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sometimes you don't get the great moments in pro sports, go to little league, see kids reaches out. they understand the meaning of sports. wonderful moment. that does it for us on "fox business tonight." thank you for being here. i will be back tomorrow night with another show on the fox business channel. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. we got breaking news coming in. house oversight gop leader james comer, he is telling it the national archives preserve documents used for the fbi's raid on trump's mar-a-lago, for potential scrutiny. they and on the house gop oversight committee and also senator chuck grassley is demanding proof there was no political bias in this raid. anti-trump social media post surfaces by the judge who signed the search warrant. with us tonight former u.s. attorney guy lewis, former doj
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official france seen headaches. james comer, byron york, jamie mcbride, "the wall street journal" mary o'grady, former federal prosecutor katie jer cast ski. the president made another mistake trying to downplay inflation. this time he is doing that. new developments in the hunter biden probe, what lawmakers are planning to try to prove government bias in this. biden family abuses of power, get rich at taxpayer expense. vulnerable house democrats starting to balk at voter outrage. massive firepower democrats want for the irs will be used to audit middle and lower class americans. federal tax collections, hit an all-time high. we got a new poll coming in from pew research. voters demand the political divisions stop, cut it out. they're sick of it. chaos in california. protests at the l.a. city council over a safety measure.
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we've got the new video. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: thank you so much for joining us. take a check much your money. look at your stork portfolio. stocks are up. consumer prices cooled to 8 1/2% in july, still hot at a 40-year high. falling gas is helping here but the dow, look at this, is it exiting correction territory. the nasdaq is out of a bear market. we have high inflation for grocery prices and much more. we'll dig in later on the show. check tesla and twitter stock. reports elon musk raising cash, selling a whopping 32 billion-dollar in tesla stock over the last 10 months in case a court forces him to buy twitter. new details coming in on the fbi's raid on trump's mar-a-lago estate. fox news laura engle is live outside of trump tower in new york city. good to see you, laura. reporter: good to see you too.
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the former president had a very busy day today. after leaving early this morning hear from trump tower to meet with the new york attorney general. mr. trump being deposed to answer questions related to an investigation into the trump organization business practices. a spokesperson for the attorney general releasing a statement saying that the former mt. exercised his fifth amendment right to not answer questions on the grounds that he could incriminate himself. meanwhile on the mar-a-lago raid mr. trump posted this, a short time ago. in early june the doj and the fbi asked my legal representatives to put an extra lock on the door leading to the place where boxes were stored in mar-a-lago. we agreed. they were shown the secured area and the boxes themselves on monday, without notification or warning an army of agents broke into mar-a-lago, went to the same storage area around ripped open the lock that they had asked to be installed. a surprise attack.
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politics and all the while our country is going to hell. that is a quote. and there is new information on the raid at his mar-a-lago estate carried out monday by the fbi. "newsweek" now reporting that a person inside of mar-a-lago was working with agents as a confidential source and identified what classified documents the former president is accused of hiding and where they were stashed. also interesting to note that trump himself signed a law in 2018 that made it a felony to remove or retain classified documents. more as we get it. elizabeth: always great reporting from laura engle. thank you, laura. we have former prosecutor guy lewis and doj official, fancy hakes look, 10 of trump's picks won in gop primaries last night. he has 95% success rate. 156 have won since 2020.
