it down, $739 billion in new taxes, $369 billion for energy and climate, and a mere 64 billion for expansion of affordable care act that might help people the most out of all of this spending. nonetheless spending is spending. spending got us here, correct? >> absolutely. inflation was 1.7, 1.7 percent in february of 2021. they passed the 2 trillion-dollar reckless spending bill that they said was to fight covid. less than 9% went towards covid. the rest went towards projects of $783 million to checks to prisoners. $1,400,000,000 checks of japanese citizens in japan or

2 million for a museum in new york. that is why people are paying more to put food on the table, clothes on their backs, gas in the car. just because they put the name inflation reduction on the act that it reduces inflation. you don't spend hundreds of billions of dollars and i wish they would wake up, talk to real americans instead of their woke liberal advisors. jackie: mitch, come back to you on the economy overall. right now we've confirmed this recession we're in. some people thought we were in it sooner. many are forecasting a period essentially of stagflation where we're going to see continued high inflation, we're going to see low growth, we're going to see the labor market continue, that is the one thing democrats hang their hats on is this labor market, low unemployment, simply to me seems like a very low participation rate it almost seems artificial. that we're in for tough times

ahead. what i'm seeing from the tech companies, for example, and on wall street is, a headline here and a headline there, about layoffs and job cuts as things start to slow down. it doesn't happen overnight? >> jackie, as you know in the middle of corporate earnings season for second quarter and you know there is a press release gets issued in the morning and a conference call at some point. when you listen to ceos and cfos on that conference call they all talk about controlling stepping. if you don't know what controlling spending means that is a metaphor we're going to cut heads. we're going to cut the bottom 10% of the workforce in a company jack welch style, or we'll do hiring freeze or freeze wages. all of those are bad. it is inevitable that is going to happen. one last thing you said labor participation rate, you're absolutely right, last month's jobs report that administration was jumping up and down about, 300,000 plus jobs terrific. at the same time 300,000 plus people left the workforce.

jackie: right. >> that is why the unemployment rate is low because people are leaving the workforce. jackie: i love the stat for those still in the workforce, still looking for a job, they could have two jobs if they want them. that is what is going on right now. a lot to watch, a lot to follow. really appreciate both of you coming on tonight, giving us your insight. >> great to see you, jackie. jackie: new details in the hunter biden scandal. there is now word that the president met with at least 14 of hunter's business associates while he was vice president. and china's president gives biden a fiery warning on taiwan as a troubling new report revealed that china spent billions of dollars on u.s. real estate last year. fox business host larry kudlow, here to break it down for us next. >> you have these land purchases near military bases, buying up of our farmland that we need for domestic food security but we've also seen incidents where they're coming into our ports.

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reporter: jackie, president biden and chinese president xi xinping spoke more than two hours this morning and covered a number about issues, slowing economies, russia's invasion of ukraine and covid. they also discussed taiwan, an issue at added friction to the country's relationship, particularly as speaker nancy pelosi is planning a possible visit. xi warning china firmly opposes taiwan's independence and interference of external forces. xi also added that the u.s. should abide by the one china principle, warning when it comes to tie one, those who play with fire will get burned. tariffs were not mentioned by either of the u.s. nor china in the post-readouts but the conversation comes as president biden is reportedly considering relaxing president trump's tariffs on imports to china in order to reduce inflation. some say rolling back on the tariffs will have a minimal

effect. reducing inflation by a quarter of a percent at most. with today's gdp report showing a shrinking economy for the second consecutive quarter, there could be growing pressure to take action on tariffs, a move that beijing would likely welcome. jackie. jackie: thank you so much for that, lydia hu. joining us now for reaction fox business host larry kudlow. always great to see you. thank you so much for joining us tonight. talk about the possible trip, nancy pelosi considering going over to taiwan, in this phone call today, president xi saying you play with fire you get burned. that is not a warning to me, that is a threat. your thoughts? >> it may be a threat but we should not acknowledge that threat. nancy pelosi should go to taiwan. we should be backing taiwan to the hilt. we should be sending all manner arms, navy, air force, artillery, ground stuff, just to

