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because i always get caught, my wife gets mad. my advice, don't try that because your wife always catches you. that does it for "fox business tonight." thank you for letting us into your living room. "the evening edit" starts right now! ♪. elizabeth: happening now, attorney general garland creates even more controversy as he breaks his silence on the fbi's over the top raid on trump's florida home. d.c. sources call the raid a spectacular backfire. politicized, also tonight the dramatic shift in the fbi's culture that made it more prone to bias and partisan politics w us tonight congressman jason smith, greg stuebe, michael cloud, olympic gold medalist, former california gubernatorial candidate caitlyn jenner.
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andrew mccarthy, former fbi special agent john and wall street pro carol roth. white house is plotting new narrative on inflation t will infuriate you even more. it is blasted for claiming inflation is zero. it is up 8.5%. the outrage over irs audits of the middle class after senate democrats rejected gop amendments to stop that. the lapd dramatically cuts its homicide division, the detectives there despite spikes in violent crimes and murders. the new scramble to fix the disasterous defund police push in california as voters slam california governor newsom and weak on crime d.a. george gascon. you will not believe what gascon is saying now. plus the migrant bus fight intense filing. texas governor greg abbott, tells new york city mayor eric adams, don't blame me, blame
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biden. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: we have a jam-packed show tonight. we'll with your money. stocks ending mixed today. july producer reports wholesale prices coming in below expectations. more signs of cooling inflation, boosting hopes on wall street for smaller federal reserve interest rate hikes. we got new details coming in former president trump has until 3:00 p.m. tomorrow to tell the doj if it can unseal the search warrant on his florida home after the fbi raided it. ag garland says he wants to reveal the search warrant. laura engle is live outside of trump tower in new york city with more. laura? reporter: good evening in an effort to clear up some questions about the chain of events leading up to that fbi raid on monday attorney general merrick garland held a press conference today talking about
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his role in it was and about wanting to unseal the search warrant. listen. >> first i personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. second, the department does not take such decision lightly. reporter: the raid on monday was related to the national archives and records administration's effort to collect classified materials the former president allegedly took with him from washington, d.c., to mar-a-lago. after several days of protests and suspicion attorney general garland says the decision to file the motion requesting the warrant be unsealed was made amid substantial public interest. he also announced as you mentioned he has filed a motion to unseal the search warrant and property receipt from that raid. mr. trump, wasting no time responding online saying his attorneys and representatives were cooperating fully before the raid adding this, the government could have had whatever they wanted if they had it. they asked us to put an
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additional lock on a certain area, done, explanation mark. everything was fine. better than that of most previous presidents and then out of nowhere and with no warning mar-a-lago was raided. a fox news has learned from a federal law enforcement source the probable cause for the search warrant very likely came from a secret service member. as you said, the former president has his legal team has until 3:00 tomorrow to decide if they will be on board with the doj unsealing that warrant. back to you. elizabeth: great reporting, laura. thank you so much. joining us former assistant u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy and former fbi special agent john ianerelli. thanks for having you on. first to you, andrew, why, why did he do the search warrant? >> i don't think we're going to know that for a while, liz, no matter what they put out. my own view this is related to january 6th and the fact
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that they had a basis to seek a search warrant on classified documents gave them a legitimate reason to get a warrant, at least under the law, whether it is like, whether it was a smart thing to do or a politically wise thing to do is another matter but i really think what they're, i don't think you can separate this out from everything else that happened the last six weeks which include three search warrants, both before and after the mar-a-lago search that are related to january 6th and last week two grand jury subpoenas that were issued to members of the trump white house counsel's office. it's clear that they're trying to ratchet up activity and make a case on january 6th. i think this gave them the ability to do it and that explains the timing. elizabeth: yeah, democrats lofgren telling cnn this could overlap, what happened in mar-a-lago could overlap with the january 6 probe but, john, no one has earned our trust.
