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♪. elizabeth: okay. happening now the fallout of the steele dossier informant and trump russia found not guilty lying to the fbi. what is next after special counsel durham slaps, quote, incompetent fbi officials for mishandling the trump-russia probe? more on fbi whistle-blowers telling senator chuck grassley's office, president biden as aware, potentially involved in hunter biden's deals. with us senator chuck grassley, senator marsha blackburn, criminal justice reformer alice johnson, a form economic pro ej antoni. "washington examiner" byron york and gop strategist, ford o'connell. we are 21 days out from the midterms. we're live in d.c. we're tracking action for you. we have news what big banks and wall street shops talk about recession. big dragnet doj, fbi, to stop rising u.s. crime up double digits. thousands arrested.

plus new backlash against speaker pelosi trying to dismiss polls showing crime is a top issue for midterm voters. the story of hope. a former gang member on how he is rescuing others from gangs. and why energy pros now slam the white house over its latest move against saudi arabia on those oil production cuts. and this new outrage, the government now discovers thieves stole 10 of millions of dollars in your pandemic jobless benefits, why? to buy drugs and guns. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. we are coming to you live from d.c. look, check of your money. all major stock averages up. it was a broad rally today, powered by strong corporate earnings. let's get right to the federal jury acquitting russian analyst igor danchenko of lying to the

fbi. what is next in special counsel john durham's three-year probe into the debunked trump-russia investigation? fox news dave spunt outside u.s. district court in alex, virginia with the latest. great to see you. reporter: liz, special counsel john durham and his team walked out of the courthouse with a loss, his second loss in court in just a few months. he began looking at the origins of the russia probe about 3 1/2 years ago. igor danchenko found not guilty on four counts of lying to the fbi after judge ant think trenger remove ad first count over a technicality late last week. danchenko was the man the government says was the primary subsource for the steele dossier aimed at taking down candidate donald trump. in a statement rate today special counsel john durham said we're deappointed in the outcome, respeck the jury's and thank them for their service. i want to thank the investigators, prosecution team for their dedicated evidents

seeking truth and justice in this case. durham alleged danchenko lied to an fbi agent four times when he claimed he received a call from unidentified russian male sergey who had connection to republican politics. parts of the call made it to the dossier. durham said he wanted dirt on trump. the two never spoke. cell phone logs show no calls came in on danchenko's account. however his defense attorney said point-blank you can't prove he didn't speak to this man that the call didn't come have an app like signal, what's's app or another encrypted service. for john durham where he goes from here, we expect him to release a narrative report the next few months laying out his entire story over the past three years. liz? elizabeth: that will be something to read. david spunt great journalism. joining us look who is here, senator marsha blackburn from senate judiciary. it is great to see you, senator. >> good to see you. elizabeth: what was your

reaction when you heard the verdict? >> i think from this we have learned that there are indeed two tiers of justice. we know that d.c. is a swamp. it is full of people that are going to try to protect the fbi and the institutions. we do know that hillary clinton was involved in this. this russia hoax, all of this came from her campaign. the fbi knew that this was false. they wanted to take down donald trump so badly that they were willing to pay christopher steele a million dollars if he could verify what he was getting and they put danchenko on the payroll and kept him there for a few years and i think it is going to be interesting to see what durham's next steps are. but what the american people are gaining from this is insight into exactly how corrupted this group -- elizabeth: hearing this from your voters? >> yes. i'm talking to tennesseans every single day. what they know, there are two

tiers of justice. clinton was involved in this. they paid for it. they tried to push it over. they had this narrative. they wouldn't let it go. they wanted to take down president trump. elizabeth: so the special counsel durham in his closing arguments says the elephant in the room is the incompetence, quote of the fbi, how it mishandled it, right? basically james comey by october of 2016 new it was unverified the steele dossier. told the doj that. went ahead, this is the story to get fisa wiretaps on trump campaign including carter page. they misled the american people, fisa court and voters out there. >> that's right. and spent taxpayers dollars doing this. every time you write a check to the irs. think about that the fbi was willing to spend millions of dollars what they knew was misleading information and they were willing to pay an individual a million dollars if they would say it was true. and if they could substantiate