help taiwan defend its freedom and its independence in the event of some kind of communist party of china invasion which, you know, apparently they are planning. so i applaud what nancy pelosi is doing. i think it is exactly right. by the way, i think that i have no idea, nobody knows what happened in this conference call, at least we haven't seen much on it, but this is at no time to give china any concessions whatsoever. okay? these are the people who are buying up russia's oil and financing putin's war in ukraine. these are the people who are not acknowledging, they're not abiding by the phase one china tariff deal that was made several years ago. there is an important new study out by the petersen institute on that. of course their human rights violations, their democracy violations. i mean we should not be giving any concessions. for the life of me, jackie, i don't know why we gave six

million barrels of the strategic petroleum reserve to china. jackie: i know. >> i'm still trying to figure that out. you wouldn't give them anything. you never get anything in return. one-sided relationship. biden would be far, far tougher on china question. jackie: that is the question, can he stand up to china? look at foreign policy so far? how i handled afghanistan. how he handled russia before the invasion of ukraine. doesn't seem he has the gumption to stand stand up to president e way donald trump did. >> one other thing. i had senator portman on the show. portman is looking at chinese espionage and spying in the federal reserve system. and they have caught some people red-handed but there are still some that they have not caught. there is some fed research people that seem to be on the take from communist china,

giving them our models and various research information. this is part of the ongoing chinese attempts, whether it is cyber hacking or direct spying, espionage, whatever it is, throughout american business, throughout american technology, and now we are reminded once again that they're going after the federal reserve system. it is absolutely incredible and the bidens should be much, much tougher on china. jackie: to your point, larry, we've got a sound bite from congressman mike waltz. talking about how china so ingrained in the united states. listen to this. you can react on the other side? >> they already dominate pharmaceuticals. dominate solar panels. in this case, now it is our food supply. in addition to this land that they're buying up, they've also bought the nation's largest port processing plant. they know if they can win this economically, they don't even have to worry about a military conflict. it is not just jobs issue. it's a national security issue.

we've got to wake up as a country. jackie: we know chinese-government linked company bought 300-acres of land 20 minutes from grand forks air force base in north dakota making huge real estate investments here as well, larry. so your point on the espionage, all of these other issues as well. china really is getting a footprint in kind of a hold on this country? >> well, i think these chinese land grabs are very important that mike waltz mentioned. we dealt with this in the trump administration. they had land, before we booted huawei out, they put cameras on telephone poles next to our military bases. that is another example. i wouldn't let them buy land to be perfectly honest. we got rid of huawei. that is a good thing. i would extend this to tiktok

tiktok takes all major ships it to beijing. tiktok, bytedance is the owner, is instrumentty of the chinese communist party. make no mistake about that. jackie: i make mo necessary make at that about. what about the tariffs, if biden removes the trump terrorists, will that impact inflation, is that a worthwhile step at this point or should he leave well enough alone? >> i think it would be a terrible move on his part. i don't want to see our government make any concessions to china whatsoever. all we're doing is rewarding bad behavior. they are our adversary, okay? and president trump made that perfectly clear. the bidens sometimes seem to understand that. other times they don't. as your reporter suggested, the tariff issue has nothing to do with inflation. jackie: yeah. >> trump administration put on

about $365 billion worth of tariffs in order to bring them to negotiating table, to try to get reciprocal trade, stop all of the i.p. theft and all the forced transfer of technology. that deal has not yet succeeded, but my point is, i wouldn't make any concessions whatsoever to china. the symbolism is wrong, the national security policy is wrong and stop these land grabs. these land grab things are very important. they're happening all over the country. what mike waltz mentioned. this is a big thing, not a small thing. jackie: i hear you. everybody else does loud and clear. larry kudlow thank you so much for joining us tonight. good to see you, sir. >> thank you. jackie: all right. violence on the rise in blue states. new video showing people helping a suspect run away from an attempted arrest here in new york city. we've got that story ahead.

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i feel like we're in a bad mad max movie. jackie: that is the analogy i used as i walk around new york city, i watch what is going on around me. having said that on "fox & friends" this morning, a former army ranger, special forces, tim kennedy talking about what the problem is with the defund movement. where our police stand in this country. take a listen to this. >> your job is to be able to protect those behind you. to even protect the person you're maybe trying to arrest. i tell officers coming into our training i tell them that no help is coming. no one is coming to save you. no one will fight for you. you have to prepare for that. we've been emasculating a our police officers. defund the police movement, gutted any form of police training. if you don't have the tools, you have to use escalation of force to get them into cuts, what use are you in the society you're