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no one has earned the viewers trust here. not biden, not obama, not the fbi, not the doj. even the doj inspector general found major problems with the fbi acting wrung fully in trump russia. we need to stick with the facts. ag garland says trump deserves presumption of innocence. how is it presumption of innocence showing up 30 fbi agents with machine guns to raid his home? >> liz, first of all let's be very clear, the fbi does not do anything unilaterally. there has to be a government attorney that approves everything that's taking place and rest assured that is coming directly from the ag's office. likewise when the agents go out to do searches, regardless of how we feel about it, there are protocols they have to follow. it's a big property. a lot of places to be searched. you need a number of agents, including keeping the place secure working working with thet service to make sure nobody wanders into the search scene.
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agents can't deviate from that. they have to follow that whether searching president's property and or searching somebody's house. elizabeth: eric trump said they deviated from that and went into unauthorized areas. ag garland said about applying the law evenly. where is the search on hillary's law? >> no. obviously they haven't applied it, they haven't applied it even-handedly, and what happens people in the country angry the two-tiered system of justice we have. they can't look at people in the eye to say this is even-handed. garland said today on his watch it has been but clearly, for example, the people who carried out the capitol riot, i don't have a brief for those people but they were treated very differently. they were treated much more harshly than people who engaged in rioting following the george floyd incident in the weeks and months that went on after that. so the idea there has been even-handed justice here is a
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joke. but, we're not going to know the answers to this. they will put the warrant out. i guess it was a good move on garland's part to throw the ball in trump's court because at anytime over the last day or, however long it's been i guess since monday president trump could have published this warrant, he could have made it public. i guess the fact he hadn't done that indicated to garland, the justice department would look good pushing to do it. elizabeth: don't we need the affidavit too? >> of course we need it but you know the way the criminal justice system works, this is much better at least than the fisa situation where you know, they go to a secret court and there is no defense and we never find out about it because it is all classified. elizabeth: yeah. >> in the criminal justice system we hope we get honorable performance from the prosecutors and the agents but what keeps people honest is the process and the fact that you know people are going to be checking your work. elizabeth: got it. >> eventually everything is
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going to be revealed. defense lawyers will go over it f they committed misconduct we'll find out about it. elizabeth: i mean yeah that is what the issue is going to be, right, john? "newsweek," they got it wrong. they said christopher wray green-lighted it. it was merrick garland. they're quoting a 30 year veteran of the fbi eye who called the raid spectacular backfire. they waited for former president trump out of town in order to avoid a media circus. that is astounding this is already unprecedented and historic there is nothing routine about this. if this is true they said that they're so remarkably out of touch maybe they shouldn't be in their jobs? >> i have never seen a situation where i would wait until the person is out of town. if anything you want that person to be in town because you never know what they're going to say while you're conducting the search. it gives you another opportunity to gather information. regardless this could be the most reliable search warrant the
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fbi has ever written, the implications and the way it appears politically. and i'm not saying the search warrant is good. it may be something that there has been information provided to the fbi that turns out that it's incorrect but the politics, the way it appears, the way it politicizes the fbi, it is hurting the rank-and-file agents who do great jobs preventing them from continuing to do their jobs because this perception the fbi is political. elizabeth: that is an important point. you know, andrew, reports that trump's team said it was already cooperating with a grand jury subpoena. why do a raid with a battalion of 30 agents with machine guns over a records violation? >> because it is not over a records violation. first of all the presidential records act is not a criminal statute. you can't get a search warrant for something that is not a crime. so the only crime evidently that is pled in the search warrant
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involves classified information which isn't just like ordinary government records but as i said before i don't think that is what this is about. i don't think you can separate out the way they ratcheted up the january 6 investigation the last six weeks. it can't be like this had nothing to do with january 6 and then just a day after, on a street in pennsylvania they two up to a member of congress, and give him a search warrant and take his cell phone away and that is clearly part of the january 6 investigation. elizabeth: we hear you. >> trump is the eye of the storm as far as that is concerned for the justice department. so it can't be that this has nothing to do with january 6 and everything else does. elizabeth: john what do you think, final word? >> final word is, the fact that this is all being politicized as i said. the fbi is being put in this untenable position. director wray should be pushing back to the doj look, agents should not do something so