that. they were willing to put someone else on the payroll, keep them there. all your tax dollars. elizabeth: using a clinton operative charles dolan, who had ties to putin's press secretary? >> exactly right. elizabeth: that is what the steele informant was using? >> that's right. you have to look back even at the clinton foundation and the ties that were there with bill clinton. i think it's important to run a long thread on this. i have no doubt that this is the beginning of looking at this issue, not the end. elizabeth: so you know, you know the trump, excuse me the mueller probe never found trump or his team hacked into democrat emails. why didn't the mueller probe uncover what john durham uncovered? >> that is a good question. i'm certain as we continue to do oversight, as we take the house and the senate and you see ron johnson and senator grassily pick up some of this, you're going to see more of this. elizabeth: senator let's move on

to this. gop house lawmakers are sending preservation notices to white house chief of staff ron klain, education secretary miguel cardona, also dhs secretary mayorkas. looks like they're ramping up probes into ag garland as well. school board parent as terrorists, afghanistan, the botched exit there, the border crisis and more. which probe is launched first, first if the house is taken over by the gop? >> these are different committees. all of this is going to go through different committees and you're going to see each of them move forward on things that are part of the commitment to america that the house has made but also in holding the biden administration accountable. people want to know what is happening at the irs with 87,000 new agents. they want to know why the border hasn't been secured with dhs. you look where women are in their voting patterns.

crime, drugs, that open border, inflation, those are the issues and because of that people want answers. >> the other thing too, watch joe biden say that he knows nothing about what hunter biden was doing. that will be one of the probes. you will see him tell hunter he is quote in the clear after "new york times" expose' on the biden family's deal making with china. you will see tony bobulinski weigh in on all of this. watch this president i never spoken to my respond about his overseas deals. give me a call, nothing urgent. i think the article at least online from "the new york times" is good. i think you're clear. >> there are hundreds of data points that joe biden was acting in, in a capitalistic term i would say the chairman, figurehead, shows up at meetings, shakes hands, advices, has faith in his team. effectively that was joe biden's role in the biden family

business ventures around the world. elizabeth: senator, let's take a second to what bobulinski just said. so then vice president bide was at the same time in his white house job as vice president acting like chairman emeritus of the biden family business. biden is cashing in on his job as vice president. let's think about this. it was after the 2012 race where president obama kept biden off the campaign trail because of his gaffs. he was, biden was mocked and derided. obama who doesn't got this is this joe biden. biden had been in debt, maybe psychologically, forget it i make money for my family. they have been there for me but still in his job as vice president according to the hunter biden laptop emails, texts which cnn no, times verified, doing this at the same time? >> yes. this why there needs to be a special counsel on hunter biden and it is why you've got lawmakers saying to people, preserve your documents because we are going to investigate this and the american people are

tired of two tiers of justice. they want equal treatment under the law, equal justice for all. if hunter biden has done everything that we're learning from those emails indeed, there should be a reason for an indictment. there should be a reason to look at what is criminal activity. there should be a review of what biden incorporated has done. elizabeth: at its basic elements if it was okay why doesn't president biden say yeah, he was doing those deals? the evidence is out there. why deny them? >> that's a question that people have. if it was not unethical then why do you continue to say you knew nothing of it? elizabeth: that is a good point. senator marsha blackburn, lovely having you in the studio. thanks for spending time with us this evening. the big doj and fbi dragnet nationwide to stop rising u.s. crime. we have thousands arrested but we have this new backlash

against speaker pelosi saying quote, i dismiss polls showing crime is a top issue for midterm voters, even dismissing "new york times" poll. plus with big banks and wall street shops warn about the u.s. recession. economist ej antoni, gop strategist ford o'connell next on "the evening edit". ♪.