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fancy, i want to get to you, house gop led by james comer telling the national archive you have to preserve records used in the raid. what is the fallout on this? pressure is growing on the white house and fbi why a records violation act justify a small battalion of 40 fbi agents, some with machine guns, what do you think of all this? >> that is a great way to put it small battalion of fbi, cadre with machine guns, long guns, backpacks apparently descending on the president's residence what everyone is agrees is unprecedented. even though it is unprecedented we heard nothing from fbi and doj i do not understand why they thought this was going to be fine and weren't prepared with a whole lot of public information immediately after the raid ended. we deserve to know. this was a former president. he was elected by the people. he got 70 some million votes in the second re-election bid and the public has a right to know
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what it is exactly that the fbi, who was after him and deceiving the public and the fisa court over the course of his term, what they say they have now, that merited this kind of action. elizabeth: what france seen is saying, guy, coincidentally at same time fbi seized the phone of trump ally representative scott perry. guy, from where you sit, is this about classified documents? or about the doj capitol riots probe? there is basis for fbi to get classified documents but the question is about these tactics. is this about the capitol riots probe or classified documents, what is it? >> it's politics. it is nothing but dirty politics. i mean you know, nixon could learn a few things from these nice. the doj, the rules inside it -- elizabeth: the point is, sorry, guy, hang on. why do they want the information? they have a sweeping get more information to go after trump
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for the capitol riots, probe? that is the question. >> they spent, i don't think the answer is they're going after trump for the capitol riots probe. i don't think there is a crime trump necessarily committed there. i do think that he's an opponent of sitting president who appointed the sitting attorney general of the united states and i think the conflict there is so apparent. why would they go after him? they spent two years trying to disqualify him in the russia probe. they spent a lot of time and effort to make trump a nonentity. elizabeth: they have got this too. senate judiciary ranking member chuck grassley spoke to fbi director christopher wray, france seen, the fbi credibility is again on the line. prior handling of prior political investigations. he is warning about political bias again and misconduct. the point here he is saying this is overshadowing the hard-working men and women who are agents in the bureau who
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have nothing to do with politics. they just want to catch the bad guys. >> liz, i hope that is true. i hope there are. i know there are thousands of fbi agents, men and women who do work hard. you had 30 agents on that raid. where are the whistle-blowers, if this is political as it was over the course of trump's presidency, where are the fbi whistle-blowers coming out saying these things violate policy, they violate norms, they maybe even violate laws? i don't see them coming -- elizabeth: we got whistle-blowers talking to senator chuck grassley about the hunter biden probe being blocked in d.c. headquarters because they're saying it is disinformation. who knows they may step forward if there is select committee as the house gop hopes to get back in control? >> i hope so, liz. they are coming forward about hunter biden but where were they when the fisa application was put in against carter page? what no one has ever talked about is that fisa application
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and warrant gave them permission to spy on the trump campaign, all the way in, two or three people into the trump campaign. what did they ever find? we never heard about the fisa take. we never heard a single agent step forward how andy mccabe lied or peter strzok lied. i worry about the organization that i loved and respected for my entire career. i don't know what happened to it. someone has to put a stop to the politicization of this bureau. elizabeth: we you can talked to a lot of fbi officials in new york field office in new york state, in d.c. guy, they do not like the politicization as they see it. they just want to catch bad guys, that's it. there is also this story, a federal judge in florida, judge bruce reinhardt who signed the search warrant, people are digging up facebook posts, social media posts in 2017 indicating bias against former president trump. there is that. we have trump pleading the fifth
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in the new york attorney general investigation whether trump organization and former president improperly inflated the value of assets. there is a lot going on here, guy. where is all of this heading? >> so you know any competent lawyer, liz, would have told him to plead the fifth given the witch-hunt going on in new york but, just like fancy, what follows me the fbi is not following their own rules. there is only one more intrusive method of investigation, that's a wiretap. otherwise search warrant itself, they had so many other different options, getting a judge involved, a subpoena, a civil matter, document requestions, frankly if i was in front of legal team, bryce reinhardt, i know who is magistrate judge i would ask it all be unsealed tomorrow. let everybody see it. if there is confidential informant, let them see it. if there is probable cause, let
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them see it. elizabeth: there is debate over that, whether or not the trump side of it is saying they were shown a search warrant from 10 feet away, then trump's lawyer was ordered to stand at the end of the driveway during this raid. we have new details what they took away. reports maybe, a letter from obama or kim jong-un? here is the timeline of legal battle over the records. back in january when they raided mar-a-lago, let me back up, they didn't raid mar-a-lago in january. they took items out of mar-a-lago, like a cocktail napkin, a phone list, memos, talking points, schedules, birthday dinner menu, you know what i mean? where do you see this headed? >> i have no idea, liz. guy is absolutely right. everyone should be concerned. does it really take 30 armed fbi agents to recover a cocktail napkin and dinner men use? this is shocking that the political establishment once again is going after someone who is probably going to run for president, trying to bring him
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down, trying to intimidate him and his supporters so they will not run for office, so they will not support him in his run for office. guy is right. this warrant has to come out. the after dave have it has to come it. we have to understand what is under this ex-toward case. elizabeth: chris christie says if underpinnings are there. lindsey graham demand more information. that americans deserve immediate investigation. watch trump's attorney with jesse watters last night. >> i can tell you he was not only working with them. he was cooperating there was nothing to hide. he was working in tandem, allowed them to mar-a-lago. the point is when he went in when he wasn't even there and told his attorneys to leave. they couldn't even be on premise. that doesn't sound good to me. >> there is letter from kim jong-un, letter from president obama, is that what is their after,.
