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charles: throw charles: one day all of this will turn around; right, liz claman? liz: not bet against great american stocks and american companies behind them. charles: i agree. liz: today is tough. it's not just risk assets getting absolutely pounded at this hour, it's just about everything except maybe betz on volatility but let's start with the nasdaq here. we know that there is red across the screen. this is the biggest percentage drop at the moment. we do have it down 3.7%. the nasdaq is falling 416 points. so it has all been more than wiped out what we saw yesterday, which was a gain of 222. looking at volatility entropical depression, the vix -- index, the vix, there's fear in the market up 9% at the moment above 30, that's sort of been that level that people watch.
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we do have the cboe volatility fear index at 32.89 at the moment. now, if we turn our attention to a different kind of risk and real problem and fear, it's the destination across florida fr from -- desimation is the hurricane devastation in florida. it is expected to be a cat 1 later tonight because it's a tropical storm at the moment and the entire country is watching the storm's path including wall street. looking at stock market here, the dow has fallen below 30,000 once again. we're at 29,034 tech star apple received a rare downgrade from bank of america due to weaker consumer challenges. we see the s&p, this is the one that gives you a sense of how all stocks are doing down 2.7%,
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losing 103 points and anything you check whether it's the airlines or utilities or financials, they're in the red at the moment. but let's take a live look at fernandina beach camera shot we have. this is in florida and atlantic ocean side north of jacksonville dropping buckets and buckets of rain causing even more devastating floods as it tracks north ward. we now know that at least five confirmed deaths can be attributed to this hurricane. at the moment, officials in florida say they unfortunately expect many more. we wanted to show you this, residents on sanibel island are almost completely stranded after what's on your screen, the causeway, this is the only way to access the florida mainland by auto, completely collapsed at one portion. the only possible way to access the island now is by boat or air. this damage has made rescue operations more difficult. not even just for the worst hit areas, dramatic video out of key west shows this man struggling
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to rescue a dog through flood waters all the way up to his waist. we wanted to show that to you because we know of course human lives are also at stake here but this is just one tiny viewpoint, one tiny prism through which we're looking at hearts that are being tugged from the images that we are seeing. all the major florida theme parks are still shut down at this hour, disney, comcast, sea world shares all down 2 to 3% because of course you shut these parks down for, you know, a minimum of two days, you're talking about quite a bit of revenue here. they are set to reopen tomorrow and we'll see if that happens but disney confirms crews are currently assessing the damage at the park. now right now florida's utilities are down along the power lines all across the state and all over, duke energy, nextera and the parent companies of florida power electric and they're not looking
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they have -- more than 2.6 million florideans without power right now across the state. as of the latest 2:00 p.m. advisory, ian is still, yes as i said a tropical storm, sustained winds of 70 miles per hour. let's go to fox weather's robert ray in ft. meyers which, you know what, you could call this very much ground zero, can't you, robert? >> reporter: liz, yes. i would say good afternoon but it's nothing like that at all. look at this disaster here. these boats, some of them very large vessels pushed in by the winds and the storm surge on top of each other colliding so violently. where i'm standing these are piers that are concrete below them. there is foam that makes them float and as one owner told me earlier, he lives in a high-rise and watched this last night.
