nod much. >> she's exactly right. democrats are abandoned freedom for socialism and don't know what it means and means all government control and no choice and freedoms and this needs to get out more often. liz: ford o'connell, great to have you on. i'm elizabeth macdonald and you've been watching "the evening edit". joining us again tomorrow night and have a good evening. >> get ready for sticker shock. a watch dog group warning president biden's student loan hand out could cost more than $1 trillion. that's three times the white house estimate. who's going to pay for all this? i'm tom in for kennedy. the president last week set up a political hand gee fade with the plan to but with record inflation hanging over the nation, some economists said it

could make things worse but the white house simply said the president is fulfilling a campaign promise. >> it's a very targeted plan that will give relief to 90% of americans making less than $75,000 a year. this is important. this is a campaign promise that the president made and kept and he went beyond not just the $10,000 but up to $20,000. tom: on the other hand, republicans and some democrats still calling foul claiming the plan is too expensive and isn't fair to the millions who paid their dues. >> first off, it's inherently unfair. it's arbitrarily picking a group of individuals who are going to arbitrarily get their debt canceled with a stroke of the pen and not even going through congress. that's fairly illegal and adds hundreds of billions at a time we're trying to bring inflation under control. tom: that's what he thinks. what do voters think? as you'd expect, it's a mixed

bag, watch. >> it's a pretty good idea that students are able to get their loans forgiven. >> take out a loan, go to school, pay it off just like everybody else did. >> i don't think it's enough. i think it needs to be more than that. >> you make the decision to take out student loans to go to school, you know the possible ramifications of that if you can't pay and you should be responsible for your actions. tom: that ran the gamut and there's accusations that the white house is trying to buy votes. is this whole thing fair, especially with the ballooning cost estimates. let's get into it with tonight's party panel. attorney and republican strategist al a alexandra willid hannah cox and jason rantz. let's go to hannah. what do you think? you just saw the reaction. obviously it runs the gamut but it probably depends on whether

you owe money or not; right? >> i mean, maybe. i owe some money and i'm still opposed to this because i understand what makes things expensive, and the root problem with this whole solution they're throwing out is it does nothing to address why college has become so incredibly expensive over the past 12 years and does nothing to ensure that universities have to compete and start offering degrees that have real value out in the market. this is something that's not only going to cause worse inflation to hurt our economy and not only really unfair and who did not take out the loans or pay them back but it's something that will continue to allow the universities to increase their prices far above what the market could actually support, it's going to make college increasingly more expensive for everyone behind us and not going to ensure there's a greater chance after higher proprosperity in life and it's economically stupid and backwards and everybody should be opposed to it. tom: that makes sense, hannah. alexandra, do you agree? is this going to drive up the cost? obviously that's what's been

driving up education cost anyways is there's plenty of money being handed out to students and it's not so hard to get. this will make it worse; is that right? >> absolutely. we've seen the government intervention after government intervention over the last couple of decades has added to the bottom line. colleges now are building in that extra $10,000 into the cost. that's what they do and as hannah mentioned, it makes it more expensive for everybody. the only people who think that this is a good idea are people who are democrats who are living in the democratic dc bubble. they don't understand what this means for people who did not make these economic decisions, and i think that what the biden administration is counting on is they're thinking this will shore up a base of young voters that he desperately needs in the midterm elections and it gives -- because it's not quite legal and it's not quite paid for or people don't really understand what the cost of it is, it gives some vulnerable democrats a little bit of cover to say, we're not sure. we'll have to see. so i think that they think it's

the best of both worlds but if you're that working class b that's become so important to the republican party and turned sharply against democrats in the last couple years, it's going to be a rude awakening in november. tom: yeah, everyone knows he wants votes, but will he get them, jason? i mean the people, recent graduates and maybe grad students and people with all this debt, they're probably in debt anyway and is he going to gain votes from this? >> ultimately he's going to lose votes. the people who ultimately were always going to vote for him anyway might feel slightly more energized but the messages they're telling that electrician in topeka or spokane, you chose not to go to college or a college you can afford or worse, you paid off your student loans and now you're going to have otosubsidize the decision for someone to get a gender studies degree or worse a philosophies degree from