supposes to be serving. jackie: reaction to that. i talk to nypd officers tell me essentially their hands are tied. they can't do their job. that is why situations like this arise. they escalate. basically, this movement, that it has taken over the ideology, that the criminals understand, as you said, that they can run around and do whatever they want without consequence? >> hoorah for that ranger. i agree 100%. between the no bail, the no bail laws, between the new non-compression, even if you grab a perpetrator by mistake while you're fighting him, you put any compression into the diaphragm area, in many cities and states across america you cannot only be fined, you can be prosecuted and go to jail. so what's happening are these cops who are reluctant now to take any action when they take action, they're not fighting to save their life, they're

fighting in their mind to save their job and what that does, it puts them and their partners in danger. and cops are dying because of this in my opinion. the people they are sworn to protect and serve are suffering, jackie. jackie: you bring up the issue of the d.a.s. for example, here in new york city, alvin bragg, he was voted into office. mayor adams speaks about crime frequently. he gets up on the podium a lot, denounces what is happening in the city. part of rhine he was voted in was to clean things up. he says he can't do it because the d.a. isn't prosecuting the crimes and bringing them down with respect to the charges and offenses, putting violent criminals back on the street. mayor adams, put pressure on him to resign or governor hochul, remove him but that is not happening. so we're sort of in this deadlock area right now, what do you think happens in cities like ours? >> well, what you're seeing is, the political class, passing the buck, nobody wants to put their

political future on the line while our cops lives are on the line. what is happening, what we're seeing pervasively throughout law enforcement, cops are finally standing i will go to jail if i do what i was sworn to do. jackie: exactly. >> they make the same paycheck no matter what. a cop never got in trouble for crime going down. they get in trouble crime goes down. that means their fighting crime. crime goes up they don't get in trouble. they will get the check no matter what happens. that is what i'm afraid of. jackie: basically what the officers tell me they just don't want to get in the fray. they don't want to take that liability. that is the situation they're in. not only tons of people retiring from the force. young people say, why do i want to go into this profession? why on earth would i want to do this? they have a point. bill stanton, thank you. jackie: new details in the hunter biden scanted -- scandal.

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jackie: bombshell in hunter biden probe. fox digital revealing president biden may know much more about his son's business dealings that he let on. david spunt has more from washington. reporter: this is a new review by fox news digital that shows then vice president joe biden spoke to business associates of his son hunter at least 14 times this. was during the obama presidency. hunter biden is under federal investigation and has been since 2018 for potential tax and foreign lobbying violations. the fox news digital review shows then vp biden spoke with associates from mexico, ukraine, china, kazakhstan and the united states. several interactions took place at the white house during the obama presidency per visitor

logs. now president but then candidate biden on the trail in 201019 was asked repeatedly about hunter's business dealings. president biden: i never spoke to my son about his overseas business dealings. reporter: there is no indication that the president is a target of the investigation into his son. the source says probe reached a critical phase. hunter biden has not been charged with a crime but could be if the u.s. attorney in delaware and attorney general merrick garland give green light to do so. garr lend is under increasing pressure to indict former president donald trump for his behavior following the 2020 election. "the washington post" reports that the former president is under criminal investigation. back to you. jackie: david spunt, thank you so much for that. joining me now with reaction heritage foundation senior legal fellow hans von spakovsky. great to see you this evening. now as david describes in that report we're seeing that there were actual interactions, vice president then, under

president obama and 14, 14 interactions with hunter's business associates from countries for example, mexico, ukraine, china by the way. this president continues to stand up and say that he had nothing to do with his son's interactions. that he is not complicit in any way. nothing to see here. >> yeah. well that is a little bit hard to believe. it is pretty clear that biden was, joe biden was not telling the truth when he said he didn't know anything about his son's business. if that's the case, then why were all these business associates of hunter biden set up to meet with the president, particularly in the white house? it seems pretty obvious that hunter biden was in essence selling access to the vice president, to these foreigners and these foreign companies. by the way since they were -- he was representing foreigners lobbying the federal government the fact that he did not register as an agent of a foreign government means he