♪. elizabeth: welcome back. let's get you updated on the top midterm voter concern. it is inflation and the economy. now the big banks, jpmorgan, morgan stanley, goldman sachs, also fitch and moody's, look at that, they all are warning about recession. companies are cutting their earnings forecasts. we're talking bellwether firms like fedex, ford, nike. bank of america though saying consumers are still spending. we'll have it figured out now with edward lawrence at the white house with more. edward? >> well, liz, they keep piling on. on economists believe we're in recession right now but bloomberg's statistical projection there is 100% chance of recession. they list rate increases by the federal reserve to get in front of inflation as a big reason. so i wanted to know when all the spending and all the moves the president highlights will actually make things better.

>> you laid out eloquently what the president is doing. is there a timeline when americans can start feeling economic pain relief? >> in regards to the inflation reduction act, early next year, they will see some of the, some of the pieces of that, when you think about in energy costs, when you think about um, medicare kind of benefits from that. we'll see some movement on that early next year, but, when we talk about inflation, gas prices, that has been something that the american people have seen for the past several months. reporter: more than just several months. you can see here where president joe biden came into office, started reversing just about every policy of former president donald trump. tomorrow the white house chief of staff says there will be a gas price announcement, reportedly it involves another release from the strategic petroleum reserve. liz? elizabeth: oh, edward lawrence here we go again, right? good to have you on, edward, nice to see you. look who is here in the studio,

gop strategist ford o'connell, the economic expert, he is spearheading research into inflation under biden how it affects our money, ej antoni with the heritage foundation. good to have you both. we're live from d.c. we're having a ball. reaction to this, disgraced fbi agent peter strzok fired from the fbi from text messages. watch this weird comparison, tried to compare january 6th to 9/11 without any pushback from msnbc. look at this. >> nicole, look at scale of threat to democracy. 9/11 was a tragedy, we lost thousands of lives in horrific day we still mourn to this day, when you look at something attack on democracy, something that could actually bring about a fundamental change to american governance as we understand it, 9/11 is nothing compared to january 6. elizabeth: okay, nearly 3,000 people died. ford, nobody is comparing -- these are two separate things. nobody in the world is making

this comparison except the mind of peter strzok. why are they going there at msnbc? >> because peter strzok is a one-trick pony. he made an entire career by hating trump. essentially the democrat friendly media at msnbc feels if they drive home fear they can stave off joe biden's bad economy in the 2022 midterms. frankly voters are panicked about the bottom line. they know winter is coming and democrats will lose big in the 2022 race. elizabeth: what ford is saying ej, the president is announcing first thing he will do if democrats get congress get roe v. wade codified. but the "new york times/sienna poll," economy, not abortion that matters. even "new york times" is saying that? >> 100%. families are much more concerned about being able to feed their kids this winter than frankly kill their kids. abortion is not nearly as big of a concern as inflation and the dramatic rise in the cost of living. what is really getting scary now energy going into the winter. when you look at diesel stockpiles, for example, especially at the commercial

level, how low they are. these are historically scary numbers we're talking about right now. we have and energy crisis on our hands. elizabeth: we also have this, independent female swing voters to your point in "the new york times" poll are now going swinging towards the gop. it is 18 percentage point margin into the midterms. we've talked about it. recessions have tripped up next son, ford, carter, george hw. watch morgan stanley's jamie gorman on inflation. he says it is not transitory. look at top democrat warnock and you watch the white house on this. watch your reaction, ej. >> money is a bit too free and available now. i'm not buying all transitory the inflation story. it is not transitory. >> democrats have been in control of the white house, the congress the past few years. inflation has soared. why should georgia voters give you another chance? >> we are still in the throes of

a pandemic. >> what is president biden's top domestic priority now? is it inflation or is it abortion? >> the president's going to continue to talk about issues that matter to the american people. >> if we do that, here's the promise i make to you and the american people. the first bill that i will send to the congress will to be codify roe v. wade. >> what do you think, ford? >> they have got it all wrong? this is the my money, my family midterm election. voters are concerned about the rising cost of everything. four dollars gas. sprinkle in the democrats absurd positions on crime, what's being taught in schools and security at the border, i'm going to tell you something i think polls are underperforming how well the republicans are going to do on election night. i think they will actually probably take north of 240 house seats, probably win the senate. the best democrats can hope for, actually a 50/50 senate. elizabeth: wow even bigger red

