morning, it is 10:00 eastern and we better get straight to the money. it's monday morning. i tell you this, i have green for the dow industrials. dow is up about 350, a modest gain for the nasdaq up 84 points. the ten-year treasury yield came way down this morning and could have be a flight to the safety of treasuries and price of oil going up and opec askerring a 1 million per barrel per day production cut and bitcoin

hovering around $1,019 recently. we have a key economic support on the manufacturing sector and latest rebuild of. it's up 400. lauren: bad number. just above expansion at 50.9 and down three months in a row now. much less than 52.8 that the manufacturing sector was at in august and hovering in the expansion category. stuart: look at the market, soon as that number came out implying weakness and up goes the market. bad news on the economy and good news for stocks. maybe they're thinking the fed won't be so aggressive in raising rates. maybe that's the theory, but we're up 400 for the dow industrials. you got that? lauren: good job. excellent analysis. i'm looking for prices paid component and that'll give us an indication of inflation coming down and reaching peak inflation. stuart: everyone, now this -- lauren: and it went down. stuart: it looks like another

gaffe, it's certainly a controversy. vice president harris spoke about the effects of climate change on the people of color and how to distribute aid and it should be based on "equity". that means you get help based on your skin color. elon musk said it should be according to greatest need and not race or anything else. well said, elon. harris has a habit of using word salad kind of language and you listen and feel like you're in a sociologist class and fox news caught up with harris and said explain the equity comment. she would not answer, she would not clarify. i expect this administration would hand out assistance based on race but kamala harris can't say that in plain english

because there's an election in five weeks and most voters surely do not want any racial preference in helping hurricane victims. surely. second hour of varney is getting started. will cain is joining me now. am i making a mountain out of a mole hill with harris? >> absolutely not. this is massive and the vice president is implying racism is note worthy. the only disagreement i might have with your take, stuart, is i do think while it might not bt in plain english, hermineing is crystal clear. we know -- herm her meaning is crystal clear. we know what she means saying hurricane ian relief should be distributed according to equity

and that means the color of your skin. we don't have to guess or speculate. you're right about the sociology class, stuart, because what happened over the past decade probably is that the term equity emerged from the sociology classroom into popular culture and now into governance. for many casual viewers of the news they might think equity is some kind of similar sounding word to equally. but it's not. and she lays it out. she says specifically for communities of color and says in that clip, for equal outcomes and she's simultaneously laying out the definition of equity dividing people by their race and not giving them equal outcomes. she's not hiding the ball but using language that quite honestly we all should know at this point. equity is not equality and the second most powerful person in the united states is ready to employ a par tide-like racism in

the state. stuart: 600,000 known got aways this fiscal year and start with bill who's normally at the border and he's in dc. he's confronted democrats about the border crisis. listen to this. >> 250,000 unaccompanied migrant children arrived at the border since president biden took office, some trafficked and some drowning in the river. any issue with that? that's question, ma'am, is the border secure? do you agree with the administration the border is secure? we'll let you go. chairman, in your opinion, is the border secure? >> i have to go give a speech. did you hear me? >> i heard you, it's a quick question. is the border secure? i'm with fox news, do you have a few moments to talk about the border? >> i don't. >> a few moments is all i'm asking for. i reached out to your office last week and asked to talk to you, they blew me off. >> i appreciate it. >> 900,000 got aways. no comment? >> i have to go.

stuart: nothing changes, does it? >> no, first of all, great job by bill at the border and now at washington -- c. what stands out is the evasiveness. alejandro mayorkas there and it's his job and won't answer any questions. it's the eight indignant naturei have a speech. how dare we question your iowa hawkeyes tin area -- iowa hawkeyiitinerary.it's the numben coming to the future of america. they will simply ignore it, but i don't think they're ignoring it in terms of -- they're not ignorant of what's happening, they're inviting of what's happening at the southern border. stuart: and they can't admit it. will cain, good stuff, thank you for being with us. always appreciate it. >> thank you. stuart: before our next guest, i

want to point out the market. the dow is up nearly 500 points and this comes rights after a weak report on the manufacturing sector. now, do we get the inflation numbers? lauren: yes, the price is paid for september and for the sixth month in a row, fell more than expected to 51.7. peak inflation might be past. stuart: maybe, maybe. lauren: as far as this report is concerned. stuart: the market is looking at a very positive and dow up 487 and nasdaq up 130 and s&p up 58 and all in percentage terms. nice rally there. the florida still as we all know, florida reeling from the hurricane. jeff seeker is with me. jeff has been involved in developmental projects on the east coast of florida in a substantial way. all right, jeff, will developers, private developers, will they go back to florida after this? >> i definitely think they're going to go back because keep in mind, prior to the hurricane, florida was the hottest real estate market in the country