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unprecedented, there are mechanisms for this. let the attorneys argue it out and try to get whatever they're seeking that way. unfortunately that wasn't done. elizabeth: andrew mccarthy, john eye an really. thanks for joining us. elizabeth: migrant bus fight enintensifying. greg abbott sells eric adams don't blame me, blame biden. biden is lasted for claim something zero. it is 8.5%. at a 40-year high. lawmakers getting ready to vote on their ham-handed inflation reduction act, miserably named, so incorrect. wall street pro carol next on "the evening edit." >> if they pass the bill, talking almost 4 trillion, $4 trillion of new spending under biden. that is much as much as it cost, brian, too fight world war ii
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duckduckgo: privacy, simplified. elizabeth: "axios" the biden white house is planning another new narrative on inflation. inflation sticking at a 40-year high. guess who they will try to blame? we will get to this after a reporter hit. bill clinton says take credit if inflation goes down. that is a wacky story. edward lawrence in washington with more.
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reporter: biden administration on a tour to pat itself on the back that moved inflation prices and gas prices lower no mention that the president's policies contributed to the problem. look at chart of cpi inflation, from the moment president biden took office it started to shoot up. at 40-year high the president is celebrating that the inflation fell back to 8 1/2%. the price of gallon of gas falls below $4 first time since march 5th. that is 81 cents more than a year ago. >> they're not changing their economic policies. they're continuing to regulate. they're continuing to increase or decrease the supply of energy so that people have to lower how much energy they use. this is impacting the calculuses of families that choose not to get on the road. unfortunately we've got more of that to come in the years ahead with this administration. reporter: as summer comes to a close americans might be shocked by the next set of energy bills that will start coming. the price of fuel oil to heat homes is up 75.6%, piped in
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natural gas is up 30.5% and the cost of electricity is up 15.2%. but the president claiming that there is zero inflation and his policies are working. liz? elizabeth: edward lawrence thank you. joining us now wall street pro, author of the book, the war on small business" carol roth back with us. carol, good to see you. "axios" the white house is coming up with another new narrative about inflation, about blame republicans, blame the trump agenda, blame the drug industry, big corporations oil and gas companies and claim they're for the little guy. what do you think? >> i mean we had such litany hard to keep track t was transitory t was good for you. it was consumers fault. it is greedy businesses fault. it was putin's fault. anybody possibly be blamed will get blamed.
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at some point they will tell us bread lines is a great way to meet your neighbors, any way they spin this to be in their favor. unfortunately anything that doesn't take any responsibility for a big chunk of it which is biden's energy policy. elizabeth: carol, listen to the other new democrat line, don't worry, no reason to worry, we have zero inflation. watch this. >> the president in my vision for the foot also means lowering costs for americans. today we learned that last month our economy had 0% inflation. >> today we received news that our economy had 0% inflation in the month of july. 0%. >> inflation went up 0% in the month of july. elizabeth: when is congress going to call them out for the lies? they're talking about net inflation, right? gas prices dropping bringing inflation to net zero, rather. he drained the strategic reserves. is needed for natural disasters
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like hurricanes, not biden's falling polls. the average cost of all those barrels was around 29 bucks. now taxpayers will have to spend triple that to replace what biden sold. >> yeah, it's crazy after zero percent inflation. we'll go into the scrooge mcduck rooms to swim around in our gold because inflation stopped. the nuance was there was no growth in the inflation rate from june to july but we're still at this near historic high of 8.5% year-over-year. they think where people are finding that really disingenuous it is obviously that it is a permanent tax on the american people and they are struggling. so the fact that they're taking a victory lap on that right now is very, very concerning. as you were saying a lot of this is coming from the demand destruction, not just from here in the u.s., liz, but there are countries around the world that have been rationing energy where, they have massive
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blackouts. that demand side is what is bringing down the price of energy. it may just be temporary. elizabeth: carol, what happens when this backfires? i mean they're going to move on it tomorrow the inflation reduction act. what happens when the americans see democrats bill did nothing to stop inflation at the supermarket, at the gas station, shop for schoolchildren in the new year? price cuts don't kick in until 2024. what happens after this backfires and americans say this isn't working? >> it will be sustained inflation, more inflation, we really need people to speak up and reject more spending from congress. i mean if you think about the amount that they're collecting this year, projecting to collect $4.4 trillion from us as taxpayers. if you went back to what we've spent in 2018 we would have a 300 billion-dollar surplus.
