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cloud, arizona attorney general mark brnovich. former white house deputy chief of staff karl rove and fox news contribute liz peek. you don't want to politicize a hurricane. critics could try to blame rising gas prices on hurricane ian. we have new video of the wawa ransacking coming in. it is disturbing but the white house continues to dodge questions about the u.s. crime problem. we've got the growing number of democrats personally hurt by crime. plus a new stock trading ban is moving in the house. no word from speaker pelosi yet after the uproar over her husband's lucrative stoke trades. and "the hill" reports literally trillions of your tax dollars now wasted in that multitrillion dollar government spending spree. plus, the first lawsuit against biden's student loan bailout that bailout was seen as unfair. the justice department just announced results from a major fentanyl crackdown at the border.

i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. welcome to the show. let's start with your money. stocks ending mixed. the dow and s&p fall for a 6th straight day. the dow is diving deeper into bear territory. hawkish fed officials talking rates at 4.75 of a point that rates could stay higher for longer to stop inflation. we had new home sales, consumer confidence jumping more than expected. the 10-year treasury yield it hit a 10-year high at 3.96. hurricane ian gathering strength as it drives towards southwest florida. this is about managing expectations. we have new modeling coming in. possibly 10 to 15-foot storm surges, up to 20-inch rainfall. power outages up to a week. growing concern could land as potentially powerful category 4. october weather's katie burn live from orlando international

airport. good to see you. reporter: liz, lots to talk up with the new updates we're learning this hour. i can tell you orlando international airport is making to close the airport tomorrow at 10:30 in the morning. still busy right now. people are coming and going, have flights tonight and tomorrow morning. as long as they are before 10:30 you're okay. they will close the airport potentially set up air aid and assistance depending how bad the storm gets. this airport following in the footsteps of tampa international airport which closed an hour ago. southwest florida internation airport in fort myers will now close tonight too. meanwhile on the roads there is traffic building. you will see it as millions of people in the state prepare for what is to come. no rain in orlando yet but things will look different in about 24 hours from now. there are mandatory evacuation orders in more than a dozen counties in the state. people in tampa waiting for hours for free sandbags to try to protect their homes from

floodwater damage. florida governor ron desantis in the last hour is giving an update as the storm is tracking more south towards the border of charlotte and sarasota counties. >> when you look at storm surge of this nature that is a very life-threatening hazard talking about 10 feet, 12 feet of storm surge which you could see in certain parts of this when it makes landfall. we know this thing is going to be hitting the state directly, sometime tomorrow evening. you still have some time. but that time is rapidly running out. reporter: now orlando is becoming a bit after safe haven for those people who are evacuating because we're more inland here. i'm told hotels selling out. the one in the airport is already sold out. some people in the airport extending business trips here or their vacations. what is interesting is, those hurricane warnings are expanding more inland within the last hour. if you were in this airport with me all of our phones were going

off because we all got the hurricane warning in effect for orlando as well. elizabeth: interesting. katie byrne, thank you for your reporting stay safe. jason smith from house ways and means and former white house deputy chief of staff karl rove. we have to move on to this. congressman the hurricane is hitting right as the nation is in a recession and wall street warns the federal reserve is literally break the financial markets and u.s. economy with over the top rate hikes. what to you think? >> i tell you, americans are struggling, they're struggling to put food on their table, clothes on their backs, gas in their cars and you look at this administration, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, for the longest time they were denying inflation. then they were dismissing it. and now they're trying to downplay it because they have an election six weeks from today. they see the writing on the wall. they're spending practices has caused the highest inflation in 40 years and now they're trying to downplay it. it's unacceptable but americans,

they see right through it. elizabeth: karl what do you think to the congressman's point? we have jeremy siegel of the wharton business school, karl he is wrong now. it should not outvolcker, paul volcker. wall street is unusually alarmed by rapid unusual moves in the bond market. what do you think. >> i'm with the congressman. go back to where this came from. inflation is the result of too much money chasing too few goods. what did this administration do? added nearly five trillion dollars of demand through additional spending starting with the american rescue plan and most recently ending with the student loan bailout and so we got five trillion dollars more in demand and today they had a white house meeting. some of the senior officials in the government to discuss this, he said we'll have plans to save families money and lower costs. what did they say? we'll have airlines required to disclose the extra fees in advance so when you book a