wave what ford is saying, ej. when you think about it, steve moore said this, biden inherited a high growth economy with slow, low inflation. then he turned it into a low growth economy with high inflation. steve rattner, right, jason fuhrman, larry summers, these are obama and clinton officials don't do this, don't throw hot money into a locked up economy. >> we forget, bill clinton a democrat, who signed welfare reform in the 1990s. this is not an issue of politics as much as policy but you look at the economy to your point, liz, biden was bequeathed by donald trump, growing at 1 1/2 trillion dollars at annualized rate, inflation was 1.4%. in literally a matter of months he drove the inflation rate up so high prices rising in single month about what they rose in the year before he became president. the median priced home now costs an american $10,000 more a year in mortgage payments compared to when he first took office. elizabeth: so what happens to

the 7 1/2 trillion the government put into the economy since 2019? >> that is equivalent to france and germany combined. where does that money go? >> the better question where is it coming from? the answer to that it is coming out of your hide right now in the form of higher prices. inflation is fundamentally a tax. it's a hidden tax. congress didn't vote on it and the president didn't have to sign it but it is still a tax. elizabeth: what do you think, ford? >> ej is absolutely right. throw in the fact purchasing power for every american is down $6,000. decimated retirement accounts. democrats don't know what is ailing them. blame trump. talk about gun control, talk about abortion. what people want to talk about kitchen table issues for real americans. elizabeth: it feels like 80 one, reagan flipped switch spending into the economy five or six years later. maybe it goes into stocks. nobody knows right now. or it gets eaten up by inflations right? we don't know, that is where we're at. >> in terms of where it went.

the government spent it all. it is diffused throughout the economy. working its way through the banking system. that is what is giving us this inflationary nightmare. the fact the congress, the president are still working to push more money out there, more deficits means they're working at cross-purposes to a federal reserve that is slamming its brakes as hard as it can on this economy. elizabeth: yeah. >> the harder it has to do that because of all the deficit spending more people will go through the windshield in this economy. elizabeth: wow, ej, threw the wind shoulder, holy toledo. ej, ford, thank you for joining us in the studio. this new story, energy pros slamming the latest white house move in the fight with saudi arabia and the big doj and fbi dragnet nationwide to stop rising u.s. crime. thousands arrested. also new backlash against speaker pelosi trying to, quote dismiss polls showing crime is the top issue for midterms voters. she is denying that. criminal justice reformer alice marie johnson, and anton lucky a

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♪. elizabeth: we are live in d.c. we are excited for this segment. let's welcome to the show criminal justice reformer back with us alice marie johnson, anton lucky a former gang leader. author of the book, redemptive path forward. great to have you on. alice you brought us the story, about redemption and hope.

anton, talk to us about what happened, your story. >> i grew up in east dallas. i was in projects. my father sent to prison at nine months. sent to 36 years out of my life. elizabeth: for what? >> aggravated robbery charge. for him not being in my life, a lot of choices i made that led me down the wrong path. elizabeth: you grew up in poverty but not everybody joins a gang, right? >> right. elizabeth: but you chose to join a gang right? it was the bloods in dallas? >> in my neighborhood, most neighborhoods, the name of the game is survival. most kids don't want to join gangs but if you want to survive you have to join gangs. that was true for my neighborhood. i had to join a gang just to survive. elizabeth: what do you think, alice? you're getting gang members out? >> right. elizabeth: how do you change their minds? alice you found this story. what struck you about this story. >> the thing that struck me is