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if you went back to 2019, we would be break even. but even at that level they just keep spending more and more and putting us in a worse financial situation and none of this is going to stop, liz, until the people stand up and say enough. you have enough money stop this. elizabeth: carol roth, good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> always a pleasure. elizabeth: the new scramble to fix what is going on in california after that disasterous defund police push. we've got homicides and robberies spiking by double digits. voters there are screaming get rid of weak on crime d.a. george gascon. you won't believe what he is saying now. olympic gold medalist, former california gubernatorial candidate caitlyn jenner next on "the evening edit." ♪
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adding 87 million this year and now an increase in hollywood where homicides are up 75%. underscoring that violence, an officer was shot in the face last night after a 911 call of two brothers fighting. also injured a relative and neighbor hit by shrapnel. the shooter surrendered after deputies used a flashbang and moved in. the injured officer is in stable condition. on monday a gunman tried to rob, kill an off-duty officer leaving the jim. the suspect, 20-year-old carlos who was a felon arrested in december and released the next day. two months later police arrested him again for burglary with assault with a deadly weapon. a judge sentenced him to 180 days in jail. he was released again the next day. allowing him to shoot the officer five times when the officer wouldn't give him money. the national police organization
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says 45% more cops are retiring early and resignations are up 20% over the prior year. as some believe that being in police work is no longer a career for them. liz? elizabeth: william la jeunesse, thank you so much. welcome to the show olympic gold medalist, former california gubernatorial candidate, caitlyn jenner. welcome to the show. thank you so much for coming on. >> i know, i finally made it on the show. i know we've been trying to getting together for a long time and of course we'll talk crime in california. it is going crazy out here. elizabeth: what is your reaction to that report? >> well, you know we've gone this defund the police, defund the police. they cut $150 million out. just a couple days ago the l.a. city council says oh, we're going to fund our police because they're quitting, they're retiring, they're moving on. and so they give in hollywood area because hollywood has had a tremendous spike in crime, you
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just mentioned a second ago, homicides are up 75%. thefts are up 25%. i mean the list goes on and on. so we're going to do the right thing. we're going to fund our police. we're going to give them some extra money. what do they come up with? $216,000. they cut 150 million. and so, i'm thinking to myself that sounds like nothing, you know, for the police department. so i called a good friend of mine who was, he is retire now but was on the police force and i said, is $216,000 a lot of money? so we started crunching the numbers, it came out to 216,000 would put 13 more officers on duty for one month. and they think that is going to solve the problem. elizabeth: that's it? >> yeah. it's nothing but, i have, you know for the last two years i've studied california politics and
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every time i look at it it is just, it's a scam, it is an absolute scam. and they do this forepublicity. the democrats are going, oh, we're funding the police when really they're doing absolutely nothing. elizabeth: caitlyn, you're right, we wanted you on the show a long time. we're watching what is going on. gores gascon is talking about the recall of chesa boudin, san francisco weak-on-crime d.a. there, and george gascon saying chesa boudin got it wrong. he talk too much about the data should be talking about feelings. what does he mean chesa boudin should talk about feelings and emotions? lapd is slashing detectives in the homicide division to 10. these guys worked on "the black dahlia" manufactureds, the charlie manson murders. crime is a number one issue. you say gavin newsom has the