ticket you know how much you're charged for your baggage. really, that will offset a lot i bet of the five trillion dollars in additional demand. strikes me we have both the fed and the administration off on the wrong track here. the one that we can do something about most immediately is, to stop the spending that this administration has engaged in. elizabeth: we've got a global supply shortage. to karl's point we have global shortage. this is incredibly inflationary to karl's point should down that supply too. paying people not to work during the pandemic, labor shortages but to karl's point, congressman, president held a white house event how to save money for inflation after he held a mission accomplished party two weeks ago celebrating the inflation reduction act, wharton, cbo, moody's said will not have any impact. watch the president yesterday.

president biden: inflation, inflation is the end of the month you have less money in your from your paycheck or more money in your paycheck. elizabeth: congressman, why is he doing an explainer on inflation? real wages have gone down the fastest in 40 years under biden? >> this administration is out of touch with reality. real wages are down 4.3% since joe biden has taken the oath of office. inflation has gone up 13.7% since joe biden's taken the oath of office. and why, why has real wages gone down, why has inflation gone up? because they have spent more than $10 trillion since he has taken the oath of office. this is unacceptable this is why every american is paying more to put food on their table, clothe on their backs, gasoline in their cars. they have a meeting to say we want more transparency on fees when you go to the airport? elizabeth: that's it? >> the people in southeast

missouri rarely fly one time a year. they buy grossry, put fuel in their gas tanks. that is what they are concerned about. elizabeth: flight fees. january 6th is expected to postpone tomorrow's hearing. they were supposed to do it ahead of the final report. they have nickel and dime moves to talk about inflation. >> it is almost laughable. to the congressman's point, shows how out of touch they are. they have pumped all this additional demand in. five billion dollars in new spending on top of what was already built into the federal budget. and then they come out and say they will have the airlines disclose the additional fees they charge you when you book? we're also going to require expedia, everybody else that books to do the same thing? would somebody please explain to me how that is going to bring about a significant reduction in inflation, even for airplane tickets? more transparency, more cost on airlines because they will have to have all kinds of compliance with some new federal mandate

how they report those numbers. elizabeth: go ahead, karl. >> you made a really good point about supply. think about all they have done to crimp energy supplies deliberately. they wanted us to be less dependent upon oil and gas, on hydrocarbons. they did things to make it more difficult to drill, therefore diminish the potential supply and it, now they're doing what? nothing. nothing of substance. elizabeth: so you know to karl's point house speaker pelosi is now calling the gop's quote, commitment to america agenda, extremist. that is what she is saying. let's watch this. >> speaker pelosi is going to be fired in 46 days. elizabeth: that was a quick sound bite. representative scalise says the same thing, congressman. what do you think all the democrats got calling gop agenda extremist? >> democrat party, nancy pelosi, joe biden, chuck schumer thinks anyone who disagrees with them is extreme. let me tell you america is not a

socialist nation. we are not supportive of spending our way out of inflation and taxing our way out of recession. we're all about bringing this country back and stopping uncontrollable policies. elizabeth: congressman smith, karl rove, thanks for joining us tonight, gentlemen. good to to you. >> thank you. elizabeth: gop house lawmakers pushing hard on the hunter biden probe with deals with china. companies are reassessing their trade deals with china and business there if china goes in on taiwan. also this, the white house continues to dodge questions about the u.s. crime problem but we have a growing number of democrats personally hit by crime. senator marsha blackburn on "the evening edit" next. ♪. >> american people are paying the price whether they're robbing or destroying a wawa, or beating up a grandmother or you've got multiple offenders being let out of jail, continually committing crimes. these democrat policies and these democrats are hoping that

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elizabeth: welcome back. the philadelphia police department released more footage from the looting and ransacking from the wawa in philadelphia. it is disturbing.