with a significant shortage in apartment units so what i see is that that need is going to be now accelerated times ten so -- stuart: you can't develop a property in florida these days after hurricane ian without flood insurance and where are you going to get flood insurance at, what price? >> it is such a problem right now. flood insurance is virtually impossible to get 2349 state of florida and you have to go through the state agency to get it. not many people have it and now you're looking at the companies that have insured for flood, you have about 27 of those companies that are on this watch list for potential ill liquidity. it is hard to get it and when you're looking at 60, 70, $80 billion worth of damage and a good percentage of those homes that were lost don't have coverage, there's going to be a lot of hurting people and they can't rely on the government.

they should rely on -- to an extent, on private developers coming and rebuilding these neighborhoods. stuart: i can understand the reluctance to rebuild on the grounds that if you can have this happen to -- like on sanibel island for heaven's sake. that's the other side of the state, but i can understand people being unwilling to redevelop sanibel island because the threat is always going to be there. >> right, and that's what most people are saying, they're saying why would you want to build there when the next hurricane comes and is going to wipe us out again. you know, that is a real question that needs to be answered. thankfully you can address some of the structural issues and build better. stuart: our guest just lost his restaurant, he said, look, it's going to be five years before they come back. >> it's going to be years, but i think when you look at a state like florida, which is such a great state in so many ways,

there's going to be a lot of people that are willing -- developers worth their salt are willing to invest long term in a community and those are the people who are going to help florida the most. stuart: let's hope so. jeff, thank you for being here. we've got hurricane ian, could be one of the costliest storms in history. lauren: yeah. the prompter says there's a bright spot. what's that? lauren: it spared the fertilizer industry for the most part. and that's good news because next month is when farmers typically buy phosphate for november and ports are open and running and we're not understand estimating at all and the damage is severe. look at this. it's expected to cost between $70 and $120 billion looking at economic damage but a small bright spot. stuart: but talking about fertilizer. there's a fertilizer mine in the middle of central florida. that wasn't hit? lauren: not that i know of.

stuart: that's good news. lauren: because that's a $20 billion corridor where ian did hit and it spared key facilities. >> and these fertilizer, this is mosaic. this phosphate is only made many mass in three places in morocco and china and it would have seen food prices go even higher and we were really spared a very significant consequence. stuart: dodged a bullet. >> yes. stuart: good, thanks, jeff. movers with dow up 520 points and tesla down 6.7%. lauren: biggest decliner on the s&p 500 and that's a big decline when the market is rallying more than 500 points. their third quarter deliveries missed estimates and in order to meet their full year goal of about 1.4 million vehicles being delivered, that means this corridor, hello, fourth quarter, they have to deliver half a million cars and that's going to be hard for them to do. stuart: okay, docusign having a

tough time recently and this morning. lauren: morgan stanley cut them to underweight and lowered the price target to 47 from 73. it seems they're just not confident in their restructuring. the stock is down, it was a pandemic winner and down 65% this year. stuart: the market is tanking and struggle to find winners. when it's going straight up, you struggle to find lousiers but you found a few. losers but you found a few. norwegian cruise lines, i'm board with cruise lines. lauren: they're having masking requirements beginning tomorrow and the stock is up a bit. a lot of cruise companies were lower and might have turned around in this market strength here. see, carnival is lower. carnival scared the markets and reported last week a bad quarter. carnival is down when the market is up 405 points. stuart: i was worried about cruising. lauren, thank you.

britain's -- quiet on the set. britain's prime minister scrapped plans to cut taxes for the wealthy and i'll have doug about the huge reversal. chuck todd came to the defense of the president after his latest gaffe. roll tape. >> the anal seizure disorders af the tongue, move on, it's unfortunate, again, life is here. it is likely, we've all done it before. stuart: joe concha is all over that one. believe me that . is later on the show. marco rubio fears putin may strike nato territory. watch this. >> it's quite possible he could end up striking some of the distribution places where the supplies are coming through and put inside poland. stuart: if that happened, what would our response be? i'll ask katie mcfarland next. ♪