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>> this is nara search. national archives. we're not talking about jim jimmy hoffa did he take documents discussing if aliens existed. i'm concerned they may have planted something. at this point who knows. i don't trust the government. elizabeth: there is no indication of that yet. guy, your final word because this is, they're putting this, they're tightening the, you know, tightening what is going on around trump. they're really going after him right now. so what's the fallout? where do you see, again, i have to ask you again, this indication we're seeing more serious than just a records raid. there is something else going on. >> if that's the case then let's, tell us who initiated the warrant? who first, whose idea was this? who authorized it? who wrote it up? who supervised it? was the ag informed? was chris wray involved? and did the president know about it. elizabeth: guy lewis, fancy
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headaches, thanks for joining us. good to see you. >> sure, liz. david: elizabeth: chaos breaks out in california. l.a. city council erupts in protest. more democrats refuse to endorse biden in 2024. the president made another mistake this time about inflation. mary o'grady from "the wall street journal" ahead on "the evening edit." >> do you want to see joe biden run for second term? >> he has to go. >> that is not going to take long. do you want to see jobe -- >> i don't want to answer because that's not, i don't want to answer that question. starter. or whatever this is. but the things that last a lifetime like happiness, love and confidence... you can't buy those. but you can invest in them. we believe that your investments should work harder for the future you imagine. and that's where our strategic investing approach can help.
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elizabeth: americans coast to coast they're really worried about inflation. there was a drop, a reported drop in july to 8 1/2% but democrats are pushing a new tax-and-spend bill and there is concern, is this really going to fix the u.s. economy? are we on the right track? have soaring prices finally peaked? edward lawrence at the white house with more. edward? reporter: yeah, liz, president joe biden giving himself a pat on the back saying that inflation is getting better but let's put this into perspective. when president biden came into office inflation was 1.4%. today it is 8.5% year-over-year but this is what we heard from the president today. president biden: the economic plan is working. second building an economy that
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will reward work. wages are up this month, provide opportunity, help the middle class and still have work to do but we're on track. reporter: wages are 5.2% over past 12 months. cpi inflation is up 5.8% during that time. you don't have to be an economist that inflation far outpaces wages. month over month energy prices fell but, we're still talking about huge numbers over the past 12 months. gasoline all types up 44%, fuel oil up 75.6% in that time frame. piped in natural gas, up 30.5%. this on top of the increase in food prices. just look at eggs, up 38% year-over-year. you see the other items that are on that list. people are making hard choices because the things that they want could be just too expensive. liz? elizabeth: wow, great reporting, edward lawrence thank you so much. the white house again sending out a confusing message on inflation. watch this. president biden: today we received news that our economy
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had zero percent inflation in the month of july. 0%. here is what that means. while the price of some things go up, went up last month, the price of other things went down by the same amount. the result is zero inflation last month. >> what i can say today is that inflation went up 0% in the month of july. look, no victory lap as you pointed out. there are still elevated prices in key areas. elizabeth: welcome to the show "wall street journal's" mary o'grady. mary, inflation is not at zero. they mean net zero. falling gas prices dropped but everything else is up especially food and groceries. highest since 1979 for that. >> they are trying to make a victory lap, let's admit it. you saw joe biden like he is reading off of a cue card but he is not acknowledging you know the continuing pain for most
