stu: which state has the most counties? >> lauren? i'll go with florida. stu: i'm going with texas. 254 counties. thank you for all the help and criticism. we're worse today at the corner and again, awful lot and this is looking like an awful month with these losses right now, we're looking at nasdaq likely to have only one more day of trading to go. down about 6.5% and the dow and s and p off similar amounts because interest rates are backing and you happen dow looks strong as i'll get at and questions about whether anyone can get out of the way of this economic freight train. ? the meantime, they're looking at

south carolina trying to get out of the way of hurricane ian hitting sometime later today and it'll reform as category 1 hurricane after demolishing much of florida. we're following all of that -- steve harrigan with the latest look at it. what does it look like now? >> reporter: no one has insurance and they're looking for the basics right now for medication and they can get water and cell phone and cell phone communication very hard to find at this point. i asked one man if that was his house and he said it used to be.

saw a woman who was carrying her belongings in a garbage pail through the water and her important documents and people at this point are helping each other. one maybe helping the other and we haven't seen much in the way of first responders yet. a single sheriff taking photos and doing wellness checks to make sure there are no casualties here. none being reported so far. we've seen helicopters fly overhead and how many in the next few hours and people largely listen their own to help each other and more of an effort from first responders can make its way to this scene of real devastation. neil, back to you. >> steve, i imagine it's tough for rescuers to get there. it doesn't look like it's hospitable. >> reporter: a lot of challenges. challenges basic communications that you realize over the innocenter how much shuts down and in downed trees are everywhere and downed power lines and the palm trees were

snapped and we're starting to hear the first chain saws and trucks pull up with chain saws and that's slow going and that's getting underway and clearing the roads certainly a priority to get those first responders out here. neil. >> thank you, steve, very much. steve harrigan following this one very closely as jason frazier the fox meteorologist. jason, widespread as you said it would be and now reforming and that was a possibility, but right now in florida, looking at what you're looking at as it makes its way north, what can you tell us? >> yeah, so, neil, tropical storm ian has winds at 70 miles per hour and slowly moving to the no, sir, northeast at about 9 miles per hour and those in jacksonville and on the border of jacksonville or florida and georgia are going to see the big impacts and look at this so far, i mean, there has been so much rain that has it fallen across central and even southwestern portions of florida. i mean, we've gotten isolated spots in florida that got well over 2 feet of rain and that is

going to be very devastating. now, over the next 24 hours, we do anticipate that ian will end up moving into the atlantic ocean and there are all indications that ian can going to strengthen into a category 1 hurricane and then likely slam into some portion of south carolina that cone is starting to get a bit more accurate there and it's starting to show greater confidence that we'll end up seeing big impacts for those of you in coastal south carolina before it ends up moving just to the north as well as west. so for savannah, georgia, we'll see anywhere from 8 to 12 inches of rain and we are going to continue seeing winds pick up as well and storm surge is going to be an issue as well. 3 to 5 feet are expected over the next 24 houser and charleston, south carolina, neil, we could see another 5 to upwards of 8 inches of rain for the next 24 hours. so we're not done yet with ian, ian is kind of like that neighbor that doesn't want to go away. it's time to go, ian.

neil: it is going away. thank you very much, my friend. i want to update before we get to the next on where we stand with ian for the time being. the storm destroyed at least two crucial bridges on the southwestern coast right now. santa bell causeway and pine island bridge, they connect the mainland to the two very popular barrier islands right near ft. meyers and both going to require substantial structural rebuild and that's ron desantis and these rebuilds that will take a significant amount of time even years and ian's damage is historic and one that changed the character and the very complexion of the state and also saying the national weather service has issued that hurricane warning as you just heard from jason for coastal south carolina and the storm is expected to make land fall tomorrow and come out to sea. looks like to avoid this but the coast of georgia, very high

storm surge and nothing like 18 feet that false positives saw but it's going to -- florida saw and it's going to be a hassle just the same. let's go to the florida highway patrol troop and thank you for taking the time. what can you tell us? >> thank you for having me, our troopers are responding for hurricane recovery efforts and they're trying to clear roadways and use chain saws to chop down trees and get them out of the roadway and tell your listeners to not go outside and look at damage till the storm has passed and the road is safe. we need everyone to stay off the corrodes you never want to -- roads and you never want to ride or walk through flooded water. it can be very dangerous for yourself and also stretches first responder resources. neil: maybe you can help me with this, lieutenant, there was reports in lee county and the