overland or getting hampshire college do it yourself major. this is patently unfair and i can't think of a worse message going into the m midterms when everyone is thinking about inflation and the 187,000irs agents you're about to hire, what will they do? we found out what they're going to do and seems like you're going to lose more in some of the areas where frankly you can't in these swing districts. you're going to lose folks because of this. tom: hannah, you mentioned this isn't going to be the thing that gets college costs under control. you sounded like you have an idea. what should they do if they want to control the costs, not that they do but what should they do? >> instead of ending student debt, end government-backed student loans. if the degree is worth pursuing and has real value in the market, you will be able to get loans from the private institution or from one of the tremendously large endowments from the institution and stop backing loans that nobody gives on the free market because

they're not worth anything in the real world and make schools have to compete and offer a product that's worth what they're selling it for, and if they can't then they deserve to lose money, to close. we need to actually have a free market system with competition brought back into higher ed. we're nowhere close to that right now, it's really unfair these institutions are getting corporate welfare from all of us even though they connell to push antian anti-american agenda mosf the time and they again continue to offer a lower return on investment for most of their degree and this is an endless vicious cycle that needs to be stopped by the government getting itself out of the business in the first place. tom: hannah, you had me at good grief. the panel will return later. forget the costner a second. let's examine the legality of all it. the administration relying on 2003 heros act to wipe out student debt. the heros act was eneightied following 9 -- enacted following the 9/11 heros act and it can

modify or distribute loans during war or a national emergency, which is kind of always. in this instance because of the covid pandemic, the biden administration thinks they have the legal authority to hand out money. deputy director says they believe the plan would hold up in court. >> both the department of justice office of legal council and the general council's office of the department of education have looked at the text of the statute and believe that the action that the secretary took and the administration took here is legally justified. it's happened to this administration and every administration and we believe we're on very strong legal ground. tom: in the administration is sued, who would win. i have lindsey burke here with me now. lindsey, there was a segment on one of the fox shows called is

it legal? i forget the show. let's go to that . is it legal? >> right, the biden administration is relying on a novel interpretation of vague language in an old statute to accomplish a priority of vast significance without being able to go through congress. even nancy pelosi when questioned about this said it would have to go through congress and it was on dubious legal grounds and that's exactly right. it's on dubious legal footing and it'll be interesting to see moving forward whether this stands the test of time because they are relying on an extremely old statute that's two decades old now. it was designed for national emergencies in a post 9/11 environment and expand to 43 million borrows this debt amnesty paid for by working class americans. tom: yeah, according to my google search today, we've been either in a national emergency or a war since 9/11. maybe both. i think there's 31 national

emergencies and they never seem to go away. we're in one now, if i'm not incorrect. obviously this is the kind of thing that they could cancel debt at any time and, you know, why haven't they done it so far, i guess. what would you say is going to be the pushback from this? there's a lot of democrats who don't agree with this, and they're running away from it. so it the president going to have to answer to congress for this? nancy pelosi said congress might have to step in or intimated that. >> yeah, he'll have to answer to congress but to the american taxpayer. look, college graduates, if this was a national emergency, they faired far better than everybody else during covid. they were more likely to be employed and more likely to be able to work from home. the idea that the administration would try to find wiggle room in the heros act and call this a national emergency in order to forgive this student loan debt, let's be clear, this is not forgiveness. this money doesn't disappear. this is a debt transfer onto

working americans across the country and statistically speaking, if you attend college, you are far more likely to outearn your noncollege counter parts. remember, only one-third of americans hold college degrees. this is requiring the vast majority of americans who do not to pay off the degrees of their college going counter parts. that's why this is one reason it is so regressive and so expensive, the pen warton budget model estimate this is will cost a $1 trillion. it's not up to $20,000 in loan forgiveness that's driving up the cost, which is t is, but it's the fact that the biden administration extended the pause on repayment of student loans. that's costing $5 billion every single month because the interest payments aren't accruing and that's accrued to the benefit of doctors and lawyers who by some estimates are getting about $48,000 in additional benefits because the juice isn't ticking on the student loans and hasn't been increasing since march of 2020.

again, it's incredibly aggressive, social security it'd will inflate the cost of college moving forward. if students think their loans will be forgiven in the future, they'll borrow more and increase the tu tuition at schools and tw fuel on the inflationary fire that's spreading across the country. tom: thanks, lindsey. president biden dividing the country even more. this time attacking maga republicans. does he think that is going to help demo dems win the midterms? greg steube is here to discuss next. ♪