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he said -- the wind came in those hurricane-force winds and the surge record amount of water pushed into the ft. meyers area, the downtown area was under water last night and since receded but the businesses and the shops and the historic area totally destroyed here this morning. liz, i have to tell you, you know, we just got back. we're out of cell phone service for about two hours. we took the drive down to the shore to the ft. meyers beach area because we wanted to cross that bridge, which is where we started our coverage yesterday morning but left because of the surge. we wanted to see what was going on there because the destruction down there according to officials is just perhaps epic, some of the worst. we got to the bridge and we could not cross. they're still doing search and rescues in that region and you can't blame them. they need to focus. at this point, they've rescued over 500 people in the two
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counties surrounding here in ft. meyers and they're continues to try and grab more people that are in harm's way that were down on the coastline but on our drive down, liz, what we saw was just disaster after the next on each side of the road. downed trees, power lines, homes with roofs ripped off and huge vessels again on the sides of the road blown in by the surge. standing water that vehicles were having to drive through one, two feet for a mile, a mile and a half. it was merky as well. there was people elderly walking through the water trying to get goods into their homes and putting tarps on their homes and we have a historic hurricane. as bad as it gets really in the aftermath here in south florida right now and to think the swath of this storm heading up into the peninsula and causing power outages and damage and again, georgia and south carolina in
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the bull's eye a aas we approach evening and at 3:11 p.m. yesterday, just 20 miles to the northwest of where i'm standing and, boy, the furry of it as it came in yesterday and what we are experiencing today. i just hope there's no more loss of life in the coming days as the search and rescue efforts will continue for at least the next 72 hours according to governor desantis and other officials. liz, just a very bad situation on the ground here. liz: your pictures, robert, are about the starkest evidence right now that i have seen of the aftermath here, and please, you and the crew, keep us posted on every detail you find out because a lot of boats, folks, robert will tell you too, they're actually people's businesses. they take them out with tourists and they also use them for fishing and this is their income so we're talking about some real
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business pain as well as human angle and robert ray is one of the many fox whether reporters tracking out and covering ian and it's going up to georgia and the carolinas and what you need to do is go on foxweather.com and download the app. the app store, apple, google, wherever you get your apps. even before hurricane ian hit, snapping clean through the 2-foot sanibel causeway we told you about. look at this picture here. snapped in half. can't go on it anymore. the american society of civil engineers estimated more than 40% of american roadways are in poor or immediate condition and dozens of bridges are over 50 years old and now impassable roads in florida have immediate impact on businesses and those fanning out to start repairs. yesterday before ian made landfall, you are looking atd video of doors that were
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completely blown out from a business and people rushed in -- this is before the hurricane even hit; right, they rushed in to press those doors closed and obviously there was thomas way p the -- no way to keep the glass from shattering and more to come as ian aims north ward. scott burris is the ceo of storm smart and one of the biggest storm protection services in florida. he's in ft. meyers where his headquarters and manufacturing businesses are headed. scott, can you just tell me how are your employees? is everybody safe and okay and we'll get to the business aspect? >> thanks, liz. that's our main focus is the safety and welfare of our 300 must employees and making sure their fiscally going through i think thises and they're safe.
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liz: absolutely. you've got a lot of customers who are desperate for exactly what your empl employees and yor company do. are you able to start working on all of the damage you know is out there? >> we were lucky that all three companies had minor damage and power is out but once it's restored we'll serve our customers. liz: what kind of damage do you expect to face. your customers are calling you. what are they saying? >> it's a tale of two sides. one is that our product worked well and they're calling to thank us and others saying damage with roofs taken off and trees down and will have to do a lot of work on rebuilding as it most of our community and we'll be there on the backside of that to make sure our
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liz: protected by the windows and storm products you sell. >> we've been in business this year 26 years now. we've been through charlie in '04, irma in '07 and now ian. through all of those our infrastructure stood and it's early this time but the feedback has been 100% positive and we'll do a full evaluation on the backside but i feel very strongly of the success of our product out there. liz: i do want our viewers to understand one thing, even before the hurricane hit, you had crews out till 4:00 a.m. of the morning that it was going to hit installing; correct?
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that must have felt like a rush likable falling of saigon to try and get some final jobs done. >> it's installation and service in helping the community. we were getting flooded with calls on monday and tuesday from people that had never really been through a hurricane with all the migration over the past few years. someliz: by the-liz: the dow do3
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points at the moment and it is an ugly session and only two dow components are higher and that would be travelers and visa. everybody else in the red and look at boeing. the top lagger here. it was the top gainer at this hour yesterday. boeing right now losing $9 and change. we're coming right back, don't
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liz: b believe it or not, we're off the session lows and dow jones industrials down 527 and the session dropped to the very bottom here is a loss of 686 points. nasdaq, that's the problem here down three full percentage points, three and a quarter make that 359 points. worse part of the session down 428. you can see the s&p down two and a third percent or 88 points. let's look at individual stock names that are definitely, you know, moving in either direction here, mostly down shares of carmax hitting a 2.5 year low after reporting one of its biggest earnings misses in the history of the company. ep s4 3% below estimates. the used car dealer blames an uncertain economic environment that's taking a toll on vehicle demand but guess what? they cited inflation and that