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american consumers. let's talk about grocery prices. grocery prices were up 1.3% in the month of july. year-over-year more than 13%. that is the fastest increase in grocery prices since 1979. so this idea that somehow, you know, we had zero inflation as if everything is back to normal is insane. the other place where people are really feeling it is in rents. so when you look at the inflation number in the aggregate, you're saying, okay, used car prices are no longer going up but you can't eat a used car. hopefully you're not living in one. you know rents are really out of control in a lot of places and people, that is a big part of someone's monthly budget. so people are really feeling that pain. elizabeth: now you got senator bernie sanders refusing to say whether he will endorse biden for 2024. let's watch this. >> do you want to see president
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biden, senator, run for a second term? >> what i want to see right now is that the congress of the united states working with president biden next year, develop an agenda that says to working families and the elderly and the kids, we understand your pain. >> let me rephrase the question. do you want to see him run for re-election? >> look, right now my concern is electing more democrats in this midterm election so we can finally address the needs of working families. that is where my mind is right now. elizabeth: gang, show the viewer, mary, we'll talk about this polls show majority of voters saying you know what, d.c.? you're still so remarkably out of touch. democrat bases even hispanics saying stop big government. it is too big. you're pushing a political agenda. new surveys out of pew research we need bipartisanship, stop the
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division, stop the hostility, we need moderation. what do you say, mary? >> i think a lot of this is sort itself out as we see the inflation reduction act go into, you know, into, into play because you know, when you're trying to fight inflation you have two things to do, one, control monetary aggregate and basically, pull back on the throttle in terms of what the fed does, but you also want to incentivise producers so that you, that supply goes up so you want to pull back on demand in terms of a monetary aggregate but you want to increase supply and you know, this inflation reduction act which is really a democrat, they own this. they own it pure and simple. is going to basically discourage production which is going to have a result on inflation
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elizabeth: joining us now fox news contributor byron york. always a pleasure to have you on. it is good to see. >> you thank you. elizabeth: the trump raid right on mar-a-lago, fbi raid, it put more focus what the democrats are doing doubling the size of irs, d.c. sources coming in house democrats who are vulnerable they don't like giving firepower to the irs. they don't like higher taxes, oil, gas, spending bill they will vote on to finalize this friday. what are you hearing? >> that is exactly right. democrats have long wanted to beef up the irs. you remember the "build back better" bill, that failed, even bigger than inflation reduction act, it also included a provision to greatly expand the irs. as a matter of fact the treasury department did a study of the bill and that is where this figure of 87,000 new employees
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came, came from the treasury department itself. and if you listen to democrats the reason people are getting nervous, democrats will say only people who are affected will be wealthy tax cheats. that is the phrase they like to use, wealthy tax cheats but if you look at the audits that the irs conducted in 2021, just last year, 51% of them were of taxpayers with income less than $75,000 a year. another 26% were in taxpayers less than $200,000 a year. that is 77% of the audits people under 200,000 a year. elizabeth: right. so they're beefing up irs when federal tax collections are all-time high. having covered the irs for decades, it is easy to audit the lower and middle income classes because it is computer automated. they can't afford irs lawyers and accountants to defend themselves. so that is what is going on. this is a quick correspondence
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exam for the mail. >> it is also, it is a way to make the money. the money in the united states, and we've always know this when we're talking about tax policy or tax collection policy, the money is in the big fat middle class. that is where the most people are. there simply aren't enough millionaires and billionaires to raise the kind of money that the democrats are talking about. so i think people have a reasonable fear, if they are in a solid middle income bracket, that they have a greater chance of being audited if they're 87,000 more irs employees. elizabeth: you know, something like the top 20% already pay 84% of federal income tax revenues. let's watch voters, constituents and democrat representative in alexandria ocasio-cortez's new york district. they're weighing in. they don't like what is going on. you're going to listen to them really upset about the democrat move to get rid of the tax hike on billionaires.