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democracy. tom: like his chop there. new york governor kathy hochul tells her state's 5.4 million republicans to move to florida. >> we're fighting to bring government back to the people and out of the hands of dictators. and we're here to say that the era of trump and zeldon and malanaro, jump on a bus and head down to florida where you belong. you don't represent our values. you are not new yorkers. tom: is it a good political strategy to alienate half the country? joining me now is florida republican congressman and house judiciary member greg steube. greg, kathy hochul, i long for the warmth of hillary clinton. >> well, most are here in florida. if they're not, they're here part-time. so it's interesting you'd encourage half of her state to

leave. tom: yeah, do you want them, greg? we got our republicans here and we're trying to conserve our republicans in new york and god bless you in your state, but i don't want all the right wingers to leave new york. we have too few of them anyway. >> well, i tell you, the ones that are coming down here are the ones that love freedom because i love to say we have freedom here in florida and looking at voter registration in the first time for the history in florida, there's more registered republicans than democrats and the people fleeing democratically-run cities and states are actually conservatives trying to get away from those liberal policies. we'll take them. tom: greg, i like the way that guys like you and the florida governor are kind of punching back at democrats but i think there's far too few republicans doing that. when you have republicans like joe biden, like kathy hochul and have democrats attacking republicans and calling them fascist. saying they're either mini fascists are any kind of

fascism, why don't they swing back and demonstrate what's happened for the past two years and who are the ones that are locking people in their homes and taking away their businesses and forcing them to get vaccinated. how can democrats plausibly call people fascist after what they'd been involved in for the past two years? >> well, i actually don't think that joe biden knows what the definition of fascism is. if he does, he probably forgot what it means but looking in the dictionary it's what the democrats are. one party rule, the police state and the democrat haves the house, senate, and white house. look no further than mar-a-lago to look at the police state is alive and well in america and it's a lot more like the democratic party than the republican party. but democrats, if they can't win on the facts and can't win on the policy, they resort to name calling. speaker pelosi called republican members of congress domestic terrorists and we get called racist all the time and so when they can't win on the facts or the policy, they just go to name calcalling and that tends to be

their mantra. tom: really, i'm asking, is the time to start the name calling in the other direction? i feel like republicans going to say, no, no, we're not fascist and we're playing, up here in new york, lee zeldon playing polite with kathy hochul and time for the attack and talk about the statists. i don't want to call them fascists. they're the a aauthoritarians ad handing out billions and billions of dollars to illegals and student loan debt. you name it. that's absolutely the direction that the democrats are going and again, let's just point to the facts. they stand for socialism and some of them call themselves socialist democrats now and the americans can see what their policies are for what they are and there's going to be a big turnout in november and americans don't support

socialism and handouts and they support americans and liberty and that's what they stand for. if we point to that, we'll be successful in november. tom: congressman, your most famous video, you pulled out the firearms, do you have that sixth hour on your hip right now? >> not at the present moment, but i carry it everywhere i legally can. i like to protect myself tom: i'm thinking the way i can go viral is if a congressman pulls out a firearm on the air. if it was handy, i would have asked you to show me but you don't have it. i'm glad that you carry wherever you can. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. good to see you. tom: meghan markle once again insisting she hates attention and saying in a major magazine profile. which family will she break up next? the kardashians? clintons, brady bunch? we'll chat about it all next in the royal pain coming up next.

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tom: don panic, everyone. meghan markle is finally ready to speak up according to her latest glitzy spread in new york mag seens "the cut". the 25th anniversary of princess diana's death. in the piece markle is "like so excited to talk". and mentioned prince harry said he lost his dad, prince charles, in all the exit mess. royal insiders are said to be furious with some calling for harry to face an intervention. spotify and netflix shelled out $125 million so far for the content from the royal duo but is there anyone left who cares about what they have to say? maybe the panel. they're back, alexandra willings, hannah cox, and jason

ranz. do we deserve this couple considering what we did to the brits in 1776? >> this has to be pay back. i'm in the position where i do not care about anything connected to the couple. i find her to be absolutely insufferable. as a gay guy, your beauty does not work on me and i'm a dude which means i don't want to be like you. i want nothing to do with this lunatic and if you go back and watch any interview that harry's involved in, you can see him blinking some sos signs to send help. she is someone who seems to be the kind of person who posts emo lyrics on facebook and people go, are you okay. she goes, no, no, i'll be fine begging people to ask deep, diving questions about her emotional stability. which is not there. tom: alexandra, is she a victim? she wants to be. >> i think she certainly plays into our victimhood culture here