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means people do not have the money right now to buy a car or a new car, even a used car. they'll hold onto the one they have because they got to spend money on things they actually really do need like food. the fallout felt across the auto sector first with carmax down 23.6% but you can see vroom, carvana, cars.com and these are competitors putting the brakes on these dealers and we have them all down anywhere from 4 ta down 20%. dove tail to auto part stocks and auto nation penske and auto zone all lower. auto zone is flat down under 1%. auto makers, look at them. this is a bigger picture. they're getting yanked down and ford, general motors in the red anywhere from 4 to more than 5, close to 6% in the case of gm. meme stock favorite bed bath and beyond, i mean, down 6.13% and
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it's a $6.05 stock. it was a much uglier picture e earlier and bed bath and beyond hit a session low of $5.82. this after they reported another quarter of falling sales and widening losses. revenue dropped 28% and it's net loss ballooned to $366 million. it's been a brutal 2022 for this company. billionaire investor ryan cohen had taken a stake in bed bath and beyond earlier in the year, which sent the stock skyrocketing but then kind of threw up his hands and didn't like how management was handling the company and sold out his entire position in august. that really slammed the stock. bed bath and beyond down 70% over the past year. what can save it, if anything, was the company moves to shutter 100 plus bed bath and beyond stores by the end of the fiscal year. bye bye baby, the buy buy baby
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chain will grow by 14 stores. this is all part of bed bath and beyond's attempt to transformation. they say it's on track, it's starting to show positivity. we shall see but at the moment, buy buy baby might be the one savior. warren buffet filling his investing tank with even more occidental petroleum stock and berkshire hathaway bought another 6 million share in the last week of september adding to the conglomerate stake standing at 21%. oxy up 115% year to date and a lot has to do with the fact when that guy on your screen decides it's a good buy, a lot of people know that he's rarely wrong. berkshire hathaway down just 1% at the bomb. those are the b shares. long time bear and famed letter writer, yes, publisher, we're talking about newsletter writer dennis barkman expected a market bounce earlier this week and was sprouting some bull horns but is he now sharpening his bear claws
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that quickly? we got to talk to dennis about this. 39 minutes left to trade and this blow out real problematic picture for any bull at the moment with the dow down 537 and look at russell down 2-point #% as well. 2.8% as well. we're coming right back with dennis garton.
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liz: fox market alert. i want to get to the drivers of
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the selloff that you see on your screen. let's cut to the chase and investors wiped out all of yesterday's 2% rally and in some cases more. after rallying 548 points yesterday, the dow jones industrials well give it 8 points, it's down 540 points at the moment and it has been considerably lower and driver number one for the second day in a row, apple is getting sliced and diced. listen, there are a couple of issues here but this just hit the tape, breaking news, bloom burg is reporting the tech giant's vice president of procurement tony blevins is leaving the company abruptly due to alleged crude remarks he made in a tiktok video. blevins was a 22 year veteran of apple and yesterday we got a report that the company was abandoned its plan to boost production of the new iphone 14. today in a very rare move, bank of america slapped apple with a downgrade taking it down from a buy to a neutral and cutting
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apple's price target to $160. it's $141.29 right now. driver number two, classic case of good news versus bad news. good news is bad news on wall street. a surprise drop, this is good news in weekly jobless claims to their lowest level since april has investors fretting with such a strong labor market and fewer workers applying for unemployment benefits the federal reserve will continue on aggressive rate hike path. so cue the hangover. with 32 minutes left to trade, it's the nasdaq where the retreat is really looking at as the leader here and led by tech. if you drill down deeper into what is right now a 377 point loss, which of course blanks out yesterday's 222 point gain, the top 20 nasdaq laggards are peppered with semiconductor stocks and advanced micro-devices and nvidia is down and that is down and amd down 7%
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and nvidia down 5%. micron, mu down two and a third percents and they report after the bell so stay tuned for that. it's days like this where longer term investors can be tempted to become short term traders. monday with ian heading to the u.s., a long term dennis ga rtman expected a market bounce. we expected that yesterday. where is he right now. we're bringing in dennis gartman to find out where he stands at this moment. your point was a co a contrarion bullish bent would happen. >> i have to remember when i got into business in the early 1970s, the dow was at 475 so you went twice what the dow was when i first got in the business. 1,000 point rally is a pretty decent rally. i thought it might take a week or two to get a 1,000 point rally out of the dow. we go from being severely
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oversold to being modestly overbought and we got overbought very quickly and i've been bearish of the stock market since january 5 of this year and relentlessly bearish and as the chairman, i got us to move 12% of the portfolio out of the market the very last day of last year and i wish i had more influence of my board of directors to take us down even more. i said monday morning, i thought you'd get a bounce and reduce the size of long positions and not a point to get bullish but less bearish for a matter of a few days and use the strength to reduce the size of one's position. that's what i've done for my own account and what i'll continue to do. liz: you continue to be bearish, and i like your point about the endowment fund. for those that don't know, universities like university of akron have endowment funds. how big is the fund over there, can you tell us? >> we're pretty small.
