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elizabeth: we are now coming to you live from washington, d.c. we have headlines coming in at the top of the hour. new warnings about your grocery prices retirement accounts. former president obama warns democrats, stop it with political quote gobbledygook. warning you will lose midterms big time. guess what? white house officials, democrats still doing just that. james comer, darrell issa, andy puzder, former california gubernatorial candidate olympian caitlyn jenner, economic pro steve moore, energy expert nick loris, "daily caller" vince colanese. we have harrowing new footage of outrageous ambush attack on cops in connecticut. the growing list of hollywood stars hit by crime. produce they are fleeing california. also saudi arabia reveals how tenuous and weak the white house position is attacking opec oil production cuts. fbi whistle-blowers, tell

senator chuck grassley, joe biden did know about, was involved in hunter biden's overseas deal-making. plus, they're saying quote, voluminous proof of hunter's alleged criminal misconduct. and this, hunter biden allegedly doing u.s. real estate deals with a billionaire russian oligarch? plus, dr. fauci is battling to preserve his legacy. he is saying he did not advise shutdowns but the records show he did. new game-changer research on covid antibodies. we've got it all. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: less than a month to the midterms. things are now heating up. what exactly is the white house energy policy here? let's get viewer update what is going on with the vote count. >> liz, thanks for coming to washington, d.c. thanks for coming down.

thanks for the work you do. elizabeth: there is constitutional fight here. >> if there is anybody who tells it as it is, a straight-shooter, a smart woman, it is she. i'm proud of her. i look forward to seeing her. >> so excited to have liz macdonald in d.c. welcome to d.c. can't wait to roll out the red carpet for you. elizabeth: thank you, congressman. that was generous, kind. where is the red carpet. no kidding. pleasure having all of you on "the evening edit." we will have you back on this hour, we've got james comer. a bit of a snapback ending up on positive earnings and stablizing bond yields. the dow powers back above 30,000 this is a battle royale on wall street. stocks under president biden below where they were at this point under former presidents trump and obama. because of inflation, interest rate hikes, fights over oil and gas and u.s. energy. edward lawrence at the white house with more. edward? >> liz, officially the white house is analyzing if there should be another release from the strategic petroleum

reserve. no official decision has been made. the last of the 10 million barrels from the previously announced release will be shipped out in november. now gas prices are expected to generally rise as we get well into the winter. a former deputy national security advisor for former president donald trump says current policy leaves us vulnerable. >> the whole thing is just a shell game and the abuse of the strategic petroleum reserve is really a scandal and i wish it were more of an issue with the american people, that they know they're basically robbing peter to pay paul here and we're down to that the spr being half full. reporter:red a minute sprayings trying to get more oil supply on the world market. last july the president went to saudi arabia to meet with the royal family including the saudi prince. 3 1/2 months later president biden has no plans to meet with the saudi crown prince next month at the g20, questioning if saud sudden is siding with russia after opec plus announced

a oil production cut of two million barrels a day. the stress is being felt in the latest "fox news" polls. 29% approve of the president's handling of inflation. 35% of registered voters approve of his handling of the economy and 43% approve of his energy policy. these are just not great numbers. liz? elizabeth: edward lawrence thank you so much. joining us now, former economic advisor to president trump steve moore and former labor secretary nominee andy puzder. both, good to have you on. >> welcome to washington. elizabeth: thank you, i'm enjoying it. imagine if i was here full time torturing both of you. steve, "the hill" is reporting democrats are making contingency plans to replace biden own the 24 ticket. we'll get to the bombshell news about hunter later in the show. elizabeth slotkin, tim ryan, saying they want to get rid of the entire leadership. you have got one reason why everybody is upset. retirement account problems thaw found, right. >> i think most of the viewers of this show know that the