in america. but, look, we can question their intentions about why they really broke up with the royal family, particularly when you see pieces like this drop on the 25th anniversary of princess diana's death. to want to try and compete with that is pretty stark. let's face it, okay, this is america. if you're going to remake yourself anywhere, it'd be here. there's no country in the world where you can do this. if their goal truly as they stated was privacy and they wanted to lead a more secluded life, i don't see how anything that they've done so far has done that, and i also think that they just keep misreading the room, whether it's private jet use or it's complaining about being cut off from the royal family when in fact they were given millions while americans are facing their own financial hardships at this point. i'm not really sure who they are resinating -- or with whom

they're resinating with at this point. tom: hannah, is it sexist the way that we're all making jokes about prince harry as if, you know, she's emasculated him in a sense and she says that's because she's a powerful woman. an arch-type. her new podcast is called arch-types and all about girl power and everything else you'd expect. do you think that we're being unfair to them? >> no, i don't think we're being unfair to them and she's so ambitious and everybody hates them and you get one family to have a beef with and some people marry into sucky families and some people have families that aren't great. she has an issue with his family, her family, the british people, the media. if you have a problem with this many people, i promise you you are the problem. this has been evident since looking at what happened since the exit. they didn't leave the public eye and haven't sought any sort of solitude or to go and use their

immense wealth and prominence in society and getting something done, if you're a social justice warrior, put down your private plane and pass a justice reform bill and help somebody. instead they get paid over $100 million to make content and she's managed to put out one podcast episode in the past couple years where she mostly talked about herself. it makes no sense. i don't know who is tuning in for any of this. i find them both totally disgusting and just a total turnoff, and i think they are hypocrites and i don't know who displaced you. tom: jason, her podcast apparently it knocked joe rogan out of the top spot on spued pinata for the first time -- spotify and they're making a big deal out of that. the promotion for this thing has been out of this world. when i went on spotify, it shoved it down my throat. that's why i heard about it and opened up spotify to listen to joe rogan and there she was. i said i'll listen to the princess here but do you think that has something to do with it the fact that spotify sunk more than $100 million into this thing? >> i mean, very clearly everyone involved with this couple is

just pushing them on everyone. so at some point people might end up giving in and checking it out to see what this train wreck is all about. i pride myself in not falling for the click bait. i think we all should stand up and say, we want nothing to do with you and then they'll just go away. but the more that people even just out of curiosity start dipping toes in the water, it goes to making her more wealthy and ensures she's going to say more ridiculous things that we're going to mock on this show. tom: i think jason just kind of slammed me for going for the click bait. and now to the only person on earth more annoying than meghan markle, the people's pantsuit, tweeting a 2012 picture of herself dancing in columbia in solidarity with the prime minister of finland because hillary always needs to make it about her, of course. the finish pm was recently

criticized of leaked videos of her dancing wildly at a wild party. some fins are telling clinton to keep out of it. why is hillary incapable of letting us forget about her. hillary clinton is dancing and is it girls just to want have fun or what? is she trying to milk off someone else's publicity, specifically the pm? >> i'm likable and a cool girl and can dance. that's so fun. that's her message and she'll never miss a opportunity to insert herself in a story and that's really quite funny and sad but also i have to say this might be the first time that hillary clinton's done something i don't detest and i'm kind of with her. it's ridiculous that we're coming after a politician for just dancing and having fun and having to drink whatever. i don't care and i think we should be past this point in our politics where it's a bigot ya moment we have. she had -- big got ya moment and

i care about what the politicians do and make all of our lives harder and care about the injustices they're perpetrating against and the regulations and spending and locking nonviolent people up. that's where our ires should be directed and these are very distracting. tom: alexandra, the thing about hillary clinton and meghan markle and they're always playing this thing that if i were a man, i wouldn't be treated this way. if there was a male prime minister out dancing around, it would also be a viral story, am i wrong? >> of course. i mean, you can look no further than england where, you know, prime minister b boris johnens n was covered for -- johnson were covered for weeks about the party at 10 downing street. it would have gotten covered either way. if you're the finnish prime minister and your goal is to try and move beyond it, the last

thing you'd want are the clintons coming in and trying to rescue you or trying to put their own stamp of approval on this. it seeps like they add fuel to any fire and this has to be the last thing that she could possibly want in this situation. tom: yeah, absolutely. jason. imagine, i'm assuming the finnish pm after having gone viral wants the story to go away and now hillary clinton comes in and makes it a story all over again and we're showing the b roll of her dancing around and i'm sure they don't want hillary clinton involved in her politics. >> not at all. if she was southeast about getting the attention -- serious about getting the attention, hillary clinton looks like she'd dance from elaine from seinfeld. she has no talent here. they're trying to make it into girl power moment and what they did four years of relentless attacks on trump for not being presidential enough so going after the pm and defending the pm on the left just seems rather