violated federal law that requires it. i mean that is just one of the problems that he is facing. jackie: one point. exactly in some of these emails that the post obtained i want to read one to you where one of the business partners of hunter biden is referring to the president again as the big guy. we heard this before. hunter biden's business partners called joe biden the big guy in this panicked message after the post laptop story. he says, quote, i think in the scenario he wins they would leave sleeping dogs lie. quote, if they lose, honestly i don't think the big guy really cares about that because he will be too busy focusing on all the other expletive that he is doing. you're reaction? >> well that shows how concerned they were that information would come out about the fact that hunter biden was exploiting his relationship with his father for business purposes and to get his associates in to meet the vice president. look, on top of what is makes

this even worse, on top of this, as you know, senator chuck grassley has just sent a letter to the fbi and the justice department because he has had whistle-blowers call him who say that individuals within the fbi, including the assistant special agent in charge of the fbi office did everything they could to stop an investigation of hunter biden. in fact violated fbi rules to do that. and falsely labeled the laptop information as russian disinformation when it had been verified. so, that's partisan law enforcement. >> speaking of the laptop, which the left-wing media by the way still denies its existence. karine jean-pierre says we don't comment on laptop or any of these issues. the voice mail from the laptop,

joe biden calls hunter biden. i want to talk with you. i thought the article released on line it will be printed tomorrow in the "times" is good. i think you're clear. i only read that voice note once again to you because ted cruz had a reaction to this and i want you to listen to it. >> this guy, how many films has he made of himself committing multiple felonies jesse, if you put out a film with a pile of crack an prostitutes somebody would come knocking on your door and they would prosecute you. but if daddy lives at 1600 pennsylvania avenue the criminal laws do not apply and it is deeply corrosive to our system of justice. jackie: sew, hands, this is to the point you're making, i couldn't have said it better than senator cruz said himself. we've seen images on the laptop and damaging evidence as well

suggesting all the links and sort of all the hands that were involved in hunter's business dealings including his father and you just sit back and say, you know president trump's kids were skewered. they actually went out and made a living the honest way but they were skewered for using the trump name and being part of the administration. but hunter biden, when he can profit from his father's connections nobody seems to care. >> there is a real double standard. it is so disappointing how politicized the fbi and the justice department have become. and as another grassley said in his letter, it's clearly that law enforcement decisions were made in the hunter biden case based on politics. jackie: yeah. and, that is the issue right there. hands, great to see you tonight. >> thanks for having me. jackie: washington, d.c.'s mayor now requesting the national guard be activated as buses full

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from arizona mark brnovich. great to see you. we've been having this discussion over and over. your state is impacted by this as well. you here the idaho sheriff talk about it. this isn't just a border state problem. southern problem. this is a national problem? >> yeah, absolutely, jackie, thank you for having me on again and you're right, we have discussed this and i have said it so many times that every state is now a border state and the fact that you have these liberal mayors now even acknowledging the problem, shows you the extent of the lawlessness and chaos that the biden administration has brought to the entire country. i mean we start getting numb to these numbers but in a year-and-a-half since joe biden's been president more than 3 million people have illegally entered our country. the entire population of kansas. more than 800,000 got-aways. entire population of seattle. throw on top of that all the drugs, record amount of methaphetamine, fentanyl coming into this country, people are

dying. people on the terror watch list are coming into the country. joe biden is doing absolutely nothing. we're all less safe because of joe biden and secretary mayorkas. jackie: you made the point that even liberal mayors are acknowledging the problem. that is correct. mayor bowser, washington, d.c., requesting the activation ofhe naatl guardrdrr the the migranmigrushat a cinom w he aou b b bow mr.r.r.r. w its obvusbvus llyivedndndndndhe reas we' w differentre in this is that people aren't coming to d.c. as their final destination. what we see is that they are moving on to their final destinations through d.c. and, also, what makes us different is, we need to ask the president for use of our national guard. jackie: mark, she is acknowledging the problem yes, but she also wants special treatment at the same time. she wants to activate the national guard because when it hits home in her city then all

of a sudden it becomes an issue, when cities across the country are dealing with this problem as we speak? >> yeah. you know we issued an opinion, i issued the first opinion in the country saying what is happening at our southern border constitutes an invasion. the far left and liberal media said it was racist and it was politically motivated and charged and now you have these liberal mayors saying the exact same thing that their cities are getting overwhelmed. i would ask you, ask everyone listening where were they when we were talking about people on the terror watch list coming into the country? they said nothing. where were they when we were talking about the number of high speed pursuits doubling in arizona, number of migrants dying in the desert or record amount of fentanyl. now they have to pay a price financially all of sudden a big problem for them. jackie: right. >> the reason so many illegal immigrants are coming to d.c. they want to meet their hero joe biden and secretary mayorkas. jackie: you bring up a good