average worker has lost about $4,000 in income because inflation has been so far outpacing wages. so then we decided let's also look at what happened to peoples savings, their retirement accounts. there is something like 120 million americans who have 401(k) plans. that is the retirement nest egg. what we found, liz, average, account, has lost about $34,000. that is a lot of money to lose. elizabeth: it is. >> that means they will not be able to work more years before they can retire. it may mean they won't be able to necessarily have the down payment for that retirement home they were hoping to buy. it is not just peoples incomes that are getting clobbered by inflation. it is also peoples savings and one other quick point, seniors are the biggest losers when you think about it from biden's inflation. they spent their whole life building up savings. now it evaporates. elizabeth: two trillion vaporized under biden. we got this. want your reaction to this,

president obama warns democrat stop with political gobbledygook, cancel culture, buzz kill, focus on kitchen table costs guess what, people like pete buttigieg ignored obama and continued with the gobbledygook. >> i care most deeply about my family, my kids, work that gives me satisfaction. not being a buzzkill. democrats are. you know sometimes people just want to not feel as if they are walking on eggshells and they want acknowledgement life is messy, that all of us at any given moment can, you know, say things the wrong way, you know, make mistakes. >> the president said this week that the economy is both strong as hell but also if there is a recession, it will be very slight. what exactly is the forecast?

>> well, look, i mean forecasting is buy its nature something that is a little bit uncertain. >> that is political spin. san francisco fed has put forward estimates that between .3 to 3% of percentage points in recent inflation is due to physical spending. >> in other words, not most of it, by knows numbers. >> it is not nothing. to argue government spending isn't a contributor here doesn't fully play out. president biden: inflation rate month to month is up just an inch. elizabeth: andy, like 100 miles. by the way obama did political gobbledygook. obama was one putting people on edge, dividing people. he sees writing on the wall, democrats have to knock it off. democrats are making midterm about abortion and trump. >> this is the problem. the problem the democrats positions on these issues are gobbledygook. they have a hard time not talking about it. this is why we have where we are. biden said he wanted to

transform the economy when he was running for office. we went from an economy with economic growth, everybody working engages going up and none of that is happening. we're having serious problems. people can't afford to guy food and buy gas. that is more than gobbledygook. that is not up a inch, it is up a ton. if he would acknowledge that. adopt policies that build up the supply side. cut taxes deregulate, focus own energy production, my god these problems would go away quicker than imagine. he just can't do it. elizabeth: what andy just said, it is a supply side problem. now you have pete buttigieg that the president is laser-focused on inflation, now after 18 months going straight up every month? now he is focused? >> it actually tells you a lot about the absence of any talent in this white house. that the person they're having to talk about the economy is pete buttigieg. i mean, my goodness he is one --

elizabeth: couldn't fill a pothole in indiana. >> the supply chain problems were his responsibility. remember, he was going to fix that. it is not fixed. you have so many problems still in terms of getting goods and services on the shelf contributing to inflation. you contact get a rental car anywhere. can't get a new car these days. shows you they are completely out of touch. i agree with andy, i mean, you need to do the supply side just as important you got to cut government spending. you do. that is what caused problem. elizabeth: democrats to your point they're running away from talking about their government spending. >> they don't want to. elizabeth: they're running away. they're not talking about the stimulus checks that they cheerleaded for. gavin newsom want to do that. but we're going to show that in the beginning democrats were all about all the stimulus checks and money. now they are silenced about it. andy, this feels like the most reactive least strategic white house in modern u.s. history. never has a plan for anything, afghanistan, supply chains,

pandemic, inflation. like gimmicky fixes after the fact. >> they don't have a plan or a ridiculously bad plan. this is really simple. they call it the law of supply and demand for a reason. why they call it a law. if you bring down demand like the fed is doing with interest rates, build up supply side you will do what ronald reagan end to inflation. inflation is causing the problem. elizabeth: reagan and trump was doing it, to a degree george w. to a degree. they so politicized it like anathema, like diabolical talk supply-side econmics. why they can't do it, so politicized economic debate, right, steve? >> this isn't complicated. they came in, spent four trillion dollars, by the way one of their lines, biden came in during a economic catastrophe. that is not true. the economy was starting to boom under trump in last six months. we had solid growth. the vaccine coming out. they screwed it up, if they had done nothing i think economy