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sonsability, why do you say that? >> eventually comes down to gavin newsom. george gascon has been an absolute disaster. they needed 563,000 signatures. they got over 700,000. boudin up in san francisco, the d.a. up there, this very woke liberal d.a., he was just recalled, which is good. and gascon is going to be the next one to be recalled. we have to get tough on crime. he is not tough on crime. he is a george soros-backed d.a. who is very soft own crime -- on crime. the city, responsibility for the safety of this city is the d.a. and he has just failed and failed and failed for the last couple of years. so we hope here in november, please, california voters, make sure you get rid of him. the one great guy that i have met is alex villanueva, the
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sheriffs department, head of the l.a. sheriffs department. this guy is absolutely great. tough on crime but he gives his criminals over to the d.a. and they just kind of let them go. he is very frustrated. he has done so much in this city to help clean up the city when it comes to the homeless issue, especially in venice. now they're trying to get rid of him. the city council is literally trying to get rid of him. they put him on the ballot in november to, to be able to get rid of him and fire him. and that would be the worst thing ever for the city of los angeles. elizabeth: we know you love california. you've been fighting for it hard, right? it is just, really a tragedy what we see going on there. are people listening to you, caitlyn? are people hearing what you're saying? >> well, here we have such a woke state i keep saying so many things, sometimes you repeat yourself so many times you say,
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oh, am i getting anywhere but i think the people of california are pretty much sick of what is happening here. we are the wokest state in the union. we have terrible leadership. we have crime, homelessness, hopefully people will wake up and you know, it goes to the ballot box. if you want to fix things you got to get the right people in place. you got to go to the ballot box and vote. elizabeth: caitlyn jenner, love your passion. good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> liz, always good to see you. elizabeth: same here, the outrage over senate democrats rejecting gop amendments to stop irs audits of lower and middle income class workers in order to pay for democrat spending. congressman jason smith next on "the evening edit". ♪.
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straight-shooter, he is congressman jason smith. congressman, thanks for joining us. it is good to see you. >> good to see you, liz. elizabeth: why do the democrats want a more powerful irs to audit people? the government took in 1.3 trillion this year. that is up 13%. half of that is individual income taxes. so what are they doing? >> liz, it is all about more command-and-control over the lives of all americans. in fact $80 billion in this horrible spending bill being voted on in congress tomorrow is going hire87 thou new irs agents. who will they target? they will target working class families, it is projected, projected, families that make less than $75,000 a year they will see an additional 700,000 families that will be audited underneath this. you're talking about spending 14
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times more of that $80 billion for enforcement rather than customer service. i think people want customer service out of the irs. they don't want them to come in to look underneath every couch cushion to see if they're hiding a couple pennys. >> senator john kennedy along with you, they have been, he has been outraged about this. let's listen to senator kennedy. watch. >> with respect to the irs the purpose of the irs provisions in senator biden and senator manchin's inflation machine been is to raise money, just plain and simple. they're going to unleash irs on the american people to raise money. now president biden of course says well we're only going to unleash the irs on the wealthy. with respect if he believes that he also believes in the tooth fairy, the easter bunny and the jimmy hoffa died of natural causes. i just don't believe that. elizabeth: so he doesn't believe it. why doesn't he believe it?