that anton was really the first one, urban specialist tonish eight a truce between the bloods and the crips. so struck me not only he did his time, but he was so worthy of redemption, of a second chance in the community. he made good news of his second chance like many of us do. elizabeth: so how did you get them to change their minds? >> well you first, young people are inspired by a witness, right? they have to see someone who can, who is walking the walk as opposed to talking the talk. so them knowing me for what i've done in the past and seeing the 180-degree change is a testament and it speaks to the what's inside of most kids. most kids don't want to be gang members. most kids don't want to commit crimes. elizabeth: how do you do it? say to them, you had somebody say to you you're a born leader. >> right. elizabeth: use your power and leadership skills for food, not for gadd bad. is that what you're telling them. >> what i was missing someone

telling me. my father was in prison. these young people in the community are missing positive male role models who can see the greatness inside of them. that is in essence what i do. elizabeth: use your mind in a different way. >> right. elizabeth: here is the thing, alice, speaker pelosi is now on tv crit, she is getting criticized by law enforcement for trying to dismiss the midterm polls, voter polls out there where people are saying we are really scared about crime. it is "new york times" sienna poll nancy pelosi is saying. that is not really true. that is not what on voters minds. let's watch this. >> well, first of all let me say that i think that much of what you've said i don't agree with. that is to say "the new york times" poll i think is an outlyer poll. you cite one poll. >> also "realclearpolitics" average is showing similar issues. >> no. buff they, but that was one that brought down the average t was an outlyer. wasn't even that big of a sample. so i dismiss that. i can tell you that women's

concerns about their freedom are very, very much still very significant in terms of how they will vote. elizabeth: all right. alice, it is remarkably misleading and breathtaking idiotic because the real clear average poll is multiple polls. it is not one poll is outlyer. multiple polls of an average. when you heard nancy pelosi trying to dismiss voters about crime, what was your thoughts? >> americans are not stupid. americans like myself included we are very concerned about the rise in crime and we know that we need data driven smart on crime solutions. i cannot, you cannot dismiss what we see and what we fear and what we see that is going on a daily basis. it is very depressing. >> yeah it is. who else is doing what you're doing, anton? seems like you're leading the charge here. >> it's a lot of organizations across the country but i speak specifically what we're doing in dallas with the police chief.

you have myself, the police chief of dallas who are working together to address crime. so you have enforcement on one hand but you also have solutions on the other hand. that is not happening nowhere across the country that i have seen. so what we're trying to do is lead the charge, to get other individuals to understand, alice said crime is something important for us. we have to do something about it. everyone has a -- elizabeth: gangs are like a epidemic. there are 117,000 gang members in chicago, right if that is really hitting u.s. urban communities. >> it is hitting it hard, an tong and us are part of public safety coalition. public safety solutions for america. >> right. >> we have data driven, honestly smart on crime solutions that include the place and what we're doing which is what antong is doing in dallas. elizabeth: what is heartbreaking hitting minority communities. >> right. elizabeth: women are getting victimized. where is the "me too" movement? >> right.

elizabeth: where are the democrats stop saying you're hurting women? last word, antofg. >> we did a survey in four hot spot neighborhoods, 91% of everyone surveyed they wanted more police in our community. they wanted to feel safe in the community without being -- elizabeth: nancy pelosi is wrong? >> liz, if the public would like to hear more about, read more about what we're doing, please invite them to go to end violent crime .com. elizabeth: end violent.com, alice johnson, anton lucky. >> i would love it. elizabeth: new outrage, the government discovers thieves stole tens of millions of dollars of our pandemic jobless benefits, to do what, what we were talking about buy drugs and guns. why energy pros slam the latest white house move in in in fight with saudi arabia. we have "washington examiner"'s byron york here next on

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♪. elizabeth: okay. the white house moving to again sell off oil from the nation's petroleum stockpile to keep gas prices down ahead of the midterms that is the accusation. fox news aishah hasnie is on capitol hill with more. ashiah. reporter: good evening to you, elizabeth. we do know the president will be addressing gas prices tomorrow. as to the details of that announcement the white house playing very coy. the president reportedly will announce a release of oil reserves, ten to 5 million barrels. critics say it's a drop in the bucket when you consider how much oil is consumed globally every single day. second the president could detail how he plans to refresh the petroleum stockpiles. this is important. it is at the lowest point in nearly four decades and finally the question is, will the