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almost $450 million and not $20 billion and it's our $450 and it's important to us. liz: absolutely. you went to at least 12% out of equities, which obviously was a very smart move, but this is not the time to be selling, is it? i mean, when i'm looking at this point, you know, charles just ended his show talking about somebody who said, am i supposed to sell out of my 401k? no, you don't sell into a down market; correct? >> as charles said, it depends on your perspective and in five years from now, stocks will be higher than where they are now and three months from now, they'll be demonstratively lower. there's problems with the federal reserve bank and rouse resolute in the comments from the f1c and fight against
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inflation that they themselves created and they'll continue to raise the overnight fed funds rate to 4.5 or 5% before it's done and that's given the fact that they're going to be selling $95 billion or allowing to pull it out of their assets, which they had risen from $900 billion to $9 trillion in the last decade. that was the fuel to drove the bull market and taking that fuel away. for the next three months you have to be very careful of being a buyer. very worried about another 10 or 12% on the downside and worried about the next five years, sit tight. liz: okay, i think ryan higgins headline is in the -- your headline is the next three months, stocks will be demonstratively lower than right now. wait to start scooping up good goals. >> there's some things out there and high dividend yielders and make some, you know, there's some reason to own them but at this point, i think you should be reticent to be a buyer and keep your hands -- money on the
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sidelines and just wait. the public has not begun to sell and that's what bothers me. liz: i was looking at high etfs and they're down over multiple metrics over the past six months and year to date. phones, dividend stocks have value but you've got to be careful and not going to immediately see a big bump and it's a little dicey. i got to ask you about the bond market and how it plays into the psychology of the stock market looking at ten year, yesterday it was at 3.71%. but it topped 4% in the the first time in 1 years and right now we -- 12 years and we have it at 3 pl 3.75% and even the to year and that's above 4%, 4.17% at the moment. where do you stand on that, dennis? >> i have a fair amount of my own money into the two year a week and a half ago.
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we got close to 4% for two years is a reasonable return and i'll get my money back, but i think the problem shall be that the 10 year goes to 5% before this is done and when i first started and i had my seat on the chicago board of trade in the late '70s and early '80s and remember trading the long at 4.25 coupon and can't give them away. can rates go higher at the long end? yes, the 10 year to 5 bernards 0 year to 6% before this is done. we'll get it done without having to invert much more than we had to invert. that's been problematic. again, be careful. the 60/40 stock bond circumstance has been prune to be somewhat problematic this year. liz: oil is all over the map too. before we g i need your thought on commodities where they're industrial commodities or soft wwwho had commodities like whea.
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>> i like wheat a lot and getting it in the ground, drilling it into the ground and dry weather conditions. drought in kansas, drought in oklahoma and texas, i think wheat prices go higher than where they are right now. of all the things i'm bullish on, probably on wheat more than anything else. i find it interesting today that in the past two months as when stocks in gold tick for tick and percentage point for percentage point we've seen gold hold relatively steadily while the stock market was under measure and maybe you want to be a buyer of gold here for the first time in a while. liz: that's probably interesting. peter schiff is probably doing a happy dance right now. it's flat on the session. dennis, a pleasure to have you. thank you very much. >> liz, good to see you. thanks for having me on. it's an honor. liz: you got t any time. hurricane ian, yes, it's leaving florida battered and bruised. ft. meyers virtually underwater
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but now it is heading out over the atlantic and then back, expected to go back slam into georgia and the carolinas. we've got the ceo of panera brands exclusively. he's got hundreds, not just florida panera bread stores but einstein bros locations pummeled by the storm and in the eye of the path now. georgia and south carolina we're going to talk to the ceo coming up in just a minute. closing bell, 24 minutes away. we've paired some of the losses here at the worst point dow was down 686 and now down 484. we're coming right back.