hundreds of teenagers came from a nearby roller skating ring caused $10,000 in damages. jeff flock in philadelphia with more. reporter: that is the wawa store behind me on saturday where all hell broke loose. look at pictures from inside. about 8:30 of a kids left a roller ring next door, came to the wawa and just started throwing things, jumping up on top of stuff, wrecking things. it was a mess. about $10,000 in damage. and police now releasing some of the tape you're now looking at in an attempt to identify some of the kids. i say, yes, kids. most of them were juvenile but police say that is no excuse. >> we cannot have this type of behavior happening in this city. again, the business community doesn't deserve that, the citizens of this city don't deserve it. reporter: liz rising crime rates aproblem across the nation but particularly acute here in

philadelphia. look at numbers, violent crime up 6%. retail theft up more than 50%. burglaries up 30%. armed robbery with a gun up almost 60%. the good news no one was harmed in the trashing of the convenience store. police still looking to make an arrest. liz? elizabeth: jeff flock, thank you for your reporting, good to see you, joining us now senator marsha blackburn. senator you heard the report about the wawa ransacking. spark as crime wave hitting businesses nationwide. your home state has been victimized including shootings. can you talk to us about this? >> yes indeed. the american people know there is rising crime across this country and it is coming because you have d.a.s and prosecutors, you have judges, that are weak on crime and these violent offenders carry out these crimes, cash, no-cash

bail, let's them out of, they're not booked. they're let go. and you can talk to cops who will tell you that the criminal is back on the streets before they can finish the paperwork. and they know that there is no penalty. they know they're going to be able to just walk. so, that is what they are doing. >> that is pretty dangerous stuff, senator. >> yes. elizabeth: the other thing, senator, to your point, midterm polls show midterms are about crime inflation and economy. that is what voters are saying but let's listen to the white house press secretary avoid questions about crime. watch this. >> crime is a huge vulnerability for democrats, one of the biggest vulnerabilities. >> jen psaki says crime is a huge vulnerability for democrats. why would she say that? >> you know, again i can't do electoral politics from here as you know but i kind, i don't agree with your characterization of what she actually said. reporter: does president biden

think america's big cities are safe? >> it is not, it is not a, it is not a yes or no question. >> these guys are ruthless on the other side. where are we? where are we organizing bottom up, a compelling alternative narrative? where are we going on the offense every single day? they're winning right now. >> that was california democrat governor gavin newsom, senator. he is complaining about building a narrative when democrats control the white house, the senate and the house. why is the white house dodging the question about crime when jen psaki already said it is an issue? >> well they should know it is an issue. i think they do know it is an issue. they know it happened on their watch. they are trying to triangulate and change the conversation and. and the press secretary's response to this, by trying to talk about medicare and social security and all these other things that have knowing to do with crime, people know there is a crime wave hitting

this country. they know that police officers, all this defund the police rhetoric, it is causing police officers to leave their jobs. communities can't get police officers enough to respond many times because there are not enough to fill the shift. they know this. elizabeth: to your point a woman was savagely beat beaten enhome less man i howard beach subway station. it could leave her blind in one eye. he is a career criminal. he beat his grandmother to death when he was 14 years old. they remembered 41-year-old foster. it was caught by a security camera. this is brutal stuff. even democrats are being victimized by crime. we're talking democrats like mary scanlon of pennsylvania and

illinois democrat kimberly lifert carjacked by gunpoint. california democrat, karen bass that home was robbed. former california democrat barbara boxer, mugged and assaulted broad daylight last summer. what is gavin newsom talking about, you know the narrative. these are women, women. where is the "me too" movement? where are female democrats standing up saying women are getting victimized. where are they? where is the "me too" movement? >> they don't want to point out democrats made very bad decisions when it comes to dealing with crime. so they are just letting the issue go. they're not talking about it, how dare they contradict the white house. but what women know is that this crime is in their communities, much of it tied to that open southern border with drugs an fentanyl and gangs and the cartel coming across that border. they know this. and that is why women, are the number one purchaser of

handguns. new purchasers of handguns at this point in time. they are going to keep themselves safe. elizabeth: but senator, and senator, as a woman, as a woman who has been fighting in washington for years, when you hear the silence of female women democrats, and the silence from women in the white house on this and silence from the liberal left women, and silence from the "me too" movement, what does that make you feel? >> it is something that, that i cannot believe what they are doing. because look at human trafficking, sex trafficking people are being subjected to coming across the border. look how a lot of these gang members say, easy targets, a female, they can't fight back. that is why they are attacking them on the streets and on the subways. they should be standing up, demanding that the left stop the defund the police rhetoric. elizabeth: thank you, senator marsha blackburn.