sheriff was on good morning america and pondering the possibility that hundreds had lost their lives. since dialing that back and the governor said he can't get a good handle on that yet because it's so hard to reach people with power outand all the rest. it's very hard to get an idea of what's going on and how many were trapped in that and more? >> here in central florida, we have first responders going to locations to get to residents and the florida highway patrol, sheriff's office, municipality office and dot partners and road rangers and we're all hands on deck to try and get to people that are in need and be able to provide resources to them. neil: so if you had to advise people and they think right after the storm, coast clear. i can go out and get fresh air and stretch my legs. i would imagine you're saying, no, no. not so fast. >> yes, please do not be out there right now. first responders are trying to

clear the roadways and they're trying to assist those in need. even 6 inches of water can cause your car to stall and knock you off your feet. a foot of water can float many vehicles and 2 feet of water can carry large suvs and many trucks. you don't know what's underneath that water. there could be downed power lines and sharpabilities. neil: mayors and district managers and evacuation warnings going out and strong urgings and one told me you can't force the issue and many did not evacuate and are regretting that now. have you seen much of that? >> here we're dealing with -- we didn't have an evacuation area here in central florida but more than 170 sworn fhp troops are statewide to assist with the evacuation and response efforts

so i can speak on behalf of central florida and what we're doing locally and of course we have our pios that are across the state to provide information if you need to contact information as well. neil: lieutenant, you probably got not much sleep between your men and women but herculean task and thank you for all you're doing. >> thank you, and be safe. neil: by the way, we'll take a quick break and dow falling 363 points and an awful month and latest catalyst is inflation and no matter where you look it's back with a vengeance and inflation running at the highest rate we've seen in 70 years. 70 years and mortgage rates right now are hitting a new 15-year high. closing in on 7%. add that up with some other statistics showing a slowdown and the rate with stagflation worries and then there's this

hurricane that could soon be a hurricane from a tropical storm.

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neil: all right, yesterday's advance of the market was just a tease?

it's being unwound today and then some. a couple catalysts of this and overnight we got news that asia going from bad to worse and china is slipping its productions not what was in the better part of eight years. also it is now the slowest moving economy in asia. something it has not seen since the early 1990s and then the issue with germany facing the highest interest rates and highest inflation in the better part of 70 years. the bank of england and the bounce that faded today and add that up to the effect of higher prices on folks who are not buying as much at rite-aid hence the big disappointing earnings and home buyers backing out of deals at record high ra rates, d it up and there's a lot of arrows going down. mitch with us and macro-transit advisers and donald trump former senior economic adviser. mitch, to you first on what the markets are telling us, was yesterday a head fake and the

dip thing is long gone. >> well, there's still cash on the sidelines, and i think when there's anything positive for investors to jump in on, they do. but on a net basis and i hate to be debbie downer here, net basis there's a lot more head winds than t tail winds and you ticked off a whole bunch at the top of the segment but what scares me the most and what's scaring a market is a global mess and if you look back at many of the recessions we've had if not depressions that we've had, it often is a global problem and when the market ran up when we had sinkized global growth by the same toe can and market runs down and sink sink r synchronizt failures. failures. neil: democrats banning republicans for saying the magical elixir is cutting taxes and there we are and now the fed

is doing all the work and some say overdoing that. do you think the fed is overdoing it with these rate hikes? and no imaginable affect on inflation and risks torpedoing the economy. >> well, a couple obstructing cerumens vases. number one -- observations, there's a big story in "the wall street journal" about the fear of massive global deficits and i'm like, well, hello, that's been the case for -- we've seen that f for two years and invests are getting fid jetting about the -- fid jetty in the last market recession. neil: we've had global debt levels that's been a huge concern for the better part of 18, 20 years. >> well, yeah, and especially over the last -- since covid hit so i'm just saying synergy home