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as the white house faces a laundry list of crisis, democrats are trying to distance themselves from president joe biden ahead of 2024. joining us for reaction, welcome fox news contributor and washington examiner correspondent byron york. i want to start with a sound bite because it's too good. there's a number of democrats wanting to distance themselves from the president. take a listen. >> do you support the president in his reelection bid? >> i'm working on my own election, and that's all i'm focused on right now: we can chat about that after i win and get into the united states senate. >> do you want to see joe biden run for a second term? >> i -- that's an easy question. not going to take long. >> i don't want to answer the question because that's not -- yeah, i don't want to answer that question. >> the president chooses to run again in 2024 we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but i

think if the president has a vision and that's something we're certainly willing to entertain and examine when the time comes. >> i think aoc was the most diplomatic and cory bush was the most tough saying i don't want to answer the question. your thoughts. >> does not make you feel good in you're joe biden but you played the embodiment of what democrats across the country are feeling now cause we just see this new poll from cnn that showed 75% of democrats want somebody else to be the party's nominee. not a specific candidate but somebody else other than joe biden to be the party's nominee, and that's not really an outliering. that's month we had one from the new york times in sienna that had 64% of democrats saying they wanted somebody else to be the nominee. the sound bites you just played are pretty indicative of what's going on in the democratic party right now. >> i think you're right and when cnn is reporting 75% in its

poll, you know something is wrong. speaking of polls, new new hampshire poll has some of the candidates that people would want to see run for president in 2024. pete buttigieg toms the list with 17% and pete biden with 16%, gavin newsom 10%, amy klobuchar 9%. no way around there do i see kamala harris. >> no, that's interesting and we're close to 20 -- more than 20 democrats who ran for the democratic nomination in 2020. they all are still around and they all still want to be president. what's interesting about new hampshire polls as well as iowa and south carolina polls is that the, you know, when you look at national polls, the party's primary race does not start as a national race. it starts in iowa, new hampshire, and south carolina maybe the democrats will change some of that, but it starts in states, and you have to look at

that and clearly what it shows is there's a pretty robust opposition to biden in new hampshire, which would be a very, very damaging thing for him as a sitting president. >> yeah, it's interesting, byron, really when you look at the democrat's bench, look, joe biden is 79 years old and many people say, you know, just with some of his cognitive problems and some issues we see, even he looks tired. he looks like some of these trips are difficult for him, he shouldn't run again. but look at the bench and you wonder, they really don't have anybody that's like a knockout standout candidate. i mean, pete buttigieg is a joke. gavin newsom seems to be trying to raise money stepping up to the plate and kamala is saying i wasted the last year. i have to try and do something here. maybe get on the radar so she's really hitching her wagon to the abortion issue, but there's seems to be nobody there. >> well, they don't have somebody like ron desantis in

the republican race who seems to be favored by almost everybody who doesn't want donald trump to run in the republican race. you just don't have that in the democratic race, but you do have one thing, which is a sitting vice president of the united states. you say she doesn't appear on the polls. that's correct but she is the obvious successor to president biden who chose her to be vice president, and they were elected. i think it would be very, very hard for democrats if the president were to choose not to run, be hard for democrats to dump the sitting vice president of their own party. >> i hear what you're saying and i totally understand the logic behind it but having said that, people have said she had such a tremendous opportunity to step up to the plate, not only just as the first woman vice president and vice president of color as well and she really squandered her opportunity. some say joe biden put her in a bad spot and others say she wasn't up to the task. i have 10 seconds to answer,

byron. >> i think -- i'll repeat, very hard for democrats to dump the first woman vice president and first vice president of color. >> all right. we shall see. byron york, great to see you. >> thank you. all right, folks, i'm in for elizabeth mcdonald and you're watching the evening edit on fox business. that's it for us and have a wonderful evening. can't say i have bad news for you, sanities not -- santa's not womaning this year because sleepy joe ruined the economy. can the nation save christmas and hanukkah? the gdp went negative for the second consecutive quarter. this means -- drum roll please, we're technically in a recession according to the federal beam counters, the economy shrank by 0.9% in g2 after 1.6% in the

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