come back soon. good to have you on the show. >> you got it. thanks. elizabeth: critics fear the white house could blame rising gas on hurricane ian. that story coming in. you don't want to politicize hurricanes when families are in harm's way. that is what is going on. 51 gop lawmakers demanding the chinese buying land near a military base. gop lawmakers pushing hard on their hunter biden probe as a national security threat due to deals with china. congressman james comer on all that and more next on that and more next on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪ so, it's not a problem at all. you guys aren't gonna give me the fake bill fight? c'mon, kev. you're earning 3% cash back. humor me. where is my wallet? i am paying. where is my wallet? i thought i gave it to you. oooohhh? oh, that's not it either. no. no. stop, i insist. that was good though. earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback?

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♪. elizabeth: we do have tensions between taiwan and china in. they are heating up. companies going along with u.s. demand backing out of businesses with china if china attacks taiwan. edward lawrence in washington with this hot story. reporter: apple plans to keep the bulk of its manufacturing in china however executives realized it might be good to diversify the supply chain. so some of the new iphone 14s will now be made in india. so it's a win-win for apple which has 4% of the phone market in india. apple hopes to also increase that. google making the same move with production of its phone, moving out of china but not to the u.s. even though we have been hearing this from the administration. >> these are things that the president has done for the past 19 months, making sure that

manufacturing is resurgent. president biden: jobs are up, income is up, american manufacturing is roaring back. reporter: michael pillsbury says the administration tries to get tough on china. >> what trump tried to do with china, he made it very clear, tell me and others let's get leverage on china and negotiate to get a good deal in all kinds of areas, including the truth about the covid origins. sew the biden administration doesn't seem to take that approach. they don't seem to be seeking leverage on china and then getting results. reporter: u.s. maintaining one china policy however refusing to publicly rebuke who china does business with and how it does business. elizabeth: edward lawrence great reporting. thank you so much. joining me now is house oversight ranking member congressman james comer. congressman, your reaction to that report? >> yeah, look, joe biden has not been tough on china. he is all talk.

we've got a problem with china. when you look at the technology that is produced in china, that which have to have, the semiconductors, we need an administration that will stand up to china and everything that this administration does with respect to china is all talk. you know the research that we've done with our investigations on oversight committee shows joe biden knew exactly what hunter biden was doing in trying to negotiate deals with china to start purchasing interest in the american energy industry. so, we've got a long way to go with respect to lessening our dependence on china, much less bringing manufacturing back to the united states. hopefully in a republican majority we can force this administration to not just talk about being tough with china, but actually doing something to be tough with china. elizabeth: something about the actual presentations that you have, the biden family giving access to u.s. energy and u.s. natural gas reserves in five states. is it more than that? are you finding more information

that the biden family was doing with u.s. energy assets? >> yeah. we've got a lot of whistle-blowers that have come forward. we're continuing to conduct investigations. i'm not going to sign my name on anything unless it is factual. unlike adam schiff we'll produce factual evidence of wrongdoing. the american people know hunter biden was shady character doing business deals at the expense of america. americans will see joe biden knew very well what hunter biden was doing. now the question is was joe biden using government officials to try to help facilitate these deals that hunter was trying to do with china. at the end much the day -- elizabeth: where they made millions of dollars, right? >> why we need bank records this administration blocked access to bank records that other members of congress had previous access to. once we get access those -- elizabeth: treasury claim

because of an ongoing probe. is that true. >> that is what they're saying but that is not true. the ongoing probe is tax evasion, that is what is he being investigated for in delaware is tax evasion. what we're talking about dealing with china. that has potentially compromised this president. that is why we're seeing an administration soft on china, having an energy policy that is advantageous to china at the expense of american consumers. so we've got a long way to go for this administration to stand up to china. elizabeth: we have this, 51 republican lawmakers sent a letter to three cabinet secretaries, pentagon, treasury secretary, agricultural chief. that they are being threatening by the chinese company buying land near grand forks air force base in north dakota. you talked about getting to hunter biden as part of the house oversight probe. you are basically pushing allegations that basically hunter biden's former assistant