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that is the tax hike hitting private equity in order to get democrats krysten sinema vote on blowing out the irs and government. watch this. >> billionaires are the people with power to really change whatever it is we're trying to change f they're not going to pay whatever it is their share, we shouldn't vote forfeit that is something that you know, not being addressed. >> the whole bill is a mess. >> all it is a feel-good bill so the democrats can say they did something and maybe they won't do so badly in the primaries. in the upcoming elections. elizabeth: you know what? word is out, byron this is what is going on. they want to nearly double the size of the irs with a workforce bigger than the state department, the fbi, customs and border protection and the pentagon combined. >> yeah. and this is criticism coming from the left, what we just heard, which was, when, when the irs really was going to go after
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rich people senator sinema objected and democrats because they only have 50 seats in the house, they don't even have 51. cannot lose a single senator, they had to give in to senator sinema's wishes. so this move against so-called carried interest, which would affect people who make their money from investments as opposed to from salaries, working people, it went away and so now you have progressives like bernie sanders, like alexandria ocasio-cortez, who are unhappy from that point of view. elizabeth: they're about big government. they want to pay for big government, getting irs to go after everybody else, never mind a leaky awful border, never mind military problems of military re ruts. more money for their spending priorities. that is how voters see it. >> democrats always wanted to figure out new ways to ring
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money out of the american taxpayer but what's going on here is really interesting, you know. last year, when the "build back better" bill came out "the new york times" asked john koskinen who was the irs commissioner under president obama and trump who often complained about the irs which he said was underfunded. he wanted more money for the irs. they said well how much do you need? he said $25 billion over the next 10 years would take care of it. well the democrats have just created $80 billion over the next 10 years. elizabeth: tripled it. byron york, great to have your analysis. good to see you. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: staying on this story, the track record of pushing to politicize the fbi it's now in focus after the fbi raid on trump's mar-a-lago home. plus new developments in the hunter biden investigations. what house gop leaders are
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threatening to do. we have congressman james comer on the mar-a-lago raid and hunter biden coming up next. >> we didn't see anything happen with hunter biden. the evidence is overwhelming that we have pay-to-play going on. the investigation on hunter biden has been going on almost four years now. ♪. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates,
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rationale was. all communication between the national archives and the department of justice as well as the fbi because this is very serious. the concern from what i've gathered from the national archives is that the president may have taken classified information. the president of the united states determines what's classified and what isn't classified. so my concern is, liz, that we have some librarians at the national archives who probably don't like president trump, who ordered an fbi raid and this is very serious because there is always instances of former presidents taking things maybe the national archives wasn't happy with. we know hillary and bill clinton took a lot of furniture with them when they left. i'm not saying that is right. what the fbi did to the former president of the united states is unprecedented. it looks like another black eye on the fbi, another example of the fbi politicizing and going after president biden's enemies.
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this is something that we want to get to the bottom of -- elizabeth: are they going to stonewall you? they could stonewall you? >> they could stonewall us. i'm not sure they want to do a whole lot before january. if they're watching in tv, they know in january the republicans will be majority. we will have subpoena power. we have jurisdiction over the national archives. they are supposed to come before the oversight committee whenever we ask for anything. they know what is coming. i believe we'll get to the bottom of this sooner or later. elizabeth: let's move on to this. you talk about subpoena power. house minority leader kevin mccarthy, threatening subpoena power, you guys will call in the 51 intelligence agencies chiefs why they defended hunter biden and his laptop as russian disinformation. is it going to be subpoenas here? voters are seeing essentially that the president is allegedly, allegedly let hunter biden fly on air force two to do overseas business deals to make the biden
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family richer, to get more money into the biden family with secret service detail i might remind you. people are saying what is with middle class joe? he keeps talking about income inequality but let that happen? >> right. and remember, we announced that we were going to have those 51 former intelligence officials before the committee prior to what the fbi did yesterday. so this, there was already an on going probe into the politicization of the fbi and the intelligence community because clearly, from this laptop, which we have in our possession, house oversight committee. hunter biden violated many laws and it's clear that joe biden not only knew lot about what hunter biden was doing but he helped facilitate these deals. joe biden could be in significantly more trouble than donald trump in the deep state's worst dreams. elizabeth: what are you finding in the laptop?