president also announce a fuel export ban? domestic refineries are reportedly bracing for that news although the white house today would not confirm this. some democrats believe president biden could take action against saudi arabia for opec's decision to cut oil. we will hear the president's decision on gas prices. this all comes 21 days ahead of a big election as about 53% of voters according to a new "fox news poll" disapprove of the president's policies on energy. elizabeth? elizabeth: wow, really interesting reporting. ashiah, thank you so much for that. joining us now "washington examiner" columnist and author byron york. byron. so good to have you on. byron, what is the reaction, selling up to 15 million barrels out of strategic reserves. when you hear that, what is the reaction? >> mike pompeo called it the political petroleum reserve. i think it is just that.

doesn't make any difference in gas prices. some of the oil released from strategic petroleum reserve is sold overseas. what is the purpose in that? something really interesting is going on with biden and saudi arabia. you know we had reports last week, was it, that when it came clear opec plus would cut production that the biden administration asked saudi arabia, please, put it off, for just a month. we only need a month. please put it off. now they deny having any political motive but the fact is if it had been delayed for a month, that would have delayed any effects on the price of gas until after the midterm elections. when saudi arabia and opec plus went ahead said no, we'll do it right now, we cut production, the president and his party immediately began talking about punishing saudi arabia for doing this, punishing them from cutting production or punishing them for ignoring and refusing

the administration request to give them another month. elizabeth: nbc reporting that the white house is maybe working on trying to encourage, rather discourage u.s. companies from doing any business with saudi arabia in terms of expanding their business over there. i mean conservatives, the questionable whether companies would really follow along. conservatives are saying this biden white house election interference. a lot of people are angry about that move. >> well the fact is they wantec. saudi arabia said no. and now there is talk about punishing them. now of course it fits into this larger scheme of president biden saying he was going to make saudi arabia pa a pariah state. some voices saying the murder of jamal khashoggi by leaders of

saudi arabia is despicable act but not something you can hinge the entire relationship between united states and saudi arabia on but still, right now, looks like the saudis are looking for other players in the world to deal with. elizabeth: apparently working more closely with china, getting missile development, getting missile ballistic environment. china inviting them into the "brics," not using u.s. dollar, yuan in future transactions. that is unnerving, rattling to the markets. >> after the president of the united states wants to make saudi arabia a pariah nation. elizabeth: all of this is going on. stay we'll have you back on soon. good to see you. next up ranking member of senate judiciary, he is coming on later in the show, senator chuck grassley. he is with us. he will talk more about the u.s., excuse me, fbi whistle-blowers telling his office the fbi quote has voluminous proof of hunter and james biden criminal misconduct. new outrage, government says

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is strong as hell. >> since march to august senator hassan as voted to eye prove $5.2 trillion worth of spending. those decisions have impacted granite staters and raised inflation to a historic level. reporter: hassan went on offense today against her opponent, attacking don bolduc for past comments on abortion. saying she supports no restrictions on abortion at all. >> i do not agree as gentlemen as he put it in the new hampshire legislature should assume my rights or make decisions for me or any other woman in new hampshire. reporter: liz i asked the senator, what is more important issue to voters here in the granite state today? is it inflation or abortion? she told me that those are two issues that people are facing at the same time. liz? elizabeth: okay. hillary vaughn, thank you so much. on one hand other hand, okay. joining us from now house homeland security congresswoman kat cammack.

first reaction to that report? >> it is ridiculous, liz. no one i talk to back home is talking about abortion. they're concerned about putting gas in their car, putting groceries in the refrigerator and making their rent payments. abortion is not even a top 10 issue right now. to say that is the driving issue of the day in new hampshire, it is not the driving issue anywhere in america. so i think we'll see a clean sweep of the house and really a fight for the senate. i think that don bolduc has an incredible opportunity to pick that seat up. elizabeth: the other thing going on that makes people crazy, a lot of government spending, a lot of money flying out the door, democrats are talking about a lot of money for irs to do more audits. more it's agents. the inspector general for the labor department discovered thieves again stole tens of millions of dollars in taxpayer pandemic jobless benefits including criminal gangs who spent the stolen money on drugs and guns. your reaction? >> i mean, just think about this -- elizabeth: does it get any worse? >> absolutely it does.