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in fact it's improved. we've got some numbers on the manufacturing sector, came out at 10:00 eastern time and suggested weakness. apparently the stock market likes weakness in the economy. perhaps the fed won't be so aggressive and up goes the down to the tune of 500 points and there was a positive inflation element within that manufacturing report. that's helping the market. chevron, caterpillar, home depot, they are the top gainers among the dow 30. overseas now, president zelensky says more settlements have been rib rated around the -- liberated in the region after ukraine reclaimed full control of the eastern city of lyman.

trey with the latest. >> stuart, good morning. there were fresh territorial gains for the ukrainians this weekend at the war grinds on in the east. ukrainian troops throw russian flags to the ground and they've recaptured the strategic town of limon and this soldier said more than seven months into the war, ukrainian forces keep liberating territory in the eastern part of their country, areas that vladamir putin says are part of rush cha. in another region, the civilians are ukrainians despite the lies spewed from moscow. at a bakery near the front license, workers make bread and half used to feed hungry soldiers nearby. it's a feat to work at a time like this when the bombing is going on she says, but we are not afraid.

we make bread and the people, our military and defenders need it. many ukrainians across the east in desperate need of aid and some are living under russian control and face a cold and uncertain winter for their loved ones. like victoria, who lives in the recently liberated town of [inaudible] and waits for supplies with her family. the older child was frightened and the younger one didn't understand what happened, victoria says. when they started bombing us with aircraft, my daughter was only 2 weeks old. today the russian duma is meeting to ratify putin's annexation announcements from last week and the latest choreographed movement by the russians in this war. stuart: trey in ukraine, thanks so much. senator rubio is warning that a desperate putin may strike nato per tour. roll tape. >> i think it's quite possible that he could end up striking some of these distribution place where is these supplies are coming through and putting inside poland. a lot of talk about nuclear, but i think the thing i worry most

about is a russian attack inside nato territory for example aiming at the airport in poland or some other distribution point. stuart: katie mcfarland with me. katie, if the russians attacked nato territory, how do you think america should respond? >> well, you know, we're members of nato alliance and if russia starts attacks alliance members, our nato members, we have no choice but to defend nato. now, what i'm worried about in all this is as putin gets increasingly desperate, marco rubio is right and putin is really desperate and could get more desperate and he knows he cannot stay in power or even stay alive if he has to come back in defeat from ukraine. he can escalate by cutting the fiberoptic underwater cables like that i can sabotaged the pipeline and could use tactical nuclear weapons and he has an adviseerer general saying use

biological tactical nuclear weapons and there's sights in the -- sites in nato countries resupplying ukraine. if we're not thinking this through right, we could slide ourselves in a war that nobody wants except maybe vladamir putin, a war between nato and russia. stuart: but at the same time conservatives in the united states seem to be split on helping ukraine. had a congressman on the show last week and he was adamantly opposed about spending $16 billion extra for weapons to ukraine. if you've got a split amongst conservatives, not sure how strong a response president biden can put in place. >> well, you know, when you're in a situation, especially in life or foreign policy with no good options, get new offenses. what would the new options here be? how about taking putin's ability to take war away from him. how would you do that? stop war on fossil fuels and

produce oil and natural gas and have oil and natural gas be the main suppliers to europe and drive the price of oil and nash rale gas down, you want -- nash rale gas down and he cannot conduct war and not going to pay for 300,000 troops he's mobilized and bankrupt russia. i was part of the reagan administration and the way we won the cold war without firing a shot was bankrupting russia and we should concentrate on doing that again and quickly. stuart: should we not give ukraine the weapons it needs to absolutely win? >> no, i think you do two things at once. you give ukraine what it needs understanding unconditional surrender by vladamir putin isn't going to happen but give ukraine what it needs to continue to fight and push the ukrainians as well as the russians towards a negotiating solution. why? time is on ukraine's hands. if ukraine is the fighting stop since ukraine gets enough to survive, russia gets enough to

survive, what happens in five years in all those people come on your show and talk about how their investing in rebuilding ukraine. the world will rush to ukraine. nobody is going to invest in russia. five years after a ceasefire, you crane is fully integrated into the western world and economy and russia is sitting out there all by itself with low oil and natural gas prices in bulk. stuart: five years from now putin might not be around. just throwing that out there. katie mcfarland, thanks for b being with us. see you soon. >> you got it. stuart: pressure warning about ominous parallels between the market today and market back in 2007. congressman mcshane will break it down for us coming up. nearly 5,000 flights were delayed yesterday, 480 canceled. ian's remnants brought strong winds and rain along the eastern sea board and messed up the airline industry. we'll be back with that.