all the sudden we're -- why all the sudden we're seeing massive sellouts in the market. i agree that the world growth is a huge problem. i mean, europe is a mess, japan is a mess, china is a mess, where's the growth going to come from? what country -- now, i actually happen to like what liz truss is doing in england. i think it's exactly the right thing, pro growth policies and hold out hope for what's going on in italy and maybe some of the countries are turning to policies that can expand output. on the fed, you know, i -- the big question now is whether they will go forward with these continued rate increases and i think the odds have dropped considerably over the last 24 hours. neil: mitch, looking at how the british market responded to all these tax cuts and oil moves and it's similar to the initial reaction of maggie thatcher's

tax cut hads and very similar to what ronald reagan's tax cut proposals got and that was in the, just coming into office and everything we were dealing with with the inflation and everything else. i remember "the wall street journal" famously saying essentially you're overdoing it, mr. president, we're not received initially favorably and it worked out i think it's fair to say in retrospect. what do you make of that whether the markets might be giving a false signal abroad and here? >> looking in the situation in the uk, that's alarming is the central bank and so monetary policy and fiscal policy with the new prime minister aren't synced up at all and the central bank is trying to keep that economy afloat and keep their bond market afloat and worried about pension funds, you know, sort of being upside down so what are they doing? they're printing money and buying basically their treasuries and their bonds and they're doing it in big clips so they're printing money, which is inflationary while from fiscal policy perspective, the prime

minister trying to do something to help the supply side. those cross currents could be very trouble some if they don't get their act together and harmonize whatever their strategy is. >> by the way, that's what we're doing here in the united states. you've got the congress, they just spent -- passed a new budget 48 hours ago in the senate, neil, that has more spending in it. they're not cutting spend, they're increasing it and meanwhile the fed is trying to slam the brakes on the economy and i agree with that analysis, it's happening all over the world. reckless fiscal policies and then trying to have the central banks deal with the reckage. neil: you know, that's a very good point and, mitch, if you think about it, say you have the $5 or $6 trillion in added spending and jp morgan chase jamie diamond said it creates the mess we're in and compounds for the federal reserve because it's unloading that balance sheet, trying to get rid of all these treasury notes and bonds and mortgage-backed securities

and municipal securities it's been scarfing up and as it's been doing so, congress is adding another $5, $6 trillion on and it's going out and it's coming in. no wonder why rates aren't budging. >> by the way, let's leave the stupidity of congress with fiscal policies aside for a second. just the budget in place, just the programs that are in place are requiring the fed to basically continue to print about $1 trillion a year and you're right. what's happening is when steve was in the trump administration, they had great idea and steve had this great idea to refinance all that debt with a 40 or 50-year bond so what are they doing? when the fed went and printed money, they did a lot of it on a short term basis and they're literally 26 basis points, a quarter of a percentage point treasury securities being refinanced at 400 basis points at 4% and that's really the soup they're in right now.

neil: for every tick up we've add $220 million to our debt. >> neil, you mentioned the s word before we came on, the stagflation word, is one we all dread, but i hate to see it and i think that's exactly where we're headed right now with very, very slow and maybe negative growth continuing, and this kind of persistent inflation of 5, 6, 7, 8, 9% and it's an ugly picture out there right now. what i want to see most out of washington right now is a firm commitment to start cutting government spending. frankly i'm not hearing that from either party right now. neil: no, you need to wake up, young man. gentlemen, thank you very, very much. i just want to update you right now on ian. virtually has left florida now but a lot of rain, a lot of wind and disney world still closed. now the happiest place on earth looking like the wettest place

on earth. they used to with prior hurricanes keep indoor amusements open like the whole presidents play or pirates of the caribbean or any indoor activities but no, everything is shut down there. but people are trapped there are staying at obviously the hotels there so they're getting fed, they're getting entertained best as they can do, and no signs that it's going to hope any time soon. open any time soon but some is dated footage of disney world before all of this hit, after this.