was a spy for the chinese government. that hunter biden has his own eric swalwell fang fang problem. this is based on anonymous whistle-blowers, right? so the american people will say who are these whistle-blowers? >> it is based on credible whistle-blower. i think the american people will see that whistle-blower testify under oath in a republican majority if we flip the house in november. but at the end of the day this was his assistant and she was a member of the communist chinese party. so this is all information that's coming out. the more that comes out on hunter biden the worse it is. the more it shows that hunter was compromised by china. now was this president compromised? elizabeth: do you know if she was a spy? >> we don't know she was a spy but we do know she was very active in the chinese communist party. we do know that everyone affiliated with that chinese, the founder of the chinese energy company he was working for has been detained by the chinese government.

nobody has seen him for two years! elizabeth: she is working with the enron of china, cefc to talk about u.s. natural gas reserves. >> yes. elizabeth: flowing through five states through the biden family deal making with cefc. is that it? is that where she ties? >> that is exactly it. according to the -- elizabeth: tony bobulinski had 10% of this deal was for the big guy, joe biden, go ahead. >> and gilyard. two former associates said joe biden was the big guy and this associate was also trying to negotiate a deal for chinese enron to come in and start purchasing drillers of natural gas. so they're trying to get their foot in the door on the american energy industry's infrastructure. elizabeth: okay. quite a story. we'll stay on it. congressman comer, thank you so much for joining us tonight, sir. good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: this story coming up a new ban on stock trading on move in the house, stock trading by congress that is. no word from speaker pelosi after the uproar over her

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♪. elizabeth: okay, we have a new heads up for millions of americans who struggle to pay their utility bills as energy prices surge higher. power companies like the national grid and con edison may raise prices even more heading into the winter. kelly o'grady has the story. kelly. reporter: liz, we're bracing for the most expensive heating bills in 10 years. families are struggling with inflation at the grocery store, at the pump. now you're going to struggle to simply keep your house warm. this year prices are expected to jump 17%. brings you just over $1200 for the season. depending how you heat your home that could vary. looking at oil, 2100 on average. the concern becomes how will americans make ends meet? this winter already a tight time

for families with the holidays. we just experienced soaring electricity bills with summer heat waves. we're already seeing warning signs. a new bank of america poll shows 17% of respondents say they missed a utility bill payment due to financial difficult. if you look at households making un50,000, that jumps to 25%. energy experts warn this will only get worse with war in ukraine putting millions of families in a difficult position to pay for food or rent in many cases. utility companies are sharing tips how to conserve energy. have an inspector clean your heating system, use led bulbs what about people who can't do that, they are living paycheck to paycheck? they're not looking tore phipps. they're looking for lower prices. >> kelly, thank you. fox news contributor liz peek. your reaction to that report? >> i'm not surprised, liz, natural gases are up over 60%

where they were last year. that has to filter into the price of heating your home. because we're not producing anymore natural gas, indeed because president biden to committed exporting a lot of natural gas to europe to, because of the war in ukraine, we are really looking at a very tight natural gas market and i think, actually the increases you talked about are probably conservative. elizabeth: wow, conservative. so, liz, but the president has been talking about climate change and gas prices. let's get your reaction to this, watch. president biden: i pledged $11 billion a year to help poor countries fight climate change. working with congress with your help we can get this done. -- states below three you can bucks. low 3s in most places. in 41 states plus the district of columbia the average gasoline price is less than $2.99. companies running gas stations setting those prices at the pump

bring down prices you're charging at the pump, do it now. do it now. >> okay, liz, again and again, no state, no state, there is no state where your gas is below $3. also why spend money on climate changeover seas when we have thousands of homeless veterans here? we have low income people here dealing with high energy prices? >> yeah, that is sort of a double-whammy, isn't it? already americans are not totally happy we're spending money on climate change. it is one of the less important issues to most americans and to do so outside of our own country just seems sort of, really tone deaf to the needs of americans these days. by the way, yeah, the average price of natural gas, i mean of gasoline is 3.80 at the pump, 3.83 it is, up 17% year-over-year. the only reason gasoline prices have come down is we are still releasing a million barrels a day from the strategic petroleum reserve. now our reserves are the lowest