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liz: folks we need to keep you updated on this hurricane because it does affect different aspects of the market, the business world, the national
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hurricane center now issuing a warning for the entire atlantic coastline as hurricane ian moves northeast past florida and it is expected to possibly strengthen to a category 1 hurricane. ian is expected to make landfall again and coming back around their between georgia and the carolinas tomorrow with hurricane-force winds and record flash flooding. with more than 300 fast casual restaurants directly in ian aes path, panera bread ceo is here to take us through how the panera, einstein bros and caribou is helping out. let's bring in niren chaudhary. i'm glad you and your team members are okay hawaii are you hearing from the front line of the hurricane? >> thank you, liz. it is a very tough situation out there. one that we are watching with
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huge amount of concern for the safety of our associates and we have about 300 stores that are potentially in the path of the hurricane and we're taking all of the precautions necessary and closing stores to ensure all of our employees and our customers are protected and safe so far i'm happy to share that is the case and we haven't come across any adverse news with regards to safety of our employees. liz: yeah, you have stores in savannah, you've got stores along the coastline in the carolinas. are you closing them or what are you doing ahead ovthe storm? >> we're closing them in anticipation and watching it very closely because it's a fast moving situation, and our biggest priority is the safety of our employees so i think we
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are closing proactively, staying in close contact with the teams and ensuring they get all the support they need, and so far i think, i feel that we are ensuring that the safety is, you know, protected for our stores and our employees most importantly. liz: absolutely. absolutely. i also want to talk about what else you guys have been getting hit with and that is food inflation and obviously commodities inflation. how are you dealing with that and the federal reserve has now hiked rates three-75 basis point hikes over the last couple of months. are you seeing any easing of high prices when it comes to food? >> yeah, inflation has been a massive head wind and challenge for most of the year. our food inflation has been anywhere between 10 to 15% to
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this point in time and packaging north of 20, 25% and along with all the other lines and pnls it's been hard to navigate that and participate where the end -- anticipate where the end point is. we continue to price that infellation out and the other aspect is how it affects our associates in the cafes and how their life and cost of live asking getting increasingly difficult and we're keeping that in mind as well and pricing well ahead of inflation and then investing back into our talent and our people. i think it's important to not only cover the inflation and commodities but to invest back to our front line associates who have been impacted the most. liz : i'm glad you guys take care of your blows and you've been bestowed upon a very, very
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nice award which matters. can you tell us about that? >> yes, liz. we were the top 20 most populous brands in the country along with very, very prom nathanial hackette brands and we feel very reassured and encouraged by that ebbing in addition because at wow. narrow angle ragaini as you know -- panera, it is so important that we have a broader impact agenda, not just in terms of enterprise value creation but also making a meaningful difference in the lives of our community, planet, and associates. we are very happy to get this recognition. liz: congratulations, i know you were hoping for the market to give you recognition. you were on track to go public via spac with danny meyers spac, and that did not work out. market conditions; correct? any other interested parties in the future you believe can take your company public? >> well, we are exactly where we
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were when we last spoke about it. there's no change in the narrative there so there's nothing really new for me to disclose on that front. liz: well, we'll be watching it and we do hope everybody on your team stays safe and congratulations on being such a good company to work for. thank you, niren. >> thank you. liz: niren chaudhary. aaron judge added another list to names with his home run champs with his record-tieing home run last night. today's count down closer has stock picks he thinks can clear all the basis. closing bell 13 minutes away and we're coming right back. the dow down about 457 points.
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liz: dow jones sell yaoff and russell down 243 and talking to niren chaudhary from panera bread and his own employees are struggling and inflation is taking the fizz out of corporate america. a lot of belt tightening going
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on. we now according to charlie gasparino have one of the biggest companies slashing their work force. >> pepsi co and they're not in the layoff stage and people close to the company that may come later if economy continues. we have inflation but not a severe recession but everybody is predicting one. you heard what ken griffin at citadel said and we may have a hard landing at 2023. major companies are cutting back. pepsi co is the latest company that we understand is cutting back. again, not layoffs but what sources there are telling us is that they're looking at buyouts, essentially buyouts for anybody over 55 years of age. liz: really? >> i believe it's like a one year salary, get your pension, blah blah blah but you're out the door and can cut costs. it's inside the place, the word is that this is the first step to layoffs if the recession does kick in in a way that people like ken griffin believe, a hard
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landing as opposed to something soft. right now it's kind of interesting, we're probably going to have three quarters of gdp, negative gdp growth, probably. we're still probably going to have decent employment but one thing, the fed will raise rates at least once, probably twice. there's a lag between the fed rate increases and how that impacks the economy and that's why you hear people like you name it, ray dalio, ken griffin go down the line and they believe the recession comes in full force after the new year, sometime maybe later this year but definitely in 2023 when those rate hikes kick in. again, corporate america is preparing for this. it's not just pepsico, that's just the one i found today. but read how tech has been cutting back, wall street put all the workers on notice there's likely to be cutbacks there because of deal flows slowing down amid high interest rates and this is what happen when is you raise rates.