odd to me. pick a lane. i don't care which lane you pick, but pick a lane. you can't have different standards for different people depending on their ideological positions. tom: do you guys think -- let me go down the line, does hillary want back in here? joe biden is obviously very frail and they're talking about him not continuing, not running again whatever. does hillary want in? she thinks she's better than all the other dem can candidates ot there. alexandra, does she want to run? >> she's stick ago toe in the heart -- sticking a toe in the water because the clintons can't handle themselves. tom: hannah? >> ooi was joe bin biden, i'd wh my drink around him and she'll never let it go and election conspiracy, she was pushing the narratives it was stolen from her and she'll take any chance

she can get. kamala, biden, watch your backs. tom: so true, all the stuff about january 6, jason, hillary clinton and, you know, who's the one from georgia, they don't stop talking about that they were unjustly robbed of their election; right? >> yeah, could you imagine that party of those two dancing, hillary clinton and stacey abram, i am all for that video. she clearly wants to run but i don't think she will. she can't stomach another loss. tom: yeah, well, maybe right. maybe right. panel, stay right there, okay. coming up, a new report claiming inflation could be here for years but the white house still blaming everything but their own nonstop spending. is inflation here to stay? jonas max-ferris is here in studio to break it down, next.

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inflation being transitory. jay powell says americans will likely feel more pain and now the fed's planning an all-out blitz to tackle inflation and interest rate hikes and former head of congressional budget office says things will take years not months to get better. and progressive democrats, senator elizabeth warren fears the worst. >> there is nothing in raising the interest rates, nothing in jerome powell's tool bag that deals directly with those, and he has admitted as much in congressional hearings when i've asked him about it. do you know what's worse than high prices and a strong economy? it's high prices and millions of people out of work. i'm very worried that the fed is going to tip this economy into recession.

tom: wow, so is a recession indeed coming? here with me in studio max funds.com co-funder and news jonas ferris-fax. max. does the fed chair have a bag of tricks? i thought it was a briefcase or something? >> it's a bag if you're being dismissive but a briefcase if you're being respectful. tom: that's right. during the break, they are just raising rates a little bit but you said a little bit is kind of a lot; is that right? >> it is for them. it is a bag of tricks. they're not using all the tricks first of all. one of the main trick they're doing is talking. they're trying to talk down the inflation in the economy, and if you saw the stock market on friday, that part was working because they were scaring people. the actual interest rate increases have been very mild. i mean, for them to go three quarters of a percent over, that's a lot. they usually do quarters over long period of time and they're catching up to all those months of its transitory talk that didn't do anything but the main

trick is doing the -- which they haven't really done is doing the opposite of what they did during covid, which was create money out of thin air by the government debt to give people the ppp loans and everything else. they can do the opposite. it's reversible and not like they printed cash and dropped out of helicopters. they can sell the $9 trillion in debt they have now for two man democratics and half back to the ''08 crash. the bonds to pay for the covid loans and as an investor, i'd buy the bond and pay for japan or china and they get the money and they light it on fire. disappears. you can make it go. it's reversible. they actually because of that could end -- they could end the inflation in two months and cause deflation. tom: what are they going to say? end in two months and they've been going to sell it. interest rates go to 9% and that's what your mortgage rate

would be. there'd be no home sales. i don't want to do that. tom: when i was a kid, interest rates were 16, 17, am i right about that >> yeah. tom: obviously we deal with everything differently now. it was routine for people to pay their mortgage in the teens; right. now what is it? we're down at 2% and that's for the fed rate. mortgages are still -- >> they're over 5. it's hitting the housing markets and it's falling apart with just over five. we got seven right or even close to where it was in the early 80s taking out the inflation. it would be a dust ball but home prices were a lot lower for inflation at those. yes, it was a 9% mortgage but the house that's $1 million now, even adjusting for inflation would be $3,000. the price was a lot lower. yet that's the problem. when rates go down, assets inflate in value and stocks do