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you have the laptop, what are you finding? >> you got the bank violations. you've got where he was making pitches to the chinese on american energy companies in america. he did the deal in the congo with rare either mineral thing. everything that hunter biden did was trying to take american company get it in the hands of the chinese company, our biggest adversary this is another example of joe biden and biden family putting america last and china first. elizabeth: congressman, got it. good to see you. >> thanks. elizabeth: chaos in los angeles. you will see the l.a. city council, the video coming in erupting in protests. we'll show you what happened. lapd detective jamie mcbride next on "the evening edit".
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desperately trying to restore order. we're showing footage of a los angeles city council erupting into chaos. dozens of activists didn't like a new law that would stop homeless encam papments near schools and day-care centers. what is the reaction to the story? >> first of all it is bandaid on bigger problem we have with the homeless in los angeles. what some of the city council is trying to do now, move homeless encampments away from schools. i've personally seen, during school hours, as people are coming to school, a homeless person come out after tent, pull his pants down, start urinating facing the kids. i've seen needles discarded near the schools. i've seen people use methaphetamine in front of the school. it is out of control. so these protesters are saying it is not fair to the homeless people. you know what we need to do, move homeless encampments into their backyards, see how long it
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takes to see what they're advocating for. it is not safe for the children. there is bigger picture in los angeles. elizabeth: show what happened. an activist was arrested at meeting. watch the chaos. [shouting] [bleep] >> you people [bleep]. >> do we have jail support for our -- >> we the people have a voice. 41.18. abolish 41.18. elizabeth: talk to us more about what you just said there, there is more going on here? what did you mean? >> well, you know it is not just the schools. so city of los angeles, we have a lot of socialists, council members, we have a district attorney george gascon is not filing or holding anybody accountable for crimes. we have the aclu who has sued, sued the law enforcement of the city saying we can't go into the tents. we have gang members have taken over areas with homeless tents. they have prostitution being run out of there, drug sales being run out of there but this
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homeless problem is a huge issue here. not just around the schools. just the other day also i saw a family of tourist with luggage on wheels, go in the street of traffic because there was no room on the sidewalk to walk. it is a big, big problem. this is a small bandaid. they're trying to move them away. city of los angeles, socialist council members make it easy for people to come to los angeles, be homeless, go into convenience stores without being held accountable. other areas know this. they come all over the place to be in los angeles. they all live on the street. we have a large population of homeless are mentally ill. a lot are on narcotics. we want to get people mentally i'll help. some of these people don't want help. they love living on the street, they are not held accountable to pay taxes. get free mid-walking into the store. it's a bigger problem. we have to start at top of our city leaders. they have to be held accountable for problems they made in the city of los angeles you can't
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have a business here without smelling urine in front of restaurants. elizabeth: the priority is protecting children. priority is protecting children. we're hearing, tell us if we're wrong, hundreds of millions of dollars from los angeles is going into bridge home shelters, tiny home villages more for the homeless, is that what is going on affordable housing projects? >> well i haven't seen it yet but to be quite honest with you, again if they start building things, they're making it easier for people to come from all over the united states to california to come to los angeles t will create a bigger problem. >> got it. terrific interview. >> that is the problem we're seeing. elizabeth: jamie mcbride, terrific interview. thanks for joining us. come back soon. we're get being to the track record of the push to politicize the fbi. that is the focus. lawmakers like chuck grassley are calling it out. this is calling out the trump mar-a-lago raid by the fbi. katie cher kaskey is ahead on "the evening edit." >> i think this is an attack on