this is democrats in charge here in washington, d.c. think about this, nearly $4 trillion plus democrats spent on pandemic spending it makes bernie madoff look like child's play. this is ridiculous, about one in eight dollars, everyone in eight dollars went to fraudulent activity and cannot being accounted for. think about $4 trillion plus spent on pandemic relief, break that out for every man, woman, child in america that is $12,000. think of a family of four making $48,000 off the pandemic relief could do. instead it went to drugs and illicit activity. people should be outraged. republicans are focused on getting accountability in washington. elizabeth: irs workers stealing government money, homeland security, fema, tsa. "wall street journal" did expose', government wide, top government officials investing in stocks and trading stocks in

companies they oversee and regulate this is going on heading into the midterms. final word. >> i think at the end of the day americans want accountability. that is exactly what republicans are going to deliver when they we take back the house, we take back the senate. that is what we deserve. it is our money. not the washington swamp creatures money. elizabeth: congresswoman cammack. great to have you on. have you on soon. >> great outfit choice, liz. elizabeth: matching. ranking member of senate judiciary, he is senator chuck grassley. more on the bombshell news fbi whistle-blowers telling his office the fbi has quote voluminous proof of hunter and james biden criminal conduct next on "the evening edit". m so. i'm so glad we did this. life is for living. let's partner for all of it. i'm so glad we did this. edward jones

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elizabeth: we're live from washington, d.c. back with us now, ranks member of senate judiciary, senator chuck grassley, a pleasure having you on, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. elizabeth: senator, we would like to talk more about this fbi whistleblowerring tells your office fbi has voluminous proof of hunter and james biden, criminal misconduct in the overseas

business deals, cashing in on biden family name, you can tell us what crimes are at stake? >> i can tell you that we know that those exist. i don't want to say what is in the content. my investigative staff has actually read those documents. we know they exist. and the purpose of the letter is to let the fbi and the justice didn't know they exist. we want to know what they are doing about it. we're sick and tired of the double justice we have, unequal justice we have coming out of the justice department and the activities of the fbi. and it is clear that there should be investigations going, we want to know that, one way or the other. elizabeth: senator, has the fbi gotten back to you, saying anything about your demand to release this information on the biden's

pay to play deals they set up overseas with foreign add adversaries in china and including russia. >> they have would, it would be embarrassing if did. people in iowa you sick of double standard of prosecution and justice. that is why we're going to pursuit this until we get the answers, we're entitled to answers, i think they would be embarrassed if they can't answer it, when they know what they have. elizabeth: has anyone from the white house, any top democrat disputed about what you found about hunter and james biden doing the dials? >> no. nobody in the congress has disputed it, republican or democrat. nobody in the fbi has disputed the questions we ask them or the documents we have or what we proof.

the only action that i've seen the fbi take as a result of my investigations is with timothy tebow. he stopped abinvestigation an investigation of hunter biden, that is only evidence that i have they take any action or care what they say, because i think it will be in terribly em embarrassing this them. this is corruption at the highest level, and we got to put a stop to it. people in this country -- go ahead. >> go ahead. elizabeth: let me ask you, whistle-blowers say that bidens set it up so chinese energy company would not pay the biden family any money while joe was vice president. the implication that vice president is open to undue

influence from china, your final word. >> i think that is evidence that there could be conflict of interest. and how does this affect our national security particularly because that vice president is now president of the united states it is not something that i have concrete evidence of. but it is absolutely legitimate to raise the question of conflict of interest. elizabeth: are you really worried about it? >> and how it affects our national security. elizabeth: are you worried. >> i am, i would do this investigation even if i wasn't. but i think i have learned enough that i am worried about it, yes. reporter: senator grassley, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you so much for watching we've been live from dc, have a pleasant evening, join us again tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ kennedy: oh, look at this, democrats and political quicksand, w