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>> you know i always appreciate how senator kennedy uses his words and he is exactly right, i don't believe it. they are, they are putting $80 billion to the irs with the expectation that they're going to bring in $200 billion. the only reason why you would bring in $200 billion is because you're finding more money from taxpayers by having a more aggressive audits, numerous more audits. that is in fact what they're going to do. senator kennedy is dead on. it is about targeting hard-working americans. elizabeth: we have news coming in. by the way, rich, wealthy, they can afford accountants and tax lawyers. the middle class and lower income can't. so they're left vulnerable. senate democrats consistently rejected gop amendments to stop the irs from targeting people making less than 400-k a year. now this news coming in, treasury secretary janet yellen saying she will direct the irs not to use new funding to audit
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lower middle class and lower income taxpayers. how strong is that? >> they're having reality. people are figuring out what is in the 700 page bill they're trying to push through congress without the american people knowing about it and there a lot of pushback. americans do not want the irs to be doubled. they do not want 87,000 more agents. yesterday in the rules committee hearing we were in for three hours, the democrats were trying to justify this is about customer service not enforcement. only 4% of the 80 billion is only for customers service. elizabeth: what do they want to justify for, $370 billion on climate spending for what? where is all that money going? >> that is a great question, obama's appointed irs commissioner say at the most you need $25 million. so biden is asking, 25 billion.
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so biden is asking for three times that amount. you're looking at the spending bill of 745 billion. more than 400 billion of this spending bill goes towards implementing the green new deal. 1 1/2 billion dollars is to plant trees. the wasteful projects that is in it, how it es rewarding wealthy environmentalists is absurd. this bill says the word environment and green seven times of what they address inflation. this is not and inflation reduction act this is and inflation expansion act. >> congressman smith, thanks for joining us. good to see you. >> good to see you, liz. >> backstory, the shift, dramatic shift in the fbi's culture, did it make it prone to partisan politics and bias in washington? plus the migrant bus fight intensifying, texas governor greg abbott, tells new york city mayor eric adams, don't blame me, blame biden.
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mayors. they said borders are racist and get a couple busloads into their communities, oh, we need to call in the national guard all of sudden when we have thousands streaming across the border every single day. the hypocrisy out of this is crazy. the biden administration has refused to do anything substantial when it comes to securing the border. elizabeth: you're saying it is easier to have moral vanity when arizona, texas, border states are footing the bill? >> for sure. elizabeth: he is saying invited them to come down. the biden hasn't been there. the mayors won't go to the border either. >> the truth is they do want a buffer between them and the border. they want that to be texas. texas realize there is is no real space, just a river. we need infrastructure at the border to manage the security after the border to keep the illegal element out of our communities and our families and our schools and, you know, so,
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again, it's just the moment they see it, the faux compassion gets exposed. the truth it is not compassion to aid and abet cartels. it is not compassion to let fentanyl pour into our communities to kill tens of thousands. it is not compassion to incentivize an illegal process that profits cartels to the tunes of 100 million a month while we let communities suffer and deal with the consequences. they're just getting a small taste behalf we're dealing with constantly. elizabeth: fentanyl is pouring across. it is leading cause of death for americans 18 to 45. we have hundreds of illegal immigrants dying as they try to get into the united states illegally. so there is always that fight. you know, the idea oh, we're being compassionate, having a weak border. no, it creates massive crime and migrant deaths. is it compassionate to weaken the border? >> it is not at all. what it does, it strengthens the illegal i will meant in the
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countries trying to develop. so mexico is turning into a virtual narco state in part because our administration continues to aid and abet and defacto fund these cartels, allow them to continue to profit. and become an outsized corrupting influence in that country. that is starting to happen in communities here in the united states as well where they have their fingers into all these sorts of things. so the thing that i would say to these mayors, you know, i haven't talked to governor abbott about it today, but i'm sure he would accept a check, make it out to the state of texas and help us build the infrastructure on southern side of our border. elizabeth: mayorkas says, dhs secretary says the border is secure. final word? >> mayorkas sat with us literally lied what is going on the border. his word can't be trusted about anything going on at the border. >> congressman, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. elizabeth: the backstory, the dramatic shift in the fbi's culture, did it make it prone to