would be in wonderful shape. >> add to the equivalent of germany right, in spending? >> yeah. elizabeth: since 20197 1/2 trillion. that is france and germany. >> even trump spent too much money. >> for some of trump it was pandemic. >> of course. >> but the pandemic ended. larry summers, jason furman, steve rattner, obama clinton era economists said do not spend this money. do not do this it wasn't just steve moore, andy puzder, steve moore they did it anyway. elizabeth: did it any way. >> wasn't happening t was transitory. and it wasn't their fault. now they're trying to make up things, they will not fix it. elizabeth: gobbledygook. close it out with gobbledygook again. an did i, steve moore, like to be in studios. it is finance with you. bring the red carpet next time. just kidding. look at saudi arabia, look at this one. saudi arabia going after the white house how weak and tenuous its position attacking opec

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[screaming] >> ah. reporter: at this point officer alec was already injured. he has been shot in the leg. he is already requested backup. so now he will make his way to a cruiser in the street. to use that as cover as he takes his shot to take out the suspect. watch this? [gunfire] the per had surgery for the gunshot wound to his leg. you see him here. he has been released from the hospital. his fellow officers, not so fortunate. they will be laid to rest this week. 35-year-old sergeant dustin demonte leaves behind his pregnant wife and two children. 34-year-old officer alex hamsey leaves behind a wife as well as his parents. send it back to you, liz. elizabeth: nate foy, incredible story. outrageous with what is going on with attacks to cops. thank you for your journalism. welcome to the show, former

california gubernatorial candidate, caitlyn jenner. we wanted you on the show for stories just like that. cops shot. crime hitting homes of hollywood stars. meghan the stallion, marky-mark walberg, leaving california for nevada for a better life. where do you see all of this? what is your take on all of this? >> well, first of all, my condolences, good to see you, liz. my condolences go out to the families of those officers. just watching that, it just shows you how this country is out of control. to be honest with you, you know, i've been around a long time and i don't even recognize our country any longer. it is a shame. i love this country. i love what we're all about. to be honest with you i don't think the voters recognize it

anymore. and we have to change that. we've got a couple of weeks before the next primaries, for the next primaries, it is a good start but, we have to do a lot of work. politicians right now are just ignoring reality and the reality is that crime is out of control. obviously the economy is out of control and the democrats are losing and that is why they're so scared but the republicans were winning and we will take this country back in just a few weeks. elizabeth: you know, caitlyn, we would like your reaction to this, to your point, california governor gavin newsom, he is trying to fire up the democrats. they need to get a narrative to win elections. watch this. >> they dominate the most important thing in american politics today and that's the narrative. facts become secondary to narrative. they dominate with illusion and

we are getting crushed. we are on the defense over and over and over again. >> crime is not an illusion, by the way. what is governor gavin newsom's narrative for california? >> gavin newsom's narrative is to ignore the issues, like all democrats, they ignore it. even whether that statement he said, it is not the truth that really matters, it's the narrative that matters. so lie all you want. gavin newsom's professional at that. he is talking about january 6th. that is what all the voters are thinking about. they're not. that is all over and behind us. we're dealing with what is happening today. the democratic party, is, just not dealing in reality. here we have today, or over the weekend, joe biden getting his ice cream, and he is saying economy is great, it is

powerful, the economy is great. that is actually lying to the american people. gavin newsom is a professional at just avoiding the obvious and creating his own narrative. it doesn't work. the voters are really coming to see that. i think they are going to vote the right way. >> all right. caitlyn jenner, great to have you back on. by the way, it is indianapolis where starbucks pulled out of again. caitlyn, we'll have you back on. good to see you. come back soon. more on fbi whistle-blowers claiming there is quote voluminous proof of hunter biden's alleged criminal misconduct. this bombshell claim that hunter was allegedly doing lucrative real estate deal in various states with a russian oligarch to buy real estate in the u.s. now senator grassley is revealing documents show joe biden was ain hunter biden's overseas deals. may have been involved in some of them. the white house stance is