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liz: we've got this news coming in, senator chuck grassley talking to the fbi director saying you've got to explain the raid of trump's florida home, mar-a-lago, to show and prove it's not tainted by political bias. that's where we're at in this country that, you know, this records act violation had hardball tactics of machine guns and battalion of at least 30 fbi agents going into trump's mar-a-lago home. there's questions now about is this a politicized fbi doing it. this is a bad situation for the nation to be in. >> oh, absolutely. the doj is absolutely creating an unnecessary rift in the country by failing to set the record straight and explaining what this is all about, what this unprecedented raid of a former president's home under it seems the pretext of a very minor legal act at all. the doj can make a statement and no law or regulation that
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merrick garland doesn't comment on the investigation and by choosing to do so they're allowing that narrative to connell and what else is the american people supposed to think at this point? obviously i think the answer is pretty clear. liz: katie, sources are saying this is about the capitol riots and they're using a documents records retention search to get information about that. this is the same statute that hillary clinton violate when had she kept a private e-mail server in her home while secretary of state. the fbi never raided clinton's home even though she had evidence and dozens of classified e-mails. what is the fallout if this is a cover for the capitol riots probe? >> well, i think it's very clear what this is doing to our country here. it's obvious to most people at this point that it seems like a pretext for something to do with january 6 more so than any alleged violation of classified records or presidential records act, which is technically a
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federal statute, but there's a huge question about whether a former president could even be prosecuted at all let alone for something that's never been by the doj prosecuted to this extent in the past. so the optics are material, the doj has done nothing to clarify that, and they know very well what the message is being sent and perhaps that's not a mistake at all. liz: during the trump russia probe, we've found a lot of problems with politicized fbi officials sending text messages and more. we had a 2019 internal fbi audit found that fbi agents broke their own rules nearly at least nearly 750 times over the prior 18 month period. you saw that, you know, chuck grassley recently said whistle blowers in the fbi, doj told his office that the dc headquarters, officials there were stone walling the hunter biden probe claiming, oh, it's just
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disinformation. we're not going to pursue it. there seems to be a record here, and it's troubling. >> oh, it's incredibly troubling and i think the credibility of the fbi and doj is on the line herement they've done nothing touchdown pass send a message that it's nothing more than a political pretext or a january 6 pretext. perhaps that's the only thing that the american people are looking for so we were left with obvious answers that this looks very much political more than an actual administration of justice for criminal purposes. i completely agree. i think that the siren speaks volumes here, and there's nothing more to read into it aside from an unprecedented action against a political rival of the current president. liz: the fbi does amazing work. they stop drug gangs, catch bad guys night and day. they're on the front lines of crime. we talked to so many fbi officials and agents who say we do not agree with what's going on with the dc field office, the
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headquarters, politicizing the fbi. they do not like their reputation of the bureau in any way. there's so many people in the fbi that defend the fbi ando tho protect its integrity. they've talked to us saying, we don't like it and they feel terrible about what's going on. what are your thoughts about that, katie? >> well, i think that law enforcement obviously serves an incredibly important function here but any sort of investigative errors or credibility attacks on law enforcement will undermine prosecution at the highest level whatsoever. if the fbi and doj are moving ahead in the case, they better have is dotted and ts crossed and no room for mistakes whatsoever if they can get to that point. but from what we've seen, it seems the intent is to attempt to move forward with an indictment and that's what i read into with the search warrant that was issued.
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liz: you're saying an indictment of trump? >> i think that that would be the initial intent going in and obviously we don't know if final decisions are made and seeking a search warrant, you have to prevent probable cause that a prime was committed. that's been prevented by the fbi here. certainly i think it's a real shame that it does undermine ---liz: katie, thank you so much. kennedy: another night, more crap. american people demanding answers about this block buster raid on donald trump's home and the fbi doesn't care and neither does the white house. so much for joe biden's promise for complete transparency and i'll unit everyone by being transparent and it's been more than 48 hours since we learned federal agents executed a search warrant at mar-a-lago and still, not one peep from fbi director christopher wray or attorney general merrick garland.
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