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it's very hard to fight the fed on the way up and on the way down. that's why the markets are selling off. actually the markets are off their lows. liz: their lows but we got first time jobless claim numbers that were so low. is this the number you want to see come down. fewer people standing on the unemployment lines. so job growth is still very, very robust. >> or are they dropping out of the work force? liz: there's a lot of jobs being created and ford got 500 in kentucky. >> again, there's a lag and that's why everybody i know that knows anything about economics will tell you that it's rate increases first, you see companies pairing back, slashing costs and you go from that to where it starts impacting on corporate earnings and then there's bigger layoffs and it comes later down the road. i can't guarantee that's going to happen. i can only tell you. they're giving me the wrap to
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finish what i'm saying. i can only tell you that everybody i know that is smart in this business says you can't fight the fed on the way up and can't fight them on the way down and this is happening. i don't like it happening but -- liz: we'll be watching pepsico and charlie gasparino. closing bell five minutes away and closing bell 428 points just over an hour ago and now down 324 so not that much better but you know what is better, new york yankees slugger aaron judge's record. he made history last night slashing his 61st home run of the season tieing roger merris's 61-year-old learn league record and the market striking out today. you see where i'm going with this and see what i'm doing here. countdown closer his picks that he think could hit it out of the
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park. joining me is the portfolio manager max wasserman. one of your picks is the stock we talked about with charlie, pepsi. >> sure, it's good to see you again. it's interesting you're on the show when the markets are down talking stocks. that's what you like. but i think people have to take a step back. we are long term dividend growth investors so when we're looking at market, we're looking at it for more than a three, four, six weeks but a six months and longer. your recent comment about pepsi, the stock is not as down as much as the market because of a couple things, 55% of the revenue comes from convenient food snacks. the f fritos, cheetos et cetera. 40% from beverages and growing roughly about 8% organning growth and 50 consecutive -- organic growth and 50 consecutive dividends and stable company like pepsi should do relatively well compared to the
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market. that's where we like it and long term. we think it's a good growth story. they're growing again about 8% in organic growth. we like that. liz: they got the salty snacks. got to have salty sweet. marx let me bring up broad come and it's a semiconductor stock and big exposure to china and semi-mys getting hammered today and why pick this in particular? >> broadcom is training roughly with earning ands pays you -f% dividend and growing 6% annually and what's hurting them is not trying up and they have a $31 billion backlog and china has agreements with them they can't cancel it. the problem with broadcon looking at apple. this market is kristin by the ets and apple is one of the biggest in the s&p at 7.1%. when apple goes, it'll take the chips with it. if you look at broadcon down about 30% off the highs and 12 times earnings and 3.7% and
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growing and business year over year has grown 30% and reported numbers that were spectacular but this is a market moving in sympathy. you cannot have the largest stock in the s&p that's a technology in nasdaq and in that goes, it's taking all technology stocks down with it. liz: i want to look at apple's stock because in the last let's call it 1.5 minutes -- less than that of trade here, it's starting to move here. it's down just under 5% but i don't know if these are, you know, people who are scooping up at a cheaper price, but as you look at overall market picture, where do you see it going? we had a rally yesterday and today a selloff.
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>> it's a great company and a lot of cash but it needs to correct. it needs to come more in line with the mississippis in our opinion. we like the company -- microsoft in our opinion we like the company but underweight versus the market and 7% in the s&p and going to 4% waiting in the portfolio. liz : okay, max, we're going to leave it there. max wasserman, great to have you. stocks are closing at the lows of the yearment we're goon be right back here tomorrow because you never know. larry: hello, folks. welcome to kudlow and i'm larry kudlow and we're here at the reagan presidential library which is a great big treat for me because he was my former boss 40 something odd years ago. later this evening i'm being honored and national galla dinner to

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