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overall inflation rate by 50%. there are new potential warnings you have to pay attention to here about your kitchen table costs. kellykelly o'grady at the port f los angeles. reporter: we don't have the long line of ships cueing like last year. that has not yet trickled through the supply chain. we have looming challenges that could bring us back to the height of the chaos. the first is drought. it is causing the lowest water levels in the mississippi river in a decade. the vessels are stuck in the mud and on sandbars this is tough time for food supply. many agricultural goods are ferried this way. 120 billion value. shutting it down do to drought could delay shipments and sending grocery prices even higher. looming railroad deal, six of 12 unions ratified it. five are still voting. the third largest rejected the present deal. the good news there is willingness to negotiate rather

than strike. >> we do not want to strike. our members would prefer to have the sick leave we're asking for. the railroads have made astronomical profits. reporter: if they do strike that would put a lot of stress on our strucking industry. to your point, liz, that industry is already 80,000 drivers short. back to you. elizabeth: incredible journalism. kelly o'grady thank you so much. joining us now energy pro nick loris with c3 solutions. great to have you on, nick. you and i talked about this, nothing drives people to the point of insanity with gas prices at pump and also food prices. look what is going on in france. tens of thousands protesting in street marchs against inflation and rising fuel costs that is in paris, france. we've seen that happening across europe. now we have a fight between the white house and saudi arabia. the president will not meet with saudi prince bin salman out the g20? where do you come down for all of this? what is your forecast for u.s. fuel costs? >> the frustration is evident

across the world. here at home americans are worried about fuel costs, food costs, fuel costs drive higher food prices. it is necessary to transport goods from where they're being produced and consumed. across the board this is increasingly frustrating, eating away at americans pocketbooks as they head to the polls in a few short weeks. this is top of mind for americans. elizabeth: not a good look for the president to eat a ice cream cone while this is happening for u.s. energy costs and also with grocery prices this is relentless march upward and it is really hitting people hard. now the white house is accused saudi arabia of quote, coercing other member nations into supporting the opec cut of two million barrels a day. they officially approved it yesterday. watch nsa jake sullivan. >> president biden meet with the crown prince again at the g20 summit next month?

>> he has no plans to meet with the crown prince at the g20 summit and he is focused, however, on making sure that through every engagement that he has across the board he is looking out for not just the u.s. but for our allies as well. elizabeth: if he is looking out for the u.s. as saudi arabia has said, how can we have not, we've hardly built any refineries inside of the u.s. since 1977. we had one come online recently in texas. >> he should be engaging with american energy producers. he said that he wants to respond to saudi arabia for their production cut and the way to respond is take action here at home. it is to approve keystone xl, have more lease sales on federal lands. process those permits faster. to ease restrictions to build refineries faster. the way we combat opec plus, the way we combat russia and their manipulation of energy markets to increase supplies here at home. we're the world's largest oil

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activities offshore to places like venezuela and saudi arabia, mining in china, the more we're exporting jobs, we're exporting potentially higher energy prices but we're also exporting emissions. so the best thing we can do from an economic and environmentally conscious standpoint is drill here at home, to mine here at home, manufacture the products that we can be a global leader. we have can export these products. create jobs here at home. elizabeth: gang, what nick just said, under biden we import oil from nations that are far more destructive to the environment than the u.s. at home. nick loris, terrific insights. good to see you. come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: fbi director wray is reportedly called out by current and former fbi officials for this alleged conflict of interest. his personal use of an fbi jet. we have got his explanation. also more, we'll dig into this on fbi whistle-blowers claiming there is quote, voluminous proof of hunter biden's illegal

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. we're now coming out of the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. the criminal case of informant for christopher steele's anti-trump dossier is now with the jury. this is special counsel john durham into criminal investigation into the trump-russia probe. david spunt is live in districts court at alexandria, virginia, with more. reporter: liz, good evening. jurors went home 45 minutes ago after deliberating for 3 1/2 hours. did not come to a verdict today, not even a question for the judge. the judge gave them, or they began deliberating about 2:00 this afternoon. left shortly before 6:00.