stuart: the dow up over 60 points and nasdaq over 160 points and we receive news of inflation reading that's kind of positive. the market took back this running with it and maybe the fed won't be aggressive with raising rates and dow up 600 and nasdaq 165. we have movers of course on a day like this there's a lot of movers, l3 harris, what's the story? lauren: a defense contractor and expanding communication capability by buying satellite company military capability units and the shares are up 42%. stuart: oh, yes, that's a rally. lauren: a very big rally on a day when the overall market is rallying too. stuart: how about peloton? lauren: by the end of the year, about 5500 hotels will have pelotons. they're up 4% finally some good

news. stuart: nike had a rotten week last week. what are they in today? they're up i think? lauren: inventory surged 44% and at least four brokerages that cut price on the stock today. why are they up? there's a report they plan to open 200 stores in the u.s. and europe so they're confident in their business going forward, but they would use those stores kind of digitally. go in and maybe return an item you bought online. stuart: okay. nothing wrong with that. lauren: they're committed to brick and mortar. stuart: lauren, thank you. president biden travels to puerto rico today and touring damage left behind by hurricane fiona and wednesday in florida to tour the damage from hurricane ian. what can we expect from the visits, mark? >> stu, good morning. the president and first lady left the white house a few minutes ago and making the day trip to puerto rico and look at some of the damage from hurricane fiona after sweeping across the island roughly two weeks ago. it's amazing after all that

time, there's at least 100,000 people without power in puerto rico. during the remarks today the president is expected to pledge at least already 60 million to help the island recover and the island going to infrastructure projects and strengthen flood walls and a new flood warning system in advance of future storms and the president back on the road on wednesday making stops in florida to meet with officials and residents dealing with hurricane ian and white house officials say since that storm hit, right now there are 44,000 utility workers in the state of florida just trying to restore power. now, before he gets to florida though, there's a bit of controversy brewing after vice president kamala harris recently suggested that federally for this storm and others in the future could be tide to whether or not this is an equity factor. this is what she had to say on friday. >> our lowest income communities and communities of color that are most impacted by these extreme conditions so we have to

address this in a way that is about giving resources based on equity. >> now, those comments have generated quite a bit of backlash from republicans up on the hill. we've already heard from members of the south carolina and florida congressional delegations. we don't know yet who president biden may meet with once he's on the ground in florida on wednesday, whether or not he'd be face-to-face with governor desantis and created a barge in the past and questions about whether or not the white house will stick with comments from the vice president on friday. stu. stuart: got to see what happens there. mark meadows, thank you very much indeed. travel expert jeff hoffner with me now. you stayed if florida during the storm. how much has the travel into and out of the state been affected? >> it's been affected significantly. you know, stu, we had the numbers that would surprise people is that on any given day in the u.s., 30 to 40% of all

domestic flights touch florida. it messes up the entire airline system if 30 to 40% of the system is down. it was a travel nightmare. stuart: now, the airlines are not doing that well to start with. can they handle this kind of setback? >> well, no. it's a difficult setback in an already difficult time so obviously a lot of money is lost. that board you're showing now, i flew yesterday and two out of three of the flights i was trying to get on in florida canceled at the last minute. you know, here's the numbers, for every 12 hours that an airline is shut down, and it was a los more than 12 hours, it was days during the hurricane, it takes them 36 hours on average to get back up to full speed and for an airport, the numbers are every 12 hours you close an airport, it takes them 72 hours. what i'm hearing from the airlines and airports now is travel won't be back to normal

until this coming weekend. so they're going to continue to have canceled flights and lighter schedules and lost revenue. it's a tough situation. stuart: on a separate issue, can you tell us if business travel is coming back? i don't think it is, but you're the expert and you tell me. >> it is still not coming back. people are continuing to use technology, and with something like this hurricane, it just reinforces company's decision to say anything can happen. let's just schedule technology meetings where we cancel. business travel is lagging and it's probably a year or two before we see it come back. the same thing with international travel; right. the money for the airlines is in business travel and international and neither of them are coming back at any time soon. stuart: it ruins business travel. if you've got to go to an important meeting and gnarr you're not absolutely sure the air linn can get you there,