they have been since 1984, liz, which is really not a great situation. elizabeth: that feels like -- >> we're also in a recession. a recession. so demand is down. elizabeth: brit, feels like a political ponzi scheme with what is going on with the strategic reserve. we have to pay for that. brit hume says the president claiming gas is just 2.99, that price again nowhere to be found, do you think it adds to the perception the president is not up to the job, that this is what is dragging down his approval ratings, this is what is dragging his party down and it's a bad way to govern, it is just bad politics? >> you know, it is not polite to call your president a liar but he lies all the time and, guess what, it shows up in polling. interestingly when he was first elected people thought he was honest. that is no longer the case. i mean there have been so many whoppers issued by this president and particularly on things we all know are false, like the price of gasoline.

it is just stupid politics honestly, liz. elizabeth: "the hill" magazine, "the hill" out of d.c. reporting they may try to blame hurricane, blaming putin, oil companies and gags stations. >> and that is not -- elizabeth: you don't want to politicize a hurricane. families are in harm's way in danger. that is talked about. >> the api came out it really isn't going to have impact. louisiana being hit, other places where refineries are located then it would matter. this does not. elizabeth: got it. liz peek, always a terrific interview with you. liz peek comes ready, great writer. good to see you, liz. the justice department announcing results from a fentanyl crackdown at the border. a new ban on stock trading in congress on the move in the house. no word from speaker nancy pelosi after the uproar over her husband's lucrative stock trades. we have congressman michael cloud next on "the evening edit." >> think of people who paid

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elizabeth: back with us from house oversight, congressman michael cloud. good to see you, congressman. >> good to be here. elizabeth: great to see you in the studio. great to have you on. what do you think about the bill moving in the house to ban stock trading for members of congress and supreme court justice and families? >> this is couple bills, quite some time along with some democratic counterparts to deal with congress when it comes to banning stock trading, making sure anything we go into a qualified blind trust but one of the things that is overlooked in

this bill, i think is extremely important, i introduced a bill on it just a couple weeks ago called the divest act, the executive branch continues to get overlooked on this. they are the ones making specific decisions when it comes to everything we saw during covid, medicine, weapons systems those sorts of things. congress will pass a bill has a lot of detail left out. then it goes over to the executive branch where they're filling in these details. the people making those decisions need to be held accountable as well. elizabeth: so they can sandbag the bill maybe i don't know. >> yeah. elizabeth: that happened too. speaker pelosi oddly silent about this after the uproar over her husband's lucrative stock trades while she has been in office. >> like i said, we cosponsored these bills couple years ago. suddenly we're hearing news bit in the election cycle. some people in the bubble in their district want to make issue, to show separation between pelosi and them, who knows. it is very interesting to see this suddenly getting light, a little movement. so far it is just lip service.

we don't see the bill. don't have legislative text on their proposal. elizabeth: yeah. >> there are a couple of bills out there i and others have cosponsored that would rein in trading for members of congress but we've really got to do everything we can to restore the american peoples trust in government at large. >> you know what else is going on? the hill, "the hill," media report out of washington they say now, they have got new reports show trillions of dollars, not hundreds of billions, trillions in government waste and spending especially the covid relief spending and it is coming out also waste out of the education department and more. so, you know the president has that student loan bailout. cbo says $400 billion. we have a lawsuit from the libertarian pacific legal foundation saying it is unconstitutional. he basically did that with a press release you know what i mean? when you see congress doing stock trading, massive spending going on, talking trillions in waste, voters are saying what the heck is going on?