too. tom: yeah, why did they make the cheap money during covid when everybody wanted to go buy a house to get out of the cities that were being shut down and then they put the rates down to what, 2%, lowest in history and then the housing prices went crazy through the roof and it doesn't help to have the cheap money. >> after the completely asinine ppp loans that were audited that everyone ripped off, re-boosting the housing bubble, which took so much money to fix when that collapsed in'08, if you recall, that bailout where those homeowners got to walk away from loans was more costly than the student loan garbage we're getting into now. it took so much to prevent a depression from happening now and reinflated the housing bubble higher than those levels in many cases and cities because the fed bought mortgage debt with newly created money to support the covid economy. that part was ridiculous and they can't get out of it because they sell the mortgage bonds too aggressively and mortgages go to 7% and wait a minute, i signed

the ink's still wet on the house i bought and the house goes back to $300,000 and you'll be under loan and need a tarp loan or whatever the government will do to fine finance that and it's as and the reality is that $9 trillion needs to get wound down but you can't without causing a serious recession. that is the c the conundrum ands why they're trying to sell bonds out of it. tom: it's as if they raised rates and then they come back and do the talk and get away with raising rates and talking. >> biden is doing the same thing and makes people fearful about the economic future, that's disinflationary and that guy will not be here and not expanding my business. business. tom: i love it. we got to go, thank you. coming up, school is back in session. for many kids and many more

starting next week. but a district in one state announcing a big change for the year paddling is back for discipline. i'll tell you where and why, next. ♪

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tom: panters across the country -- parents across the country pushing for a return to school since the pandemic but after this next report, some kids may want to stay home. a school district in missouri announcing it's bringing back paddling to punish unruly students. the dreaded paddle has returned and it's still legal in 19 states, mostly in the south but many researchers say it doesn't work. oh, researchers. is this a good idea? the panel has returned. alexandra wilkes, hannah cox, and jason rantz. do you like the paddling or what? >> look, i think these kids have been punished enough over the last couple of years with shutdowns and masks and forced vaccinations and i don't think they need anymore negative associations with school. i feel like paddling is a really good way to do that. tom: wow, i want to make headlines, jason.

if somebody -- are any of you pro paddling? >> i will say this: paddling should be kept where it belongs, which are frat houses and bedrooms. definitely not in any school whatsoever. if you're a teacher that has to resort to paddling, it's because you're an awful teacher and there's better ways to deal with kids that are misbehaving and you don't have to be physically abusive and feels like it's a union scheme to keep the schools close and what parent in their right mind would bring their kid to this school? >> i thought that too and i'm an old fashioned guy and like the old fashioned discipline and hannah, when i did this story on radio, it was call in reed owe, talk radio and it went, i thought it was going to be 50/50. it was 100% pro paddling. people called up, they said i would definitely let my kids be paddled as long as it kept them in order in school. they were pro paddling. what do you think?

>> listen, very gently i'll point out the average demographic on radio is older and out of touch on this issue. we've learned so much in the last couple decades on spankings and there's no reason to do this. it's wrong to hit people and always wrong and we should never teach kids it's wron okay for as to hit them and leads to worse behavior issues and often kids that are hurt or scared act out more and it makes them more likely to be violent with their own kids down the road. there's no reason to do this and much better ways to have discipline in schools and my mom's a teacher and there's severe discipline issues in the neighboring schools to be gap grappled with and hitting kids is not the answer and seeing kids who have been traumatized in increase and the teacher union policies during the pandemic because of the lockdowns. the last thing is to go to school and be afraid of teachers or administrators or feel they'll be physically harmed and

lastly i'll point out that i don't trust the decision making of most of these teachers or the unions. i would never leave up to them whether or not my child should be spanked or not and these people haven't proven to be good stewards of wisdom oratress or t worthy. unilaterally opposed. tom: i'm kind of opposed to paddling but i want to be for it just to be contrary. some of the teachers are in danger and we've got to do something to return discipline to schools. if it's not paddling, what are we going to do? >> look, i think that we definitely have an issue in our schools. i think that the kids right now i think exacerbated by the pandemic are acting out in very scary and very strange ways. it's a legitimate problem. i agree though that i don't think that hitting reinforces

the message of discipline and toughness and i think it encourages even more of that type of behavior. i just can't say that i agree with this one as a mom. i'm not sure that i would trust the school to make that judgment where weather it my kid, i'm all in favor of strict attentions and uniform policies and you name it of what can be used. tom: let me ask, jason, you mention paddles belong in the bedroom and is it as discipline or love? what's the deal with the pad paddling? >> it's both. is there a difference. itit's how you show your love. tom: i thought you might say that. jason, that'll be a whole other segment. i can't wait to get to that . panel, thank you so much. this was very edifying. is that a word in yeah. alex, hannah, jason, we'll be right back.

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