you'll go to zoom. >> don't take the risk. you know if you zoom, you can conduct your meeting and everyone is used to that and more likely to say yes. stuart: are airline ticket prices going up this year to make money to re-coop their losses? >> so they are and we need to tell our listeners about that. this coming holiday season, demand is expected to be high like, you know, thanksgiving wednesday will once again be one of the busiest days of the year just like the day after christmas, but i just saw a number, stu, they're expecting travel fares like christmas fares this year to be 43% higher on average than they were last year. if you're traveling for the holidays, the sooner you buy the better. 43% more than last year's prices. fares will be high. stuart: i shall remember that. jeff hoffmann, thank you very much, sir. we'll see you soon. >> thanks. stuart: united airlines

temporarily halting service at jfk airport, why? lauren: starting october 29 because they can't get slots. united bailed on jfk back in 2015. they thought the newark city corporate traveler would stay and fly out of newark and that never happened. they came back to jfk a bit last year but operates just a few routes and say that's not fair to their customers and working with faa to get more slots but they're bailing for the time being at the end of the month from jfk. stuart: thanks, lauren. florida's governor ron desantis has a warning for looters. roll tape. >> don't even think about looting, don't even think about taking advantage of people in this vulnerable situation. i would not want to chance that if i were you given that we're a second amendment state. stuart: msnbc joy reed is comparing his remarks to a segregationist sheriff from 50 years ago. we'll tell you all about that.

king charles will not attend the upcoming global climate summit and made a big decision here and he's been a climate worrier all his life and now he's a king and can't touch politics. douglas murray on that next. ♪

stuart: well, well, tune into a financial program on a monday morning because you want to figure out your money. you make mistakes and over the past few weeks, the market has gone straight down and this morning it's straight up. lauren: what a rally. stuart: bailing out nicely on that one.

carnival, i've been rallying against this for a long time. down again. up 23% on friday and now at a 30-year low. no comment on that. we don't have type. check the market overall. we are up this morning, not bad at all. analysts though are sounding the alarm on the parallels between the market today and the financial crisis of '07. we have the story down to the comparison. >> yeah, of the chatter and a lot of people are talking about it and i was talking to my mom about it over the weekend as a matter of fact. but not to bring that up, it's one of those things that's a lot of chatter and people point out parallels and i don't think they're necessarily making predictions yet. larry summers, former secretary treasurer and that's the most notable person to get into it and should have increased anxiety of people getting anxious in august of '07 and earthquakes don't come all of a sudden and there's tremors first and most of the time with tremors, they're just tremors and goes away. just not 100% of the time and, you know, the tremor to watch

now seems to be liz truss, the prime minister of the uk and her government over there. tax cut plan, markets not receiving it all that well. bank of england intervenes and some have drawn parallels to the french bank, bnp from august of '07 and its funding problems and didn't seem like a huge deal then but they do now. this morning we wake up to the news the uk is backtracking dropping its pledge to cut the rate for top earners over there. this is still a story still playing itself out. the pound went up against the dollar when that news broke today. then credit sweep. that stock is hire in the last little bit. forget any comparison and if anybody was talking this way, no leeman brothers weekend and the idea the bank spent the last few days trying to calm people down about the health was alarming to some and wall street journal was having phone calls with clients and investors and the spreads were up and credit default swaps and haven't heard that since way

back when but the stock is up and ceo has been able to reassure people and the perspective on the actual market and s&p 3500 up 54% in a 17 month stretch during the financial crisis. for all the trouble we're in now and s&p going back 17 months from friday, it's a 14% decline. so, you know, tremors as larry summers says, stuart, and they usually go away, just not 100% of the time. stuart: they do make you think. >> they do. it's that weird feeling of oh, there's a bank over the weekend that kind of brings back memories to what we went through. it's not a direct parallel but brings back the memories. stuart: somebody said leman moment. thank you very much, chris. >> yes, sir. stuart: cringe charles will not a-- king charles will not attend the international climate summit next month. are you surprise that had the new king is walking away from politics? that's what he's doing here? >> i'm not surprised and i think

it's very good that he is. it appears he's doing so on the advice of the british prime minister liz truss and she suggested that he shouldn't attend next month's conference in egypt. the reason i think -- two reasons why this is important. first of all, of course, king charles when he was prince of wales was heavily political and spoke out about highly political issues, which worried a lot of people and in a constitutional monarchy, you cannot have a king having his own policies. second thing is of course is that king charles has had a life-long commitment to environmental causes and what would happen if for instance he spoke at the summit, urged people to have for instance carbon targets for the next few years and they didn't match up with the targets of the british government. you have effectively constitutional crisis and it's very good he's not going and hope he does more of this not speaking on things. stuart: what do you make of new