they will come back tomorrow morning at 9:30. now the judge in the case, anthony trenga dismissed one of the five charges over a technicality last friday. right now igor danchenko faces four counts of lying to the fbi. danchenko is the man the government says was that primary subsource for christopher steele who created that dossier aimed at destroying then candidate donald trump. durham alleged danchenko lied to an fbi agent four times when he claimed he received call from unidentified male from a russian sergey milina who had connection to republican politics. he never received a call. cell phone logs show no phone call came from danchenko phones. you can't prove the call didn't come from app, signal, another encrypted device. special agent, a government witness the man whom danchenko allegedly lied to actually

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voluminous evidence of potential criminal conduct. what is this about? >> they have to have evidence. all the evidence points to criminal activity with hunter biden of the question why didn't the fbi do something about this sooner? this has been going on for nearly a decade. everyone in the intelligence community knows that the biden family has been influence peddling and this should be a concern not only because it is illegal but also because it could compromise joe biden and countries they're influence peddling with are the worst adversaries, china, ukraine, russia, the middle east. these are not countries the average person does business with. i support what senator grassley is doing. i plan on working with senator grassley if the republicans become the majority party in january. elizabeth: he is saying to the fbi you have to release the documents. what is criminality? money laundering, woulding with countries under potential u.s. sanctions. >> dealing with countries with sanctions, excessive cash deposits.

he was not paying taxes. he was in trouble with the irs. we know this for sure. the list goes on and on. potentially was doing business with a firm that may have been involved in human trafficking with some of his purchasing of prostitutes and things like that. this is a bad guy that has been involved in lots of different activity. we're not even talking about the artwork he supposedly sold to china. elizabeth: senator grassley is saying that the fbi whistle-blowers, telling then vice president biden knew about what hunter was doing, may have been involved in some of the deals. that hunter, we've seen evidence of, you know, hunter biden complaining that he was paying for his father's living expenses and more and things that, house expenses. >> absolutely. there is correspondence that shows that hunter biden says he has to keep his dad up. two whistle-blowers have told staff on the oversight committee that hunter biden was paying for basically expenses for joe biden. that is why the bank records are so important. that is why the bank violations are so important. that is where our investigation

is going with the oversight committee. we want to focus on the bank records because at the end of the day. it is not about hunter biden but joe biden. elizabeth: impact on national security. >> impact on national security. hunter biden is a shady character. that has been proven. the problem we have has his shady business dealings impacted the president of the united states? we are concerned that they have. elizabeth: you know, here is the other thing. we have reports coming in that russian oligarch, a billionaire elena, invested $40 million in one of hunter's companies to do, hunter was helping her do investment in office real estate in oklahoma, alabama, new mexico, texas and colorado. so cefc, chinese energy deals with u.s. natural gas in five states selling china. and now this, this it is real estate too with russia. >> think about this with that russian oligarch she didn't get a sanction. when joe biden, when russia invaded ukraine joe biden put sanctions on russia and all the

only oligarchs, except two. they have paid hunter biden. elizabeth: bat. >> these shows joe biden decisions are compromised by dealings with hunter biden. elizabeth: that is interesting. you will start rolling on this in january? >> we'll start rolling. we've been working on this in months. we uncovered a lot of information. we need to put the information together. the most important piece that we need we should have, are those bank violations. remember joe biden changed the rules where congress couldn't have access to those suspicious activity reports. hunter biden has at least 150 bank violations that prior to joe biden becoming president any member of congress could have access to. now in january i will have subpoena power. we'll do everything in our ability to get the bank records as soon as possible. i think that will help put a lot of pieces to the puzzle together. elizabeth: congressman comer, thanks for coming into the