neil: in the meantime the happiest place on earth is now the quietest place on earth. hotels are booked but they're not going on any rides. brandy campbell in orlando, florida, with more on that. the fox weather correspondent extraordinary. what does it look like there? okay, let's -- >> reporter: hey, sorry about that, guys. having some technical difficulties out here in the field. so we're here in kissimmee, florida, where water rescues have been happening all morning and actually since about 5:30. right now we're standing in front of apartment complex where about 50 people were rescued by the police department, sheriffs, fwc from the state and they were taken to a local hospital -- high school, excuse me, to be in a safe and dry place and general in this town, there's several

areas of like ponds or small lakes where the communities around them were actually flooded calling for these water rescues and the first responders have been targeting those areas that have been flooding trying to see who needs rescued and i have spoken to some people that live in the apartments that are further back, can't believe that it's happened and says they haven't had this happen before or have seen it in the years that they've actually lived here. the fire chief, he's told me the exact same thing in all of this because of hurricane ian that at the time was a category 1 storm here. now, currently it's dry, we are getting a breeze and every now and then gusts of wind but right now the big story is just the lives that are impacted here and people that are needing rescue because of the water that has risen near their homes. back to you. neil: thank you, very, very much

for that. in the meantime, the worry about prices rocketing for gas and all that, it's not happening. just the thought of it though was put in a lot of people's heads when the president made that comment yesterday saying that the oil industry better not be trying to raise prices in the middle of all of this. edward has more from the white house. edward lawrence, how are you, my friend? >> hey, neil. nine refineries in louisiana that refine oil into gas will to shut down because of the storm just in case and 13% of capacity coming back online as well as oil rigs in the gulf of mexico, which is also shut down for the storm will now start to come back online. but gas prices have been up over the past 12 days, in fact. president joe biden trying to shame gas companies into just lowering prices, but the american petroleum institute says gas prices are set by supply and demand, on the global market and this administration has worked to restrict supplies. >> the administration has been making energy policies with an eye toward the november

elections. not with an eye towards providing energy security, price stability for the american people. they need to focus back on fundamentals. >> reporter: so the american petroleum institute said the administration should expedite permits for oil and natural gas infrastructure including pipelines and it's a move being made in europe and api said the administration should issue nor leases for drilling and stop promoting tax increases on domestic producers because it just punishes american jobs and discouraging investment in the u.s.. here's the president. >> looking into whether price gouging is going on. america is watching and the industry should do the right thing. as a matter of fact they should move more quickly now to bring down the price at the pump because gasoline is down and the price of gasoline is down a great deal. there's too much of a delay between the price of a barrel of gas and crude oil and the price of gasoline at the pump. >> reporter: so it's been about a year now the president has

been asking the ftc to look for price gouging and so far those investigations have not turned up any wrong doing. neil. neil: thank you, my friend very, very much. in the meantime, i don't want to lose site of the fact we're in a major selloff yet again and a lot certainly has to do with the signs of inflation that are building. even this issue that may be gas prices that could soon follow and there's no evidence of this yet and the president threw it out as a possibility to explain what has been seven or eight day runup in gas prices after hitting lows at least after 99 consecutive days of declines and we'll raise that a bit later at the white mouse john kirby joining us in the next hour. ahead of that, i want to go to nick laurice head of c3. nick, that surprised me about watching gas companies and oil companies don't think of gouging people. it's not even happening and wasn't even happening then. no evidence of it happening now.

what did you think of it? >> yeah, you know, this really is a supply and demand issue and every time there's a natural disaster, we hear about price gouging and if we actually set price caps on gasoline, on water, on generators, that's going to result in a much worse situation because a lot of people will horde these commodities and so therefore a lot of people won't be able to get them. a lot of people that need them most won't be able to get them and this is really not a problem right now. the industry is working hard to keep refineries and stations online to make sure that prices stay as low as possible but really there's no issue here and it is just a fact of supply and demand. neil: i've covered many of these hurricanes and mother nature events. you always get a run on fuel for a lot of people to top their tanks and have to get out, evacuate and they get nervous like they make a run at stores like costco to get their hands on anything and everything they

can. we don't see it in prices and it's a big macro picture from you, nick. i mean the energy prices pick up again here and utilities are picking up and looking at energy companies and europe is out of control. are we facing energy inflation again? >> it certainly feels that way and without the necessary permitting reforms and expedited processes to get more supply online, it's only going to get worse and natural gas prices are up, electricity bills are higher and the prices at the pump are uncomfortably high for most americans and without that necessary supply to help bring down price, it's going to remain that way for quite some time. so i think what the api has said about expediting permits to provide some regulatory and policy certainty that america is a global leader as an oil and

gas producer and more environmental friendly than anyone else in the world should send a strong signal to the administration in congress to get to work to allow energy producers to do what they do and that's supply americans with affordable, reliable power. neil: don't hold your breath for that, nick. we'll just see. nick loris, c3 solutions vice president public poll schism not seeing hurricanes and tropical storm soon back to hurricane ian lifting gas prices but you can count on this, they will lift food prices. they already are, after this.