prime minister liz truss reversing her decision to cut taxes on high-income earners? the government's in turmoil over there. >> it is. liz truss has only been prime minister for a month, under a month. she has already has her first major u turn after first major financial announcement. the mini budget as it's called the week before last sent the market into turmoil and caused an enormous political backlash in the uk and put labor out 20 points ahead in the polls and there's an election tomorrow and caused an amount of people speculated people have trying to get rid of liz truss and the u-turn over the tax change and that's a very humiliating thing and probably less humiliating to make that u turn at this stage than to sp stick to a policy tht

was seeing revolutions in her own party. stuart: it was an extraordinary situation in a base of a few weeks is all you got. thank you, douglas. >> that's it. stuart: people with british accents are in the news and that's a fact. douglas murray, thanks a lot. >> the more the better. stuart: whatever you say. indonesia, serious stuff here, they announced a new investigation into a stampede at a soccer stadium over the weekend. tell me more. lauren: it was a packed stadium, beyond capacity. late saturday so it got dark and ffans of losing team started throwing things at rival players and officials. police used force and then tear gas to break them up. that led to the fans rushing to the exits and only two exits were actually open. 125 people died and the indianapolis nissan government appointed an independent commission to investigate why the police used excessive force and tear gas and why the stadium allowed 4,000 more people than they were supposed to into the

stadium. stuart: and why throw tear gas into the middle of the situation. situation. lauren: and you're running and can't breathe and running and gate trampled. stuart: brian kemp going after cancel culture and doesn't like the name of changes the atlanta braves. full report coming up. saturday night live mocking trump even though he's been out of office for two years. >> where's the balance politically. they're making trump columbus jokes and joe biden last his damn marbles and they're not going to mention that? stuart: joe concha says trump is the gift that keeps on giving to the media. he's here, next. ♪

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stuart: well, i got to say alike the looks of this. dow up 600 points and nasdaq up

100. i like this. we're off a month of dreadful selling and it's a nice bounce this monday morning. it's nearly two years since president trump exited the white house and saturday night live continues to mock the former president. watch this. >> i got to point out, where's the balance politically. they're making trump columbus jokes and meanwhile joe biden lost his damn marbles and they're not going to mention that? the show is in a rebuilding year for sure. let's take a look at stats so far. 14 attempted jokes this episode only one mild laugh and three chuckles. >> you know, i heard they stay up till 5:00 a.m. writing this show. >> when do they start writing the show, 4:30? stuart: really not sure what to make of that but i want you to look at this headline. for journalists, trump continues to be the gift that keeps on giving. joe concha wrote it and joins me

now. they can't get past president trump, can they? >> they cannot and the new york types, washington post, cnn and msnbc it's a myopia on donald trump but on the literary landscape, stuart, i had my book out obviously, come on, man. it looks at obviously the life and presidency of joe biden and media that helped put him in the white house and i see 15 books that came out either last week, the week before or the next four weeks leading up to the midterm and over a six week period, 15 books are coming out on donald trump. you know how many are coming out on joe biden? one, and you're looking at the guy who wrote it. y u.s. find it amazing that the guy in power, the guy that is polling lower than any president in polling history that not one journalist, not one correspondent can take the time to scrutinize the guy that currently is in the overloves? oval office? no, they're still obsessed about the guy that was in thereforely

two years ago stuart: the liberal media covering up for biden's gaffe where he appeared to forget that congresswoman gentljackie had died. >> i'm sure he's extremely apologetic to the family of the congresswoman if he caused anymore trauma or agony. he had a slip of the tongue. move on, it's unfortunate again. life is here. he understands and empathizes. >> and people make mistakes. stuart: we've all done it before. stuart: they really are stumbling to explain it away. don't the president's handlers realize the damage being done to his image? >> precisely, they don't know baa the white house press secretary was trying to explain that no, no, the congresswoman that deceased was just on the top of the president's mooned

and that's why -- mind and that's why he was asking for her. you don't ask to talk to dead people at a public event unless you forgot they died and this only just happened about a month ago in a very horrific tragic car crash that the president even put a statement out on so, yea, instead of saying he made a mistake and instead of the president actually apologizing himself instead of having somebody that used to work for him saying on meet the press, i haven't heard an apology from him and quite frankly, i'm sure afterwards he didn't know that he made that mistake. stuart: i think you're right, joe. thanks for being with us. love the book by the way. see you again real soon. >> thank you. stuart: just ahead, jason katz, miranda devine and more. desantis is a republican and media does not approve. they want to see a successful desantis challenging presidenthk biden, that's my vote.

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