>> you know, exactly. i'm on the oversight committee. virtually every term we have one hearing where the government accountability office comes in, present a report hon waste, fraud and abuse. just to make that list, agency or program has to be in jeopardy wasting a billion dollars. there is waste, fraud abuse throughout the whole thing. one more reason we have to give oversight to the executive branch. we have to bring the agencies in, not only have they been politicized weaponized but they are inefficient doing their job itself. elizabeth: you can't become desensitized to it, right? >> you shouldn't. elizabeth: talking about 87,000, tens of thousands of irs agents to go after people, exactly after you're doing that. >> exactly. we have the agencies trying to hold the american people to a standard they're not willing to meet. elizabeth: right. >> we have to remember the government is here to work for the people, not the other way around. elizabeth: got it. congressman cloud, good to have you in the studio. hope you have a good time in new york. good to see you. this story, the justice

department announces results from a fentanyl crackdown at the border. arizona attorney general mark brnovich is coming up on "the evening edit." >> the schools need to get involved. the white house needs to come out with a sense of urgency to put this out to the american people. we're losing a future generation, 300 a day. ♪

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elizabeth: back with us now, arizona attorney general mark brnovich. sir, it's good to have you back on. when you heard that attorney general merrick garland and the dea announced the government had seized 10 million fake fentanyl pills across 50 states since the summer, that's enough to kill every american multiple times over. what was your reaction to that report? >> my immediate reaction, liz, but just in the past month there's been more than a million pills seized just here in arizona. we know that there was 44 pound in the month of august at the nogales border crossing station. i would say to merrick garland and doj, welcome and thank you for finally recognizing that we have a fentanyl problem in this country. but americans have been dying for years now, and you've done nothing, and you allowed the cartels to basically seize control of the border. and as a result of that, that's

why we are seeing a record amount of fentanyl throughout the united states, because every state is a border state. elizabeth: and to your point, sir, for the first time, for the first time most illegal immigrants, the majority crossing into the u.s., are now from remote countries, not from countries contiguous to the southern border. from remote countries. and we have a letter to dhs secretary mayorkas if from 14 house republicans. they're saying venezuela is purposefully releasing violent criminals and sending them to the u.s. border. is that true? >> yes. i mean, in what we've seen, once again, just in the month of august, more than 55,000 individual encounters with people from nicaragua, cuba and seps wail la. so, indeed, we are seeing these despotic regimes, i think, systematically emptying out or allowing criminals to basically leave their countries and come here9 to the united states. we get these countries that are despotic regimes like venezuela,

it's harder to actually remove them and send hem back because it is a totalitarian regime, and there are human rights violations going on there. it's not just all economics -- elizabeth: so you're with saying venezuela, the communist regime won't take them back. is that what you're saying? >> that's part of it. it's difficult to deal with these regimes in the first place. but the other thing is when we talk about legitimate threats of persecution, there are probably people from venezuela that are pacing much more serious crimes than, let's say, someone from jamaica, haiti or even mexico. so it makes it much more difficult. so when the biden administration decriminalized and incentivized people to come here illegally, he is now creating incentives for the dictators in cuba and venezuela -- elizabeth: you know, and the thing is economic asylum, economic asylum is not a standard in the law, and it's unfair to the women and children who are persecuted -- >> correct. elizabeth: -- for true reasons.

shoved aside by people coming here for a job. that's not fair. democrats keep touting that our border's secure. watch in the. >> we have a secure border. >> the border is secure. >> we have taken unprecedented action over the past year and a half to secure our border. >> the border remains closed. s not open. we are turning away the majority of adults. >> we have a process in place to manage migrants at the border. elizabeth: okay. but, again, venezuela, you were talking about purposefully releasing criminals convicted of murder, extortion, and that they have been seen within the migrant caravans too going to the southern border. your final word. >> yeah. look, the lack of integrity by the democrats apparently is only surpassed by hair ineptitude. so they keep trying to say things that are systematically, common demonstrably false, and just in august if you look at the number of people on the

terror watch list that have been apprehended, america is less safe, and we should all be concerned about what the bidening administration is doing to systematically dismantle our southern border. elizabeth: got it. mark brnovich, t good to see you. make sure to tune in october 17th and 18th. we're headed to d.c. you're going to want to watch. i'm elizabeth macdonald, that does it for us. thank you for watching tonight, join us again tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ kennedy: we've got breaking news, #.5 million people in florida now under strict orders to evacuate as hurricane ian takes aim at the gulf coast, and it could hit tampa as the strongst storm in over 100 years. here we have a live look at venice, florida, which could be one of the places hardest hit. that could take a direct one in very short order. and if this is tampa, also expected to get hit very hard. we're told stores are cleaned out, businesses and homes have been boarded up.

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