neil: i think this next guy set

the standard of reporting, i really co. he's thin and fit and didn't get blown away covering countless hurricanes and now he's nailing it in and looking at food price components and all of that stuff. but he's the best. jeff, it's good to see you again, my friend. >> little jealous of my friends down there on the coast. neil: i remember it so well. go ahead. >> i may have a little more fight left in me before it's done. wait till the next hurricane. in the meantime, who knew that in florida, it was the hot bed of fertilizer production? we didn't know that but now we do. you know, it's harvest time out on the farm as maybe you can see and not a lot of fertilizer needed now but production goes on all yearlong and yesterday as the storm was coming off the coast, it headed inland and right over top of a huge fertilizer production facility, namely the mosaic company phosphate rock farm in polk

county, florida. fertilizer prices were already kind of through the roof because of the situation in ukraine and supply chain issues with china and so already increased food prices maybe take another hit. in the last cpi prices for food were up higher at one time jump any time since 1979. we talked to analyst emily moquin of morning consult and she tells us it's another brick in the wall of rising food prices. listen. >> i think any disruption to the supply chain is going to put more push on the system. going back to impacted fertilizer potentially, it will sort of trickle down through the system and potentially impact food prices. >> so missed the hurricane this time but, neil, my mother as you know was on the ere some years ago in a hurricane passed away. i have her house now and i am

going to get a report shortly in engelwood, florida, whether i have a roof on that house or not. i'm not 100% sure but, you know, what can i tell you? neil: it's amazing. many, many good member reigns leadings of watching yo -- memories watching you and dealing with all that. you did set the standard, young man. i would never do it. unless i came in a three-piece suit i might do it. no, i would never do it. >> you say green screen. green screen helps you. neil: there we go. by the way, i like the outfit you chose for today. it's very you. all right, jeff, thank you, my friend. isn't he the best? he really is. he is the best. another guy is the best when it comes to monitoring the reaction to all this but in this he's an expert when it comes to this storm and impact because he's a floridean. so i believe you're on the east coast side but what was the effect of all of this? >> it's multi-faucetted and, neil, i am on the --

multifaceted and i am on the east coast and we were spared but others weren't and inflation getting more expensive and i can touch on house prices and what happens there, but there's a labor shortage and it's more acute than anywhere in florida where good luck getting a contractor to return a phone call let alone show up. when we have this mad dash to just get people back up and running on the west coast of florida, i think it's going to disrupt the entire state and make it very difficult. the other thing worth mentioning is insurance and i can tell you from firsthand experience that getting homeowners insurance in florida is no easy feat. and right now in the wake of a storm like this, it's only going to get more difficult. when you think about the years it'll take to file claims but what happens when you start filing them and can't get insurance next year? i think there's a lot of to the storm from jacksonville

to key west, east and west coast and -- two sim summers ago in jy of 2021 when i bought my house in florida, there was this little dip, a named storm, a tropical depression coming out of the african coast heading towards florida, and all of the folks who were potential transplants froze and said oh gosh, i forgot. there are hurricanes and tornadoes in florida. maybe i shouldn't buy and the market definitely chilled for about a five period, but

yesterday i was asking around -- sort of depends on where you live in florida and i live on the water so i think everybody during season, they don't even like to use the h word around there and they're on gourd and especially the locals sort of are always prepared for it. but i think the population has shifted greatly with so many transplants that had no clue what to do and some of my neighbors were calling me and telling me what are your plans? how are you handling it? i think there's a lot of

education. there was a meme floating around yesterday that said attention new yorkers who have moved to florida, this is hell week. sort of a fraternity hazing reference there. but i think even for the locals, i think they forgot what it was like cause they really haven't -- we, first person haven't had a storm like this. this is a life changer, this one. but hasn't been a big storm in florida of this magnitude probably back to 2017. neil: a lot of florideans are mad oturu new yorkers and new jerseyens coming down because they can't drive and it's hurt the state's image i guess. always good seeing you, mitch. mitch rochelle following the developments. we have more coming up with the cleanup and that's if you can get to the town you're trying to get touchdown pass start the cleanup after -- to to start the cleanup after this.