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congressman, great having you on. let's do a recap of the news today with you. what's your reaction to attorney general merrick garland saying he was the one who personally approved the search warrant at trump's florida home? the doj is moving to unseal the warrant, they were awaiting trump's approval by 3:00 tomorrow. where do you stand on all of this? >> of course he was involved and i also believe that the white house was at least notified. at all highest levels of the government, they were involved in this and it's completely partisan and politicized from the doj. obama took 30 million documents with him and they never raided his home and took those documents. clinton took documents and the president has the ability to declassify document when is he takes them back. it's absolutely ridiculous that a search warrant was executed of which we haven't seen the language, we haven't seen the affidavit language and committee members demanded that we get a briefing on what they were after
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and if they say they were classified documents, we have the ability to have a classified hearing and the american people deserve answers and they see what this is for what it is. liz: it's over the top. >> it's a politicized witch hunt against a former president. liz: and obama's team transferred his records through chicago in the national archives and they were due to pay the national archives to digitize the documents and reportedly millions of records there. here's what's the report coming from the washington times and it quotes fbi veteran thomas baker and he's warning after the 9/11 terror attacks, the fbi culture changed from a strictly law enforcement catch the bad guy agency. we have to tough on the witness stand for that into an intelligence gathering operation. is that the problem? this came under robert mueller and said it made him more prone to politics and law enforcement is about taking the witness stand and testifying to nothing but the truth but an
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intelligence agency has to deal with politics. what do you think? >> because you have the fbi utilizing the patriot act to surveil american citizens and they use terrorism, domestic terrorism as a guide. they use the fiza court to surveil on people within trump's campaign and the russian collusion hoax for two years, which ended up being completely and utterly false &it was people in the fbi using the intelligence services of our country to get warrants to surveil on people from a secret court. it's absolutely gone way outside the per view of a law enforcement -- purview of law enforcement agency and into the intelligence of gathering and using that power to surveil on american citizens and it's not great for those individuals. liz: even the court judges are saying they didn't trust the fbi anymore. when we say the fbi, it's not the institution to criticize, it's the people running it and the people inside it who are recking it. what if trump got his attorney general to approve an fbi raid on hillary clinton's home, going
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through their rooms and cracking the safe and looking for documents and an e-mail she did not turn over when she left the state department. what would the reaction be to that? >> the mainstream media would lose their mind. she acid washed classified documents and apparently there was nothing wrong with that. we have one set of laws for democrats and another set of laws for conservatives and people that support trump. the american people are sick and tired of it and mark my words, when the republican majority takes the house back in november and get the golf in anne donovan, fiza on the board and significant oversight on the fbi and oversight, inter-ations and all of that on the -- interrogations on the administration and check and balances on the administration. liz: you mention the controversy of a new york post column saying what other presidents did in transferring their records back to their own personal property. you know, that's been the debate that's been going on for some
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time. with what other presidents have done, i think the when we talked to fbi officials and have seen this in talking to irs officials, there's a deep concern about different treatment that people are treated differently depending on who you are and that's 23409 not we want for america or our nation at all. >> you have one set of standards for conservatives and you go after them. look at the riots we saw over the summer of 2020 and compare an insurrection at department of interior from a leftist progressive that nothing was done to those people to how the january 6 have been treated from obama taking all the records and his house not being raided. hillary clinton acid washing e-mails, her house not being raided. nothing being done to them &then this happening to trump. not only is he the former president, but he's the number one contender to take on joe biden in 2024 and this department --
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liz: you have said the capitol riots are wrong. that they shouldn't have happen? >> yeah, 100% but the same crimes have to be equally applied. liz: congressman, thank you for joining us. i'mless macdonald on "the evening edit". thank you for watching and we hope you have a good evening and join us again tomorrow night. kennedy: finally details and attorney general merrick garland explaining his spotted on the raid and he claimed he was the one that ultimately signed off on the operation. merrick. merrick: first, i personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. second, the department does not take such a decision lightly. where possible, it is standard practice to seek less inintrusive means as an
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