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voluminous evidence of misconduct by hunter biden for his overseas deal-making. what is your first thought about that? >> my first thought, grassley always gets it right or he doesn't say it. my second one, as you have seen the evidence from my own investigation and also stuff that senator grassley has released, you know you have violations, criminal violations, not of getting a gun that he shouldn't have gotten but real criminal violations including the foreign, the farah violations. they are not being prosecuted, or if they're being prosecuted they're not getting wind of those. they're leaking the minor stuff instead of telling us what is really happening. >> it will go away with the other charges in the doj tax evasion, but there is a bigger story? >> there is a much bigger story as we speak a friend of president trump's tom barrick is on trial because he talked to the president while doing business deals overseas as a principle. he came after hunter biden both

during the vice-presidency and during the trump presidency was an agent of foreign governments including china. elizabeth: yeah. who were under sanctions. >> under sanctioned. we is doing that. we haven't heard a word about that violation. in his case it is undeniable. elizabeth: we have to move on to this, current and former fbi agents are really angry that fbi director christopher wray has been using a fbi jet meant for counter terrorism purposes for his personal use to house in adirondacks and outside of atlanta. fbi gave a statement to the to e evening he had edit. fbi director needs aircraft for national security missions. he needs its specific communications and secure phone lines. adheres to federal regulations reimbursement for his use of the aircraft. the complaint he is flying to his personal house in the adirondacks and his house outside of atlanta. so there seems to be a fine line

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elizabeth: we're coming to you live from dc, look who in studio from daily caller. good to see you both. >> good to be here in person. elizabeth: dr. anthony fauci says, i didn't shut anything down, we got the tape, he did say it, watch. >> was it a mistake, in so many states and loyalties to see schools closed as longer as they were. >> i had nothing to do -- let's get down to the facts. >> i didn't shut down anything. i recommended to the president that we shut the country down, only way do that is by d draconian means of shutting down a country, we know we can do

that if we shut down, if i knew at the time that shutting down would have such a dramatic affect to controlling the spread, we would have shut down earlier. elizabeth: chris, what is geeing on. >> and when ron desantis opened schools early, fauci attacked him, said, no, your kids can't go to school. he was on capitol hill showing up every day with a first grader, and a kindergartener trying to get in. teachers saying shed down again -- shut down again. kohl -- again. elizabeth: how could he say he didn't say. >> his ego. elizabeth: he is on tape saying it. >> he is like this bizarre orwellian figure, i bet if dr. anthony fauci were here tonight, you would show him the tape, he would pretend it was not real, remember in

2020? erving out of dr. anthony fauci's mouth, mid level bureaucrats, and random state officials said, whatever fauci said we're going with, they had the fauci prayer cancels out. he had a ton of influence. >> he did say shut the country down, he and dr. burks. >> and the effects were immense, our children are setback and social development. >> inflation and -- >> he attacks any of his critics, any scientists, he said i am science and journalists it was unending. elizabeth: researchers at tel aviv university. two antibodies are so effective particular wipe oddout need for vaccine, the vaccines were focused on spike protein, they said no

look where it enters the cell wall, g get the antibiotics there. this is going in in in israel. and a separate dr. anthony fauci story, humane society did b biggest rescue in 7 years that is release of hundreds of beagles used for appalling, cruel drug testing on beagles, that is his legacy as well. he is about protecting his legacy now. >> he is obsessed with this, every time i turn around he so another magazine cover or a television show. >> this goes to the heart of who he is, i hope his legacy is american people wake up and eyes wide open to fact when someone says this is science how dare you question it, whatever you are talking about, that is not true, that is opposite of science, science is

discovery, questioning and asking, dr. anthony fauci rules expose so much corruption that exist in science community and bureaucracy. >> good point. >> he has destroyed the faith in our institutions in a big way, admitted to lying in public about herd immunity, he does not deserve the glowing profiles he gets. elizabeth: he will step down but still doing work. >> whatever work he is doing it will be signed off by his wife. >> virn having a ball in dc. live from washington, the "evening edit," on fox business, have a good evening. ♪ ♪ kennedy: just doesn't make sent, how many monday to you anyway, biden administration continues to claim the

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