>> 155 miles per hour down in ft. meyers and that where hurricane ian came in and i cannot imagine. this is what 70 miles an hour can do so i guess it gives everyone a sense and how big the storm is. port charlotte, ft. meyers about 140 miles south from here but such is the size of what is now tropical storm ian. we've been hearing about all the rescues and the efforts to are, you know, assess the situation

further south from here. also overnight in orlando, tremendous amount of wind and rain, more than a foot of rain. there's been water rescues and now the storm is headed up the north coast of florida from daytona beach to palm coast and st. augustine and jacksonville and quite conceivably going out and coming back in to savannah as a cat 1 and possibly bad news with this storm. still 2.6 million people across florida are without power. it could be days, especially south of here in the very hard hit counties, lee county in particular where ft. meyers is. one good piece of news for this area, the tampa international airport just put out a statement saying they are going to begin operations begin tomorrow at 10:00 a.m.. so, neil, things, you know, at one point this area was right in the bull's eye and as we know it is unpredictable and that storm

went further south and it's devastating there and overall sense of the neighborhoods here is one of relief frankly. neil. neil: ashley, incredible coverage of this yesterday against all sorts of odds. >> thank you. neil: ashley webster and i want to go to ken welch in st. petersburg, florida, with a direct hit yesterday. how are things looking today, mayor? >> thank you, neil, for having me on and our thoughts and prayers to neighbors in the south in the naples and ft. meyers area. here was an issue of wind damage. oak trees, pine trees down around the city and i took a tour with the st. pete team this morning, and they're hard at work clearing the roadways so duke energy can get in there and repair the outages and we have about 175,000 folks who have a power outage right now. i think it really showed us the power of these storms and i can only imagine if we got a direct

hit to st. petersburg. neil: i apologize and looked at some images and said, wow. it looks a lot worse than it is i guess. there's a cleanup involved and folks without power. what have you been told? >> well, duke energy and when this happens you have power crews from all around the nation come in in preposition. a lot of those were prepositioned at tropicana field and they'll be heading south since that's where most of the damage is. for us in st. pete, we have about 80 traffic signals that are out because the power is out, and duke energy is working hard hopefully over the next 24 to 36 hours they'll have all of that power restored. we're just asking folks to be safe as they go back, downed power lines are a big threat as well as trees that are damaged and still might fall down and cause injury. so we fared relatively well but that storm just showed the power

of what water can do and the storm surge issue is something we have to be repaired for. prepared for. neil: mayor, i was impressed about you and i don't mean toe blow smoke how unanimous you guys were working together and the governor, republican, joe biden the president and yourself a democrat working with colleagues of all parties and stripes, and it does show you what's possible, mayor. so i did take away that aspect of it. >> absolutely. i mean, when you are facing a threat like this, i think you see the best in folks. we come together, senator scott called me not ten minutes ago, i wasn't able to take the call with the senator, but we've had calls from the white house from both sides of the aisle, governor desantis, charlie crist, folks have called to make sure we had the resources we need and it's good to see us get back to that, hopefully we can learn a lesson in working that

way. neil: absolutely. i say that with someone with a large italian family. it never happens in my family, i hear it's possible but i was encouraged by that . can i get another take and florida has been a magnet and your city certainly for people who want to move to the great environment and beautiful beaches and the water and all that. something like this comes along and makes them say, maybe not. do you worry about the maybe not part? >> no, i think as we see the power of these storms across the nation, jackson just dealt with flooding that they've never seen before so i think it's a part of what's changing in our climate but also as folks come to florida, we've got the data and the fact facts and we saw the ce coming for a long time and got a chance to tell folk ifs you're in the low-lying areas and unsafe area to move to higher ground. it just to me it's communicating

and making sure folks have ample warning. we had that, but you can't, you know, focus on that center track. got to look at the cone and at going forward as we rebuild, we need to do so with resiliency in mind and just use the information and data that we have. neil: all have been a lot worseo your point. mayor, thank you --

the amount of water in will continue to rise is a 500 year flood event. this storm is having broad impacts across the state in some of the flooding you're going to seeing areas, hundreds of miles from where this made landfall are going to set records